The cult of Miyazaki and Anno were a mistake.

The cult of Tolkien is worse. Such boring "people".

Isao Takahata mogged Miyazaki.
Satoshi Kon mogged Anno.

>>212865231 (OP)
Miyazaki is a better artist than Tolkien

>>212865231 (OP)
Can you explain in 2 sentences why?
I'm not watching that shit.

what did miyazaki like? not even seething or anything, just genuinely curious. i know he was inspired by the snow queen soviet animation, but dont really know anything else.

>>212865363
He liked Imperial Japan.

>>212865413
im speaking about creative inspiration. he clearly wasnt insular as he had a liking for a piece of soviet animation

>>212865231 (OP)
Every human in the Ghibli art style looks like this to me

>>212865458
Underage girls.

>>212865363
he likes Gulliver's Travels

>>212865307
Tranime fans not being delusional challenge, difficulty: impossible

>>212865231 (OP)
>11 minutes
*pauses disco elysium on steamdeck*
... what??? only 11 minutes?? you must be joking, i need AT LEAST 3 hours of video essay kino to make me even remotely interested. 11 minutes is just not enough time to pretend someone else is my friend and make me forget how shitty my life is

>>212865363
Planes
Soviet animation in general, not just Snow Queen; he has great respect for the author of Hedgehog in The Fog - Yurii Norshtein.

>>212865307
This. Tolkien is prolix as hell.

>>212865260
GRRM's cult of hating Tolkien is worse.

>tranime faggots really have the worst taste imaginable.

>American make movie, throw naked crack baby into volcano and young Japanese cheer. I say, "hey, who do you think crack baby is?"

>And American stirr no say they sorry for dropping atomic bombaru.

>>212865850
Oh no no no

Is there anyone in human history that has more fake quotes attributed to him and more real quotes misinterpreted and taken out of context than Miyazaki?

>>212865231 (OP)
Miyazaki makes great movies. I don't really care about his personal opinions.

only fellowship is good

>>212865728
pedophilia is immoral

hayao miyazaki hates everything especially movies

>>212865542
I haven't read the books but ngl the movies are kind of overrated. The scope feels really small, for example when they go to that hill town its like 5 houses and a castle.

>>212865231 (OP)
>“If someone is the enemy, it’s okay to kill endless numbers of them,” he continued. “Lord of the Rings is like that. If it’s the enemy, there’s killing without separation between civilians and soldiers. That falls within collateral damage. How many people are being killed in attacks in Afghanistan? The Lord of the Rings is a movie that has no problem doing that [not separating civilians from enemies, apparently]. If you read the original work, you’ll understand, but in reality, the ones who were being killed are Asians and Africans. Those who don’t know that, yet say they love fantasy are idiots"
Holy shit he actually is doing the meme

>>212866014
No it isn't.

>>212865946
pretty much this. He’s so full of himself it’s insane. His disdain for his son is also really bizarre, I remember watching some quick interview where Miyazaki publicly bashed his own son’s first film. Ironic for a guy famous for making films mostly aimed at children.

>>212866042
Especially his own.

>>212866068
what a retard.

>>212866068
>why yes when I see orcs, who are essentially demonic in canon, I immediately think of both africans and my fellow asians, how could you tell?

>>212866068
>>212866615
Isn't this the same guy who misses pre-war Japan? I thought he'd approve? Is he just that contrarian or am I misunderstanding?

>>212866068
The subtext of this quote is that he has no real artistic criticism for the work and is super jealous.

>>212866686
He dislikes imperial japan, but the confusion comes from his loves WW2 japanese warplanes

>>212867677
This desu. It's hard to take him seriously when he's going to cry about war crimes as if his own country isn't guilty as well.

>>212865809
anime is the highest form of art in the world though, and weebs recognize that

The greatest achievement of humanity and art is music, let's not kid ourselves.

>>212866235
Pretty sure his greatest shame is his son.

>>212867809
true

>>212865363
Lolita.

>>212867809
True, anime definitely does that

>>212865906
George Carlin

One is 20yo Hollywood slop that is no longer relevant and has had a bad TV sequel.

The other one is actual art, such as the AI art debate, that is still relevant and recently won an Oscar.

>>212866068
>Miyazaki is a retard that can't compartmentalize enjoyment of fiction from reality
Fucked up learning one of my favorite artists is a legitimate midwit

>>212868414
>still relevant
More people like lotr than people like miyazaki movies

>movie trilogy filmed in new zealand with a mostly british, australian and new zealander cast
>based on a book written in the 40s by a Brit who was born in South Africa
>made by a NZ director, with an Australian cinematographer and a Canadian composer
>hmm I bet the americans did this!
is he a brainlet

>>212868414
fpbp
>>212868667
only rapidly aging millenials like lotr

The Cult of Tolkien is the most embarrassing of all.

>>212865571

>>212868708
>American production
>American actors
>American audience

>>212866068

>>212867760
Evangelion nerds need to be cut down to size by critics already. That abberation of a reboot is an embarassment which furthers Miyazaki's midwittery.

>>212868745
>only rapidly aging millenials like lotr
My silent 1930s grandparents and 1960s parents and their cohort didn't exist I guess.

>>212868414
>actual art
No film he's made aside from Grave of the Fireflies is really high-art
The rest are just fantastical cartoons

>>212869291
Graveyard is Ghibli but not Mayazaki.

>>212869458
Oh well fuck him then he's just a children's cartoon maker that got uppity

>>212869514
>children's cartoon maker
Best part is that My Neighbor Totoro and Grave of the Fireflies were released theatrically as a double-feature

HE HATED CARS

>>212869618
best part OF WHAT??

>Tolkien hates war but understand that you don't have a choice because evil will start it anyways
>Miyazaki thinks Tolkien is pro war because the good guys are good a fighting and win ( unlike the japs who were pro war and the bad guys and lost and Japs will never, ever, ever get over that )

>>212865260
Name as better British writer of the 20th century

>>212865850
Kek

>>212865347
he's butthurt over losing the war and the cold war

>>212870154
I'll name 3
>Ian Fleming
>George Orwell
>A. A. Milne

>>212865953
Fellowship is all set up. Towers is the most entertaining and Return has all of the pay off

>>212865363
Little Nemo

>>212865231 (OP)
don't care what this old faggot nip thinks about anything

>>212866068
They aren't humans
They're orcs...they're corrupted elves that spring forth from the earth like maggots to serve evil.

>>212870299
I knew someone was gonna bring up that James Bond poofter

>>212869291
Grave is cheap sentimental nonsense and the fantasy animations Miyazaki made are way better. They capture a unique breadth of emotion and feeling that’s hard to find elsewhere. Fireflies is just another sad story where MCs die, who cares.

>>212865271
Dezaki mogged both a two decades earlier

>>212868414
Based, fantasytards seething forever.

>>212870154
G K Chesterton
HG Wells
E R Eddison
That was extremely fucking easy.

>>212870785
fraid so

>pedo creep oldassgeek lib plagiarist hates true art
and water is wet

>>212870753
ur gay

>>212865231 (OP)
Not enough cunny for mr Miyazaki I assume?

>>212865363
Ironically he really like the simillarion

>>212870154
JK Rowling

>>212865363
French stuff, lists of his favorite movies are all French shit

>>212865231 (OP)
>The cult of Miyazaki
Promoted in the 90s by western cucks trying to like safe-anime products for mature and intellectual people like themselves. Except, of course, for those years of the mononoke hime disaster horrifying the usual disney-friendly dicklets who wanted to see stories with children for the "family." Luckily for them, the old fart fixed this with the insipid Chihiro.

>>212873401
>pedo loves french shit
Pottery.

>>212866068
>Asians and Africans
Ok. Africans are orcs and similar, uruk hais? So... asians are what exactly?

>>212866068
Fair criticism, you'd have to be really mad and insecure to seethe at that comment

>>212866068
I imagine he prefers civilians being raped instead.

>>212873775
I imagine you're a real weird guy irl

>>212865906
Oscar Wilde?

He could have done a Mononoke trilogy but instead he made gay ass stupid ass Spirited Away, stupid ass bath ho use giant baby fucking witch stupid dog shit ass movie

>>212867760
BASED ALERT

>>212866014
It was perfecty fine for 6000 years up untill 1900, only 100 years ago.
But ok

>>212874382
For being very universally accessible media among all ages and cultures Dragonball still manages to have some key story beats that people still to this day struggle to grasp which means it has a genuinely impressive depth of writing despite it's rep as being simple action shonen

>>212865363
Little girls.

>>212867809
You mean the thing birds do by default?
Wow

>>212873495
Cave trolls

>>212874587
It's hard to have story beats when there's no stakes ever

>>212874755
See what I mean? Finna filtered

>>212865231 (OP)
Doesnt Miyazaki hate everything? Sure the guy can make a pretty cartoon , but hes kind of a cranky fucker...

>>212865231 (OP)
Asians philosophically were unable to reach epistemology. They dont even have full theory of mind, not worth caring about their opinions intellectually or otherwise. Plus they plagiarize everything too.

Also lotr sucks and is for autistic manchildren

>>212866068
And ye, he glorified the IJA literally treating the Chinese like that.