>I don't give too much of a shit what people do behind closed doors with consenting adults.

Tony was weirdly liberal sometimes

why would anyone care?

Wasn't Phil a closeted homo?

Him literally coming out the closet during Vito's death and clutching the bed were two obvious signs that he took it in the ass in prison

>>212970251 (OP)
Thats because Vito made him money

>>212970251 (OP)
Vito was a good earner and Tony was a fat, greedy fuck

>>212970251 (OP)
>and then he calls people fags and is homophobic multiple times after this
It's almost like he was just trying to impress the doctor he was trying to have sex with or something

He was just a depressive nihilistic piece of shit like his mom. Didn't even care about any of the bullshit he got mad about. Everything he did and all his rage was just a distraction

>>212970295

>>212970404
catching or pitching?

>>212970277
heeza faaaaag

JCakes could have done way better than Vito in Munchertown NH. It leads me to conclude Cakes did some really kinky shit with Vito once he got all horned up after getting his ass kicked.

>>212970251 (OP)
He looks pretty funny in that screenshot, OP. Like a gopher or something.

>>212970292
He’s a real come from behind guy.

Gays gained a measure of acceptance in America when corporations saw them as a market to sell to. Tony's fine with gays because Vito made him a lot of money.

>>212971552
Interesting

>>212970338

/thread

>>212970404
Based Carm

>>212970251 (OP)
In the later seasons when Chase realized the Chuds weren't getting the right message that Tony was bad, so he started having Tony act liberal to "own" them.

>>212970251 (OP)
>murdering sociopath who ruins countless of lives is pro-lgbtqp+ and works with blacks and other POC
what did chase mean by this

>>212970251 (OP)
He's a typical east coast NYC/NJ/Boston/Philly lib where he says and thinks racist and homophobic shit all the time but isn't really invested in it enough for it to influence their politics in any meaningful way. His dad probably beat up spooks who trespassed in their neighborhood, it's left over from that era.

>>212970251 (OP)
A big part of Tony's character is being socially adroit and charismatic enough to operate in a tonne of different environments, but not being fully at home in any of them.

He's become too genuinely upper class and absorbed too much of that culture and its sensibilities to truly be himself around the other mobsters. To an extent what he's like at satriallis or the Bing is a persona he puts on, or at the very least an incomplete version of himself.

I didn't pick up on this myself but I saw this great discussion of the episode where he warns meadows black jewish boyfriend not to go out with her. He passes out immediately afterwards. As soon as the guy is gone. And its because of this tension. Because there's this tension between the values and cultural rules he's absorbed since moving up in the world, and the values and cultural mores he's supposed to have, that his father would expect him to have and beat his ass if he didn't. So he has to make himself go against his own instincts and morality such as it is. He has to make himself be Johnny boy and cross these lines against this kid who, while annoying, has done absolutely nothing wrong(this is one of those days where he has a conscience and doesn't want to feel like total scum.) He forces himself against his instincts to be this character, at his fancy suburban home surrounded by his dentist neighbours, not out in mob world, and tank the subconscious stress of breaking these quite deeply internalized rules, and the stress of it is so overwhelming he literally faints the second he's in the clear.

>>212970251 (OP)
Its cause he spent some time in college.

>>212973030
this sounds like some gay subversive breadtube faggot take, the show constantly shoves it in your face that no matter the money or status they exude they are all low class scum, the disconnect tony has is because of the mentality and image he has to keep up to survive as a mob boss, not because of muh class consciousness or anything.

he doesn't care about vito being a faggot even if he hates faggots personally because hes a selfish mobster who simply hates that its going to cause problems for HIM by having the other members chimpout and losing vito (a good earner) over it, its as simple as that. tony is selfish and a bad person who is forced to be even worse.

>>212970251 (OP)
That generation + demographic are basically all "New York Republicans."

>>212970251 (OP)
That's just what conservatives said in the 90's because they didn't want to be called bigots.

>>212970292

Like a lot of stuff it’s never stated explicitly but it’s heavily implied if he isn’t a closeted homo he at least enjoyed all the homosexual encounters he had in prison more than he would like to admit.

>>212973264
People still say it. Same reason people preface statements with shit like "Not trying to be racist". People want to be honest but they don't want to be badgered for their honest and natural feelings.

>>212973282
I mean he tells us he compromised in prison and then gives these tame examples

>>212970251 (OP)
Liberals can't help but put their political views in their shows

>>212970292
>Wasn't Phil a closeted homo?
No, he was a closeted home. Like, an entire home, fully furnished.

>>212973236
Interesting that you denounced that dude's take and then proceeded to completely agree with him.

>>212974698
kek

>Vito brought in 3 times what you do on construction
he was a typical boomer, excepted the lessers as long as they brought him money