He gets on base.

Based on what?

>>213018724
Base on balls

>>213018724

>>213018700 (OP)
I watched this as a Brit and had no idea what was going on. I got that it was a small team with less money, but I don't understand what they're actually doing. Was still interesting though

>>213018874
I thought they explained it well during the scene with Billy and the scouts... what didn't you get?

>>213018938
>what didn't you get?
Any of the rules of baseball.

>>213018981
He gets on base.

>>213018700 (OP)
Its ironic that Moneyball ironically killed the team. The Oakland Athletics dont exist anymore

>>213018874
They're using statistics to make decisions

>>213018938
Who's on first?

>>213019019
Oakland sucks nobody should be invested any money into that place

>the team actually scored fewer runs that season than they did the year before
>let's make a movie about it

>>213018724
based on anything, it could be something right here in this thread

>>213019135
They lost Giambi but made him up in the aggregate

How are the Oakland A's doing now?

>>213018874
'Moneyball" meant identifying assets that were undervalued by baseball teams in general. That way a team like Oakland could go after those kinds of players and have a surprisingly good team without blowing their budget.
At the time, skills likr getting on base were undervalued compared to things like batting average or hitting home runs. Getting on base has always been important in baseball, but for a long time most people didn't really understand exactly how important it was. The reason they say that defense doesn't matter in the movie is not because it actually doesn't matter, but because at the time there still were not sufficient and reliable statistical ways of analyzing defense. So it didn't really help them to use that as a basis for valuing players and getting a comparative advantage. Analyzing defense back then involved a lot of appeal of authority and hearsay and other stuff like that. It just wasn't reliable yet. Nowadays baseball has much better defensive statistics.
These days, the kinds of assets that you would go after which are undervalued would look different from how they looked during the time the movie is about but is still the same basic principle. The Tampa Bay Rays have been very smart for a very long time with small budgets. The Milwaukee Brewers the last few years are another example.

>>213019307
They got relegated to a minor league ballpark

>>213018981
I don't think it's important other than more runs = better than

>>213018700 (OP)
What religion was his character

>>213019313
>He gets on base
That's all you needed to type

>>213019676
I don't think it's important either. I got what it was going for but as a Brit if don't know what changes that makes on the field. People like >>213018938 get super defensive but if anything I was commending the movie kek

>>213018874

>hyped young baseball prospect ends up a failure
>as an adult, tries to understand why he failed
>believes he was let down by the traditional way of doing things
>tries to change the system
>is met with resistance by the same people who failed him
>earns a small victory
>turns down a big payday to stick to his principles

it's a character study, you don't need to know much about the mechanics of baseball to get something from it

>>213020520
Well that scene was the exposition of their whole plan (to get more runs for less money)

>>213019019
niggers killed Oakland sports

>>213020717
revealing their secrets to the richer teams with more resources, first with the book, then the movie definitely didn't help

As a non American I only know the baseball by media but I think the rules go like this
There is some square path tilted on it's edge
In the middle there's a guy who throws the towards the guy who has the bat
The guy with the bat has to hit it and make it go as far as possible
when he hits he has to run a circle around but he can stop at any of the base
If the other team gets the ball back to a base before the bat guy can reach it he's out
Then the next bat guy comes in and does the same and I think the previous bat guy can also continue running until he gets back?
You get a point when a bat guy you complete a circle?
Each bat guy gets 3 chance to strike the ball otherwise he's out (of the game or just that round?)

Who's gonna buy the Rockies? It's insane they can just inflate the NL west especially when divisions like the AL East exist

>>213018700 (OP)
The movie makes it seem like Billy Beane was tardwrangling a bunch of rejects when that A’s team had the AL MVP, the 3B silver slugger, and the AL Cy Young winner

>>213020830
You cannot keep a system like that under wraps for long. Certain aspects of it, yeah, but the entire idea wasn't a secret the moment he told his subordinates what he was going to do. In pro sports, every team is constantly keeping up with what its competitors are doing and it seems likely that either someone will run their mouth and spill the bean or someone takes a new job at another club and starts trying to emulate the same thing there. Pro sports personnel frequently hop from one team to another. The secret was out by the time the book hit store shelves.

>>213018753
>he’s bad at baseball because his gf is ugly
Do guys actually think this way?

>>213020940
Fair enough. That is the exact reason Boston tried to poach him

>>213020890
>The guy with the bat has to hit it and make it go as far as possible
Nah, you just want to hit it where there's no defender nearby. If you hit it deep but the outfielder is right there and catches it, you're out.

>Each bat guy gets 3 chance to strike the ball otherwise he's out (of the game or just that round?)
Technically he gets an indeterminate number of chances to hit the ball. Three strikes and the batter is out (goes back to the dugout until his spot in the batting order comes back up). 4 balls and you advance to first automatically. Foul balls count as a strike up to two strikes, but after that you get as many fouls as you want and they don't count. It's actually a strategy batters use to wear out the pitcher, just dinging foul balls over and over. If a fielder catches one in flight though, the batter's out.

>>213021065
Damn, baseball sounds pretty straight forward. Do you mind also explaining to that anon how the Balk Rule works?

>>213020975
Success and attraction are linked.

>>213021376
He gets on base

>>213020909
Yeah but Scott hat burger

>>213020673
You're assuming a British person knows what a run is. You're getting hung up on menutia

>>213021139
>Balk Rule works?
I saw a catcher ball yesterday

still holds up