Being a virgin as an adult is pretty crazy ngl

It used to be celebrated.

There should show this after Adolescence as a chilling double feature, like a before and after.

Are men actually weird or are women just incredibly picky on who they wanna fuck?

>>212737196
Women fuck almost anything, like men do. If you don't routinely get laid, you've really not tried whatsoever.

>>212737150
Among women, yes. Never for men.

>>212737196

Getting a woman is like fishing. A lot of the time it's just them being flighty and you needing to be patient, hot and cold, working their impulses. Men are sometimes awkward but women are also fairly arbitrary and randomly decide when they're going to bite. That's why it's a numbers and patience game.

>>212737150
It has never been 'celebrated' for men.
t. wizard

>>212737223
the classic "trying" cope

here's the thing, if you feel like you have to actually "try" and you aren't naturally sliding into pussy in your day to day life, chances are you won't ever get laid.
it really is one of those things where the more effort you put in, the more difficult it becomes

>the average 4chan self improvement autist:
>"m-maybe if I do no fap, take cold showers, and lift weights 5 days a week girls will like me!"

meanwhile the average normie goes to a bar with his friends, meets a girl, clicks, and next thing he knows he's fucking her at his apartment

>>212737351
I did notice that a lot of improvement-calls are anti-fun faggots. Also, no fap is a meme because you'll eventually have a wet dream.

>>212737351
>meanwhile the average normie goes to a bar with his friends, meets a girl, clicks, and next thing he knows he's fucking her at his apartment
normalfag here, this is a retarded cope.
regular people put a lot more care and effort into their appearance and social interactions than you even realize, and they are years ahead of you in terms of being socialized properly and knowing which cards to play in which setting in order to be attractive to women.

NOBODY has this from birth, everybody has to learn it, some people just get raised in the right circumstances and drilled to play the social game from an early age. they MAKE it look easy, but it never is. you never see the years of slow, steady progress that went into it.

the only thing that's stopping you from being likeable and attractive is time and effort. refusing to play the social game is alright too, but then you need to own it and shut up about being left out because that's the way you chose.

>Spin plates brah, hold frame brah!
>Be a statistical outlier brah!

>>212737938
it is extremely easy. You can meet a new woman and be having consenting sex in 5 minutes if you are over 110 IQ and have basic health matters sorted, healthy BMI, not covered in scabs etc.

>>212737224
>>212737305

>>212737997
you forgot to mention this costs 300 bucks an hour

I was a KHV until my first year of college where a cute girl sat next to me in the lecture hall and started up a conversation with me while I tried to not spill spaghetti everywhere. She gave me her number under the pretense of studying together and doing homework and she told me she wanted me to fuck her within a day. I lost my virginity to her and kept going over to her place to have sex for three months before she ghosted me. That was 16 years ago and I haven't had physical contact with a female since.

>>212738022
For you. I get that you can't comprehend sex even though 8 billion currently living humans are the product of it, therapy might help.

>>212737351

This is only half correct. Like many things, there is a point where you need to try. That's in the prep. Make sure you carefully pick out a hairstyle, clothing style and fit that matches your face/frame. Make sure you have a good cologne and only use it lightly. Gym and good sleep are ideal to stay in peak physical/mental fitness. This is all controlled, greasing your odds to make them as high as possible.

Now comes the part where you can't really try: execution. When you go to a social place after this prep, a bar or party or wherever, it's time to enter an organic flow state. No more rehearsing or care, release and go with the action.

I liken it to golf. Your club selection, grip, set up, address, approach, and practice routine is all trying. But once it's time to actually hit the ball you have to mentally go black and just execute, muscle memory. Trying helps in that it greatly improves your odds beforehand but once it's game time turn the reasoning brain off and just do it.

>>212738107
> Make sure you carefully pick out a hairstyle, clothing style and fit that matches your face/frame. Make sure you have a good cologne and only use it lightly. Gym
All BS and makes you look like a freak. Cut off your hair to show you're not hiding a shit hairline, no beard, as few clothes as possible, no scents other than your own smell, do no exercise, your opener should be something like "I just moved in nearby, you want to check out my dinosaur DVDs?"

My method works.

>>212738107

People also need to understand that when you're talking to a woman she's barely thinking. It's less about careful word selection and more about conveying positive vibes and emotions to her. This is why they like unabashed confidence, warmth, comfort, and hate awkwardness, coldness.

Some dumb small talk but conveyed in a warm, pleasant way >>>> the most brilliant line of reasoning in human history but delivered awkwardly, in a woman's eyes. Once you realize this you know you HAVE to stop caring.

>>212738208

>makes you look like a freak

If you're doing it right no one knows you're doing anything, dumbass. You think people agonize about your hidden routine life? No. Especially not women. Of course it works, you're playing on their psychology and desires. You just do it, and then don't mention that you do, and the association becomes innate.

I have no clue what you're even going on about, be a fat stinky slob and just show up and talk? Obviously doesn't work faggot. Especially if you don't have money or natural charm.

You have no idea how miserable life can be.

>>212738279
All these losers think their lives are so bad because they can't get laid while people are out there with truly miserable lives that have nothing to do with sex.

>>212736782 (OP)
I no longer care, every interaction I've had with women has resulted in them immediately tensing up and barely responding to my small talk, or simply recoiling upon the sight of me before I've said anything.

>>212738262
having a hairstyle and fashionable clothing as a man is 100% gay now. It's not the 1970s or 1980s. You stand out as a homosexual if you do anything you say, and you're too autistic to notice. No wonder women talk to you.

>>212737998
>Never saw television or film either
Wow he might've posted here.

>>212738332
If they've had sex they literally can't be more miserable than a man who hasn't had sex.

>>212738366
Truly a virgin mentality.

>>212738078
Nice humblebrag.

>>212738345

I know you're trolling but I can't emphasize enough how big of a difference proper hairstyle selection makes for men. It's arguably the biggest thing if you're going to get one thing right.

I used to do a buzzcut for most of my teenage years into early college. The day I decided to go with a better looking cut and style was like a paradigm shift. Way more attention and love from chicks. Most guys will go whole life without even thinking about it.

>>212738332
Wow, deep.

>>212738419
I'm not trolling. You got much more attention because either you are frauding a bad hairline which improved your faring with women, or you look gay to them.

>>212738420
that's not deep at all, everyone knows incels are pathetic because they put pussy on a pedestal

>>212738389
>admit to being a huge loser
>anon thinks it's a humblebrag
???

>>212738497
I am 41 and KHHV. You are fucking FLAUNTING your sexuality in my face. Fuck off Chad.

>>212738522
You're Chad the way you're bossing me around. As a beta male, I submit.

>>212738468

You should probably just kill yourself or something

>>212737351
Brutal truke
This isn't to say that the average normie doesn't self improve, because they do, ie. by working out.
But at the end of the day there are plenty of complete losers who are also normies, total fat slobs, homeless, drug addicts, etc. and they have no problem getting women and marrying.
Why the self improving incel can't get a woman and why a loser normie can is a complete mystery to me

>>212737998
Why add a pic of brother Nathanael? He's not the monk in question

If it makes you virgins feel better I dumped my girlfriend of five years on Christmas and kicked her out. I've been going to the gym and ignoring women since and I haven't been this happy since before I got a girlfriend.

>>212738600
Thanks, it did make me feel better

My dad and younger brother both make fun of me for still being a virgin. They call me "Virgy" to get a rise out of me.

To reiterate a post in here that is very true to life;
Yes, even the piss reeking street shitting sidewalk sleeping homeless can get girlfriends.
>mfw the dopefiend couple on bmx bikes looked so happy

>>212738849
>the dopefiend couple on bmx bikes looked so happy
Probably because they were doped out. I usually have to have a few drinks or smoke some weed before I spend time with my girlfriend.

>>212737938
15 years ago I was pulling semi-regular pussy as an obvious drug addict with questionable hygiene just by going to the bar and hanging out with the crowd. they weren't supermodels or anything, but the point is I didn't even have to really try.
the anon you're calling retarded is actually right. some dudes have it, some never will.

I saw this movie as a teenager and it filled me with dread. Even then I couldn't imagine what it was like to have a woman look at me with anything besides apathy or contempt.

>>212736782 (OP)
Lost mine at 23 to a 18 year old virgin jewish girl with huge tits and a massive blonde bush.
It was a weird experience, met her at a frat party and she drunkenly insisted I be her first (she didn't know I was a virgin). She couldn't get wet (probably nervous, too drunk, or just outright wasn't attracted to me) and coupled with the fact I have an uncut bwc, I had a lot of trouble penetrating her. We eventually gave up and just cuddled that night instead. Tried again a few weeks later after we warmed up to eachother, brought lube as a just in case. Finally jammed it in, after she was done wincing in pain she excitedly said "you did it! you took my virginity!". I screwed her for like an hour straight that night.
It all sounds so fake but it really did go down like that.

>>212738022
>300 bucks an hour
Well thats just fucking robery
Here its on average between 100 and 200 euros

>>212737351
the problem with the faggots complaining about not getting laid is that they are taught by self improvement guru scammers that clubs, bars are bad, they have made it their personality to hate on having fun, and they also don’t have the social skill, charm or charisma to pull women in coffee shops, hobbies or libraries or whatever

>>212737938
how shitty do you look bro?
just copy fashion trends, get a nice haircut, middle part preferably, dress in a way that matches your appearance, skin care and have a nice cologne

go back to /r9k/

>>212738078
you were a rebound, if she ghosts you after 3 months her ex came back or you don’t know how to fuck, no inbetween

>>212738849
Can confirm. My ex cheated on me with a homeless schizo and they have a child together.

>>212739524
what's wrong with you?

>>212737351
I was a turbo virgin all through highschool and virtually got passed up by every girl. College started and decided I needed to become better if I wanted to get anywhere. Went from like 230lbs down to 170lbs shredded and took up the college party culture. Night to day difference, I hooked up with loads of drunk sluts, dated a crapton of girls I'd meet off POF and OKC all with some shitty webcam photos of me in tanktops flexing.
Maybe it was a different time (this was the early 2010s), but so called "self improvement" worked for me. Had I not done it, I'd probably be a bitter virgin to this day and have given up by now.

>>212739790
Nothing. She was just a retard who fell for the foreign accent meme.

>>212739880
Zyzz walked so you may crawl. Good on you, brah

>>212738807
They should call you spergy virgy lol.

My first time having sex was an awful experience and now I'm afraid of getting intimate with a woman again.

Kinos for this feel?

>>212737150
in modern Weimar hookers are the only way to play

>>212737351
Normies can burn. Hookers are for the thinking man.

>>212737305
I hung up my wizard hat, but it's a different type of fun. Sex isn't romantic it's a performance like a sport mixed with theater

>>212737272
>t. Doesn't pay for sex

I'm going to be completely honest.
If you cannot have sex with a woman, try a female dog. It's basically the same depending on the breed, you can try as much as you like, andthey enjoy it or don't care if you're nice.

I'm 30 and it's not too bad. I think the often talked about wizard powers are more just not caring anymore and setting into a life of solitude. Comfy and peaceful. I do use porn for sexual release though.

>>212740181
Dude was an inspiration to many on /fit/. Yeah it had a lot of whiny tfw no gf posters, but a lot of them made it because they got shredded and aesthetic. The ones that didn't, well, they migrated to /r9k/

>>212740460
see >>212740387
I hung up my wizard hat in my early 30s. Sex is seen the wrong way by normies here;
It's a sport mixed with performance. The goal is to last and stay hard while pounding away. The performance is that you're Live and must perform despite all the practice with your hand or dicksercises.

It's a lot of fun and I have more in common with pornstars now, but don't use "normal women" for sex, the few good ones are for marriage.

You use hookers to get sex out of your system and gain exp with women. I'm not nervous with women anymore, they're just people and there's nothing they can offer I didn't already experience which cures the nervousness

>>212740447
Are you brown?
Not hating, just genuinely curious.

>>212740653
No, I'm Indian.

>>212740653
I am European but I am sure people will argue about what that means. The dog is, too.
>>212740681
This isn't me. His dog would have ran away from the smell years ago.

>>212736782 (OP)
I'm 26 years old and a virgin.
I want to kill myself.

>>212740727
Sex is barely better than jerking off or fingering yourself. If that's why you're suicidal then what a waste of a brain you are.

>>212736782 (OP)
>me
>44
Im going to be wizard soon

>>212736782 (OP)
Im turning 32 in August and am still a virgin. I look awful though so it makes sense. Women dont like me, they never have nor will. This movie was funny though because I too am a nice guy nerd and a virgin lol

>>212736782 (OP)
Whats the fucking crying for being a virgin? I'm 24, I could pay a hooker and be done with it, don't want to, I had gfs before, never went longer into relationship because I decided they were not good enough, I keep for marriage. Why do you fags make being a virgin=bad all your personality? So after yoy have sex you think your life will get better? Answear, it won't get any fucking better if you didn't have it already.

Fucking weirdos.

>>212738898
This is what I'm talking about, why are normalfags so fucking parrot-tier?
>rawk *whistles* have to toke up to spend time with gf *whistles*
>rawk gotta gf gotta gf gotta gf *whistles*

I am 18 and I've done it with hundreds of chicks. All kinds of women too, like that one from Japan, a french woman who loved my baget, and then this broad from israel who kept asking me to call her Anne for some reason. Doesnt even sound jewish

>Wizard in a month

>>212740297
Buffalo '66

>>212740900
You and many others in this thread misses the tongue and cheek message of the movie. It inverts the trope of male power by flipping it opposite exposing how women have more power than men in the sexual sphere and that men are actually oppressed and stigmatized by society and norms into the desire and expectation of having lost their virginity in adolescents. It takes the constant berating men experience from movies/education about how oppressive society is towards women and applies it to a specific subset of men who although are oppressed similarly are just far enough out of reach (unbelievable) to be deemed comically fit to laugh at. Ironically on one end the movie exposes this new minority (virgin men) but pulls back the life line of not trying to bring attention to tlthe cause of these men but rather that they aren't to be taken seriously

>>212741170
I never saw the movie, I'm just tired of le virgin bad meme

>>212741078
I've already seen Buffalo '66. Good movie, but I can't relate my feel to it. Gallo's character is such a pathetic loser, so relating to him just makes me feel like a pathetic loser.Christina Ricci's character falling for him only makes sense in the movie's dream logic. There isn't busty blonde girls just waiting for some emotionally damaged guys in the real world.

Fucked this girl from work 3 times over the weekend. Pussy game was insane

>>212741194
In society virgin = bad for men because thats a societal norm that both sees believe and uphold. Its oppressive and stigmatic. But men aren't allowed to talk about it bc muh inceldom. Women use to benefit from retaining virginity until 3rd wave feminism tore down that trope and replaced it eith sexual liberation as a source of power. Women are more desired earlier and mature faster Whelan men so they start experiencing sex and propositions to sex by age 12 or 13. Most woman aren't interested in sex eith boys until they're 17+ it leaves a huge power differential that women exploit bc sex to them is often ubiquitous to power /rant

Of course being a virgin is bad. The only people who actually want to be virgins are the extremely spiritual people. If you arent that then chances are youre a virgin because youre a loser. You look bad. You act autistic. You give vibes of someone who sat alone at school. Women are very good at taking one look at you and determining how much sex youve had. And no woman wants to fuck an inexperienced virgin.

>>212741194
Blame secularization of culture (read: jews)

>>212741387
Sorta correct.
It's not that women want to sleep with sex havers. They want to "secure" a man by giving into his sexual demands.
Loser virgins do not have value that screams "provider". Naturally, women have no interest in "convincing" them to commit to them.

>>212741018
Why don't you just see an escort so you can find out what's it like and get it out of the way so you can focus on things that actually matter?

>agghhggh im a virgin =(
WHY DONT YOU FAGGOTS JUST PAY AN ESCORT AND BE DONE WITH IT? WHY?

>>212741475
I don't want my first time to be with a woman who doesn't love me for who I am. A genderfluid actor-ess.

Question for sexhavers:

What does being good in bed even mean? It looks pretty straightforward with dick thrusting in pussy. Of course clitplay seems important too but realistically she should be doing that since the man is the one thrusting and therefore exerting effort and energy.

>>212741256
It's about yielding to love. It has a positive message. Rewatch it.

>>212741475
Doesn't scratch the itch.
Every dude needs the experience of the conquest: finding a girl, flirting with her, taking her on a date or a few, and eventually sleeping with her because she wants you that bad.
Escorts are literally worse than masturbation.

>>212740842
>>212740785
>>212740727
i lost mine at 37. there is hope

>>212741547
Doing what she wants with little regard for your own enjoyment. Make sure her music is on and she's had a tray of carbs beforehand, alongside a cig for after.

>>212741514
I think most men know thats cheating and is unfulfilling. Its about the act itself strictly speaking. It involves a ritual with specific steps and rules to complete. Men lose their virginity by having sex with a girl they court or a girl who has shown interest in them for reasons that do not involve a wallet. Banging whores does not embody the feelings of successful intimacy but rather loneliness and desperation which leads to pain and sorrow

>>212741547
>What does being good in bed even mean?
It's largely a meaningless nothing statement. Anyone can be good at sex, it's all based on your willingness to give to your partner. Which, to no surprise, happens in loving committed relationships all the time.

>>212741633
Not* about the act itself*

>>212741547
It's a sport and performance art.
Being "good" is really easy, it's staying hard and lasting long. Dick size is genetic so you've either won the lottery and have normal or slightly large or lost and have a micro penis or Giga penis.
The last girl I had I didn't even pull out, it was in and I kept pushing. I made her orgasm and she had to stop so she didn't coom.
The point is, it's really not hard to do but it's also up to the girl if shes attracted to you or not

Both sides of this conflict are mentally ill. Sex is not everything, sad you all stay at the animal level

>>212741514
Only truly brainrotten by porn men think paying for sex is anywhere near the same thing as having a girlfriend that puts out for you.
Stop suggesting this shit to incels. They need love, not whores.

I'm 32 and I haven't even hugged a girl.

>>212741742
If I was gay I'd see the appeal of finding a total virgin like you and cuddling and kissing him and teasing him about his failings as a straight guy while faking nibbling his ear lobes.

>>212741475
I did and now I'm almost an amateur pornstar

>>212741721
Perhaps they should start loving themselves and being kind

Haha yeah but we wouldn't know here at /tv/, we are the most unvirgin board on the website haha

I wish I was incel. Incels want girlfriends and pussy.
I have no drive at all for any of it. I have never wanted a girlfriend and my mom/dad have asked me if I was gay. Unironically.

>>212741930
you DO NOT wish you were an incel. It is the darkest mindset on earth, any where. I say words like fuck and shit out loud, even in the street if I see a car I don't like or something that drives me insane. RAHHH

>>212736782 (OP)
Erm..
After you've last had sex, how long do you have to go without having any sex before being considered as regaining your virginity?
....Asking for a friend

>>212741865
I don't disagree with that statement.

>>212742042
2 days. Normal people fuck every day.

>>212742042
Male virginity does not exist. It's purely a woman thing. Men do not have hymens, and this enrages feminists so they pretend that men too have a thing called virginity.

>hey anon, wanna know how i know your gay?
>how?
>you listen to celine deon
>alright, wanna know how i know your gay?
>how?
>you make the same 40 year old virgin threads on 4chan alot
>hmmm touchè

>>212736782 (OP)
Everyone complains about superman threads but I'm tired of 40 year old virgin threads

>>212739880
That's just called growing up. This is why you're not a wizard until 30. If you lose your virginity at any point before 30, you're a normalfag, and your advice is worthless for actual adult virgins.

>>212736782 (OP)
I'm like Jesus.

>>212742213
Ah, so even if it's been eight years, I'm still not a virgin? Good to know.
I mean my FREIND. Not me hahahaha

>>212742297
DON'T CRY
NOW THAT I"VE FOUND YOU
DON'T CRY
TAKE A LOOK AROUND YOU
DON'T CRY
TOOK SO LONG TO FIND YOU
DO WHAT YOU WANT BUT LITTLE DARLING PLEASE DON'T CRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odrH8ShNi0A

>>212741514
I did and it changes nothing at all. Almost like the issue is feeling accepted and loved as a human being, rather than just sex itself.

>>212738384
While I won't claim that being a virgin is worse than living on the street or something, I think normie sex-havers truly underestimate the mental effect it has you to be part of 1% of 30+ year olds who have never had sex. And that 1% also includes asexuals, people waiting for marriage etc. There are more people in the world who don't learn to read than there are 30+ virgins. There's basically no bigger universal experience and being one of the few to not have it makes it so much worse than simply "want pussy but can't have pussy"

>>212742498
You got it bud. Your friend isn't a virgin.
Male body count does not matter. It can be zero, it can be 10,000. Women don't care in the slightest and they never even ask. What they care about is you being a man: provider, protector, and leader. Why? Because those are qualities exclusive to men that women lack. That's what they need from men.

>>212741529
>I don't want my first time to be with a woman who doesn't love me for who I am
This idealised concept of your "first time" is so incredibly damaging. Most people's first times are either a drunken one-night-stand, or with their highschool partner and empty teenage platitudes.
An incredibly small amount of people actually love their partner with any sort of maturity their first time. And if your upset is that you don't care, you think it's the right way of doing it like some tradcuck, then don't complain that you're missing out on an experience that so many others have.

Either join a church, be a moral (lol) and sociable man that church-going fathers would want their daughters to marry (mormonism is pretty perfect for that I hear), or get over this retarded notion that sex is some magical thing that only happens between 2 people who deeply love each other.

And you also need to accept that "who (You) are" is someone who hasn't found love yet. I'm not saying there's definitely something wrong with you. But you're on 4chan complaining about being a virgin so there's probably something wrong with you.
The biggest lie that's been internalised is this idea that everyone is perfect the way they are and there's someone for everyone. Charisma is a thing. Popularity is a thing. If one can attract lots of people, one can also attract no people. No one's perfect, but you need to put effort in to actually connecting with others.
You're delusional if you think that you can just rant about trannies 24/7 and eventually find a girl who wants to marry you and hear those rants.

>>212744191
Projecting. also check these singles, I put more effort into getting them and typing this than reading your high effort post

NoFap works tho
Porn and Masturbation is for kids, makes me feel like a manchild loser, so I just don't do it.