Does it ever drop in quality? What are the best seasons?

Seasons 2-6 are pretty consistently great. S1 is rocky (for the show), S7 gets a little too sentimental for me, but is still very good.

I don't think it ever drops in quality. Sometimes there's a little too much relationship stuff in it for me, but it's still funny.

Once Donald Glover leaves to be on Community the humor feels different somewhat, but how I couldn't explain how. Not as many meme references?

s1 is still the show trying to find its footing but after that it's pretty much a kino ride til the end
still can't figure out how this show got away with taking so jabs at feminism the way it did plus a lot of "feminists" would claim this show is still 100% girl power!! bullshit despite it

>>212822521
It was a different time.

>>212822674
fuckin' kek i always forget about this scene until it happens during my rewatch. how they got away blackface even back then is baffling. as well as the first time they did it hahaha

>>212822521
just saw a few episodes and they were pretty misogynistic and cringe

No, its impressively consistent.

>>212822521
>still can't figure out how this show got away with taking so jabs at feminism
because the lead was female ("trying to have it all!)

There is an episode that kinda tackles that, where the premise is that everyone thinks that the show and Liz Lemon hates women
>Liz Lemon is a Judas TO ALL WOMANKIND

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUFTUG_XeUc&t=107s

I always start this show, love it, get like 2-3 seasons in and stop watching. I enjoyed all of it too but it’s happened like four times now and I don’t know why

>>212822149 (OP)
There's a slight decline in the last couple seasons IMO. Still very funny and worth watching, just doesn't quite match the high of seasons 2 - 5. It ended at the right time and stuck the landing too, the series finale is excellent.
Coincidentally, I'm watching the 2nd to last episode right now.

3 of my favorite episodes are in the final season

>>212822871
There was an odd resurgence in the 2000s of blackface jokes. Then twitter came along and stopped them, and finally George Floyd couldn't stay off the fentanyl and all non home media evidence was deleted.

>fresh-ass based on the novel tush by assfire

>>212823364
The show is non-stop jokes with a thin plot to tie them together. It's easy to overdose if you binge. Just pace yourself. It's kino all the way through.

the only thing is less sexy Cerie outfits as it goes on

>>212822388
>I don't think it ever drops in quality
today I will remind them

>>212822898
I don't know how she didn't go insane, considering there are many episodes where she directs,write and is of course the protagonist, I mean that's how we got the worst Rocky with Stallone trying to do everything.

>>212824766
this was good tho

>>212822871
>got away with it
Having Jenna agree to it indicates that only an arrogant retard like her would think it's acceptable. The joke is that its incredibly tasteless

>>212825349
It do be like that.

>>212824644

Why her next show sucked though?
The one about a girl who spend 30 years in a bunker. I remember watching like 1.5 seasons of it

>>212825720
Four Seasons is also complete trash.

>>212822149 (OP)
It's one of the few shows that doesn't crash and burn as it's ending or overstay its welcome. Sure the last 1 or 2 seasons are a little less good but overall it's pretty consistently great all the ways through.

>>212825720
I liked Kimmy Schmidt’s first season but yeah it had a massive fall off in quality

I just want kimmy schmidt to give me the driest blowjob.

>>212825720
Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.
I'd say she was more of a big name credited for the show to sell it, i doubt she was actually involved in its production to the same extent she was with 30 rock. And the writing staff was probably worse and smaller.

I dunno, I always end up skipping the seasons after 5 because they just kind of flanderize too hard and lose some of the appeal. Not all, but enough to make me just want to rewatch 1-5

overall, it gets better as it goes along
the earliest episodes seem to be caught up in trying to be "quality television" but by the end they are prioritizing a lot of funny jokes as fast as possible and the show is better for it
depending on your taste, you might like the earlier seasons better

This is one of those shows that were quality, but that people don't even remember because the internet overtook television at the same time.

>>212822898
The secret was having women in the writing room who didn't mind taking jabs at feminism, and black dudes in the room who didn't care about making slightly racist jokes
Valuing the joke over politics, basically. Dong Lover and Tina Fey are goated

>>212824733
also the beginnings of horse face start to set in for her by the end

>>212825720
They tried to do an actual show instead of a bunch of sketches in a trenchcoat like 30 Rock. The writing sucked and the fat gay negro was the only fun character.

>>212826072
>I ate my faaaather piiiiiiig - eeeeeeeEEEEE
>Kenneth No!

>>212824766
oh that doesn't count

>>212822149 (OP)
30 Rock is very consistent and I don't think there are truly any "bad" episodes. That being said, seasons 3-6 are probably the peak. The joke engine really starts to rev up in season 3, although 1-2 are still good

Did Tracy Morgan find the show funny? Or was this just a gig for him. I don’t know how his normal stand up is

>>212825720
It had flashes of quality but yeah it sucked dick

>>212826875
Tracy often read his lines like he was sounding them out phonetically. I’m not sure he completely grasped the humor.

>>212826875
>>212827394
Tracy's delivery is incredible and I think he's more self-aware than you give him credit for. He's also pretty much playing himself.

>>212826875
he was pretty much playing an exaggerated version of himself.

Social Conservative, Fiscal Liberal.

>>212822521
I love the joke where liz was part of a college club with all females and they were all vice presidents

>>212827549

>>212828216
Or when they were at that women’s award show thing and none of them could figure out how to work the DVD player.

My only complaint is that I could have used like 10% less Kenneth, otherwise it’s virtually perfect.

>>212828363
>I once voted for Ralph Nader. NADER!

One thing that's cool about 30 Rock is that the characters have way more detailed backstories than your typical sitcom. If you think about it, there really is a ton of lore for the main 5

>MY LASAGNA

>>212828495
Isn't he immortal or something bizarre?

>Are you familiar with Japanese "moe" relationships, where socially dysfunctional men develop deep emotional attachments to body pillows with women painted on them?
>NEITHER AM I LIZ

>>212822149 (OP)
all of those sitcoms from that NBC lineup (the office, 30 rock, parks and rec, community) have a massive drop in quality towards the end of their run. They just went on too long instead of ending on a high note. The Office and Parks and Rec in particular are unwatchable towards the end. Lazy writing and too much flanderization

>>212828691
their use of celebrity guests has never been matched.

>>212828662
Yeah I didn’t find that funny either

>>212828693
Except we all agree 30 Rock didn’t.

>>212828749
>are you a celebrity?
>I have my own show on NBC
>noooo, a celebrity!!
>...I was in a movie with queen latifa once...
>you'll do

>>212828949
The constant jabs at NBC are one of my favorite parts of the show

>>212826292
The only funny joke from Kimmy schmidt was when Titus works for Jeckle n Hyde and never takes his costume off saying "im treated better as a werewolf than i ever was as a black man"

>>212829259
don't remember the precise wording but at one point Banks was talking about taking over NBC and Jack says something along the lines of "well, you can't BUY NBC, not unless you have 4 MILLION dollars lying around..."

>>212829541
It was Seinfeld.

>>212829259
>I’m a celebrity dog get me out arf here

>>212829259
>It’s not your fault no one watched America’s Next Top Black Guy

>>212829624
>Seinfeld vision

>SURPRISE BITCHES! PUT THE MIMOSAS DOWN!

highbrow /lit/fags like me will enjoy this one

>>212830054
dotcom, so help me god!

>>212830054
grizz and dotcom are lowkey heroes of the show. way funnier than they have any right to be

>>212830524
dotcom, this...need you have to be the smartest guy in the room...its offputting.

>>212830861
I guess thats why I'm still single...

>>212824766
How long do you think it took hat man to turn every single one of his fag books around?

>>212830828
>maybe some day you’ll hire us to play scientists

>>212826292
My shants!!

It does drop in quality but still generally good the whole way through, 1-4 are my favorites, and even in those there's some cutaway gags that just completely fall flat for me, but the highs are higher than most shows can dream of getting to.

>>212830861
Wonder if is true that the joke started because of NBC buying names for fictional websites that are namedropped in shows.

>>212822521
Tina Fey wrote Liz to have glaring flaws, like her guilt-laced racism, she has Lemon do terrible things quite often, and doesn't present her as a squeaky clean girlboss

>>212822149 (OP)
A superior show in every way. It wasn't always perfect, but was always close enough. In my opinion it shows that Tina Fey may be the only funny female comedy writer around. The stuff she personally did at SNL also had that caution to the wind cynical humor to it.

>>212825349
>Jennas Side. Jennas Side. I'm sorry Liz, I'm just not hearing it

Dennischads report in

>>212831374
>one word: coffee. one problem: where do you get it?
>everywhere. you get it EVERYWHERE
>Wrong! You get it at my coffee vending machine, 38th & 6th in the basement of the K-Mart. You just go downstairs, you get the key from David and boom! You plug in the machine...

>>212831374
>Actually, I'm allergic to all fish unless it's fried.

>>212831374
>BLACK DENNIS GOT SOME COPS GUN

>>212831374
30 Rock and Oz are in the same continuity. In fact, Tina Fey wrote the Aging Pills plotline.

>>212822149 (OP)
2-4 is the peak.
6 is the hard drop off.

>>212831374
>that girl said she was 16, but i could tell she was 22

>>212822149 (OP)
I also like how they could bring in the celebrities for plot-related drop-in's:

> Jack Welch, the famous former CEO of General Electric (former owner of of NBC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO6A6g4KxXo

> Liz is whacked out on medicine, and think the woman next to her on the plane is Oprah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzEVKPEvrRs

>>212831374
>I could get any girl here I want. And not just the fatties and the butterfaces.

>>212831374
>do they know youre the beeper king?

>>212831374
>You know a stripper offered to give me a squeezer last night. A WHITE stripper.

>>212831374
>I know what that means
>pre: before
>natal: ruined

Where can I watch all the banned black face episodes ?

>>212831993
My basement

>>212825720

>>212831374
>Name's Dennis Duffy. And this is my wife Megan, maiden name Duffy. Hopefully no relation

>>212831732
>She said her last boyfriend was Asian and that crap doesn't start until college

>>212826292
I love this dude.
>D’Fwan forgot his catchphrase!

>>212832354