I just watched this, and do you really want to try and convince me that this movie isn't complete KINO? Who the fuck are these retards who rated this low across the board? On every site, it has such a low ranking. How?

>>212704694 (OP)
Pred2>Predator

THIS IS DREAD MAN, TRULY DREAD

SHIT
HAPPENS

>>212704694 (OP)
The same retards who thought Aliens was a good sequel.

>>212704757

>>212704694 (OP)
>moving from the jungle to a 'concrete' jungle setting, smart, keeps it from being stale
>expanding the lore
>cool pred design
>new pred weapons
>really captures sweltering heat like no other flick
>gang warfare
>gary busey
>bill paxton
>danny 'sweating man' glover
>kino ending with many predators and an elder pred showing respect
>'it's alright im a cop' 'i dont thing he gives a shit'
>lions, tigers, bears, oh my!
>I DONT BEND OVER FOR ANYONE ESPECIALLY THE FEDS

It's certainly gun kino

>>212705061
definitely packing some concealed firearms

>>212704999
checked

and yeah, the movie just has this unique feeling. you can just feel the heat in the movie. I still prefer 1, but this is a worthy successor. An easy 8/10

>>212704694 (OP)
No, it's good. Predator > Predator 2> Predators > everything else.

Shame we’ll never get to see it uncut

>>212704710
Do you really believe this?

How come Predator 2 didn't do so well compared to 1 when comparing box office numbers?

>>212705061
It's time for The Getaway to be entered into the gunkino hall of fame. And I'm not talking about the whimsical boomer version

>>212705986
Black Protagonist

It has benefitted from distance; hough I always liked it.

>>212706409
Interesting. Wasn't Danny Glover well liked because of the Lethal Weapon movies by that time? Or did that not matter?

>>212705986
Hard to compete.

>>212704999
>>212705831
>sweltering heat
back when they tried to respect lore from movie to movie. Now none of them care that it was only on ridiculously hot years that the Predator came to hunt

>>212707032
latinos, white guy and black guy
wtf how come no one cried about muh diversity

>>212707032
I really liked Bill Paxton in the movie. I thought he was funny as fuck

>>212706673
Dances with Wolves made 424 million? Wtf. It's a 3 hour historical movie...

>>212707089
None of it was forced, in your face, and purposefully antagonizing. Racism was on the mend for a while.

>>212707157
Have you watched it? It's a good movie with story tropes that resonate with people. There's a reason why Avatar made lots of billies by using similar tropes

>>212707157
every woman back then fantasized about kevin costner blowing their back out whenever they closed their eyes. theater seats were probably wet and sticky after every showing of that film in 1990.

>>212707032
We aren't allowed to admit to having hotter years in the past anymore.

>>212707089
>wtf how come no one cried about muh diversity
Latinos and blacks actually live in Los Angeles.

>>212704999
fucking kino

>>212704694 (OP)
Its fine otherwise but it has too few white people in speaking roles

>>212707259
Just because a movie shows something doesn't make it real kek. Next you'll be upset that the old movies constantly mentioned the hole in the ozone layer, and not care to look into the real global campaign to regulate and discontinue usage of the man-made chemicals causing it, which allowed it to be repaired.

>>212707410
You got so worked up pwning the chuds that you missed his point.

>>212704694 (OP)
Predator = Predator 2. I'll take that opinion to the grave. I fucking love them both.

>>212704694 (OP)
Predator 2 was great but I guess it’s a let down from one of the all time action kino classic

>El Scorpio is ready!

>>212704694 (OP)
Predator 2 was a prequel to Lethal Weapon

>>212705863
It’s actually a pretty solid trilogy. Especially considering they never had any characters return

>>212707646
kek

Alien
Alien: Isolation
Aliens

Predator
Predator 2

Alien vs Predator

This is all you need.

>>212704999
You forgot...
>w..ww..wants some c-c-andy?
>wants some candy?
>danny boyyyyyy

>>212707734
>Especially considering they never had any characters return
That's definitely the best part. They ruined the Alien series by constantly having Ripley return. Dutch being allowed to do other things and never see the Predator again keeps the concept semi-grounded and serious. If he comes back to fight it over and over because it's now his destiny, also his ancestors have been fighting it for centuries, and his descendants will fight it for millennia, well, it's just a kid's comicbook story then.

Predator 1 is totally overrated. Half of the praise it gets is from reddit sóys losing over le ebin handshake. It has very good moments but it also suffers from poorly aged graphics, inconsistency in the direction and a fucking home alone sequence at the end. It also suffers from a lack of environmental and mob diversity, something P2 improved upon, among many other things. McTiernan is a good director, don't get me wrong, but the sequel clearly understood the concept's ultimate potential better.

>>212708217
Nice paragraph of absolute WRONG opinion bro.
Predator is probably one of the best action movies ever made.

>>212706530
Imho Danny is a good actor but a bad or mediocre lead.
Same problem w hawman or whatface in marvel.
But I guess studios thought he was bankable bc Lethal Weapon.
Also Predator 2 was really gritty.

>>212707894
oh shit, they actually show how it springloads its body and uses the spine as a launching pad.

>>212704694 (OP)
It's mediocre by 1990 standards, and disappointing compared to the original. But yeah it's a masterpiece by 2025 standards so I'm not surprised you were impressed

>>212704710
Don't be a faggot

>>212707668
But it was made and set after

>>212704710
no

>>212709046
So are the Star Wars prequels

>>212708217
>poorly aged graphics
>inconsistency in the direction
What?

>>212709069
You think the Star Wars prequels were set after the originals?

>>212704694 (OP)
They should do a new predator but with old Arnold and Danny returning

>>212704757
Ders notin' lef fur you hir, mister poe-lice maan. Time to go.

>>212704710

>>212709005
>disappointing compared to the original
The originals are bolstered and made entirely by the mystery. After it ends, the mystery is gone. You can't make another one with that mystery. All that's left to do is give fans more of what they liked but in a new location with new characters. But you dumbshits always whine "y dun dey juss makk wun betta den da first?!!" It's not a legitimate criticism and sounds incredibly stupid.

>>212709114
Arnie has turned down returning as Dutch in multiple sequels in the franchise so far (he was meant to be the role that was turned into Busey’s character in 2, the role that eventually turned into the Fishburne character in Predators, and the predator killer at the end of The Predator was also nearly Dutch) and Glover can barely stand up now

>>212709147
That's not what I said you walking abortion

>>212709075
>>poorly aged graphics
come on, don't get all disingenuous on me, I saw it as a kid and STILL thought it looked fake as shit
>>inconsistency in the direction
There is a sequence halfway in the movie for which they brought over another director and it shows, style inconsistency is terrible

>>212709451
Are you talking about there being second unit coverage in an action sequence? Because that’s not unusual at all

>>212709451
Give examples. Because some of the compositing effects in the second one are terrible compared to the first. And then there are silly effects moments like Busey getting cut in half and his dummy legs falling down while his torso mysteriously stays up in the air

>>212707089
Racism was pretty much gone. Oh sure you'd get that odd uncle or whatever, but even they kept it to themselves. Then during occupy wall street the bankers realized people were waking up to the fact that the only real division is between rich and poor and so they put the media to work trying to tell everyone racism was somehow worse than it's ever been. And hollywood starting helping push that narrative too. The media and hollywood.

the alien skull on the wall in the ship was a nice nod to the future and as a comic fan who already saw them meet on the pages, I was looking forward to the inevitable movie meeting.

>>212709669
No one sees any of the dumb shit on first viewing. They only nitpick it apart on subsequent views purposefully looking for crap to being upset about. It's a fine movie and entertaining. It's Predator, the whole idea is idiotic and for teenagers.

>>212709983
I like the movie, you’re just trying to change the subject

>>212709805
>Racism was pretty much gone
lmao Rodney King was in 1992

>>212710291
like I said, the odd instance here and there, and I'll remind you the cops were acquitted, because he kept resisting arrest and the force was justified. so no, that wasn't even a case of racism. the media wanted it to be, (as usual, like I pointed out) but racism was pretty much a fringe thing. it still is.
In fact, racism is so non-existent they have to make up news to be racist, just to keep the category alive. Ever heard of "cultural appropriation?" "Micro-aggressions?" lol!

like I said, the odd instance here and there, and I'll remind you the cops were acquitted, because he kept resisting arrest and the force was justified. so no, that wasn't even a case of racism. the media wanted it to be, (as usual, like I pointed out) but racism was pretty much a fringe thing. it still is.
In fact, racism is so non-existent they have to make up new ways to be racist, just to keep the category alive. Ever heard of "cultural appropriation?" "Micro-aggressions?" lol!

>>212704757
You can't see the eyes of the demon..

Til him come callin.

>>212704694 (OP)
Better than the first

>>212704694 (OP)
Danny Glover.

>>212704999
A wild, frenetic pace and tone that I've never seen in another film.

>>212710291
Has nothing to do with racism

>>212710575
Any other movies where movie is filled with 99% men for 99% of the time?

>>212710440
What about hood niggaz rioting the fuck out of LA looking to fuck koreans and sudacas up
Another odd instance I guess.

>>212710653

>>212707300
Matches the jungle aesthetic.

>>212710610
Maybe it doesn't, maybe it does.
Still triggered ghettos blacks enough that they fucked everything up so I'd say there were racial tensions

>>212704694 (OP)
It doesn't compare to the first one, but if you're patient with the first part, you can enjoy the rest. I still don't understand why they had to include such a vulgar sex scene.

>>212704694 (OP)
Because it has the same problem as robocop 2, they're sequels to perfect movies.
If you're so inclined darkhorse took the original predator 2 script has been turned into a novel and a comic. Originally it was dutch's twin brother who was an nypd detective who gets singled out by the predator and hunted across the city.
They have a parallel of the shooting the jungle scene where he levels half a city block. Its not good, but its a fascinating "what if" thing.

>>212710813
No, the vast majority of blacks, like 99% will go through life never being called the n-word or experiencing any racism, except by other blacks. That's reality. There was no "racial tension" just blacks, as usual, trying to find an excuse to riot on the PRETENSE of racism/racial tension.

>>212711082
>why they had to include such a vulgar sex scene.
as a horny teen, i appreciated it. that's why.

>>212710685
Never watched this movie. thanks for the rec

>>212707089
Mid-80's was the closest the US ever came to a post-racial society.

unrelated fun fact, the LA Lakers played most of the extra predators in the ship.

>>212710653
The Outsiders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVRTWPPvtyU

>>212710291
Rodney King was beaten by a group of black policemen.

>>212710674
oh, I'm talking about the racism the media talks about, which is exclusively white vs everyone else. that was pretty much non-existent, but they've kept trying to make fetch happen.

>>212707160
We were passed it and the fucking Jews got really worried.

>>212711443
>Mid-80's was the closest the US ever came to a post-racial society.
Is this really true or do you just feel that way, because you watched a lot of movies from the 80s where everything seemed like a racial utopia

>>212711556
>We were passed it and the fucking Jews got really worried.
true

>>212705061
>everyone has laser sights on their pistols

>>212711566
There were tons of blacks and browns at my schools. They weren't bad, no one stuck to only their color, there was no racial violence, people were just people. You'd have black friends and it wasn't some unusual big deal. Date outside your race and no one batted an eye. People could say nigger and it wasn't a big deal, it was just a fucking word like all the others. And certainly didn't mean you hated all blacks. It's a thousand times worse now, and everyone's been told all these things to be angry/upset about. All these things other people did they should feel sorry for and make reparations to unrelated people about.

>>212710813
Boomer here
I was alive at the time: No one supported these riots
not even blacks.
Black comedians goofed on the riots too because they knew they were just stealing shit from stores.

>>212711817
>your pic is cool, didn't know that!

Also, this was my experience too. I actually had more non-white friends than white ones, but nobody thought anything of it or commented on race within our friend group, at all, ever.
Now after the media has been drilling it into soft young heads for a couple generations, it's all schoolkids talk about. They've literally made kids believe in racism and made kids more racist now, whereas before nobody cared or let color influence their thinking in any way.

>>212709215
Dutch wrote a book about he fought an alien and goes on goofy Art Bell style shows trying to sell it.
His family is embarrassed about his goofy alien stories
the Predator doesn't show up. the entire film is a family drama

>>212709534
It's not that it's unusual, it's that it's especially noticable, i.e poorly executed.

>>212707157
Titanic? Gone With the Wind?

>>212711967
Dutch was supposed to team up with a hot Samurai chick and befriend a couple predators to kill evil xenomorphs out in the galaxy

>>212710653
LotR

>>212708217
Slack-jawed faggot

>>212709925
https://youtu.be/UiDTyC1fbIo?t=88

>>212704710
Probably true because it has more Predator in it and goes more into the lore. Predator is one of Arnold's better movies because it's not just a shitty quip-fest and still holds up well to this day unlike say The Running Man or Commando.

>>212704999
Yeah you can't really compare the 2. They only share a loose framework, both are great in their own way

>>212712180
GET BACK TO THE CON AIR THREAD

>>212712299
>it's not just a shitty quip-fest
yes it is lmao, is this an actual discord raid?

>>212708217
>mob diversity
You're on the wrong board /v/irgin

>>212707157
It was fucking HUGE when it came out and it swept the Oscars when it still meant something.
>>212706673
That was a very solid year. Ghost, Home Alone and Pretty Woman were pretty ubiquitous in Western culture for a good few years after.

>>212711566
Well, it is my opinion so I understand if people do not agree. Our opinions are partly shaped by our experiences.
In my experience, I was taught from a young age to be colorblind. I was born in '82 and did not really shape any political opinions until the late 90's, but by then I could definitely feel culture shifting. Media has always had an element of propaganda, but today it feels like every single movie, television show, and novel I attempt to consume has to beat me over the head with a heavy-handed message. It really seemed to start in earnest ~2008.

>>212711566
it's just from the media of the time, which was a prior stage to the propaganda tree.
people who are old enough and were sufficiently aware at the time knew they were tokens or forced, but it was done in a less offensive way.
it's been ramped up steadily since the 50s and maybe before, but almost all people are clueless in general, so asking them their opinion when they were 9 years old or permanently retarded and unobservant is a waste of time.
it was far more innocent seeming propaganda in the 70s because it was so unrefined and blatant.
>saay heeey joeee you think I'm like that because I'm black, jack
nowadays they're more or less just saying "death to whitey"
in between that was the familiarisation and desensitisation stages where they were ramped up to being central characters in a lot of stuff, then equals, then 'better' despite it making no sense.
same was done with feminist stuff.
>there are even women scientists!
>women scientists are just as good
>men are stupid, the woman scientist will correct him
>men are all dead, the world is much better - the actual plot of quite a few scifi things - already being done in the 90s

>>212711663
Are people dumb enough to take that shit at face value? I mean yes of course they are, but what about you?

>>212712631
>jews don't mean what they say
wow you're sounding like an antisemite yourself

>>212712631
Are you trying to say there's any room for interpretation in those quotes?

>>212712371
I rewatched a bunch of Arnold's greatest hits recently and they're fucking terrible in hindsight. It was something you just ignored at the time because Arnold was a phenom and there was nothing else like him and everyone loved it.
Predator isn't cheesy in the way that a lot of his other movies are.

>>212712860
>stick around

Judging by this thread, virtually everyone seems to like it. Is this one of those movies that was initially poorly received, and continued to be looked down upon until recently?

>>212712631
Ok you explain it to me like I'm a 5 year old. Do you realize that all the big organizations that advocate and support migrants coming to white western nations are headed by jews as well? I'm not racist, but israel's agenda is very clear and they've been doing it for decades now. The first quote is spot on, and indicative of everything else.

>>212712860
Kindergarten cop was great. True Lies was great. Total Recall was great. Terminator and T2. Arnold movies are usually great.

>>212704694 (OP)
Nah, it's not kino at all. Not even a movie. Maybe a film.

>>212713510
Nah, everyone has always liked it. The Op always has to shit on movies for the thread to get any traction. Especially now while the board is undergoing astroturfing for the latest slops

>>212714369
They weren't as great after True Lies

>>212704999
>>really captures sweltering heat like no other flick
I nominate Nic Cage's The Surfer.

>>212715559
Just checked his filmography and yeah, other than expendables, there's not much good on there.