Isn't it insane that everything Al Gore said was an outright lie. 20 years later his false narratives have been proven to have been total bullshit and yet no one calls him out for it.

lol if Al Gore was president we'd be on Mars and have flying cars.

It's slowly coming true tho.

Oldfag here, when I was a kid they told us New York City would be underwater by the year 2000

>>213107527 (OP)
He’ll say he was right about what would happen, not when it would happen. That’s the cope environmentalists always use (see Paul Ehrlich)

>>213107630
no they didnt grandpa. get off your phone btw

>>213107527 (OP)
>all coastal areas will be underwater by 2025

This didn't happen but now society pay gorillions for green taxes

>>213107630
Remember that period where they were giving/selling everyone household trash compactors to save landfill space and all the landfills had to get together to tell everyone to stop that shit because it doesn’t help, they don’t need it, and it just makes problems worse?

>>213107527 (OP)
Shit like wind turbines and solar panels are pure dystopian nightmare technology. And the worst thing is they are all pushed by giant green energy corporations with obvious vested interests. Always follow the money trial and you'll find the bullshit.

>>213107667
I'm on a PC, young buck

>>213107527 (OP)
Climate change is the most rich person cause ever.

>>213107527 (OP)
You still don't get it. Al Gore's only mistake was the timing.

>>213107802
What is there to get? That I need to invest all my money into your cancer causing solar panels?

>>213107844
>blah, blah, blah...
Not interested. Bye.

>>213107802
There's almost as much cognitive dissonance here as claiming the warnings of doom are themselves why the predictions never came true. A self-unfilling prophecy, if you will.

>>213107888
Fuck off Al and take your leftist propaganda with you

Same poltard threads over and over

Global warming/climate change faggots are some the most hysterical doomsday-cultist retards on the planet.

>>213107977
gotta cry louder when no one seems to care.

>>213107888
Kys

>>213107977
>retarded cultists

I know even more retarded cultists

>>213108097
You do apparently.

>>213107977
No im not

>>213107527 (OP)
I buy into global warming slightly but purely from considering thermodynamics, i don't care about carbon dioxide ozone layer greenhouse gas drivel.
I mean we're effectively taking energy that was once laying dormant underground and we're generating heat while using it. That heat must go somewhere.

And go a step further, how many cubic meters of air-conditioned space exists on Earth right now? Imagine that all of the hot air in that volume got pushed outdoors so now the outdoors is actually even hotter on average.

>>213107544
What did he accomplish as Bill Clinton's Vice President?

>>213108313
>cites thermodynamics
>doesn't understand it

an air conditioner operating in an open space is a net heat gain of zero.

there is an argument to be made about nuclear and hydrocarbon heat generation though. but since they're just boiling water and that water will cool and condense again the heat isn't being retained anywhere.

>>213108476
>the heat isn't being retained anywhere.
except the atmosphere

>>213108476
>an air conditioner operating in an open space is a net heat gain of zero.
The A/C effectively moves hot indoor air to the outdoors. That's how they function. That's what I'm talking about.

>>213108476
>an air conditioner operating in an open space is a net heat gain of zero.
That's impossible.

>>213108673
And without AC that heat would stay "indoors" forever instead?

>>213108673
no human made structure is air tight, is the point you're missing. the cooled air leaks out and is only temporarily contained within the structure, the end result being a net heat gain loss of zero, identical to if said air conditioner was operating in an open space.

>>213108618
the superheated water (read: steam) rises into the sky where it cools and falls again.

>>213108768
That's impossible. The motors of the compressor will generate heat.

>>213108802
>It cools because _________

complete this sentence

>>213108768
That's way more convoluted than just saying that the cooled air is eventually heated back up by energy from the sun seeping in via windows and general lack of insulation. Sealing is not the problem, you can have a perfectly sealed container but if you set it outside it will heat up inside.

>>213108747
I don't understand what your issue is. Cold air is what you have to fight to maintain due to reasons above. Warmth is the natural state due to the sun beating down on the building.

>>213108842
because it expands

>>213108881
>that's way more convoluted than something that also happens

man its almost like reality is complex or something.

>>213108883
so when it condenses it will heat up again right?
lol idiot

>>213108935
yes that is how air conditioners work. hence >>213108476

>>213107788
Is this a real document?

>goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington for that matter

No one writes like that on an official document

>>213108996
uh huh so the increase in energy doesn't go anywhere right? It stays in the system.

I don't know if it's "climate change" or what, but the summers are undeniably getting hotter and dryer. Here in Ontario we've barely had any rain all July and pretty much every day has been 35-40 degrees with the humidity. It was definitely not like this in the 80s and 90s

>>213109086
there is no "increase in energy" with air conditioners. they just move heat from one place to another. unless you want to be autistic and count the nominal energy usage.

>>213108907
It's not that it's outright false, it's just not as helpful to focus on that when the heat leaking in from a window does more "damage" to your cool air than a poor doorframe seal as an example.
Also it's just simpler to picture the cool air molecules being heated by the sun.

He's right. Climate change is here. Better use paper straws and reusable grocery bags. You don't want it to get worse now, do you?

>>213107527 (OP)
>guys Al Gore lied
>just ignore reality
Are you guys really this fucking stupid? It's happening all around us. Look at the flood in Texas and all the natural disasters year after year.
>durrr global warming is fake durrrr
fucking chuds I swear.

>>213109112
>there is no "increase in energy" with air conditioners.
Of course there is. Air conditioners require energy (heat) to run. That comes from burning fossil fuels. We've been over this already.

>>213107977
What do you mean? The world being 1 degree warmer in 80 years will have devastating consequences for humanity!!!

>>213109123
this discussion is about how air conditioners function. bringing up things irrelevant to how air conditioners function is pointless. unless you're trying to claim cargo containers generate heat by existing or something.

>>213109125
What's wrong Ivan, your plastic straw consortium get shut down?

>>213109132
>unless you want to be autistic and count the nominal energy usage.

okay then.

>>213107630
Yet another damn broken promise.

>>213109168
So you forgot the argument you were having 5 minutes ago? okay then.

>>213107527 (OP)
We should really get a lid on those volcanos huh.

After these climate change pol raid threads typically come the ww2 nazi revisionism and crying about Jewish directors threads.

>>213109130
Right, I forgot floods and forest fires didn't exist before 2010

>>213109189
I thought you said greenhouse gases werent real

>>213109183
this started at >>213108313, in response to someone being dismissive of carbon emissions and focusing on air conditioners. nothing else was responded to.

maybe you should pay attention?

>>213109146
>suddenly reality isnt complex anymore
How is what I gave as an example any less relevant than yours bro? And you're the one who started this detour into ways a building loses cooling.

>>213109130
>>213109151
How much shit like this is genuine or just bait? I’ve been seeing a lot of faggy lefty posters recently.

>>213109216
>I mean we're effectively taking energy that was once laying dormant underground and we're generating heat while using it. That heat must go somewhere.

maybe you should pay attention?

>>213109231
reality has a leftist bias Ivan

>>213107527 (OP)
name ONE prediction that was wrong.

>>213109228
>air conditioners generate heat
>no they don't, they "move" heat outside of a structure
>okay but this does generate heat
>that is not relevant to air conditioners

>>213107527 (OP)
The "enviro-retard" thing is a very old scam, that started long before Gore. He just had the bad luck of releasing his goofy-ass book on globalchangingclimatewarming, right before we had a staggeringly cold fucking winter.

>>213109238
>there is an argument to be made about nuclear and hydrocarbon heat generation though. but since they're just boiling water and that water will cool and condense again the heat isn't being retained anywhere.

everything else has been about air conditioners specifically.

>>213109231
The tariffs have finally brought the great economic doom that we all knew was coming and we aren't going to take it sitting down.

>>213109266
You're right it's a scam, the environment has actually improved with the addition of a billion more people on earth. Nothing to see here, keep consuming as usual

>>213109263
For one, the coast of Florida is not underwater. But that was so egregious that he even coped about it in the sequel.

>>213109210
>Right, I forgot floods and forest fires didn't exist before 2010
Apology accepted, fucking retard.

>>213109284
You just quoted the very thing I was responding to. Can you stop trying to waste time and just admit you were wrong?

al gore exaggerated the issue but he's a retarded politician, anthropogenic climate change is not a controversial thing among scientists. politicians make it controversial because lobbyists pay them to. science communicators tend to be onions faggots though, so nothing will get through to half of the population that barely has a grade school understanding of anything scientific. one cold snap is enough to convince retards that climate change doesn't exist lol

>>213109303
the cute thing about overpopulation is only huge amounts of brown people are a problem.

>>213109338
you're talking about heat as if it is some magical thing that doesn't go anywhere or do anything. heated water rises into the atmosphere, expands, and cools.

>>213109264
>>air conditioners generate heat
>>no they don't, they "move" heat outside of a structure
Okay so this nonsense is just being pedantic? A/C units "TRANSFER" heat outdoors. That does not conflict with my point that the outdoors is made hotter by airconditioning.

>>213109343
>the cute thing about overpopulation is only huge amounts of brown people are a problem.
Not really since they consume and produce as much waste at 1/10th the amount of a westerner
North America and Europe have been overpopulated for 60 years.

>>213107630
>be from a specific race and religion
>own properties on the beach
>lots of competition
>use your power in media to create the rumor that the beach will be underwater in 15 years
>competition doesn't fall for it because they are also from your race and religion
Damn it! It was a good try though

If Obama really thought rising sea levels were a problem would he have spent so many millions on waterfront property?
In fact wouldn't the entire Real Estate industry change? Waterfront property is at a premium. Why are banks offering 30 year mortgages on waterfront property? Aren't they worried about the island being under water so they have nothing to repossess? Wouldn't they make waterfront property cheaper if they thought there was a risk of rising sea levels?

>>213107544
I know you don't actually believe this.

>>213109377
an air conditioner operating in an open space is identical to an air conditioner operating between an open and closed space, is the point, you seem too stupid to understand.

to pair it with the inane aside about how closed spaces will heat up when exposed to sunlight, this effectively argues that air conditioning reduces heat generation by keeping closed spaces cool.

>>213109339
The problem is that compounded with doomer hysteria and overexaggeration. Same thing happened with covid. They promised plague tier deaths and hospitals overstuffed and spilling onto the streets with patients, and when that inevitably didn't happen, people stopped caring. Doomers do themselves no favors, ever

>>213109372
>you're talking about heat as if it is some magical thing that doesn't go anywhere or do anything
No, that's what you're doing. If you add heat to the system, there will be more heat. In your very own words, water heats up when it condenses and returns the heat back to the surface.

>>213109386
India is third in carbon dioxide emissions. China is first.

>>213109386
>they consume and produce as much waste at 1/10th
this doesn't work when there's a hundred times as many of them.

>>213109211
Carbon dioxide that you exhale and that plants inhale is not the same as soot from a volcano
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer
Volcanos are a real problem if you look At the historical record.

Reminds me of the times a decade back when white nationalists in Europe started fear mongering about Syrian refugees supposedly being covert ISIS terrorists who would destroy Europe.

>>213107527 (OP)
>"We must stop global warming"
>*the globe stops warming*
>"Uh..... we must stop climate change!"

Global warming/climate change (or whatever the kikes are calling it today) is a hoax in the sense that it is NOT man-made (like they say it is). Earth has been going through NATURAL CYCLES of warming and cooling SINCE ITS BIRTH. The Milankovitch cycles are related to these cycles of global warming and global cooling. Furthermore, ALL of the planets in the Solar System are warming up right now. This does NOT mean that pollution does not exist, because it DOES. I am NOT pro-pollution. In fact, I am VERY ANTI-POLLUTION. It's just that I REALISE that a carbon tax is NOT going to stop pollution (and so do they). Free energy exists EVERYWHERE IN UNLIMITED QUANTITIES (like Tesla said) and it is COMPLETELY CLEAN, that's why they are SUPPRESSING free energy and giving us shitty alternatives like solar power, hydro power and wind power. They are using global warming/climate change as a way to further their globalist agenda to establish a single planetary government. Remember: Global 'problems' require global 'solutions'. This is the Hegelian dialectic on a global scale. Not only do they want a single planetary government, but they also want to DE-INDUSTRIALISE THE WORLD via their global warming/climate change SCAM. Don't fall for it.

>>213109459
>this doesn't work when there's a hundred times as many of them.
But there isn't, the population of the US is 340 million.

>>213109452
>water heats up when it condenses and returns the heat back to the surface.

you're a legit retard. wow.

Why wont Trump release the Epstein files? what's in it that he wont release it?

>>213109263
Al Gore said that New York City would be underwater because of rising sea levels

>>213109484
Your words, not mine.

>>213109502
When are you fags going to get bored of this shit? If you’re going to raid then at least be funny.

>>213109303
You Malthusians should off yourselves for the good of everyone else.

>>213109505
Yes, I said you're a legit retard in response to something completely inane
>water heats when its condensed
like what even the fuck rajesh?

>>213109530
why don't I off you instead

>>213109482
okay 22 times and rising. your argument is still dogshit.

Who cares about Al Gore anymore? He lost the 2000 election and ever since than he was bitching and complaining about the weather killing all life on earth in a few years later. That stupid movie he made was boring and gay. The best thing that happened was the South Park man bear pig joke.

>>213109502
Why didn't Joe Biden release the Epstein files and expose Trump as a pedophile last October? It would have won Democrats the election!

>>213109527
Is the head of state being a pedophile boring to you?

>>213109531
You said it, not me.
>so when it condenses it will heat up again right?
>yes that is how air conditioners work
>yes that is how air conditioners work
>yes that is how air conditioners work

>>213109306
>>213109503
Soon, Allah willing

>>213109564
Because he's in it too? Don't you think we should do something about that?

>>213109564
they (read: both parties) were too busy voting unanimously to remove the requirement for private flights to publish passenger manifests as part of their flight plans.

>>213109566
When you keep spamming the shit over and over again yes.

>>213109555
Not really, since the co2 emissions of china service western nations, and western nations have overwhelmingly contributed the majority of co2 emissions since industrialization began

>>213109571
>can't link the post
lmao also see >>213108476

its amazing how such a simple diagram befuddles the brown mind.

>>213109589
Becuase the American public has the attention span of a goldfish. The fact that MAGA is slowly forgetting about this is appalling.

>>213109589
*same shit

>>213109433
Dispute this because this is all I care about

>>213109609
>>can't link the post
>>213108935
>>213108996
Wat, you can't remember what you typed 10 minutes ago?

>>213109583
Maybe democrats and republicans need to change their primaries so they stop choosing pedos to represent them politically

>>213109605
"greenhouse gas" theory is based on the surface temperature of venus, a planet that is 26 million miles closer to a giant nuclear furnace than the earth. there's also the fact mars' atmosphere is mostly CO2, and its cold, because its further away from said heat source.

>>213109667
>"greenhouse gas" theory is based on the surface temperature of venus
lol good one ivan

>>213109628
this guy disputed it at >>213108881, there would be more heat in the house without the air conditioner, thus more heat in general.

>>213109665
I agree. We should start by releasing the files, arresting the people in them, cleaning house, then choosing better candidates.

>>213109689
>files get released
>there's nothing in them

>>213109681
feel free to look it up. there is literally zero causal evidence, its all correlation and even that breaks down.

>>213109112
>there is no "increase in energy" with air conditioners. they just move heat from one place to another.

They have an EER rating that is the rario of watts of electricity used vs the watts cooling produced (measured in BTUs). They are getting more efficient now but the process still has a lot of loss due to waste heat. In adition to the refigersnt cycke mentioned above, in a central air installation your furnave motor runs to circulate thag cooler air through the home and none of that energy is recovered. Any inefficiency in a system becomes heat. An 80% efficient fan motor means 80% of the electricity you feed it becomes mechanical energy and the other 20% becomes heat.

Just getting that electricity to the home also produces enormous waste heat due to transmission line losses. So even if its a solar farm or hydro plant, the power lines heat up as the electricity is transported from the powerplant to the place it is to be consumed. Thermal cameras are used to monitor power lines especially in the summer as the highest useage in a city comes from air conditioning. Some california fires have been caused by dry brush not being cleared from around power lines that are at or exceed their peak summer current load caused by air conditioning.

Tl;dr
If you ever meet an environmentalist who complains about the room temperature being hot in their office, kick them in the cunt.

>>213109706
I have looked it up, that's why I'm laughing at your bald faced lie

There is no "climate". "Climate", like "gender", is a psyop term. If you use it, you have alrady surrendered.
>introduce new term in distinction to existing term ("there is a difference between weather and climate", "there is a difference between sex and gender")
>use new term to confuse people's assumptions and observations tied to old term ("the climate is getting hotter even though the weather is cold", "her gender is female even though her sex is male")
>abolish old term and take over reality completely ("there is no such thing as 'biological sex' bigot!", "look at how radically the climate is changing! it was cold just 6 months ago and now its boiling hot, this is not normal!!")

>>213109562
People bring up Gore because Gore losing is like when the timelines truly broke off. Had Gore won, the invasion of Iraq would not have happened. 2008 financial crisis may not have happened. Trump would have likely never ran in 2016. American politics would have been EXTREMELY different today. The media and political landscape would be night and day.

>>213109703
Yeah that's a possibility. Which begs the question, if there's nothing in them, why doesn't trump release the files? This is the first time that his base is seriously pushing back against him and yet he just wont do it. Why?

>>213109732
No Ivan climate isn't a jooOish trick.

>>213109723
>unless you want to be autistic and count the nominal energy usage.

>>213107630
Yup. I voted conservative specifically to flood the degenerate coastal cities and all I got for it was a strong economy and high paying jobs. Lame.