>the fantastic four: first steps is out
>no threads discuss it
>no hype for RDJ Dr. Doom post credits scene
It's fucking OVER. THIS WILL FLOP HARD AND SO WILL AVENGERS DOOMSDAY AND SECRET WARS.

MSHEU IS DEAD! BURY IT.

DC WON BABY! SUPERMAN WON JULY! JAMES GUNN WON! FEIGE BTFO!

>>213012053 (OP)
It's over

why is doom a lolicon?

>>213012053 (OP)
I have so many questions for this scene:
>How did Doom get inside Baxter Building?
>Does Sue know Doom or Reed? Is he from their universe?
>Why is he alone with the F4 kid? 0-0
>WHY DIDN'T THEY SHOW HIS FACE
>Did no one notice Doom coming inside what should be a secured home?

>>213012226
>Because he's Dr Doom
>Probably not if leaks are right
>He wants Franklin's powers for evil and is trying to buddy up to him
>So they don't have to pay RDJ yet
>Because he's Dr Doom

Just saw it, good movie (better than Sup).
>The overall tone is more serious, feels like a pre-GoG Marvel flick
>top tier aesthetic
>space scenes were great
>good first portrayal of Galactus
>literally no reason for Surfer to be Shalla-Bal instead of Norrin Radd, we don't even see him in her flashback and she is teleported with Galactus (so she will certainly be the Silver Surfer of Earth-616 too, lol)
>Absolutely ZERO creativity in the way they used Reed's power (bro, you have One Piece, there is no excuse to not make cool things with him)
>Sue push Galactus in a portal and die for using too much force push, she is saved by her son and his Power Cosmic
>They actually save their planet and there is no direct link to them coming to Earth-616 in the movie
>post credit scene is just Doom talking to the little kid like a fucking creep

>>213012226
>>Why is he alone with the F4 kid? 0-0
sue was taking a book for franklin to read n when she returned that happened

>>213012053 (OP)
I'm sorry ma'am, but you posted in the wrong board. For shill threads you post here >>>/trash/
Hope I helped clear things up

>>213012307
No

>>213012226
There was a sound when Sue was searching a different book, seems like he opened a portal to enter or something like that

>>213012287
How does Doom sound? RDJ voice or not?

>>213012053 (OP)
Is his face and mask visible in the scene or did RDJ just not show up to work and you look at some stuntnig’s back for the entire scene?

>>213012330
He said nothing, you can't hear him talk to the kid

>they made Doom into James Gunn
Amazing

>>213012182
Acktually it's shotacon.

>>213012287
>literally no reason for Surfer to be Shalla-Bal instead of Norrin Radd, we don't even see him in her flashback and she is teleported with Galactus (so she will certainly be the Silver Surfer of Earth-616 too, lol)
Goddamnit. What’s wrong with Norrin?

>>213012337
Just the mask, you don't see his face
>>213012391
He's a white (silver) male

>>213012053 (OP)
Capeshit is dead to everyone with an IQ over 90

>>213012053 (OP)
>be paid $100 million to play Dr. Doom
>post credits scene confirmed to be filmed by Russo brothers
>can't even bother to film a 5 second cameo to tease your villain
Absolute state of this hack

>>213012287
>better than Sup
I call bullshit

Superman is the best cape film in 10 years

>>213012391
There this faggot youtube called Th3Birdman and he does these takedowns on The Critical Drinker. He's broadly correct but then goes too far into seething dishonest leftist faggot territory
>Um ACTUALLY if you want Norrin in FS you're actually ANTI-NORRIN!! Cause obviously chud Shalla will die and Norrin will be main SS in MCU. You HATE NORRIN!!
What absolute fucking faggotry

>>213012337
The post credit scene is basically this:
>Sue is coming back to her kid with a book in her hand, she can feels that something is weird
>She start to use some power with her other hand
>Kid is not on the couch anymore, he is standing up but something is hiding Sue's view, so she can't see what is behind it
>next plan, you can see the greend hood, dezoom to him with his mask in the hand in front of the kid like OP
>end "The 4F will be back in Doomsday"
2nd post credit scene is just a 4F cartoon scene

>Post-credit scene wasn’t RDJ in a cave hammering an anvil and creating a Doom mask instead of the Iron Man one

It was literally so fucking easy to score an ultra hype moment to build anticipation for Doomsday and they still missed it somehow. Nobody fucking cares about some random stuntman in the cloak kek, what a wet fart of a tease.

>>213012433
You have some DCU projects to work on, Gunn

>>213012053 (OP)
How do they defeat Galactus since they don’t obviously give him Franklin to go away

>black leather gloves
lol so he doesn't have the full blown suit of armor. Doom's look is both iconic and comically easy to get right yet we're going his look ruined three times in a row

>>213012484
They send him and Silver to another universe which is kinda a bad move because he will just eat that universe instead but it's not theirs so they don't care. So much for heroes.

>>213012512
That doesn't even make sense, Galactus exists in every universe. He's a constant, you can't just get rid of fucking Galactus it doesn't work that way.

>>213012484
Plan is to bait him with Franklin, use a teleportation device to send Galactus far away from earth.
Galactus take the kid, Sue goes GIVE MY KID BACK, force push him into the portal, but he is coming back, so Torch decide to sacrifice himself to push him further, but female Silver Surfer push Torch away and push Galactus in the portal

>>213012545
He doesn't exist according to the film, he says "across all universe there is and will only ever be one Galactus". That's why he needs Franklin, his powers are the key for him to endless worlds to eat.

>>213012568
That's retarded

>>213012567
Isn't it cause she thirsts for Johnny's dick even though in this iteration he looks like a pedophile serial killer what with the uncanny whiteface makeup? I like Quinn well enough but the thirst he provoked after Stranger Things was insane given what he looks like

>>213012577
But it's true

>>213012053 (OP)
>Its obvious Superjew shill

How much have WB spend on shill campaign?

>>213012659
>superman shill
There is no proof of such thing

>>213012460
lol that's actually a great idea

>>213012460
>RDJ in a cave hammering an anvil and creating a Doom mask instead of the Iron Man one
My theory is that they will have him be a version of Tony in Avengers 1 who never made it back to Earth and almost died in space before some aliens picked him up, suffering from memory loss and extreme psychosis from the ordeal.

>>213012581
Not really, the scene before she came back was basically Johnny saying to her that she turned into Silver Surfer to save her own world.
So she was a hypocrite for saying to them that they should just accept their death and do nothing, that because of her a lot of planets and people died, so she run away while screaming (of course they needed a screaming scene with Julia Garner, lol).
Her action is more centered around the idea of redemption than actually saving Johnny.

>>213012712
Lame

>>213012287
>/tv/ defending marvelslop
Man, this board just keeps getting better

>>213012838
You mean worse?

>>213012287
the state of snynderjeets lmao

Was there an NTR scene with Namor?

>>213012287
I figured since they were going with Shalla that there would be a romance with johnny but i guess not?

>>213012053 (OP)
I decided to watch Thunderbolts last night. Now I can't refund my time even when watching it for free. I even browsed on my phone while watching that crap. I'm completely done with Disney. I hope they enjoy the Fantastic Flop, I won't even watch it.

>>213012904
Superman shill

>>213012053 (OP)
marvel woke movie #2342234 flopped??? who would have guessed!

>>213012838
>defending
I literally pointed out different bad things about it like how they used Reed's power, lol
Sorry if I'm not a grifter, I usually destroy anything released by Marvel, but this one is a good Marvel movie.
I don't even want to use the "compared to all the recent Marvel shit" argument since it's a really fucking easy thing to do.
Anyway, compared to Sup which is a bland and mediocre movie, I will remember some scenes of this one.

>>213012957
Nice job shill. Disney will send you money soon.

>>213012964
Keep crying, Gunnbot

>>213012975
Cope disneyshill. Doomsday will bomb

>>213012053 (OP)
NOOOOOOO

>>213012053 (OP)
They might have had some hype if they hadn't blurted out to the whole world that RDJ was going to be back as Doom well over a year before the film was released.

Can you imagine how the internet would have blown up if the first audiences knew about that was him showing up in the post credits?

Instead its like "Oh yeah, I forgot he was going to be Doom now... I wonder if I have time to watch Superman again."

>>213012053 (OP)
I'll be more entertained watching Gary from Nerdrotic tear it apart, so I won't need to watch it.

>>213012460
>Post-credit scene wasn’t RDJ in a cave hammering an anvil and creating a Doom mask instead of the Iron Man one
hire this man

>>213012460
>RDJ in a cave hammering an anvil and creating a Doom mask instead of the Iron Man one
you just know this won't happen cause the cuck writers can't fathom this level of kino

>>213012460
Holy kino

>>213012460
KINOOOOOO

>>213013165
Riri Williams will just sneak in while he's not looking and steal it.

>>213013125
True

>>213013048
No shit, who said it won't? Lmao

Just read the plot. Nothing happens. 2005 still kino

how is it out it's wednesday my dude

>>213012053 (OP)
you're wasting your life anon, capeshit is not important, this movie making $100m or $1b doesn't impact you in any way.

Total DC Victory

>>213013429
That's true but consider the following:

>>213013429
>capeshit is not important
>billion dollar industry

k.

>>213013399
Lmao retard

This isn't how you aura farm.

>>213013662
>aura farm
which faggot eceleb invented this new zoomerspeak this time?

>>213013662
This is how you aura sow so you can aura reap what you've aura sowed and that's how you succesfully aura farm

>>213013729
Which brand of aura tractors and aura harversters are the best? JohnDeere? Fendt?

>>213012460
>member this scene? member this scene?
classic reddit scene right there. zero creativity and 100% nostalgiabait.

>>213013843
Cope dcuck

>>213012053 (OP)
FOR GODS SAKE DOES ANYONE HAVE A LINK????

>>213013899
there you go https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda/images/2/2a/Link_Hyrule_Warriors.png/revision/latest?cb=20140620205907

>>213013963
Link

>>213012287

>Bro

Kill yourself nigger

>>213012704
Allegedly Doom is alt-Earth Tony's twin brother who got adopted by Latverians (which is basically what Iron Man 2020's origin was)

>>213012419
Capeshit was never good to anyone with an IQ above 110

>>213014378
No

>>213012391
maybe they thought he would look to similar to the previous one we had and cause some confusion

>>213012053 (OP)
It would have been nice if we had Avengers, FF, and X-Men in the same universe from the jump. We could have had an Onslaught movie by now.

>>213014856
isn't that what doomsday is gearing towards? a reset that will finally bring everyone together?

Fuck off Gunn/Supershill. All Fantastic Four has to do is break Superman's box office legs which it will do now and stop it from breaking even. Superman is a flop movie that won't make it to 550-600 million. Jurassic World rebirth won July as Capeshit slowly dies.

>>213014877
I will be too old for that

is this CP?

>>213012053 (OP)
Here's the scene
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1753280061554097.mp4

>>213015215
what a nothingburger. Why cast RDJ if you won't pay him for this scene (no face, no dialogue)

>>213015215
Lol

Lame

>>213012226
>>213012285
>>213012287
totally organic posts

>>213015215
Here's my reaction to this as someone who doesn't know anything
>Ummmm okay?

Should've been a full RDJ reveal, clearly couldn't afford it

>>213015215
why the hell is this so empty? wtf

>>213015547
Most people not giving a shit about after credit

>Doom is just gonna be some random dude nobody knows.
Shits gonna suck. Lots of characters knew who Thanos was and that added a lot to the movie and Doom will be a new guy no character has ever heard of.

>>213015394
>hire rdj.
>he demands 20% movie budget for 10seconds cameo

>>213015637
They're trying to do secret wars without the decades of reed/doom interactions, it's gonna be a disaster

>Susan goes back to the room
>"Long time no see Susan"
>Doom is holding Franklin
>Begins laughing and escapes witha green portal
would've been 10x more exciting

>>213015717
very cartoon villain lmao, but better than the nothingburger scene we got

>>213012545
Of course you can, that's been done in the comics.

>>213015695
They're also trying to do a "Time Runs Out" where Doom is the legitimate villain and not an anti-hero trying to prevent the death of the multiverse

>>213015637
>Doom is just gonna be some random dude nobody knows.
There is no way they do not abuse the Iron Man connection.

>>213015637
They don't exactly have the time to setup Doom.

>>213015695
>>213015748
>>213015637
I don't actively read comics, but Doom seems like a cool character, what should I read if I wanted to get an actual real Doom rather than Iron-Doom?

>>213015751
They have said that Tony doing the snap in Endgame is directly related to what's going on with Doom, so there's some kind of connection. He is definitely a Tony variant, there's just no good way to do that without destroying Doom's character.

>>213015785
Triumph and Torment is peak Doom

>>213015764
>they don't have the time
wtf are you talking about, they are the ones writing and making those movies. They just failed to introduce him completely

>>213012053 (OP)
Last MCU I saw at the cine was Ant-Man and the Wasp. That was 7 years ago.

>>213012053 (OP)

I am going to a theater playing Fantastic Four ONLY to see the trailer for Avatar: Fire And Ash and then leave.

>>213015814
mine was Endgame

Making Doom a Tony variant is gay as fuck. Also recasting the role of Doom post secret wars is gay too if they keep this iteration of F4 foing forward even though they intend to recast Iron Man and Steve Rogers Cap.

>>213012053 (OP)
>first appearance and his mask is already off
kek and people still cope that he wont have a nanoliquid mask that melts every every minute in his movie

>>213015812
The big bad was supposed to that nig. But since he chimped out they had to scramble. They just didn't have the time to properly set him up

>>213015835

Based. Endgame was the rightful end of Marvel capeshit.

>>213015845
Does it really matter? Doom always wears a mask anyways

>>213015835
I still haven't seen Endgame I never got the fuss.

>>213015547
Superman won xddd

>>213015872
desu it should have ended in defeat with Infinity Wars. The whole shtick of getting almost everyone because because muh MCU was just meh

>>213013662

Aura farm? Is that some new slang you zoomtards are using these days?

>>213015853
they never show his face.....

>>213015637
You're right, but the way they're playing with it is that Doom looking like Iron Man will make all the heroes trust him and give him the benefit of the doubt, not knowing how terrible he really is.

>>213012053 (OP)
Will this film flopping be what finally convinces Mahvel fans normal people don't give a shit about the Fantastic Bore?

at least is not a nano mask but the fact that he took his mask off because RDJ is a fucking egomaniac tells me this is gonna be shit

>>213015897
>new

it's years old already grandpa

>doom will wear the mask for 10 seconds in doomsday
Screencap this

>>213015907
Are they retarded? They know how the multiverse works, and that they're completely different people

>>213015918
he took his mask off so you can see it in his hand and know it's doom. RDJ didn't film this scene and probably won't film more than a scene or two for Doomsday other than adr

>>213015764
Kang should have been the villain here

>>213015785
Books of Doom
>Doom's origin story
Triumph and Torment
>Doom and Doctor Strange go battle The Devil for his mother's soul
Secret Wars (2015)
>kinoest doom vs reed sttory of all time

>>213015968
>100 million dollars

>>213015945
I think you've got it totally backwards, he will have the mask on 99% of the time so RDJ barely has to come in for filming

>>213012433
>t. Gunnkek

>>213015996
Nah they are going to play with "whaaaa--- it's Tony Stark WHAT" so they need his face

>>213015994
Consider it marketing costs

>>213015957
>Are they retarded?
Yes.

>>213015215
>origin of the species
So fucking cringe. Jesus christ. Fucking hell.

>>213016026
They need that for like 2 scenes then it doesn't matter anymore

>>213015918
it's going to be shit for plenty of reasons, not just rdj not wearing a mask, like michael waldron joining the writing team, despite already being shooting for weeks without a finished script shows how big of a mess it's going to be

>>213016065
I don't even get the joke. That he's really smart? that he likes biology?

>>213016077
The joke is the robot doesn't understand what books are appropriate for children

>>213012053 (OP)
Go woke. Go broke.

Reed Richards is white and not hispanic in any way.

Disney is a racist company.

>>213016077
It's probably what the reddit type considers the most intelligent and enlightened book ever. 99% chance they haven't actually read it.

They should've just made RDJ play Victor Von Doom straight up. No Tony variant bullshit, no "he looks like tony stark" shenanigans, RDJ is just playing a completely new character because he's actually a good actor and since his name is big in the MCU people will watch out of curiosity.

>>213016070
I bet they are going to have heroes pull their punches because they look at his face like "I can't" a bunch
slop

>>213016065
>>213016101
Why does that book offend you?

>>213016092
reed richards isn't real anon....

Does Sue show her feet?

>>213016077
it's a "supersmart kid" gag, yes

>>213016103
The Russo brothers did say he plays Victor Von Doom but they will use the idea of him looking like Tony for the plot.

>>213016132
He is real. He is a real comic book character in a story I used to enjoy.

Also, you’re on an entertainment board complaining about realism? Get a grip.

>>213015906
He has no reason to take off his mask here, it's a preview for what is to come

>>213016137
asking the real questions here

>>213016130
It doesn't. Do you have autism? On the spectrum?

>>213016157
Let me tell you about the multiverse anon. The Reed Richards you enjoyed was a different version than this one. This one has Latin DN, get over it.

Also you're the one bringing up race realism for a kids film ffs

>>213016164
it's a way to show the audience the Doom mask without having to pay RDJ to be in the scene, that's all.

>>213016192
What's the problem then?

>>213016195
As if people could tell if it's RDJ or not behind the mask and the hood

>>213016201
I'm sorry about your condition, kid. Shouldn't you be back on r/atheism?

>>213016233
>anyone who doesn't understand my need to randomly sperg out about reddit must be autistic

>>213016155
There's no way they can do this without making every single character look like a completely cock-sucking retard and make the whole movie watching experience agonizing.

>>213012053 (OP)
>no threads discuss it

oh like you're not doing right now?

>>213016230
you bet your ass there'd be a billion social media posts comparing the eyes and every pixel of visible skin to discuss whether it's him or not
this sidesteps that and saves money, who cares

>>213016247
without? the MCU was already like that from the outset.

>>213016230
they definitely need body doubles so he isn't such a manlet in certain shots

>DC just released a good movie that actually looks like it was made by professionals
>marvel still thinks people will ´want their multiverse cameo slop

>>213016300
they have been shooting around his shortness from the beginning, no doubles needed

>>213015215
this scene once again shows nothing about what's to come, supposedly it was planned at some point for rdj to show up for this cameo and show him taking franklin with him, this being the direct motivation for the F4 to start going after doom, then, the ship the thunderbolts spot in their post credits scene would be either the F4 team searching for doom in the mcu, or doom and franklin arriving there with a stolen spaceship.
I guess they got cold feet last minute, knowing F4 won't be successful and they don't want to waste an actual relevant scene for doomsday, so they just cut it before doom shows his face, which means, they'll have to take extra minutes from doomsday to set whatever plan doom has for franklin, on top of dealing with its gargantuan cast and several subplots.

>>213016256
>there'd be a billion social media posts
Everyone who cares enough to check social media for smth like this would already know that the guy in the actual post credits scene isn't RDJ. No one cared who played thanos in his first cameo appearance at the end of the avengers.
>this sidesteps that and saves money, who cares
It's stupid, why wear a mask if you're going to take it off in front of a stranger in your first appearance

Doesn't really matter what they do with this Doom, whenever they do the reset they'll just start over anyway

>>213016195
They already paid him tard, and it was the GDP of a small country. They'll be making full use of him

>>213016343
>It's stupid, why wear a mask if you're going to take it off in front of a stranger in your first appearance
because "don't scare the child with the mask, build trust by taking it off". That's all that is

>>213016359
It'll be a body double 90% of the time with adr. Seriously, screencap this. You should take that post credits slop as a preview of what you're in for.

>>213016359
citation needed

>>213016194
Let me tell you about the fact that I don't have to watch Reed Spicards and you can't make me.

>DCucks already coping about Doomsday
Kek

>>213015215

>>213012460
Not to ball lick this anon more but seriously Kevin Fiege should be fired, Old Fiege would have thought of that.

So what are Franklin's powers that make both Galactus and Doom interested in him?

>>213016721
In the comics he's McGuffin level ridiculous OP. He can reshape reality at will and create new universes just by thinking about it.

>>213016721
Reality warper

>>213016721
reality warping

>>213012341
Fucking cheapos lol, you're already paying him a hundred million fucking dollars pay him 1 mil more to stop by his home and record a couple voice lines
If the way Marvel makes movies wasn't so schizophrenic they could have probably recorded lines for this scene right after the meeting with him about doing the role.

>>213016721
He’s similar to Owen Reece the Molecule Man. He can alter reality.

>>213016756
>>213016771
>>213016774
so Doom probably wants him to merge the verses/ create a single one as to not destroy them all bc of the incursion nonsense? Is that the "twist"?

>>213016756
oh, another one of those

>>213016756
>>213016771
>>213016774
>>213016795
Unfortunately not even a reality warper can change the current state of the MCU

>>213015215
Dem legs

>>213016797
Basically yes. He's just the tool to have more multiverse shenanigans...although they already had wanda and Dr strange for that

>>213016810
Kek, apparently the super villain DEI is too powerful.

>>213016721
Beyond omega level mutant. A reality warper. He can just think it and suddenly the world doesn't exist. He has to wear a special helmet at all time in the comic to suppress his power.

>>213016811
legbros gonna be eating good this film

>>213016797
Hard to say. Doom's endgame isn't really clear because the multiverse shit has been a fucking mess and they had to completely change course with the villain. All we know is Doomsday will end with Doom attacking Loki in the TVA to take over the multiverse, probably to merge everything into his version of Battleworld.

>>213015814
I have never seen MCU at the cine

>>213016845
comics are really silly, huh

>>213015215
>Quatre ans plus tard

>>213016866
Battleworld eh

So that's how they'll get Venom into the MCU

>>213016837
and America Chavez. They'll stop the multiverse shit though with Secret Wars as I understand it
>>213016866
yeah. Idk sounds kinda lame, cause the point of Battleworld was for him to be the ruler right? Is Doomsday/Secret Wars another two-parter which has Doom win, practically?

How is Doom stealing Reed's family in Secret Wars supposed to make any sense if they don't have decades of shared history?

>>213016885
Tends to happen when you've been pumping out weekly/monthly content for almost a century

>>213016902
>character motivation
>mattering in the MCU
did you miss how Thanos wanted to kill half the universe because of "resources"?

>>213016902
But they do? In the movie FF has been around for 4 years and when they make a speech at the UN only the representative from Latveria doesn't come to support, implying Doom exists in their world and they've been fighting since.

>>213016902
They just won't have him care about the family, he'll just be power hungry

>>213016945
But that's a different Doom. TonyDoom has no connection to them

>>213016945
Do we actually see Latveria mentioned in the film?

>>213016976
yh an empty seat with a latveria tag on the table

>>213016945
But we don't have insight into that.
We haven't seen it. That's like kick-starting a DCEU and having Batman be a veteran Batman who's been disillusioned.
No one cares because we didn't get to see the process.

>>213016945
There's not a single reference to Doom and any history he has with Reed in the movie other than that Latveria easter egg

>>213016945
>>213017001
real?

>>213016974
Tonydoomis from the FF First Steps world. MCU doesn't have Fantastic Four.

>>213017012
Yes. I was expecting more and at least a refrence to Victor Werner von Doom but nothing.

>>213017020
He's not. He's from another universe and somehow gets into the First Steps world.

well that's us speculating. He's neer refrenced at all in the film so it's possible he's from their universe but is not realted to the FF in anyway

>>213017025
It's so weird that they don't use this movie to set up their major MCU villain at all

>>213013843
Bro is seriously upset he didn't think of it first

>>213016902
This is my complaint as well. It makes no sense he attacks them

>>213015215
quatre ans plus tard

>>213016901
>the point of Battleworld was for him to be the ruler right?
He was the ruler, but the idea was also that the Beyonders destroyed most of the multiverse, but Doom killed them, stole their powers, and managed to save a bunch of stuff and people from destruction to cobble together into a little world that he rules. He's a lot more morally gray and not really the villain of the story that leads up to Secret Wars since he's legitimately trying to save as much of the multiverse as possible and end the incursions.

>>213015547
finna be slaw

>>213017090
how tf are they going to cram all that into a movie lol

This movie will fail spetacularly. They will never manage to develop Doom's rivalry/jealousy of Reed in movie with 30+ main characters + X-men multiverse slop.

>>213012053 (OP)
Sadly it's not going to flop. Looks like it's going to have a huge opening. But I wouldn't be surprised if its legs are mediocre.

>>213012053 (OP)
Just came back from the theater. Yep it's kino.

>>213015930
Days
But that counts as years to zoomer ADHD brains

>>213017090
I think they're still going to have a morally grey Doom, but it's not going to be immediately apparent in Doomsday. The Dr. Strange movie that comes out between Doomsday and Secret Wars is literally called "Time Runs Out," so I think he'll be outright villainous in Doomsday, and then the Strange movie will wind things back, show more of his motivation and the issues with the incursion and set up Strange being his lieutenant/ally.

>>213017159

Whatever you say, Feige.

>>213017129
>how tf are they going to cram all that into a movie lol
They aren't, it's going to be watered-down slop that barely resembles that

>>213017155

>Sadly it's not going to flop.

It won't flop, but it WILL underperform.

gay

>>213017197
It's gotta be Doom using Franklin as some kind of tool right, to smash the verses together? What else is there left to do to close out this mess

you know what really grinds my gears?

They kill susan only to have her get rezzed moments later by Franklin. Why not just leave her dead and have her comeback when the multiverse nonsense happens?!

Have some balls marvel!

>>213017059
I think Spiderman Brand New Day will be a "new world order" type of thing where Dr Doom will be coordinating a bunch of stuff somehow but it's still pretty wonky.

>>213017279
>dies due to using their powers too hard
I hate this fucking trope btw, it almost never makes sense

>>213017155
> Sadly it's not going to flop. Looks like it's going to have a huge opening.
All it needs to do is break Superman's legs and get it to underperform. Gunnshills have been to cocky and need to be knocked down a peg along with Gunn's ego getting to big and needs to shrink a bit. If it does that it is good.

>>213017282
I doubt that, Spider-Man will probably center on him making ends meet and being street level again

>>213017328
Holland is too old to pull of the "broke highschooler/college kid"

>>213017319
>now openly cheerleading for the MCU just to cripple the new DCU
snyderjeets are really something

>disney buys fox in 2019
>just when endgame came out
>kevin "cocksucker" feige somehow thinks marvel's temu brainiac will be a more engaging big bad instead of motherfucking DOOM

>>213014877
I’ll be able to order from the Denny’s senior menu by the time it amounts to anything.

>>213012053 (OP)
Did they pay him more for that few seconds cameo than what London Superman statue cost?

>>213017343
but that's where his character is at after the last movie. Unless they timeskip, but what would be the point of just skipping over the consequences of the spell

>>213017343
>tfw no Spiderman film about Peter's life going off the rails and him ending up unemployed and single in a bedsit and addicted to surfing the dark web

>>213017365
They were saving Doom for the next saga but Jonathan Majors beating up his girlfriend forced their hand. It's amazing that a single act of domestic violence so totally derailed a multibillion megacorp like this.

>>213017303
Yes it's dumb because for it to be lethal they should be getting sick or incapacitated all the time with normal use.
It's another MacGuffin that screws up the internal logic.

>>213017388
I'm pretty sure Doomsday is resetting it all anyways so the last spiderman film doesn't really metter

>>213017398
For once I'd love to see a capeshit film where the character is a NEET who has to overcome that to become a hero. where's the representation?!

>>213017406
Yeah I'm surprised they didn't just recast the role
>>213017409
sure, but the movie will exist lol I just think they're going to focus on a more grounded story bc it's Spider-Man is all

>>213017129
best case scenario? They won't, the fact phase 6 starts with F4 makes me think this doom event really starts with this post credits scene and spiderman 4 supposedly is still coming out first, so I imagine it will have to sacrifice its individual story with hulk and punisher at some point to show doom and his plans, being spiderman 4 the real introduction to this event, and the avengers movies being direct sequels, also bringing back that rumor from the time kang was still around, that we'd have three avengers movies this time to work as a massive limited series: doomsday, secret wars and battleworld.
worst case scenario? they just reset every character and teleport them all over the place to start killing the ones that have no contract anymore, showing rdj winning at the end of doomsday, like it was with thanos in IF, and have again a time jump to move offscreen all the characters already coexisting in the battleworld for secret wars and then just come up with a convoluted and nonsensical plot for that movie to defeat him.

>>213017486
who the fuck is danny ramirez?

>>213017524
Watch Captain America Brave New World

>>213017547
I did

>>213017486
how kino it would be if Doomsday already begins in Battleworld and Spider-Man is the only one that remembers the old world because of his multiverse spell shenanigan. You could have Spdier-MAn 4 end with Doom setting uo Battleword.

>>213017466
>Yeah I'm surprised they didn't just recast the role
Not to chud it up here but they really shot themselves in the foot with the diversity casting on Kang. Not just him being black but by casting a guy with such exaggerated facial features, I think even if they re-cast him with a normal-looking black dude people were going to claim they were attempting to whiten him up and throw a shitfit. I think it was basically a no-win, and the fact that Quantumania flopped so hard was also a big indicator that Kang wasn't really working as a saga villain anyways, so they changed gears.

>>213012423
he dominated it all

>>213017582
The problem is that Kang is lame as fuck. Nigga is allergic to aura-farming/good storytelling. IT's just: "I'm a collector. I'll collect your world"

>>213017627
ya they were retarded for going with Kang. he's a shit villian

>>213017524
mexican falcon, he technically got introduced in falcon and winter soldier show, but nobody remembers that, so he got reintroduced in captain falcon earlier this year, he's an unfunny and annoying twat who got wrecked for being a retard trying to tank a missile.
given the massive cast and how unimportant he is, it's guaranteed he will appear in doomsday only briefly as the chair guy to help captain falcon

>>213017557
He's the Falcon now.

>>213017466
>Yeah I'm surprised they didn't just recast the role
Legally he was innocent until proven guilty. So Disney didn't want to axe the bad nigger prematurely, because nigger. Disney had to sit it out and it took too long.

>>213017656
He would be an easy early kill-off to raise some stakes too, absolutely nobody gives a shit about him.

>>213017656
>>213017669
thank you. I legit don't remember this dude at all from the film.

>>213017677
He's actually one of the few who will survive the Secret Wars purge.

>>213012460
That's just too kino for post-Endgame Marvel.

>>213012182
posting another verified FLOP

>>213017692
That's hilarious

>>213017692
I heard he's going to be the next Captain America. They're killing off Mackie

>>213017719
No. We will have Captain Falcon and New Captain America.

>>213017719
they really need to thin out the ranks some, there is no room for everyone to matter

>>213017719
If they kill of Mackie and pass over Bucky a second time for Cap they can go fuck themselves honestly

>>213017760
>russian agent becomes symbol of america

KINO

>>213012423
he’s not doom
it’s a ruse

>>213017755
the MCU is less likely to start killing characters off than Stranger Things. if they wanted to do that they missed the perfect chance by reverting the snap.

>>213017780
meds

>>213017805
it’s a fake out

>>213017719
>>213017752
>>213017760
They're keeping it quiet but Evans is also coming back for Doomsday, basically just as a cameo for the final fight at the TVA. The TVA people are going to pull in heroes from all different timelines to serve as a last defense of Loki. They'll probably spoil this 3 months out from release just to guarantee at least 1 bill box office, but it's literally just 1 scene, and he's not in secret wars at all.

>>213017829

>>213012423
It’d be funny if they rolled that back and bitched out. It might be a decent pump fake. Almost all of the press around RDJ as Doom has been negative and seen as desperate. They could roll with pretending RDJ is Doom until Doomsday when they reveal it’s someone else completely, but I don’t know what actor would be a shocking enough “get” who could actually play the role well. And it would literally just piss away $100 million for a bad marketing stunt.

>>213017760
I don't know what the fuck are they doing with bucky and sam, first the former was finally cured and healthy, then became a congressman for some reason, to then become one of the new avengers, had some offscreen beef with sam, who was cool with him in his own movie a few months ago and now is suing him over copyrights and not answering the calls?
where do they even go from there? if they both die, what would be the point of all that previous retardation from phases 4 and 5?

>>213017980
It seems like Marvel has competing writers or something. One faction totally believes Mackie is THE Captain America and was BRAVE and POWERFUL in his show and deserves to be king shit. While the other faction thinks he’s a sanctimonious prick and wants to write him as such. Faction B wrote Thunderbolts. That’s my only explanation.

They should've just made a Doctor Doom solo sidequel to the Fantastic Four to setup Doomsday. Would've fixed all their problems.
>can have a proper movie to introduce doom
>can show his origin to the public without having to rush it
>can develop his eternal seething with the Fantastic Four
>can setup his plans for Doomsday

>>213018143
a movie with the villian as the protagonist? That'll never work

>>213016342
Would you prefer The Leader talking about other worlds?

>>213018166
You just rip off Books of Doom. Doom kidnaps a journalist to tell him his origin story to be used as propaganda to help seal his eventual takeover of the world. The telling of it could be challenged by the journalist character in some scenes making the viewer question how much is or isn’t true about it which could be fun.

>>213017129
They're not Doom will be the villain no Bryonders most likely

>>213018250
Oh I was being sarcastic. That's a great idea anon which means they;ll never do it

>>213017627
He Who Remains was intriguing but not Kang

>>213012053 (OP)
>Already taking his mask off
Well I see how this is going.

>>213017172
??? There is no Time Runs Out movie anon also Strange isn't in Doomsday

>>213018298
He's probably Reed

the only capeshit I've consoomed in the last 2 decades is;

the first iron man movie
the boys tv show
and uh....
that's pretty much it. I've seen a few minutes of the end of iron man 3 several years ago while waiting for better call saul to come on AMC.

I'm proud to have avoided almost all of the slopshit capeshit of the last 2 decades.

>>213018250
Who would you pick to direct a Books of Doom adaptation?

>>213018369
NTA but Darren Aronofski

>>213017980
>>213018049
I can't help but think this stupid copyrights issue will actually be a major relevant plot point for the avengers movies and not just a comedy bit, since all the heroes on earth are really just there with minimal interaction between each other. I can see this working as a human drama subplot, splitting the forces of both teams instead of working together to stop the threat of the incursions, something like
>some of the xmen and/or doom's forces show up out of nowhere, the thunderbolts respond and they start fighting, then captain falcon and his team show up too but there's infighting between both avengers groups and the bad guys run away
that's how you could introduce in an action scene three groups of characters, have dumb comedy about getting in each other's way and set up the recurring drama between both avengers groups.
then, when doom inevitably wins at the end of doomsday, all the thunderbolts but yolanda and most of captain falcon group die and the survivors will have to put away their differences and form a single group to stop doom in the next movie.

>>213018427
ew

So why cant they get the gems again with a strong user and revive everyone?

rajeshbros..

>>213018369
Me; I would directly ape shots from Sergei Eisenstein’s Ivan the Terrible. I would film it in glorious black and white film stock when he recollects, with random technicolor madness scenes when he is performing magic.

>>213017627
>"I'm a collector. I'll collect your world"
That's Braniac not Kang

>>213012287
Sounds way worse than superman. Nice try jeet.

>>213012287
>post credit scene is just Doom talking to the little kid like a fucking creep
in reality
>just kneels and does not say a word

>>213012568
>across all universe there is and will only ever be one Galactus"
But there was already another Galactus in the 2007 Fantastic Four, which exists in MCU via Chris Evans Human Torch being in Wolverine and Deadpool

>>213018579
fantastic four's actual reviews are much worse, its hidden by the aggregate.

>>213017090
>he was morally gray so he brainwashed Sue and raped her in their marital bed for 8 years
kek

>>213018616
Sounds extremely pretentious, just like DOOM.
Would be good.

>>213012053 (OP)
Who's the main draw for Doomsday? RDJ as Doom which everyone laughed at when it was revealed? The Fantastic Four, who's movie no one watched? Thunderbolts who no one cares about or even knows? At most, the only interesting draw is Thor and Loki being back.

>>213012182
that's a shota

>>213012460
I kneel random /tv/-postersama

>>213012442
> He's broadly correct
These people try to play cartoons and capeshit like they’re politicians. “Erm a kchully she’s an established character” for a one off nobody cared about. And caring about it is life or death. You can’t just say you don’t care for it, if you express negativity you are now MechaHitler and need to be stopped and dunked on.
It’s just movies for fucks sake.
Why are they treating box office crap like it’s a battle for the soul of the world, like it has to be litigated.

Imagine people making Jaws the linchpin of political discussions in the 70s. You just don’t get it maaaan! The shark represents the war! It’s the president. Erm but such a shark couldn’t exist ackchully! Erm but ackchully there was a shark called megalodon so theoretically it could be that big! You guys are feminists, it’s a feminist movie!! Chumming the water is a symbol of menstruation! “Shark week” hello?! Actually the shark is Satan and if you see the movie you’re in league with the devil!

How did we get here?

>>213018579
Why do critics love capeshit so much?

>>213012460
that's a great idea. nice one.

>>213019262
They're sad, mentally ill people with no actual lives outside of movies and the internet.

>>213012053 (OP)
>Father is a Mexican spic
>turns out blond and blue eyed
Lol

>>213019603
>what are mothers and their genes

>>213019754
Nope. No kid would turn out that white with a father that's a full blown spic.

>>213020057
>my racism is a science