Capeshit peaked here. The Raimi trilogy has more soul and focus than all the dozens of MCU movies put together.

>>212979278 (OP)
>Boring whore drama with same villains
Lolno. Capeshit era ended with Thanos and that's a fact.

>>212979278 (OP)
I agree

>>212979278 (OP)
Based take. I think the same.

>>212979278 (OP)
part 3 sucked so bad and you know it

>>212981566
No it was great

Yeah, it's almost certainly not just nostalgia, right anon?

>>212979278 (OP)
I agree. The Raimi Spiderman movies paid respect to the source material and embraced the fact that they were comic book movies, it was both campy and sincere. However Nolan thought it was a "great idea" to make capeshit le realistic and le gritty and the genre hasn't recovered since.

>>212981608
Batman is gritty retard

>>212979278 (OP)
>>212980142
>>212981608
i’ve seen these exact same opinions every day for so many years. get some originality. i’ll say something different: The Fox X-Men movies are better than the MCU and DOFP is the greatest cape movie of all time.

>>212979278 (OP)
They're easily the best spidey and best superhero movies ever made. They're so good that seeing Tobey and the Rami villains back can actually save a shitty MCU Iron-Spider-Child movie.

>>212981608
the genre has been recovering from that bullshit for about a decade. the two pieces of shit known as josh trank’s fant4stic and snyder’s BvS ended the dark and gritty era of comic book movies. we literally just got a superman movie where he goes out of his way to save a squirrel. it really shows you just straight up don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

ayo

you see this shit here

why arent they stuck to the web

like fuck man, that shit bothers me

part 3 sucked!

>>212981608
But the entire MCU isn't gritty and realistic. That's solely a Batman thing

>>212981608
bro is so stuck in 2008 he thinks Bush is still the president

>>212981583
It's really not. I was marathoning the Spider-Man movies and the TAS. There was a noticeable drop in quality. I preferred the Amazing Spider-Man over the MCU.

>>212981704
that’s based because TASM were better adaptations of the character

>>212980142
Sure feels like summer

>>212981689
From what I remember Rami tanked it on purpose because the studio wanted it one way and Rami said " ok have it your way" and rightly so

>>212979278 (OP)
it peaked at Days of future past

You're remembering only the good parts of those movies and blocking out the bad parts.

>>212981749
i have to disagree with you on that one

the studio had the right idea of introducing venom and sandman and pitting them both against spiderman - that concept alone proves spiderman is the stronger opponent regarless of the number his up against

plus, people wanted venom, not the vulture, its just how they brought venom into the mix that was lackluster

eddie brock is physically bigger than peter, he should mirror him is size. but i get it, raimi wanted topher grace as spiderman since the beginning, and making him eddie was the best he could do with studios interference

>>212981860
he shouldnt* mirror

>>212981824
>peaking at a movie that was crudely rewritten halfway through to be all about Jennifer Lawrence when it was clearly meant to feature Rogue and her powers being the source of the genocidal sentinels, capping the timeline off with her just like it begun with her
I'll never understand the hype people have for that movie. It was done so fucking badly.

>>212981836
I just watched rewatched them. The Raimi trilogy had a theme and lesson to them. The new ones are all spectacle and forced humor. You never have scenes like this in the MCU films because they constantly have to have to make a joke out of everything.
https://youtu.be/Y7DDSzms4kk?si=wyLpFzyRvZHXagg0
https://youtu.be/AWWcv2ZM1Qc?si=TGB14Y2o5OsLKlu0

>>212981608
>paid respect to the source material
He made a Peter Parker that never once shows any sign of intelligence, it's all just a bunch of people telling each other about how smart Peter totally is off screen, they promise. The closest he ever got to showing off Peter's techy side was by having him pull the fucking power cord out of Doc Ock's machine. That's it. That's not respecting the source material, respecting the source material would have kept his intelligence intact and let him build his webshooters to show off that intelligence because it's a fucking crucial part of the character.

>>212981974
he did answer dr connors question correctly with "2 electron volts" or something like that

>>212979278 (OP)
Literally the last super hero movie I've seen.

>>212982024
But that's just following the school curriculum. Peter's supposed to be the guy who can invent stuff in his home lab, tweaking his webshooters to make new kinds of webs and tweaking the formula to deal with different threats better. A guy who would have been revolutionising science and worked with the likes of Reed Richards if he'd never been bitten by the Spider and felt the overpowering need to use his powers to help the little guy. Not just a guy who happens to not fail his college courses.

>>212982175
i understand that, but peter being a nerd for even 5 minutes in the film will cause the npc's to fall asleep

normies relate to relationships and its turmoil a lot more than nerd stuff that only a handful of dweebs can understand

>>212982175
I got bored just reading that nerd shit lmao

>>212982315
>>212982245
>having a simple scene where a character improves his gear requires too much thinking

>>212982338
>a simple scene where a character improves his gear

>>212979278 (OP)
First correct opinion I've seen on /tv/. This movie is legit among the best of the 2000s. Well done, anon.

>>212979278 (OP)
Based

>>212979278 (OP)
The Dark Knight is better.

>>212980142
maybe,he it established the organic webs from Spidey,that's a huge point on Raimi's favor. Lab developed webs are cool and it indicates how intelligent Parker is but in terms of powers it's awful. Without the organic web there's nothing that associates this superhero with fucking spiders besides crawling on walls

>>212982495
raimi created an alternate universe where peter shots webbing from his wrist

without this concept, there would be no multiverse where multiple spidermen shows up and fights bad guys

dont @ me

...and they say that a HERO WILL SAVE US, I'M NOT GONNA STAAAAND HERE AND WAAAAAAAIIT!

>>212982571
I AM VINDICATED
I AM SELFISH
I AM WRONG
I AM RIGHT
I SWEAR I'M RIGHT
I SWEAR I KNEW IT ALL ALONG

1 and 2 are kino I'll never get tired of rewatching. 3 was terrible, and clear there was no passion anymore. The drafts of 4 sounded just as bad with crammed villains and re-treading the same revenge and love triangles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL8hVXSDmNM

>>212982495
>Without the organic web there's nothing that associates this superhero with fucking spiders besides crawling on walls
Except for the spider that bit him and made everything happen

organic web shooters just makes more sense

it just does

the only thing thats buffling about this whole thing is that the spider who bit peter didnt bite anyone else

strange

What's most impressive to me about Raimiman is how so many conflicting tones are juggled expertly. You've got humour, you've got camp, you've got romance, you've got pathos, and everything gels together so well.

One thing I keep absolutely SEETHING about to this day is in No Way Home, when they bring Doc Ock back, they have a callback to picrel, but comedically (Ironboy's nanobot suit takes control of the tentacles). The original scene gives me goosebumps to this day and those fuckers shat all over that.

>>212981893
>when it was clearly meant to feature Rogue and her powers being the source of the genocidal sentinels, capping the timeline off with her just like it begun with her
So you’re just mad your fanfiction wasn’t canon. None of that shit happens in the Rogue Cut so it’s pretty definitive that’s not what was supposed to happen.

>>212982724
It also bit Cindy Moon

>>212982408
congratulations on discovering this website yesterday. now go back.

>>212982786
you fell for my nerd trap

NERD

>>212979278 (OP)
Based

Mary Jane is an unlikeable slut in these films

>>212982806
Everyone watch me work on my gear!

>>212979278 (OP)
>Capeshit peaked here.
>doesn't have a cape

>>212979278 (OP)
Raining, Ang Lee and James Gunn are obviously the only directors who actually care about comics.

>>212982706
totally. A far cooler and more appealing concept than lab developed webs

>>212982906
I CARE ABOUT COMICS!!

It truly did, RIP legend.

>>212981974
>THE CHARACTER IS NOT SMART BECAUSE HE ISN'T TALKING ABOUT SCIENCE IN DETAIL IN ALL OF HIS DIALOGUES
You sound autistic.

perer is smart because he wears glasses

simple as

>>212983328
peter*

but perer sounds cool too

>21 minutes ago, in comes order. Harmattan, Burton & Smith. Eight extra-large deep-dish pizzas. In eight minutes, I am defaulting on Joe's 29-minute guarantee. Then, not only am I receiving no money for these pizzas, but I will lose the customer forever to Pizza Yurt. Look, you are my only hope, all right? You have to make it in time. Peter, you're a nice guy. But you're just not dependable. This is your last chance. You have to go 42 blocks in 7 and one-half minutes, or your ass is fired.

>>212983395
Why would you have a 29 minute guarantee for a place that's 42 blocks away?

>>212981608
Nolan's Batman remains the only capeshit to actually receive praise by real directors

>>212981974
In Spider-Man 3 he talks about acoustic diffusion to make MJ feel better about her performance. It's cute kino.

>>212983395
iiifff iii fliiipp thhee piizzzasss mmrrr azzizzz wwilll ffliipp oouttt....

>>212983902
so he lied to mj?

>>212983956
Nah, I think he was being genuine, but the performance obviously wasn't that good cause she gets fired.

>>212983516
He's not very good at math. it's why his cousin is working at google and he runs a failing pizza shop.

>>212979278 (OP)
Yes. You ended the thread before it had a chance to start.

Spider-Man 3, like Batman Forever, aged like a fine wine.

>>212979278 (OP)
defend this scene
https://youtu.be/Ux_hhL3sG9Q?si=CkZGy6sotnx_6eQJ

>>212984240
i like the part where flint marko aka sandman falls into the sand pit and the scientists were all like, its just a bird dont worry about it

>>212984282
Fantastic.

>>212982775
If by fanfiction you mean the logical expectation based on how their powers work then sure, it's fanfiction. Nothing about Mystique's powers would let sentinels copy the powers of other mutants, because that's Rogue's fucking power! You have to be delusional to think they started out with the idea of them getting the ability to copy powers because of Mystique when Rogue and her power was intrinsic to the story from the very first movie.

>>212983193
No, talking about shit is what Raimi had the characters do when they just kept reminding each other about what a clever boy Peter is. What you're meant to do in movies is show the character is intelligent by having him do something smarter than unplugging a computer.

>>212984517
bro, in the comics, peter hardly does ANYTHING other than play spiderman and beat up bad guys

>>212984517
We get it you heard show don’t tell once and think you can never ever tell under any circumstances

>>212984517
this is the extent of peter's genius in display in the comics

wild stuff

see how quick they transition into peter becoming spiderman

its literally the NEXT panel

>>212984559
>>212984647
>basing your knowledge of a comic character on a few panels you found online
>pretending like he hasn't built dozens of gadgets and webshooter improvements to deal with enemies over the years
Why are you even pretending like you've read Spider-Man comics, man? This is just silly.

>>212984702
has peter ever built a hover craft in the comics

>>212984755
Fuck off Osborn, you didn't invent your hover craft either.

>>212984326
he just stands there and says a bunch of obvious shit and then goes "oh no the arms are telling me to be evil. okay I'm evil now"

>>212984282
>the inhibitor chip!
>quickly turns around to show how he's fondling the burnt chip on his neck and then turns around just as fast again
That's some good unintentional comedy right there.

Will Man-Spider ever get a movie or game adaptation? He was the best part of TAS.

>>212984822
eat pumpkin bombs!

>>212985000
What does a glider even have to do with goblins or pumpkins? Work on your theme you kooky fuck!

i liked the spawn movie too

>>212985087
dude, you expect him to run around on his two feet while fighting spiderman?

come on now

>>212985117
That's what goblins do! There's no need to be a goblin that randomly chucks exploding pumpkins around while standing on a bat-looking thing, just be a fucking witch on a broom or some shit!

>>212984949
It was intentional

>>212984240
Based, both unironically the best Spider-Man and Batman movie respectively

>>212985301
Well then Raimi's a fucking retard for chucking in that piece of comedy in a scene that's otherwise handled completely seriously from start to finish.

>>212985346
Or a genius

>>212985384
Genius like Whedon.

>>212985312
spiderman never had a spidey credit card

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnallHWgupY

1:30 mark

>>212979278 (OP)
>it peaked
it sure did

>>212985438
Why does she have Buffy vampire bone structure

>>212985438
>Yes, Kirsten, it is ESSENTIAL that you go braless in this scene. We don't want you to catch a cold with a soaked bra, do we?
>My genius says that bras wouldn't be faithful to comics
>In issue #557, MJ goes braless, it's canon
>Colder water guyyyyyyyyyys
We don't deserve you, Sam Raimi.

>>212985727
I don't think Raimi ever made up excuses like that. He'd just go "it's sexier this way, and I need it to be sexy"

>>212979278 (OP)
Absolutely. The films of raimi were real blockbusters, not the cheap garbage you see these days.
Dafoe was perfect as the green goblin
tobey as peter is iconic to this day