Huh... That's... That's actually a really good point

>what is internal logic

What was his excuse?

>>212847453
He has an overactive thyroid.

So boring, not only can you not control your weight so you lose 20 years of your life, but you also make jokes about it as if it's not just sad and pathetic to be that size.

>>212847391 (OP)
I guess I missed the part where the dread sorcerers of Thy’Roid summoned calories directly into his fat ass on the wall.

>We've got fire-breathing dragons, and you care about Cersei's new Ferrari?!

>>212847391 (OP)
>>212847449
Unless GRRM stated otherwise, we can asume that human(o)s of planetos are just homo sapiens,

>>212847453
There was a whole episode where he had a secret food stash.

>>212847391 (OP)
Why are you using a genre of fiction to disguise your weight, you fat fuck? Can't you just not eat?

wouldn't actually losing weight give you more cred as an actor in addition to all the other benefits?

>>212847814
cersei would drive a rolls royce not a ferrari.

>>212847854
>THIS IS HOW YOU TRY?!
>I'M NOT OUTTA CASTLE BLACK TEN MINUTES?!

>>212847391 (OP)
One of the minor plot points in The Hobbit is that Bilbo slims down considerably during his adventure.

GOT is millenialslop that will be forgotten because zoomers arent watching it or perceiving it as classic television

>>212847909
Well also because the second half of the show is a complete trainwreck that has almost no redeeming qualities beyond that one chick's really nice tits.

>>212847391 (OP)
>magic exists
>therefore, the basic rules of physics and biology no longer exist/appy

"Why CAN'T Gandalf drive around in a Ferrari? It's a FANTASY SETTING!..."

The mark of the mid-wit.

>>212847391 (OP)
That beard hair was genetically supposed to be on his cheeks, but his gluttonous behavior cause his body to stretch in unnatural and unexpected ways causing it to appear to grow from his neck.

>>212847391 (OP)
He could have been a global inspiration. Slimming down and beefing up in front of the world while GoT was at its height. He's still be talked about with respect today. Instead his fat ass showed he couldn't even be asked to do such a simple thing or put in any real hard work so he'll need to be typecast as the fat loser forever

>>212847391 (OP)

>>212847391 (OP)
Holy cope, someone post the LOTR car pic.

>>212847391 (OP)
Just lose weight.

>>212847886
Come on now, Cersei would obviously drive a Porsche Cayenne.

>>212848595
To be fair, in this specific example, "why is Sam still fat?" is a legit stupid question with a very obvious answer.
It's also extremely fucking low on the scale on the what the fuck went wrong with GoT tier list.

>>212849009
The show runners were so retarded I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted Sam to stay fat for any retarded reason, whether he would have been willing to slim down or not.

>>212847453
This is addressed in season 2.

>>212847754
That would be underactive

In the books, he loses waste and gets slim.

if his appearance changed during the show, the midwits who watched it would have wondered why they changed actors.

>>212847453
They were all dead, so they had the bodies they died with

>>212847391 (OP)
>>212849249
>>212848595
we have had this thread a hundred times
its all so tiresome

>>212847391 (OP)
> really good point
it was a joke, imbecile

>>212849654
Better than the Cape slop span.

>>212847391 (OP)
So dragons made him fat? What's the mechanism?

>>212847391 (OP)
The books actually have a perfect example in Thoros of Myr. He starts out a jolly fat man and then when next he's seen his skin is hanging loose around him. It's just that his rapid weight loss is also because he used part of his energy and life force to resurrect Beric just like Melly's shadow magic and fire sacrifices uses the life force unborn babies and people. Which is why Melly shouldn't have been able to resurrect Jon in the show: because she's actually an old woman under her glamour, she has no life force to give up like Beric did.

>>212847907
A character coming home and realising that the clothes they left behind no longer fit is always kino. I can't remember if it's in the movie but in Jan Guillou's Evil the first chapter focuses on the MC's little school gang and how much importance they put on these cool matching jackets they've all got, which they bought with the money from their criminal enterprise of stealing records and reselling them. When he comes home at the end of the book he finds the jacket in his room and tries it on and he can't even get his whole arm in before it starts splitting at the seams, showing that even though he was a terror at the school yard at the start he must have still been a little kid with plenty of growth ahead of him not just metaphorically but physically. Although I don't think he really grows as much as he thinks and that he'll continue to find reasons to use violence and terror for good, even though he keeps telling himself it'll be the last time.

>didn't make Sam slim down
>didn't make Cersei old and haggard with a wine belly that makes her seethe at all the younger women at the court
fucking hacks

>>212847895
ill give u a you
LOL

>>212847391 (OP)
>why don't you exhibit a bit of dedication to your (massively popular, well paid) role by exercising a little self-control and dropping some weight? you don't have to go Bale in The Machinist, but just a stone or two
>"REE I'm a fat pig and you're stupid for wanting me to be a goof actor!! I need a cake now"
fuck that faggot

One impossibility rule, you fat fuck.

>>212849927
They kinda forgot that Cersei wasn't as smart as she thought she was and was meant to die after she fucked up her shot at winning the game of thrones. Instead she becomes le super smart super powerful queen on top

>>212847814
>>212847886
>>212849352
Cersei strikes me an obnoxious SUV type. She says she needs it to drive her kids, but she never does.

>>212849569
Tolkien was clearly precient of the 2021 BMW 5 Series 530i with optional heated seating. The Witch-King of Angmar has this whole side-plot where he can only be defeated by someone who came to the battlefield 'in a cart not drawn by horse nor by the fowl (sic) emanations of alchemical fires'. If that's not supposed to be an electric car then IDK man, maybe he was just writing random shit and was paid by the word.

>>212850581
Look, she's trying to put out enough emissions to speed up climate change and raise the temperature ok?!

>>212847391 (OP)
>haha, losing fat is a fantasy, just like firebreathing dragons, touch grass chuds
>goes and visit great wizard Ozempicus

>>212850581
No way, man. A key component of Cersei is how she wishes she'd been born a man like Jaime and how she would have ruled the world if she had. She'd NEVER drive a girl-coded car like an SUV. She'd definitely get a guy car. She might even overcompensate and get a Humvee.

>>212850707
but he's still fat

>>212847922
>one chick's really nice tits
whomst?

>>212847391 (OP)
Suspension of disbelief.

In the world of ASOFAI dragons exist. White walkers exist. Magic exists. But humans still mostly follow the laws of physics and other "laws" that humans IRL follow also. People can starve in GOT, there are skinny and fat people in GOT, so that means they get skinnier or fatter depending on how much food they eat and the exercise they get.

Sam being a big fatass despite everything he does breaks suspension of disbelief because, unlike other characters in the series, he seems immune to body changes from food intake and exercise. Dragons and white walkers maintain the suspension of disbelief because they are real in the context of the series. People are willing to pretend that these things exist since the series established them. The series never established that big fatasses will just always stay fat despite the food they eat or exercise the get.

>>212850994
>he wasn't around for Bad Poosy posting

>>212850883
When Robert the Usurper is king - she rides in limos and doesn't drive ever
When Tyrion is hand of the king - she'd ride around in one specific personal armored limo
After they fuck off Stannis' army at the Blackwater - she's sometimes seen driving herself around in various rented 'Free Cities' mini sports cars
After purple wedding - goes back to the armored limo
After she nukes the Faith Militant - This is when she'd buy something more traditionally masculine but still not explicitly military coded and might start to be seen driving herself like a very high performance sports car
Final seasons - She'd be in the Humvee

And then for her younger era she'd have to literally be a street racer (Jaime would be too much of suck-up to try anything like this) and then Tywin bans her from driving once he finds out.

>>212847391 (OP)
no it isn't

>>212851066
>tfw you will never street race Cersei to death

>>212851066
>when she is captured, Cersei is made to do pennance in the Drive of Shame driving a run down, puttering geo metro while everyone laughs at her

>>212847391 (OP)
itts a terrible point made by retards and nobody is ever impressed when some manchild says that to justify bullshit. the fact is, he just didnt care and neither did his producer/director.

>>212847854
>ima sneak a few calorinios while hiking 12 hours a day therefore i will stay chubadubadub dub xD

doesnt work that way. he'd at least have massively huge legs by the end of the series, like some kind of body builder god even if he did maintain the beer belly from sneaking coca colas

>>212850707
everyone who takes this drug should be shamed.

>>212850424
this

>>212847754
That shit basically reduces your daily max intake by 300-500kcal. It's really not that much as fat cunts would want you to believe.

>>212849363
>legit stupid question
no it's not. a fat noble boy turning into a hardened fit veteran at the wall is much more sensible.

>>212851319
MUH GENETICS THOUGH!

>>212850707
it should be a requirement for taking ozempic that you get a tattoo on your forehead telling the world you were a fatass who could only lose weight with drugs

>>212851485
>we should discourage people from losing weight
why?

ah yes
the pete hines approach to fantasy
"fantasy elements existing means our fictional world is allowed to have zero consistency when it's convenient"

>>212851518
it doesn't encourage people to lose weight. it withers them away while they continue to maintain their wasteful, selfish habits.
nice try, pharma jew

>>212851485
like you can't tell that already

>>212851545
>why is this one ghoul able to survive without eating/drinking?
>because ghouls exist
what a legend

i also love how this came after 6 or 7 back-and-forth tweets where pete hines happily discussed how realistic things are

>>212851545
>>212851603
The fridge quest isn't even a big deal on it's own. It fits the atmosphere of the games.
But Phil had to take it all to far.

>>212847453
>Hurleylost
what did he lose?

>>212851518
It maintains the idea that some people are just naturally obese, that if you're fat there's no sense in trying, that you'll always be 300lb unless you buy their drugs since nothing else works, that eating 6000 kcal of slop daily is fine and eating healthy is a meme

>>212850903
Only as fat as the average euro though

This could have been you, Sam

>>212851518
Because there is literally no fucking way these fucks stop gobbling down 5000kCal per day just because they take Ozempic, they just take more of it, ruining their liver and kidneys in the process.
Ozempic is also a drug for diabetics so people who take it for aesthetic create artificial scarcity. It's exactly like troons with test hormones.

>>212851438
The obvious answer is that the actor doesnt want to or the show runners want him to be fat for marketing purposes or something.
Asking why it's not done in the show is a retarded question.
Kinda mind blowing you couldnt figure it out. GoT isn't some high art acting and concept show (by the time it would have mattered that Sam is still fat), it was dumb normie baiting schlock

>>212851319
>>212847754
I've got the opposite and so from my teens I've had basically zero hunger, I've only gotten some semblance of regular hunger feelings now that I'm in my thirties. I just kept eating despite feeling so full that I could puke because otherwise I'd die from malnutrition, and stayed away from certain foods because I couldn't afford to fill up on water, you know? So I never understood why the people who have the opposite and so feel hunger more often can't just do the opposite of what I did. They wouldn't even have to stop eating, just shove down salads or other stuff that's filling but not as nutritionally dense.

>>212847453
They were making a move, he had to get it on

>>212852001
Still can't see the sailboat.
Good for him though.

>>212852109
>Ozempic is also a drug for diabetics so people who take it for aesthetic create artificial scarcity
This was a problem for like 3 weeks and then we just made more and it stopped being a problem

>>212851853
His waifu
:(

>>212852001
he's tummy has like and old man sad face looking

>>212852168
They are addicted to sugar. The thought of putting something sugar free in their bodies makes them feel sick. For them thats justification to not even try

>>212847391 (OP)
Thats not a good point actually. Is whataboutism.

At least they could have addressed it like they did with Hurley >>212847453

But no, no explanation for why he stayed a fat fuck.

>>212851545
I swear that game was filled with stuff that would make so much more sense if the apocalypse had just happened, but then they plonked the main quest story on top and made them fit together sloppily. Like how every place is filled with skeletons from when the blast happened, somehow still in the exact same position as when the bomb dropped after 400 years despite people living right next door or the place being open to the elements, as opposed to down in an untouched bunker.

Finding a ghoul boy in a fridge and then taking him back to his family's house where you're not sure what you're going to find could have been way more interesting.

>>212851975
As opposed to the average American?

>>212852001
Gotta activate your thetans, Sammy boy!

>>212847895
Holy kek.

>>212852212
Yep, gotta lose the fat early. Skin doesn't spring back as you age. Eventually requires surgery.

>>212852302
>Even when just speaking about a eurofag, and comparing him to the weight of the average euro, europoors still bring up america for some reason

>>212852206
They were perfect for each other. ;_;

>>212852354
So did you somehow mean that he's the average European weight or what? Because he's definitely still fatter than the average European, man. No one who sees him on the street would think he isn't fat. He just isn't morbidly obese.

>>212847391 (OP)
He didn't answer the question because he's insecure in his fatness.

>>212852444
>So did you somehow mean that he's the average European weight or what?
You mean, the exact thing I said in the comment you responded to? Yes, that is what I meant.
>Because he's definitely still fatter than the average European, man.
Hahahaha ok buddy

As a fatass, I made lots of excuses over the years. 6 months ago I got heart problems and got a triple bypass (REY BYPASS!). Since then I've lost about 100 pounds. The trick? Having to be 5 hours without eating so I can take my sugar levels 3 times a day. Basically not eating all the fucking time. After a while (2-3 months) I stopped being hungry like I used to and it's not hard to eat normally.
Motivation. Not eating between meals. Eating a little less during meals. That's all. I still eat desserts, chips, etc, but much less. I eat more fruits and veggies, but not that much more.
My blood work is now perfect in every way.

>>212852823
>this is what delusional fatties actually believe

>>212849165
lel

>>212852922
Yep, change is hard and uncomfortable, and denying yourself requires self control and going through some mild bad feelings for a time. The majority don't have that willpower. They seek anyone that says it's impossible or offers miracle cures instead. It's sad that it takes life risking events to force the change, but there it is.

>>212852168
I had what you had until about 28 years old. It was such a chore to eat food and working out at the gym requires a lot of food and it was absolutely impossible to eat enough to gain any muscle, hell I was lucky to not keep losing weight. I really had zero concept of how people could gain weight or even enjoy over eating, that is just so insane to me. Then I got hurt and now I drink and can eat such an absurd amount of food and still feel like I haven't eaten all day, I'm talking 2 frozen pizzas, a full box of Mac n cheese, and a pint of ice cream in one sitting and I could easily eat more. Still not fat though, fuck fatties.

>>212847453
They are in a magic island, they are all dead.

>>212847391 (OP)
>Actor
>Doesn't know what suspension of disbelief is
G-d I hate fat people

>>212847895
Jonny sack is the only stand up guy on that show

>>212847391 (OP)
He looks like Eddie Van Halen's son.

>>212853171
You didn't understand the show at all. They are trapped between time. When the show ends they resume the real timeline and die in the crash of the plane. It's sci-fi and spiritual, not religious.

>>212852957
I agree it's really funny that Euros think they're skinny

>>212850581
True. She’s basically soccer mom incarnate

>>212851438
Sam was never going to become a hardass and the whole point of his arc is it makes more sense for him to become a scholar/maester and he couldn't do that until his dad disowned him. But him still being morbidly obese despite trekking through the woods for weeks eating nothing but rationed hardtack does raise some reasonable questions

>>212853139
The only time I've eaten ice cream for dessert every day was when I was put on this medication meant to help me sleep that I later found out they also give to anorexics because apparently the number one side effect is that you never feel full. It was really fucking strange to just be walking around and thinking "oh you know what? I think I'll have another slice of pizza, or a bowl of ice cream, or a sandwich to chew on while I watch a movie" when before every meal was a chore. I gained weight so fast that I still have stretch marks on the inside of my thighs. I was still never actually fat, though. I just got a bit overweight, felt my pants getting tight and one day I saw my chest in profile in the mirror when getting out of the shower and saw a hint of a moob forming. That was enough to give me this massive wave of dysphoria, like it was ridiculous how sick the idea of having tits made me feel, and I immediately cut back on snacks and desserts. It seems these guys get that same wave of dysphoria when seeing their body but instead of stopping it they drown those feelings in even more food? Shit makes no sense to me.

>>212853475
>sloshed Cersei starting a brawl at Tommen's pee wee soccer game in an extremely prestigious, snotty private school
I can see it clear as day.

>>212847391 (OP)
The dragons are explained. The cloud is explained. This is a world of magic, and the magic is clearly and unambiguously present here. This is also a series where people literally die of starvation, so eating for sustenance is clearly part of the universe. So it sam is fat he must be eating a lot. UNLESS he's fat because of magic, which must be explained (it's not)

>>212853139
>frozen pizzas, a full box of Mac n cheese, and a pint of ice cream in one sitting
You're eating simple carbs and sugars. That's the bane of everyone since they don't make you feel full. Try eating a bunch of lean protein, fruits, and veggies and see what happens

>>212852109
>Ozempic is also a drug for diabetics so people who take it for aesthetic create artificial scarcity. It's exactly like troons with test hormones.
From what I understand, they made a new brand of the same drug (Mounjaro) to sell to actual diabetics. I think Ozempic is now just purely for weight loss.

>>212853202
>wants someone clipped over bants
incel behavior Tbh

>>212854108
Why dont you go home and get your fucking shinebox?

>>212852001
>gets slim
>no longer funny, no longer gets roles
many such cases

>>212854152
no need to talk fresh anon

>>212854179
He was already not getting roles, because of the scientology stuff, and decided to try and reinvent himself. Many such cases!

>>212854561
>scientology stuff
tom cruise and will smith didn't have that excuse

If the story is about how hard a group is struggling to survive or similar things, yeah I don't want some fat ass saying how much he's going through it otherwise it's so silly it becomes a joke.
Looking the part matters.

>>212854759
Tom Cruise only gets away with it because he's Tom Cruise the movie star AND the top dog of the organisation, so they work overtime to make sure his PR is great at all times. The lower rung guys don't get that treatment and so the rest of the industry rightfully just sees a weirdo cultist. If you need a fat guy and your choice is between a cultist and a non-cultist you'll go with the non-cultist who won't try to rope in more of his fellow cultists into the production until they've taken the whole thing over, like they do with real estate.

Is this the "obvious things that went over the audiences head" thread? Because this one always confused men. You'll never understand the pain and struggle of being a woman.

>>212854880
Nooo actors and actresses shouldn't have to beef up or lose weight to play the other people their jobs require!

>>212847854
>>212849516
I always loved the scenes where Hurley was stuffing himself with food. That dream he has where he raids the food pantry is so comfy and kino.

>>212854880
I can excuse someone being a bit overweight even if it's a survival situation. There's no need to have every guy in the Night's Watch lose weight during their forced march. But Sam wasn't just a bit fat, he was fucking obese. All those guys need to do is skip a few meals and the pounds melt off them, which is why they go on silly diets and think it's fantastic because just after a day or two the bathroom scales tell them they've already lost weight, but then when the weight stops disappearing that fast they grow disheartened and start eating again.

>>212847391 (OP)
>>212849569
>>212854880
>>212855094
You guys realize this is an adaptation of a novel series right? GRRM wrote the fatty to be fat and stay fat, that's how the actor should portray the character. Blame him and his self-insert faggotry

>>212855326
yup, sam was always a grrm self-insert

>>212855326
Sam does not stay fat in the book. He goes into detail how he's losing weight and looking toned. He does however become a cuck husband raising the guy's incest dad-baby

>>212855326
>and stay fat
But he doesn't in the books. He starts losing weight when they're ranging. Even from the start it's pointed out that the only reason he's not losing weight at the wall to begin with is because he's quickly put in a servant role that doesn't have him do anything strenuous, so he's eating the same rations that everyone else does but they're all spending the days lugging ice blocks and doing sword exercises while he's looking after an old man and feeding some ravens.

The real counter is because it’s not fidelifaux: that is, it does not feel “true to the false” or “faithful to the fiction”

same reason why having the USS enterprise show up in Game of Thrones would be ridiculous, or for more subtle examples, why modern social etiquette / modern gender relations would feel off in Lord of the Rings, Why it would be ridiculous for Star Wars characters to be playing a Call of Duty shooter— none of that feels true/faithful to the fictional world that’s been created.

fictional universes rely on internal consistency or else you end up with a world that feels non-deterministic, and thus, uninteresting.

>>212854986
the funny thing is women believe this