>DC Studios’ co-chief James Gunn has said repeatedly that he will only greenlight projects that have a complete script. That is a pointed difference from Marvel Studios, which famously reworks movies throughout the filmmaking process. Feige took issue with both the comparison between Gunn’s mandate at DC and Marvel’s approach, and the idea that Marvel needed to radically alter how it makes its projects.

>"I know there are filmmakers — James in my experience isn’t one of them; maybe he is now — who say, ‘If you want to be a part of my movie, you just say the words and you stay here the entire schedule in case we need you.’ We have so many actors, we can’t do that. We don’t do that. Actors, both the ones that are playing these characters for the first or second time and the characters playing them for the 10th or 12th time, are the best in the world at it and know these characters so well,” Feige said. “If they have an idea, you want to listen to it and you want to adjust to it and you want to improve it. I wouldn’t want to change that.”

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/marvel-kevin-feige-robert-downey-jr-miles-morales-1236465488/

It begins.

so it's the actor's fault they work from unfinished scripts?

why do faggot journos think two people having an argument is news

>>212936807
Why have you been holding on to this pic for five years, bro?

>>212936857
This is an argument between studio heads.

>>212936904
Because it still makes me laugh.

They are literally shooting Doomsday right now without a finished script or a full cast

It seems like an inoffensive remark to make, but Gunn really baited Feige.

>>212937183
>Gunn really baited Feige.

Did he, though? Feige's response was pretty classy all things considered.

Seems like kind of a non-sequitur.

>>212937430
Gunn said it months ago and Fiege is still trying to rebut it.

>>212936737 (OP)
Explains why the MCU is an incoherent mess where the actors don't even know which movies they're in.

>>212937489
Seems like Gunn is still triggered by something that happened while doing his horrific guardians movies and can't come out and say it. Bitch move on his part. Why are all his movies the same if they were done so differently under marvel?

>>212936737 (OP)
>I have no creative vision and will just play the political game to try to stay friends with everyone to retain my position

translation

>>212937551
Paltrow being a braindead whore or Fishburne having Alzheimer's is not Marvel's fault.

>>212937609
>its their own Paltrow and Fishburne didn't re-write their scripts well enough

kek

>>212937489
Let's see if Gunn can make a cinematic universe like feige did and then we can compare who comes out on top here.
I'm obviously talking about iron man to endgame here. And we both know that Gunn's DCU will never get that kind of success commercial, critically or even just liked by the fans

>>212937641
>so mad that he forgot to type a word in his incompetence and rage
Keep defending Paltrow, she'll send you her vagina scented candles as a reward for defending her honor.

kek

Marvel is so fucked lmaooooooo

>>212937551
Especially the guardians of the galaxy movies. Now those were unwatchable pieces of shit

>>212937489
>Gunn said it months ago

He said it as far back as last week. It's his go-to to prop up DC Studios.

>>212936737 (OP)
People still care about capeshit wars? the capeshit decade ended with Infinity War. Don't be a manchild and let this be your identity like Star Wars cucks.

>>212936737 (OP)
Oh wow...he admits he is a fucking hack.

>>212936737 (OP)
>and the characters playing them for the 10th or 12th time, are the best in the world at it and know these characters so well,” Feige said. “If they have an idea, you want to listen to it and you want to adjust to it and you want to improve it. I wouldn’t want to change that.”
So why didn't Chris Hemsworth salvage Thor Love & Thunder?

>>212936737 (OP)
He's rallying Marvelchads to mog dc for the 20th time in a row

>and I have never been satisfied with a script that we’ve had,” he said. “I’ve never been satisfied with a movie we’ve released.”

uhhhhh Kevin? Should you say that out loud?

>>212937649
>I'm obviously talking about iron man to endgame here
That would be Joss Whedon, not Kevin Faggy

>>212937836
Hemsworth did take responsibility for getting too caught up in the improv and hurting the character's gravitas, which is why he is pushing for a darker and edgier Thor 5 to give the character a proper sendoff.

>>212937745
Why didn't he read the batman 2 script then? Is he not the co-head of the studio anymore?

>>212938000
Sure, Gunn, keep seething. Feige was the head of the studio like Gunn is now at DC, retard. He was the mastermind behind the whole cinematic universe thing

>>212938102
Faggy didn't take over until after the second Avengers film. He didn't build the franchise. He's the one who destroyed it

Its gonna be so fucking funny when F4 ends up doing worse than Thunderbolts...

>>212938222
This time for sure were beating Marvel

>>212936737 (OP)
How does anyone disagree with Gunn? I'm sure if an actor had a really good suggestion that fits into the existing script without too much trouble, he'd work it in. But you can't gauge that unless you're working from a finished script in the first place.

>>212938222
Bro I'm gonna piss myself laughing. Imagine putting all your eggs in the Pedro Pascal basket. Couldn't be me

>>212938260
Gunn made the guardians and suicide squad. He's a retard making shitty movies with retarded dialogue and messy haphazard nonsense stories.
Are we supposed to forget that?

>>212938222
How panicked would they be?

>>212938259
Right...because its totally about console wars, not about the last MCU flicks doing flop numbers compared with the late 10s...bitch, its fucking over.

>>212938282
Kirby is the bigger problem here. No star power, can't act and ugly as sin

>>212936737 (OP)
>DC Studios’ co-chief James Gunn has said repeatedly that he will only greenlight projects that have a complete script. That is a pointed difference from Marvel Studios, which famously reworks movies throughout the filmmaking process. Feige took issue with both the comparison between Gunn’s mandate at DC and Marvel’s approach, and the idea that Marvel needed to radically alter how it makes its projects.

Actually it was more pointed inwardly at how DC had become before they took over and how things,were going to be different now as they will have better quality control and no fucking about with scripts now.

Look at later Zombie Snyderverse films like Aquaman 2 and The Flash. They do have the odd cool moment but overall you feel they were working on the script, rewriting on the fly even as they were shooting,giving a bloated end product with little of the original vision.

Look at the screenplay credits for Aquaman 2, there's about 20 people listed, and I highly doubt they were ever in the same room at the same timeworking on the script. No wonder it was messy in the end.

If Feige chooses to see that as a dig at him, that tells you a lot about his state of mind.

>>212936737 (OP)
>“If they have an idea, you want to listen to it and you want to adjust to it and you want to improve it. I wouldn’t want to change that.”
Why would you let the actors dictate the script?

>>212937430
It doesn't sound classy at all. Feels like he's seething a little bit about the fact these b-movie and sitcom directors like the Russos can't produce the level of quality that real directors like Favreau, Brannagh, Wright, Johnston, Gunn and even Whedon could, which is what really built the franchise in the first place.

>>212938401
Snyder was kicked out after bvs. There was never a Snyderverse. Two movies aren't a 'verse', jeet.

>>212938485
Daniel Day Lewis does it all day on set and all of of the retards on /tv/ eat it up.

>>212938538
>Feels like he's seething a little bit

Feels like you're projecting.

>>212936737 (OP)
> “If they have an idea, you want to listen to it and you want to adjust to it and you want to improve it. I wouldn’t want to change that.”

Wow. Actors are not writers. They get paid to read lines from people who are actually creative. You start listening to actors and things go to shit. Joker 2 was an abomination because they catered go Phoenix who had a dream of the Joker movie being a musical. Birds of Prey was garbage because they gave Margo Robbie control and she wanted to make it some woman empowerment movie and for Harley to cover up

>>212938538
Yeah, shitting your pants because of what happened at marvel after the fact and not while you're there is so classy and Gunn isn't seething at all here.

>>212938598
Plenty of movies got improved by input of actors. Won't spoonfeed you which actor and which movie though. Stay mad.

>>212937906
at least he's in touch with the experience of watching the MCU

>>212938575
Daniel Day Lewis is a bit more respected than Chris Hemsworth.

>>212938654
Especially Gunn's mcu flicks. Yikes.

>>212938675
>let's move the goal posts already
I accept your concession on his behalf
>inb4 nta
Me neither, first post in this thread

>>212938222
I find it really hard to believe that Galactus will ever work on screen. he's fucking ridiculous-looking.

>If there is even a 1% chance Gunn will mog our studio we have to take it as an absolute certainity, and we have to blacklist him (again)
>But he is not our enemy!

>>212937649
Feige had nothing to do with making Marvel universe. It starts before Disney even fully owned Marvel. Avi Arad is who started Marvel universe with Iron Man.

>>212938710
There are obvious exceptions, but for the most part, actors are cattle and need to do as they are told.

>>212938753
He just produced all of them, yeah, he had nothing to do with them. Keep seething, Gunn.

>>212938651
Suggestions for a scene from an actor is one thing, catering an entire working script is another. There is a big difference

>>212938317
Since when did guardians become bad? Is this bait or are we comparing them to non comic book movies?

>>212938765
Lewis sucks. Sorry, I don't care that retards like you love him

>>212938819
Since when are they good and other marvel movies are bad? Is your post bait?

>>212938317
you're just shooting the messenger

>>212938813
Avid was the boss. And I can tell you non of the actors in early Marvel movies where being by catered to. Not even Downey Jr. Studios found these actors replaceable and could get anyone to fill the parts. Sony was going to fire Maguire for Spider Man 2 because Maguire was using back issues to stall out so he could get paid more money

>>212938875
Guardians are some of the better comic book movies out there, not sure how delusional you have to be to not think so

Ok but can you do Batman/Joker right for once

>>212938929
lol

>>212938931
it was already done right twice.

>>212938969
Which comic book movies are better then, anon, let’s hear your amazing taste

what's with all the feige dick riders in this thread?

>>212939255
sneederjeets lashing out desperately anything related with Gunn.

>>212938401
Aquaman 2 also shot scenes with both Affleck and Keaton as Batman as the release date flipped between before and after Flash, before ultimately just scrapping the Batman scene entirely.
Shazam 2 also deserves to be mentioned in this post. They were banking hard on having Black Adam as the villain, and when Dwayne Johnson had his ego trip and decided no one less than Superman could fight his character, they were caught with their pants down and no backup plan, so they threw together some OC villains.
The movie even ends with a post credits scene with Sivana and Mr. Mind that is functionally identical to his scene from the first movie.

>>212936737 (OP)
Feige missing Gunn's point. Gunn isn't saying actors should not be allowed to improvise or bring input, he's saying you should have the story and structure set up before filming begins so you don't end up spending a fortune re-shooting.

>>212938538
Russos are slopmasters supreme here in the 20s, but even their worst Marvel movie, Endgame, is better than any of Whedon's.

Fantastic Four > SuperSlop

>>212938598
Actors can sometimes come up with amazing stuff, though.

Rutger Hauer in Bladerunner is a legendary example, Andreas Katsulas in Babylon 5 is another.

>>212939924
Jew

>>212939896
you always had me believing you believe this

>>212936737 (OP)
I'm no fan of Gunn, or his style, but I still prefer a film that is the product of a coherent vision instead of the movie-by-committee mess that Marvel shits out now. You're not watching anyone's story so much as a hodgepodge of crap made up as they went along and it clearly feels like it. I'd rather a shitty story that was planned out than even a well acted and made (meaning not Marvel) movie that is just cobbled together from improvised bits with no direction.

>>212937430
>>Gunn really baited Feige.
them together buried this genre

>>212936941
They can just CGI and AI to patch the holes.

>>212939896
Objectively true.

>>212938991
No, those Batman movies got Batman wrong and made him a laughing stock

>>212940938
if you think left>right you are a retard.
left doesn't remotely work in live-action unless you want the movie to look like something RLM would watch in Pinketto.

>>212938713
Early screenings this week are confirming the leaks that came out a while back saying that he's actually a relatively normal sized dude that can use his ship to project a giant hologram into the space around a planet (giving the appearance of a giant, planet sized humanoid)

>>212941077
Homo

Is anyone legitimately a DC-only or Marvel-only fan?
I figure if you watch one comic book movie you'll watch another despite of which franchise it's from. But a lot of online discourse is really tribal.

>>212941241
Holy fuck what is wrong with the cursed live-action Fantastic Four movies and their fucked up versions of Galactus

>>212936737 (OP)
>copies MCU into the DCU
>slams MCU saying DCU is unique
what the fuck is this pedophile's problem

>>212941293
I have periods whether I prefer one over the other but they do have differences so I don't think it would be a good idea to merge them, like some people want. I don't even like the crossover events in the comics.

>>212941337
where*

>>212937836
>>212938056
Hemsworth and Waititi did nothing wrong. They basically made another Ragnarok which presumably everyone wanted and then when the movie finally came out all of a sudden people wanted another Dark World. It was just plain bad luck.

>>212941241
>>212941298
it isn't only the scale, his design just looks ridiculous.
the power level he's supposed to have is constantly at odds with how silly he looks.

he's also inherently hard to make work because the F4 can't fight him properly and he can't have any partial successes. it doesn't surprise me that the leaks confirm act 3 is about him walking very slowly towards a plot device while they try to stop him.

Blowing the Galactus load on the very first F4 movie is a hilarious decision when he could easily be a Thanos style villain. Why not make the villain fully Silver Surfer? Why establish the 4 can already handle the strongest fucking thing out there? Realistically how do you power scale fucking Dr Doom to Galactus? Galactus literally eats planets

>>212938401
The only thing that changed around with The Flash was the ending. Aquaman 2 went to through changes all around the movie. ReleaseTheAffleckCut.

>>212941293
i used to like both (snyderverse and MCU until Endgame). then MCU got woke as fuck, and i opted to become a DCEU fanboy, only to see the movies started to make no sense. then i watched DCU boot with Superman and decided i hate DCU as well. figured, hey maybe marvel as improved and watched Thunderbolts literally just two hours ago and holy fuck it's still so bad and still wokified garbage.

>>212936937
Makes me kek too don’t worry. Why is the black guy so damn sweaty?

>>212940938
Relax anon, it’ll be fine. James Gunn will make up for it once we inevitably see Power Girl on screen which is gonna open the floodgates to other revealing costumes being seen. Gunn worked on lolipop chainsaw, he’s part of that “sexualization is cool if it’s empowering”crowd.

>>212938401
Yeah I don’t remember Gunn ever specifically saying that’s something Marvel does it’s just everyone knows that MCU movies, starting all the way back with Iron Man, don’t have shit for a script and just hope they can make it all work in editing.

>>212941470
The MCU version just has a giant dreadnaught ship that blows planets to smithereens and then harvests all the resources, the character of Galactus is just a big guy (like 20ish feet tall) and can do some projection thing from his ship to appear a lot bigger

>>212941077
Its a space pulp fantasy character unironically too high brow for retards like you.

>>212936737 (OP)
Gunn's criticisms don't really matter since superman flopped

>>212941719
James Gunn is the only reason space pulp is even a thing, and if he thinks something is over the top you kind of have to listen.

>>212941470
>he could easily be a Thanos style villain

No, he couldn't. Galactus isn't actively malicious like Thanos, he is an universal force. All Galactus stories boil down to "Galactus is gonna eat us" until someone, usually Reed, pulls a device out of his ass to drive him away for a while.

Galactus can't fight, can't interact with character, doesn't have emotion, doesn't have goals beyond "eat". He's a one-movie villain, always has been.

>>212941241
that's fucking retarded, makes me wish he was a cloud, at least it was a big cloud

>>212941293
it's hard, DC is "we have all the cool characters except Spider-Man and Dr. Doom but we're run by hacks" and Marvel is "we have all the lame characters except Spider-Man and Dr. Doom but we were (previously) run by people not quite as hackish as DC,"

>>212938222
Thunderbolts is the only thing remote to decent to come out since GotG3 and between that and Endgame there was only Spider-Man which performed well because of nostalgia bait. They really did set the bar so damn low that it would be funny to see even their own B/C-List characters outperform a new mainline movie.

>>212938401
>>212939823
Daily reminder there is a whole James Wan Aquaman 2 cut that according to actors was a whole different movie and featured Affleck heavily in the third act with a deep ocean batsuit. The keaton thing was a just a single scene after they cut Affleck from the movie.

>>212943047
>Thunderbolts is the only thing remote to decent to come out since GotG3
infinity war and deadpool/wolverine were the last two good movies. everything after infinity war that wasn't deadpool/wolverine was dogshit.