I had heard about these movies for years, I was only casually acquainted with the case and assumed the three teens were innocent and had been railroaded by the cops. However, even while watching the Paradise Lost movies for the first time, which are heavily biased in their favor, my alarm bells were going off, telling me that a lot was being left out. I looked into the case independently and yeah, it's pretty clear that they were guilty as fuck. The Damien Echols is a straight psychopath. It disgusted me seeing people like Johnny Depp and Peter Jackson come to his aid and do photo-ops with him. Just goes to show how easy people are to manipulate.

>>212974015 (OP)
I only watched the first movie and could tell right away this freak did it. It's just a vibe, some people can pick up on it and others (usually women and wealthy white people, no joke) are fooled by it.

Everyone in that town seemed like they could be a serial killer

>>212974076
My ex thought he was innocent because le wholesome chungus cartoon interview on the midnight gospel. Women just need to defent child rapists/murderers. Glad they can vote.

>>212974015 (OP)
didn't the main guy lie about his alibi

>>212974015 (OP)
Why is he guilty?

>>212974337
He had been institutionalized for torturing and killing animals, something the movies completely leave out. He also lied about his alibi, and when confronted about it, gave a completely different alibi that was also proven false. Also, it's not like Jessie Misskelly's confession just came out of the blue. Sometimes a spade is just a spade. This faggot fits the profile pretty clearly.

>>212974307
Yes, he gave the police two different alibies that were both proven false.

>>212974475
Also, the big thing the defense flaunted regarding Jessie's confession is that he had a tested IQ of 72, something the movie also underlines. What's left out, however, is that the IQ test was administered AFTER Jessie was told by his attorney that a low score would help his case. An IQ test taken years earlier showed a higher IQ, still low, but not low enough to quality as disability.

>>212974015 (OP)
yeah turns out they did it and the documentaries intentnionally left out a lot o incerdibly damning evidence. a jury convicted them for a reason and not because they were 'dumb inbred hicks at the height of muh satan(ic) panic' HORSE SHIT, but because the evidence was overwelming including the confessions and knowledge of facts undisclosed to the general public. the knife, the candle wax, the muddy shoes given to a friend to take.

Why did Peter Jackson and Johnny Depp and Eddie Veddar get so invovled and want to portray them as innocent? idk

>>212974576
I can understand Johnny Depp and Eddie Veddar and Henry Rollins, they're just dumbasses. Peter Jackson is disappointing, though.

What about that weird father of the kid though? The one who had all his teeth extracted when tye police started looking at dental evidence and was on benzos for his polygraph? Somethings going on there.

>>212974620
being from nz I can tell you were a bleeding heart country that always gets swayed by sob stories

>>212974658
Byers still passed the polygraph, though, not that it means a whole lot. That guy just struck me as a garden variety inbred hillbilly. He probably loved having the camera on him and acted out so they'd pay attention to him. Also, the police did look into him as a suspect, but cleared him.

Let's play Dindu Nuffins or Diddu Sumfins

>Alfred Dreyfus
Nuffins
>Sacco and Vanzetti
Sumfins
>Rosenbergs
Sumfins
>Lyle and Erik Menendez
Sumfins (but they had it coming)
>Central Park 5
Sumfins
>OJ
Sumfins
>John and Pasty Ramsey
Nuffins
>West Memphis 3
Sumfins
>Madeleine Mccann's Parents
Nuffins
>Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey
Sumfins
>Michael Peterson
Nuffins

>>212974910
Agree 100 percent with your list . I even think the Ramsey's are innocent

>>212974015 (OP)
You morons should realize you're not getting enough information from a true crime documentary or reading wikipedia. Internet detectives are the worst. Especially those who decide about guilt based on a vibe.

Echols could just as well be an edgelord teenager who got more fucked up when they put him on a death row for a crime he didn't do

>>212974910
The Ramseys 100% killed their daughter, accidentally or intentionally but they did it.

>>212974571
Meanwhile he still accurately described the crime scene, no? Being low IQ shouldn't be relevant unless they can show the cops fed him the info

>>212974576
>'dumb inbred hicks at the height of muh satan(ic) panic
The irony/hypocrisy is that the film does exactly what it complains about
It indicts Arkansans (?) as railroading the innocent due to prejudice, when actually it's the New Yorker filmmakers who jump to conclusions based on prejudice
They accuse the stepfathers of murder and the police of a frame-job because they assume those rednecks are crazy, evil, incompetent, prejudiced against heavy metal t-shirts etc

>>212974658
>He's "weird"
>He must have killed three children
See >>212975541

Amerisharts from that part of America, are the stepfathers even that weird? I assume that everyone in backwoods Arkansas carries knives and pistols, attends church in a shack and sings a song during the service

>>212974910
>Osama bin Laden

>>212975541
But the locals were stupid hicks, and the police were bumbling idiots tho

>>212975133
Yes but you know who probably did get a lot of information is the jury that convicted them, dipshit

>>212975541
Pretending everyone in Arkansas was terrified by Metallica in 1992 is so retarded on its face

Why do Jews love to get convicted murderers out of prison?

>>212975625
Maybe so, but given the conditions of Arkansas and NYC today, where would you rather live?

>>212974015 (OP)
Law school graduates are laughing at OP and his pathetic thread right now.
This is a very famous case of redneck law enforcement framing some poor teens who listened to the wrong music and were different.
Even the FBI knows this.

>>212975675
Me and my law school friends think Tarantino ripped off French new wave

>>212975669
NYC, Arkansas is still dumb hick central.

>>212974015 (OP)
I felt the same way, this movie turned me off documentaries completely
Btw I read someone somewhere once saying that the third kid, the one everyone forgets, was the real brains/leader/scary one, does anybody know why this would be the case? Not the edgelord, not the retard, the other one, the little gay one

>>212975675
Yeah, I put my faith in the FBI too, they're looking out for our best interests, after all.

>>212975898
The first "documentary" that really got my noggin joggin was Capturing the Friedmans. It's a very well made movie, makes a compelling case, but when you look at all the facts, the manipulation becomes crystal clear and yeah, the father/son were guilty as fuck.

>>212974910
>Michael Peterson
Absolutely did it. Don't give me that owl bullshit.

I like the Devon Stack Blackpilled episode on these docs. He even mentions how Echols knew the kids had urine in their mouths.
It's a shame what happened to Odysee, and that nobody has really talked about it. The whole Mr. White Tuber/All I'm Sayin' and NNR feud, Harold Rosenthal putting a loaded gun to his head, Weston Paradigm-who Martinez had exposed long ago-finally calling it quits, even if they were scammers, grifters, infiltrators or whatever, it was some of the best stuff to watch online. Most online content is trash, and they were trashy, but they pushed the 'based' stuff.
Lu of PNN does okay but he's too autistic and his whole thing with Bo, that hiatus he took, pretty much lost me. Anyway, yeah, RIP Odysee and Bitchute, thanks for years of nice counternarrative content prior to Project Esther.
https://odysee.com/@Blackpilled:b/satanicpanic:2

>>212975945
Another slanted doc made by a Jewish filmmaker. But no surprise, because the perps were Jews too.

>>212974015 (OP)
Childhood is believing Damien & Co. were innocent. Adulthood is realizing there's no way a narcissistic grandiose faggot like Damien (at least) didn't rape/kill those boys.

>>212975265
>>212975265
Pretty sure DNA evidence showed an unidentified third-party male as of literally this year. So if anything they paid some random person to attack their daughter or fuck with her body when she died?

>>212975669
Arkansas but only because the rain storms and cost of living

>>212974576
>muh satan(ic) panic
One of the most successful well poisoning operations in modern history. Very fucking real shit like the Finders cult and the Dutroux Affair and who knows what else was going on all through the 80s and 90s. The Satanic Panic horseshit was cooked up specifically to smear anyone raising awareness about that stuff as a retarded Bible thumping hick freaking out over heavy metal and Dungeons & Dragons.

>>212974910
How about Arthur Leigh Allen zodiac. Some fun docs on that

How about Brabant Killings. That is one of the most action thriller stories of real modern history

>>212974910
This bitch should be rotting in jail right beside the weirdo loser she manipulated into killing her mom too. At least Missouri was based enough to tell her to get the fuck out of the state and not come back when she tried to pull some social media stunt with Taylor Swift after she got out.

>>212975133
Ok retard, what bombshell information do you have that nobody else here does?

>>212974015 (OP)
how we went from "just trust depp on this, bro", to kardashian trying to get a bunch of felons released...psyop after psyop

>>212977783
Uh huh.
>The case lasted seven years but resulted in no convictions, and all charges were dropped in 1990. By the case's end, it had become the longest and most expensive series of criminal trials in American history.
>Some of the accusations were described as "bizarre", overlapping with accusations that mirrored the emerging satanic ritual abuse panic. It was alleged that, in addition to having been sexually abused, the children saw witches fly, traveled in a hot-air balloon, and were taken through underground tunnels. When shown a series of photographs by Danny Davis (the McMartins' lawyer), one child identified actor Chuck Norris as one of the abusers.
> There were claims of orgies at car washes and airports, and of children being flushed down toilets to secret rooms where they would be abused, then cleaned up and presented back to their parents.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial

>>212978162
Sorry sweaty, that's been rebunked and the tunnels were real.

>>212978335
That "report" was conducted by a bunch of randoms, not the FBI. The archive that was found in contains tons of random documents from all kinds of sources pertaining to the Finders case because that's how an investigation works.

>>212978335
Yeah faggot and I bet Chuck Norris actually diddled those poor children too lmao.

>>212974015 (OP)
Echols did it, no doubt about it

>>212974910
This Michael Peterson dude is guilty as fuck lmao.

>>212974015 (OP)
Yeah, other than the fact that there is 0 evidence tying them to the crime scene, totally guilty, 100%
Trust me bro

>>212978335
>Due to sever time constraints our archaeology team was unable to further explore the extent of the tunnel networks

>>212978562
a recorded confession is evidence

>black guy covered in blood and mud enters nearby restaurant
>they found African hair at the crime scene

>>212974910
>Rosenbergs
Nobody denies at this point that the Rosenbergs were guilty. The cope now is that the documents they gave to the Soviets actually weren't that important for their nuclear weapons program

>>212974015 (OP)
I'm surprised these same Hollywood faggots haven't tried to spring the guys who murdered Elyse Pahler from prison. They killed her in a Satanic ritual because they thought the devil would improve their shitty garage band.

>>212978618
>a recorded confession is evidence
Lmao
That's your big comeback?
Everything Jessie told the cops was proven false
Every single thing he said was wrong
One single fact about this case that makes the people like your faggot ass insisting that the dildo, hick prosecutors got it right seem like complete lunatics is this
The murder weapon? The knife that those boys supposedly killed those kids with? It was put into the river a year before the murders.
Again, there is no evidence linking the WM3 to the crime scene
Cope and seethe dumbass

>>212978562
Roastie detected.
Damian ain’t gonna sleep with you

>>212974910
>Leo Frank
Definitely did sumfins

>Roastie detected.
>Damian ain’t gonna sleep with you

>>212974015 (OP)

>>212978683
it's a statement of fact/

>>212974707
Is this just a polynesian thing in general or what?

>>212974475
yeah, all the documentaries are shamefully biased, they completely omit every evidence against the three (and there are many).
they just wanted to push the "they were found guilty just because they were social outcasts who listened to heavy metal in a bigoted small town" narrative and all the dumb celebrities fell for it.
it's been a while since I examined the case, but I would say they 99,9% did it.

>>212978727
>it's a statement of fact/
What?

>>212978713
Didn't he get herpes or hepatitis or something while he was in prison?

212978743
i'm not going in a loop with you
learn to read

>>212977638
That’s an excellent Blackpilled episode, explains all the evidence the HBO docs hid.
That being said, everything past the first sentence you wrote is complete schizobabble.
Brevity nigger.

>>212978713

>>212978642
Kek I love that side story cause it's so schizo

>>212974910
wait are the nuffins ones who did sumfin and the sumfins ones who did nuffin? I'm confused

>>212974015 (OP)
Weird thing about that documentary is that it starts with nightmare fuel, naked and mutilated bodies of the three boys being fished out of the river and put on the shore with Metallica on full blast, and it wasn't censored on yotube at all.

>>212978335
I read a book that connects this with Process Church, Britbong offshoot of Satanists or whatever that migrated to USA and are presently owning a huge compound in Utah, changing its name to reference animal sanctuary.

>>212978792
Damn, thx bro, u must b an oldfag, 'schizobabble,' kind of like 'take ur meds,' u r def a based

Regarding Paradise Lost, the crew spends a ton of time exploiting instability of Byers Sr., trying their best to distract the audience and it worked. Was the documentary crew there by accident? They even made Part 2 where they went all in on Byers.

>>212979032
Yeah that Byers guy was shady, but the other guy as well, Terry or something?

You can tell Echols did it by the number of Hollywood types on his side. They admire him for what he did. For some fake edgy Hollywpod guy like Johnny Depp a bonafide child killer friend is a trophy. It's all just a game to them. However falling for another fake edgy guy like Echols who turns out to be nothing but a hick who tortured pets is also fitting.

>>212974910
The Central Park Five were harassing white people but they absolutely did not rape that jogger. The Latino fella who did it confessed and his DNA matched.

>>212979115
it's been a long time and I was obviously a retard because I thought the documentary was well made and in reality it's crass, unbeliveably exploiting piece of video work even before we get to agenda, but as I remember all family members have watertight alibis

Documentary makers leaned hard on some guy's claim that the ways boys were mutilated proved the three could not have done it since it needed a powerful man to be possible (Byers barely walks)

>>212979131
Don't forget how Shia Laboef openly killed stray dogs in LA and media buried it

>>212977638
it's hilarious that someone whose channel is named blackpilled puts utmost faith into poligraph because, and i quote

>it's not pseudoscience, government employees have to take polygraph tests when they apply for jobs!

i can't

Didn't the Making a Murderer guy turn out to be guilty too?

>>212974015 (OP)
If they didn't do the murders then who did?

>>212979348
They confessed to beating her unconscious then holding her down and groping her tits while the half black/latino did the raping. They mentioned assaulting her before the cops even asked about it - as the cops didn't even know it happened yet as they were investigating a different assault this group committed.
Also harassed is a pretty light way of saying "bashing people in the head with lead pipes until they were knocked into a coma." You subhuman nigger.

>>212980037
Terry Hobbs is the popular theory

Is this the only time Hollywood has done a full on "dindu nuffin" campaign for White males?
It's strange, why this of all things?

>>212978699
checked

>>212977759
she died at the christmas party at a neighbor's house they attended the night before. they brought her home and staged the scene after that.

All these cases are the same

The suspects committed the crime, but there probably wasn't enough evidence to actually convict them

>>212979675
he's an ex-mormon, sometimes he's a little retarded

Echols pissed in one of the kids mouth and cut off the kids balls. He had a history of torturing animals and just tpok the next step. The guy is evil. The other two were just local losers who did his bidding.

>>212974015 (OP)
Blackpilled did an episode going over this case and how the media and celebrities manipulated public opinion to make it appear like they were innocent.
I take all of these documentaries with an enormous grain of salt now. The media is extremely biased and they often have an agenda.

>>212979001
That scene should be censored on grounds of being in incredibly poor taste

>>212979348
Just because they jizzed in their pants instead of in her cunt doesn't mean they didn't participate in the rape or assault, faggot

>>212979378
>Don't forget how Shia Laboef openly killed stray dogs in LA and media buried it
lol wtf
He's the silver lake dog killer?

>>212980243
Absolutely none of that is true, and you know it. They were beaten by the cops and literally told what to say, all while being prevented from having their parents or a lawyer present.

>>212980243
>They confessed to beating her unconscious then holding her down and groping her tits while the half black/latino did the raping.
The rapist said he acted alone so idk where you’re getting that from

>>212981787
kys cuck faggot
hope your grandmother gets raped by a nigger

>>212974015 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vGssh4DWTY&list=PL8n06eCYCjJg-fJzUrSyeVrhPA5ZlLbTA

Definitely looks like a guy who isn't a satanist murderer.

>>212981821
Yeah after he was threatened by a prison gang one of the accused belonged to.

>>212981787
Pure bullshit. The cops didn't even know there was a female victim at the time they confessed/blamed each other for her assault.
They were investigating the group's previous victim who was a male who they bludgeoned and robbed.

You leftist faggots can't keep lying about this, the truth comes out.

>>212974015 (OP)
>hollywood makes 3 movies about these hick teen faggot murderers
>have to point finger at someone else
>pay crazy father-in-law to ham it up on screen
>by the last movie they're accusing turtles of murder

>>212974475
>He also lied about his alibi,
True he said that he was on the phone with some girls
The girls were questioned and they always said they were talking much earlier or way later than Damien said, which gave ample time to do the killings
>Also, it's not like Jessie Misskelly's confession just came out of the blue.
This nigga kept confessing even after he was found guilty, not sure why

>>212977783
I'm still not sure the connection between these satanic cults, ritual abuse and MKULTRA, and jewish power. Are the cults set up to lure gentiles so the jews can manage them easily just like the masons?

>>212977759
the only DNA evidence of an "unidentified male" is a fairly small amount of (I believe) touch DNA found on her panties

if some brute broke into their home, stole her from her bedroom with a stun gun, tied her up, shoved stuff into her vagina, there would be more of said DNA somehwere.

Even her father John said that the DNA might very well belong to a friend of Burke's. This is not a DNA case for the very simple reason that the most likely suspects are reason to have their DNA lying about the crime scene and on the corpse.

>>212979032
and then part 3 where the satanic ritual murderer was a lone wolf snapping turtle

>>212983473
NTA but what if she was molested regular but not from a parent but from family friends and specifically their children
I mean you never know what kids do if they are alone enough together, so that DNA which also had her blood in it could be from one of the kids at that Christmas party they went to, maybe they touched her in some ways that also caused her to bleed a little?

>>212979943
I thought that one was more obvious, especially with the stuff they left out of the doc. Whether or not the kid had anything to do with it didn’t matter though, the cops absolutely fucked him over and it should have been thrown out

>>212974015 (OP)
women thought he was sexy so they got him released