Why did the edit Anakin in (Hayden Christensen), but not Obi Wan (Ewan McGregor)?

Why does anakin get to be young but Obi Wan gets to be old?

>>212985092 (OP)
Because his younger look was the last thing Anakin was as a Jedi before he became Vader

>>212985092 (OP)
>Anakin's spirit was restored to who he was when he was whole as a Jedi
>Obi-Wan remained uncorrupted and died good, so there's nothing to be restored
why do these pretty intuitive, age old concepts need to be spelled out to you when 10-year olds get it right away?

>>212985481
makes zero sense
but then it is star wars a movie for kids

>>212985692
>makes zero sense
were you tested?

>>212985092 (OP)
Because George is a tard
Yeah, that's right. I said it

>>212985481
he was redeemed when he died as darth vader though

>>212985796
he was also a rotting corpse when he died as darth vader. hence why when obi wan and yoda helped his spirit join the force, he retained the appearance of who he once was before he fell

and this was also true in the original version. except with the prequels, we now know how anakin looked like as a Jedi and so the shot was changed for continuity purposes

>>212985092 (OP)
Because Lucas is a retard

>>212985092 (OP)
It should've been James Earl Jones.

>>212985092 (OP)
They're fucking ghosts. Why would they be any age?
It made sense they would look like the old guys because they were appearing to Luke and that's how he would recognize them. Making JUST ONE young (and a stranger) looks conspicuous and highlights how absurd the whole thing is.

>>212986588
>Making JUST ONE young (and a stranger) looks conspicuous and highlights how absurd the whole thing is.
LMAO the only thing absurd here is the handful of grown men who pretend that there's something weird about the most common visual trope/depiction of spiritual redemption in a fantasy story
anakin never was a whole old guy. he was once a jedi. that's what luke is fighting for, to get him back to who he once was. and that's how he appears in the end. as who he once was

but go ahead, keep seething and feign ignorance about ancient and basic visual ideas that even children can understand. it's amusing

>>212985481
Anakin was never good.

>>212986814
And how is Luke supposed to know who the teenager standing there is? Wouldn't it make more sense to appear as the guy he just saw save his ass?

>>212985481
Except you're just talking out of your ass

>>212987237
Lucas just wanted to shove his new revisions in as much as he could, especially because of the hate Hayden was getting at the time that made Lucas all butthurt.
And people here will defend it like they're literature professors or something. "Dees are Ancient tropes n shit"

>>212987237
that's meant to be anakin as he was as a jedi. imagine watching the movie and pretending it's meant to be something else LMAO

>>212987312
You know, there are better ways to admit you don't have the brainpower to understand children's stories

>>212985092 (OP)
Can force ghosts take on whatever appearance they choose?

>>212987529
stop defend shit.
Nobody had a problem back in the 80s when the scene was in it's original version. Nobody stopped and said "WAIT! This doesn't make sense! Shouldn't Anakin be young because it's before his turn to the Darkside, (even though its supposed to show he's been redeemed which CAN still be AFTER the whole thing)"
Because despite your bullshit, people DID understand the visual cues of what the shot represented. People didn't have a problem until AFTER Lucas meddled because the age difference threw off the symmetry of the three guys standing there and raised all kinds of questions.

so shove your storytelling expertise up your ass because you don't know what your talking about and are just a coping cocksucker

>>212987620
LUCAS had a problem with it. That's all that matters. He is the creative genius, not you.

>>212987757
geesh anon, slow down. you're gonna choke, you suck his cock that hard.

>>212987620
>stop defend shit.
stop lying and making up problems where there are none

>>212987143
yeah, luke "use your feelings" skywalker can't possibly know the identity of the force spirit he sees redeemed next to obi wan and yoda, specially after what he had just went through.

and of course it makes more sense for a burned, maimed corpse to appear instead of how his father was as a jedi

you people dont even realize how stupid you sound and the nonsense you advocate LMAO

>>212987757
it's useless. you're appealing to a logical principle which is a foreign concept to these low IQ basement dwellers who never created anything in their lives

>>212985092 (OP)
Why do you guys argue about Star Wars every single day? You already know the answers to these stupid questions you post.

>>212987143
You make a good point. Imagine if the prequels hadn't released and there was some young kid standing next to Yoda. Neither Luke or the movie theater audience would have any idea what that guy is supposed to be.

i am a zoomer so i only ever saw episode 4 with this edit. when i was a kid i didnt know the movie had been edited to add a bunch of stupid stuff like this, so i genuinely thought they cast a guy in the 70s to play young anakin, and i said "wow that guy looks just like anakin in the new movie"

>>212988953
starwars fans are mentally afflicted by spiders in the brain that take control of the brain to argue about starwars. OT is superior to PT which is superior to ST.

>>212985092 (OP)
Because people actually remembered what Alec Guinness looked like. No one remembered what the actor chosen to play Anakin's non Darth Vader self looked like

>>212988987
>Imagine if the prequels hadn't released
but they were. it's why many of the changes were made

>>212985092 (OP)
Great question — this touches on one of the most debated changes George Lucas made to the Star Wars original trilogy in the 2004 DVD release.

In Return of the Jedi, when Anakin Skywalker appears as a Force ghost at the end, George Lucas replaced the original actor (Sebastian Shaw, who portrayed the redeemed Anakin) with a younger Hayden Christensen, who played Anakin in the prequels. However, Obi-Wan’s ghost (played by Sir Alec Guinness) was left unchanged, even though Ewan McGregor played him in the prequels.

So why did Anakin appear young, but Obi-Wan stayed old?
George Lucas's Explanation (Anakin):

Lucas explained that Anakin’s ghost appears young because that’s the last time he was truly “Anakin Skywalker” — before he became Darth Vader. According to Lucas, Anakin metaphorically "died" when he turned to the dark side, so the Force spirit reflects his younger, uncorrupted self.

Why Obi-Wan (and Yoda) Stay Old:

Obi-Wan and Yoda both died as Jedi, without falling to the dark side. So their Force ghosts appear as they were when they died — older, wiser, and still connected to the light side of the Force. There's no narrative reason to revert them to younger versions.

Criticism and Controversy:
Many fans criticize this logic because:

It’s inconsistent — Why not apply the same “young ghost” logic to Obi-Wan?
It disrespects Sebastian Shaw — He portrayed both the dying Vader and the original Force ghost.
It confuses new viewers — They might not recognize the young Anakin ghost as the same person.
In Summary:
Anakin gets to be young because Lucas wanted to show him before he turned evil. Obi-Wan stays old because he remained good until death. Whether that makes sense or feels fair is still debated — and probably always will be.

>>212989152
in this case it's more of a revision for consistency than a change, but your point stands

>>212989096
ST>PT

>>212989171
thanks ChudGPT

>>212989226
Haha, fair enough — I'll take that with a smile. If you've got more Star Wars questions (or insults cloaked in good humor), I'm always here for it. May the Force roast me as needed. :smile:

>>212989181
sure thing, coomsumer

>>212989180
no it doesn't. If you have to rejigger previous works because your new ones don't fit properly, you're a poor writer

>>212989721
Walk into any bar and say that you like the prequels. You'll be laughed out of the place. If you say you like the sequels they will cheer you as a hero. Face it, the prequels are only liked by nerd loners like Rick Worley.

>>212989823
Nobody (who's opinion matters) likes the sequels.

>>212989784
Imagine Star Wars as one giant painting. Any new stroke you make will cause ripple effects and changes to what was done earlier.

>>212988769
No, it makes more sense for how it originally appeared. Which your boyfriend didn't have a problem with until he got all salty about the reception his prequels were getting and decided to get spiteful.

>>212988656
what does that even mean? did you just have nothing to argue back?

>>212989893
No, I'm gonna imagine it was what it is, a series of films. Some of which people already saw long ago and had no issue with, but you need to toss out and make people watch new versions so your later crap makes sense. Kinda hacky
>pretend its something totally different so I'll be right

>>212989930
We caught you in a lie and now you're reeling. Your jealousy of Lucas is on full display. You will never make something as culturally impactful as Star Wars and now you have to live with that fact. We all pity you.

>>212989098
>No one remembered what the actor chosen to play Anakin's non Darth Vader self looked like
yes, they saw him 10 whole minutes before, which is an eternity for a star wars retard

>>212990042
what lie?

i like how murdering children because satan told him to wasn't part of the story until 2003.

>>212990183
There were children on Alderaan, which was part of the story in 1977.

>>212990183
one thing always stupid about the prequels was that before them, it was implied that he really did just give into his darker urges, power, greed, whatever you want. He was seduced by the dark side.

The prequels bent over backwards to make it look like he was an innocent victim of circumstances. They killed his mother, he wanted to save Padme, the council kept dicking him around, Sideous was misleading him. It was everyone's fault but his, so he felt like a tragic villian

Then they had him wholesale murder a bunch of kids.

>>212990303
tarkin did that

>>212990303
nope, that was the gay planet.

>>212985092 (OP)
Older people can make questionable decisions just like younger people. That's why they want presidents to be 35 at the youngest, partly anyway.

>>212985481
But Anakin died good too

>>212985976
Looking gross is irrelevant to a ghost. Plus, vanity is a path to the dark side

>>212986814
>that's what luke is fighting for
Luke fought his dad to make him look young again? Wow, I never realized that

>>212989171
How did Anakin's ghost recognize Obi Wan's ghost if everything after his fall had been deleted from his soul?

>>212989096
>Luke. No one cared who I was until I put on the mask
>NOOOOO, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!

It's funny how zoomers and gen alpha have no fucking idea who it is when Hayden Anakin shows up

>>212990940
I will NEVER show my children these botched versions. They will only see the Despecialized Editions.

>>212990940
Zoomers and GenAlpha like the prequels more than the OT

>>212992462
Based fellow Despecialized OT purist.

>>212992462
That's what you think.
Wait til Disney crawls into computer and removes every copy you have.

EU keeps Luke Skywalker intact, he doesn't give up and die of heart failure (or whatever the Doomec Timeline his cause of death was, it's still not clear)

>>212990447
Yes, in a disfigured, burned and maimed body.

>>212990517
>Looking gross is irrelevant to a ghost
so you are also ignorant about basic storytelling. gotcha

>>212992462
don't worry, they'll laugh at your attachment to a glorified fanedit

>>212989901
>No, it makes more sense for how it originally appeared
he always appeared as he once was as a jedi

it's no different from the emperor in empire. both changes were made to be in continuity across all the movies

>>212989901
How do you feel about this change? It's literally no different.

>>212985481
This shit ought to clue in the people that listen to revisionist zoomers that Lucas is fallible and the people who white knight his every mistake are morons.