Now that the dust has settled and its status as a flop is cemented, what went wrong?

Casting a jew as a golem

>>213352141 (OP)
it was this poster fault, overseas theaters only printed this one even tho the other ones were way better

Bad trailer, bad movie. Simple as

>>213352141 (OP)
First, it's not a flop. It wasn't a massive success, but it did break even. If they hadn't overstuffed it with characters and kept the budget down, it would've been a hit.
Second, Corenswet is a "literally who" kind of actor, basically another Brandon Routh. A more notable lead would've helped. Cavill got people interested in MoS even though the material wasn't that good.
Third, audiences are simply over capeshit in general, and have been for a while. Unless the film has some major gimmick going for it, people really just don't care.

It broke even to fast and BTFO marvel too hard

>>213352141 (OP)
Nigga give it a rest, Gunn won.

>>213352950
>our movie barely broke even and is doing mediocre while those guys movies bombed! Ha!

>>213352705
had nothing to do with overstuffing of characters. It's that it's capeshit at all.

It was a solid hit domestically, it won the Summer in the U.S. It just flopped internationally, because all capeshit is flopping internationally.

>>213352705
>Cavill got people interested in MoS
by his looks maybe. he was also a literally who at the time

>>213353073
I dunno why James Gunn didn’t just keep Cavill as Superman while rebooting otherwise, he looks like her was born to play Superman

I simply do not purchase popcorn.

It’s not about money for Wb its about trust in dc now, now clayface and supergirl are primed for billion

>>213353171
because he's too old, isn't a good actor, and at this point costs like 10 million+ per movie so it isn't even worth it.

it wouldn't have made a difference anyway. It's not as if Cavill is some massive draw, he's literally been in one successful movie and that was because of Cruise, not him, and every other project he's been attached to has been a disappointment or outright bomb. The movie underperformed internationally due to Asian markets being done with capeshit, it did fine, great, even in the U.S.

>>213353073
He's a meh actor but he's charisma.

>>213352141 (OP)
Superman seems to be a smash hit in the USA, but the third worlders hate it. Why?

>>213353191
>its about trust in dc now
By that metric too this was a failure, even the people praising it are just saying it’s a fun and cheerful movie but not anything great.

>>213353252
entire world is bored with your daily clown show, American fatigue is real

>>213353250
no he doesn't. he's completely carried by his looks. the guy is wooden as fuck. brad pitt and tom cruise have looks and charisma. Cavill just has the former, which is why everything he's attached to flops and he isn't some breakout star like them. the only reason he's liked at all by this point is because he catered to nerds by namedropping 40k and PC gaming so autists could say "he's literally me".

>>213353182
Based

>>213352141 (OP)
Trying to make a cinematic universe. If it was just superman with the promise of a whole superman trilogy like Reeves' Batman more people would be interested. Cinematic Universes are seen as a hasbeen meme

Hoping it makes more money just for the Snydertard seethe

t. didn't watch it

>>213352976
>Gunn won
At flopping.

>>213352141 (OP)
WB believed geeks and reviewers represent the general audience. It's a common mistake

>>213352141 (OP)
It was the script. It's always the script. Writing, turns out, is the most important part of a movie. Everything else is secondary.

>>213352141 (OP)
It's literally doing better than F4, lmfao. Cope.

>>213354018
>It's doing better than absolute dog shit.
That's not a flex.

>>213352141 (OP)
I seriously do not understand how it didnt make as much money as Man of Steel. It should have been so easy

>>213352705
>it did break even
Lel, no. It's at $550M and it needs at least 600

>>213354115
Capeshit fatigue. MoS was in the capeshit peak times and piggybacked off arguably the best capeshit movie of all time, critically and financially. It is even more impressive that it is matching MoS even with all that taken into consideration.

>>213354115
MoS came off the back of the absolute hype train that were the Nolan Batman movies (whether you like those films or not is a moot point).

>>213354018
Remember when Gunnites were playing nice with F4 because they thought that movie was gonna do well? Now they're going out of their way to bash it, because they have no integrity at all.

>>213354303
Ukraine will probably fall eventually and the US will try to have amicable relations with Russia again. If Hitler won WW2, the US was ready to shake hands with him too.

You can hate Bibi Netanyahu all you want but he's right when he says history favours the winners.

>>213352141 (OP)
Making shit up won't restore the snyderverse

>>213353252
Trump did

>>213352141 (OP)
james gunn.

>>213354093
Well people still chose to watch Iron Man 3 over Man of Steel and that is one of the shittiest movies from the MCU out there, even though MoS is much better than IM3

>>213352141 (OP)
It’s getting a sequel loser

>>213352141 (OP)
>it was a flop

>>213354303
pedro was the one who tweeted that shit first lmao

>>213355395
reddit spacing is the mark of the russian kike shill

>>213352705
Audiences are over capeshit, also Superman has never worked well in movies. They've restarted this franchise how many times now and it's never worked?
Superman is well known because it's the base level concept and image of a classic super hero.
That doesn't mean it makes for good movies.

>>213352141 (OP)
It was a children movie and America is the only country in the world were adults will go to see a children movie without bringing a child with them. In the rest of the world it had to compete with Jurassic Park and kids love dinosaurs, so families went to see that instead.

>>213354303
I don't remember that because it never happened. The image you posted was tweeted by Pedro Pascal because under the hood they knew what they were sitting on, but on here it was "F4 is going to break supershits legs"

>>213355837
Also it just barely passed Thor Dark World despite having a bigger budget

>>213355837
Marvel had street cred back then.

>>213353073
Yeah, but the guy looks like a Greek God. I think he must have been the last star who was somewhat of a draw purely by how good looking he was.

now that the dust has settled, who is the goat?

>>213356326
Unironically Hoult. His complete irrational hatred is so visceral.

>>213352141 (OP)
>and its status as a flop is cemented

It's made $551.3 million so far, which is $51.3 million more than was needed for it to be considered a success in the eyes of the studio.

A movie doesn't need to make a billion dollars to be a success.

>>213352705
It wasn't a flop, but WB probably isn't too happy either. It only did solid numbers in America, which is fine, but it was carried hard by zillennials (as in +25 to mid 30s), which is not ideal for a franchise that is just starting. The main demographic of movie goers is still 18 to 24 and people progressively go less to the cinema as they grow older, so if the next DC movies can't appeal to younger people it will have trouble in a not so distant future. Same thing happened to Marvel. Of course it didn't help they have been making trash for ages and that it felt like their universe concluded satisfyingly after End Game, but also their audience just aged out. The difference is that when the MCU started it was huge with young people, so it could last for a while. But that same audience, now around 30, is the still the main audience watching capeshit and a bunch of them don't bother anymore. They haven't been able to appeal to young people, and neither really could Superman. I think the era of capeshit is just over. You need to be a funko pop collection man children to keep going to watch all these movies.

>>213356564
>A movie doesn't need to make a billion dollars to be a success.
It does when half the movies you release lose money. All the media industries work like this. You throw a bunch of shit to the wall. Most fail, but you get one or two mega hits that make up for all loses. This needed to make up for Joker 2 and The Flash. You're out of your mind if you think Warner weren't hopeful for at least 750 millions. They allocated to this a hyper aggressive marketing budget overseas, comparable to what they did for Barbie, which did twice as well. All hope for Warner at the moment is that it garnered enough good will that it will kickstart more successful follow ups.

Look. If in 2025 there had been another niche Superman by Snyder+Cavill it would have certainly gained 1/3 than Gunn's.

>>213356829
Snyder was always a weird choice. MoS is a surprisingly solid movie despite all the baffling script choices, which were on Goyer and Nolan, to be fair. But when Snyder got more input in BvS and made a piece of garbage with some interesting moments/elements, it was time to let him go. Other than Eissenberg, the casting was fine. The foundations were solid enough. And they still had more than enough toom to pivot. They should have never green lightened JL, and then they should have never brougham Joss Wheddon in to finish it. And then they should have never tried to replace Cavill with a dark haired Supergirl from an alternative reality that isn't even the Supergirl everyone knows. And then Black Adam getting his own movie completely separated from Shazam. Terrible choice after terrible choice. I know Tomorrowland flopped hard, but if I had been a Warner suit, I would have brought Brad Bird to do MoS 2 after BvS failed. He would have found the right tone. They also needed a Batman written and directed by Affleck before doing JL.

>>213356636
This is what WB said about it
Ben Fritz: Yeah. People internally at Warner Bros. are saying, "This movie's got to gross at least $500 million," and I think that's the absolute minimum that they would consider a financial success. And just as importantly, they want people to feel good coming out of it and to like it. They'll really be looking for what are the ratings they're getting from fans? What's the online buzz? That's obviously a little bit harder to quantify, but that's really important to them.

The market of superheroes its dying no one is denying that and WB woke up too late but i can least see that WB is happy this movie will do 600m+
Bet they are happy of how good domestic Superman landed and even OW stabilized and did fine.

>>213352141 (OP)
We are one step closer of restoring Snyderverse. Victory is ours, screencap this

>>213357353
snyder its so dogshit he already killed two universe at netflix lmao dude went to work with the saudis

>>213352496
Lack of eye contact

>>213357311
> Ben Fritz: Well, I've spoken to some people who have worked at DC over the years, and they've always said that as far as public perception of the DC brand, as goes Superman, so goes the brand. That's how people see DC. And if people feel good about Superman, then they feel good about DC. They feel bad about Superman, then they're sour to DC. So of course, Warner Bros. wants this movie to be a huge box office hit, but what they really need is for people to be excited about DC again.

That’s always been objective of this movie. To rebuild Superman brand. And already done that domestically. Overseas is entirely different issues. All capeshit now is under preforming overseas and China is shutting it out

>ctrl + f
>synder
>1 of 7 matches

Explain the cult of the Synderites for me

300 was ok and full of memes, as long as you completely ignore the fact it is completely historical fiction
Watchman didn't have the squid which ruins the entire point of the comic
and I didn't bother watching the DC Synder universe.

Why does he do comic films when he is only really known for zombie flicks like the Dawn of the Dead remake?

>>213353073
>he was also a literally who at the time
Maybe not internationally, but he was known by the time The Tudors tv show was airing.

>>213353252
I have enormous mutt fatigue and I want mutts to die a violent death and their country destroyed. What’s so hard to know about that?

>>213357744
You are really racist. Maybe you are the issue

Seriously. Go to a website full of Americans
Say racist shit
Get angry Americans shit on you
Go to an American website
Repeat

I don't think we are the problem bro. I think you are just stupid and haven't accepted it.

>>213352141 (OP)
Kind of baffling that this has good word of mouth among normies and good reviews but isn't doing better. Is going to the movies that dead? I've heard one person say the classic "I'll wait for it to come out on streaming".

They had the perfect actor to play superman and they recast him. Also gunn's movies suck.

I mean you have to be dumb as a brick to go to a place
Say stupid racist shit
Get shit on by Americans who love to fling shit
Get upset
And repeat

You are just stupid. It's not the end of the world

>>213355395
>Ukraine will probably fall eventually
Two more weeks

Give the racist brown shit a minute
His kind is retarded they hop thread to maximize the amount of insults they get replying 30 minutes later

I just want him to know
No matter what he does
He will always be the same

>>213357722
nah he was a literally who, who the fuck watched the tudors?

any film with Israel's army getting destroyed in the Gaza strip by Justice gang and Hawkgirl drops Benjamin Netanyahu to his death over their capital should be considered a national treasure of a film.

>>213357932
Concerning

>>213356027
Spacing doesn't belong to reddit, newfag.

>>213356326
Rosenbaum

>>213358018
Alright, alright, you can stop crying now, Ahmed.

>>213352141 (OP)
Nothing really. it's a nice movie. MoS was better visually though and it still has the best depiction of Krypton and Superman's parents.

>>213358144
See
>>213357744

It's either a brown or yellow shit or Russian
It's the same file he's been using weeks
He needs to consider suicide or being hospitalized give the posting amounts
He's incredibly racist

>>213358198
Get away from me

>>213353171
Do you guys unironically like Cavill? To me, it's unbelievable, he is so far from Superman, he has zero charisma, is this bizarro world?

>>213352705
It flopped enough to know the rest of Gunn’s slate won’t work

I've chucked what Zach Snyder DVDs I had in my library into the bin last week because of how utterly insufferable the Snyder fanbase has been over the years has made me retroactively hate Zach Snyder (and dislike Henry Cavill who doesn't deserve it at all).

I loved Dawn of the Dead in the theater and it was one of the first 3 films to be in my physical media library, with 300 soon following and then Watchmen; kino despite flaws joined later, and even Sucker Punch. So those four flicks I owned physical and liked, although by Sucker Punch the romantic magic with his films were over for me.

Now I generally dislike and avoid mainline capeshit so didn't bother to watch any of the "Snyderverse" era DC films despite Snyder's involvement. I did notice around this time a marked increase in brand "warfare" and fanboyism, but I generally disregarded it as an aspect of the comic brands with Marvel being more fluff for plebs and DC a little more patrician and serious.

But over the years I've noticed with calls for "the Snyder cut" and implications that Snyder was hamstrung from his artistic vision for those Snyderverse films were brought up with more defensive and vitriolic fanboy banter, and it gave a bad taste in my mouth. When I heard about Rebel Moon I was slightly hyped, because I did enjoy early Snyder films and the idea of a sci-fi action blockbuster that was a original IP was appealing. Unfortunately Rebel Moon was mediocre at best trash at worst, and the "Snyder cut" cries did not improve it.

Ridley Scott made kino back in the day then nothing but trash later, it's how it goes sometimes, no problem.

But then when the new DC reboots started popping up, the absolute shitflinging was annoying as shit, and it wasn't even Marvel vs DC, it was Snyderverse vs DC. How fucking insufferable can a fanbase get? The vitriol for anything not related to his version of capeshit has gotten out of hand and has made me retroactively hate Snyder. Worst fanbase in mass media.

>>213352141 (OP)
It was a superman movie

>>213358451
He's just good-looking and a nerd. His Superman movie sucked but it's not his fault.

>>213358739
kinda makes me glad both snyder projects at netflix crashed and burned because he never called out his dogshit fanbase.

>>213358739
It's the opposite for me. Witnessing the JUSTice cut and then Snyder's cut, I can't hate on Snyder for that alone. Good GOD Jess Whedon is a hack.
Ridley Scott is better than both though, goes without saying.

>>213352141 (OP)
Nothing? It's still in theaters, with legs. How much are you being paid for this thread?

>>213357862
In all honesty, none of the blockbusters out right now are all that bad, certainly not terrible. But movie theaters are mostly dead. Even my normie friends barely go to the movies anymore.

>>213352141 (OP)
it didnt flop tho. it broke records

>>213359333
He's not being paid, he's a snyder cultist, and they are just that insufferable.

>>213353254
if you're going to lie could you please not make it so obvious

>>213359333
It's behind MoS in total box office comparing them week to week and the gap is widening each day. MoS had a terrible second week drop, while this one did pretty well, but MoS had a surprise comeback during the third week, while this one started to decrease sharply. Still better at the domestic office though.

>I didn't see a dog. Change my mind.

>>213358596
Add to the fact that theres no direct sequel, just a cluster of spin-offs and shows. Why should i get invested when the movies are just going to be all over the place?

>>213360471
And MoS got destroyed by Superman 78. So what?

Odds the next one will be New Gods: Female Furies, Granny Goodness, Kalibak and Darkseid

or Brainiac?

>>213360471
Comparing shit from 12 years ago is only what retards online do. Studios don’t because they know the entire landscape has changed with steaming. There was no steaming 12 years ago. Everything is going to steaming and Covid has accelerate it. Only reason people go to the movies now is for the full big screen experience and or they got kids and want to distract them. Why kid movies are still making billions. Movies hit streaming within 35-45 days. People that might have gone because it would take almost a year for it to hit video are just waiting for the streaming release

>>213360684
It’s going to be Superman-Supegirl and there no way it won’t be Briainic since he has a link with Supergirl

>>213352950
To break even, *Superman* (2025) needs to gross approximately $560–675 million worldwide, based on a reported production budget of $225 million and marketing costs estimated between $100–200 million. The industry standard for profitability typically requires a film to earn 2–2.5 times its total budget to account for theater revenue splits (studios retain about 50–55% domestically and 40–45% internationally). A lower marketing budget of $100 million would put the break-even point around $500–562.5 million, while a higher estimate of $200 million raises it to $600–675 million. Some reports suggest Warner Bros. would consider $500 million sufficient with strong critical and audience reception, factoring in ancillary revenue from streaming and merchandise. As of July 31, 2025, the film has grossed $510 million globally, indicating it is close to or has surpassed the lower end of the break-even range.[](https://screenrant.com/supermans-box-office-passes-all-other-2025-superhero-movies/)[](https://movieweb.com/superman-box-office-break-even/)[](https://cosmicbook.news/superman-box-office-goal-budget-revealed)

>>213360809
Only thing WB isn’t thrilled about is overseas but that is the new reality for capeshit. Capeshit is over in China. Every capeshit movie has under performed overseas this year. We will see how toxic it is when Doomsday hits. It making a billion would’ve been a sure thing a year ago. Now it will struggle and might even end up like Minecraft and fall short

>>213360776
>It’s going to be Superman-Supegirl and there no way it won’t be Briainic since he has a link with Supergirl

Explain. in the DCAU, he was connected to Superman as he was the main super computer Krypton and thus held all the info of the planet and covered up the fact the planet would blow up because "it was already too late" and he had to focus on his own survival. I believe Kara, Supergirl, was on some Kryptonian colony.

>>213360671
>So what?
The point of the thread is that Superman is a bit unsatisfying as the first Superman movie that starts a shared universe. Considering that it probably ends around 600m
>mos
You're letting your anger get the best of you. Okay, let me explain. People only compare it to MOS because of the contextual similarities, like it being the first Superman movie in years. So there will be comparisons whether you like it or not. Especially since MOS was also considered unsatisfying, and this new Superman movie is doing worse.
The difference may be that current producers had lower expectations for Superman than for Mos. They'll be happy with less, as long as it's not a failure and loses money. It doesn't have to be a success.
But they must have very low expectations if a 630-m Superman movie is enough for them. I don't know what happened to them to make them so demoralized by DC.

>>213360977
So Man of Steel was a flop, then

>>213360906
You’re going off the cartoon. They have a history together since they were both on Krypton and she has a relationship with a Brainic 5, a descendent of Brainiac

>>213352705
>A more notable lead would've helped.
>Cavill
No one gave a fuck who Cavill was before Man of Steel. He was that boring actor in the gay Greek Toga movie with Mickey Roarke in a stupid-looking helmet.

>>213361031
>They have a history together since they were both on Krypton and she has a relationship with a Brainic 5, a descendent of Brainiac

>As time went on, Brainiac 5 began to be portrayed as unstable. Long attracted to Supergirl, Brainiac 5 creates a robot duplicate of her in his sleep, convincing himself that she is the real Supergirl

>>213354179
>>213354229
Cope Gunnjeets. This movie simply sucks too much.

powerful

>>213360740
>Why kid movies are still making billions
In what world is this not a kid movie though? Even the people who love it call it "just like a heckin Saturday Morning cartoon"

>>213352976
don't know why, but when anyone rights nigga on 4chan, especially a blue,makes me chuckle, I think cuz most right it with a hard r

>>213352705
People like you are exhausting. After deep thought I’ve just concluded you should neck yourself.

>>213356326
animated series, black too, hate to admit it

>>213352141 (OP)
In fact, kindness, was not the real punk rock all along.

>>213361880
>animated series, black too, hate to admit it

the retconned him white in the later part of the animated series.

>>213360740
Admissions have declined, but inflation has increased too. And there are still adult movies reaching a billion. Didn't Barbie and Oppenheimer both did it and in the same month? This movie isn't doing as well as expected. No one at Warner was expecting this to make less than MoS.

>>213361786
Modern kids don't like saturday morning cartoons

>>213361904
lol why, and sauce

>>213361880
he was never black, you just weren't a perceptive kid

>>213361013
Yeah. Has that ever be put in question? That's the reason they never made the sequel and instead panicked and did a crossover with Batman. Supposedly this one isn't getting a direct sequel either, and you can bet if it had crossed a billion they would have given the green light right away.

>>213357862
It has good word of mouth among a very tiny slice of terminally online millenials and genuine paid shills. It's a mediocre slot filler for kids and they saw it and moved on to the next thing. Going to the movies will remain dead as long as there is nothing to go and see.

>>213361944
Most people back in the 90s assumed Lex was black. It was the voice and the lips. Also the 90s were pretty liberal in general so having a black man as the world's second most intelligent man was expected

>>213361965
So unless it makes at least a trillion, it's a flop?

>>213361923
idk

>>213359356
They ARE terrible. It's a problem of perception.
>compared to what came out during the last 5 years, this isn't so bad
But forgetting the last 5 years is all junk. Anyone who hasn't realised just how low quality (which I think is more accurate than say "bad") hollywood productions have gotten should probably revisit some older stuff. You couple the very low quality of movies now with both insanely overpriced ticketing and streaming availability and it's going to be hard to get people in to a theater.

>>213361995
>So unless it makes at least a trillion, it's a flop?
anyone who brings up x didn't make y, therefore flop is a brainlet. Imagine wasting your life looking at gross box office results. This is now how this shit works.

>>213361995
950$ millions would be acceptable. Higher than MoS counting inflation but that won't happen

>>213361995
A Superman movie that starts a shared universe should make a billion.
It can't be that DC gets raped by mutated dinosaurs every time.

>>213362068
So at least $950 billion, then. But what about theater cut? Wouldn't it need at least two trillion?

>>213362137
You're just trolling or a literal shill

Maybe nobody wants Superman as a repainted MCU movie?

>>213362213
You're right. With marketing, it would need at least three trillion. It's a shame that Man of Steel got wrecked so hard by Superman 78, though. I guess that's why Snyder was fired in disgrace

>>213361995
When it's meant to kickstart a whole universe with lesser known IPs then it's not a great sign that your heavy hitter can barely break even. As a one off it would be fine, just as MoS as a one off would have been fine. But only in the upcoming years it will be clear if it was a success or a flop. One thing to have in mind though is that merely by announcing it as a reboot of the whole line they killed any chance of The Flash, Blue Adam, Shazam 2 and Blue Beetle recovering any money. All those movies were fucking terrible, of course, but Superman still hurt them, and WB surely was hoping that it was going to be a hit big enough to recover some of those loses. Overall WB is run like shit. But what's new.

>>213362252
Gunn won't fuck you. You're too old for his tastes

>now tracking to do less than MoS
Gunnjeets went from that cocky billion to complete cope mode

>>213356773
>It does when half the movies you release lose money
Okay but this one didn't. It needed to cross $500 mil to be considered a success by WB, and it did, ergo it is a success.

>>213362354
>. It needed to cross $500 mil to be considered a success by WB
Source? Because those numbers are abysmal.

>>213362306
Sex before marriage is a sin. I'm not interested in that. I'm just here to talk about what a flop Superman 25 is because it failed to make four trillion dollars

Why don't they just let Snyder direct MCU movies?

>>213357862
It's a very millennialcore movie and it has done really well with that demographic, at least in America. The problem is that it isn't resonating that much with younger people. That is a fact, but also, while this is purely circumstantial, every single video YouTube has recommended me of someone glazing this movie is some nerdy 30 year redditor talking about the importance of "kindness as the new punk rock" with no self awarene whatsoever of how lame and "hello, fellow punk kids" they come off as. This movie targeted millennial boomers too hard and that stopped it from going above 750m.

>>213361986
Black people think Goku and Piccolo are black.

>>213362580
White people think Goku is white. It's not a black or white thing, it's an American thing. They can't relate to a character unless it's like them

>>213362580
Piccolo isn't black, but Pikkon is

>>213357682
Because he said that when filming he tries to create paintings that have motion to them. His mindset is really tuned for comic book or manga adaptation, perhaps even the video game adaptaion of something like elden ring as well

>>213362544
>millennialcore movie
because those are the people slowly taking over society?

>>213361944
i assumed he was racially ambiguous

>>213358120
my fakefag radar says that you are a tourist

>>213362544
This. Seriously, who even listen to punk anymore? The only time you ever hear people bringing it up is some out of touch boomer calling their politics the new punk. A few years ago it was cuckservstive boomers with being trad is the new punk. Now it's libtard boomers with being kind is the new punk. Corny ass niggers should jump from a bridge and stop being cringe.

>>213362544
The only way to reach a billion with zoomers is by adapting skibidi toilet and other braindead shit like that. Not even reddit-esque humor, just straight up negative IQ shit.

>>213362766
It's not about listening to punk, retard, it's about being punk, i.e. rebelling against the norm.
Punk is just a matter of speaking.

>>213362743
Yeah, but there's something curious going on with zoomers and alphas. Historically, young people always consumed the media made by the previous generations. It's just common sense. The people making stuff for you are the ones who are old enough to be making it. Millennials were obsessed with Harry Potter, written by a gen x, for example. But younger zoomers really hate millennialcore slop. And I'm not sure what Hollywood will make of that.

>>213362802
No one under 30 speaks like that. Frankly, I'm not sure anyone under 40 speaks like that.

>>213362802
This. Punk is about sticking it to the normies by working for a globalist mega corporation and mass consuming poorly made goods at inflated prices. Punk is NOT about hurting people's feelings, especially if they are marginalized.

>Gunnjeets coping by blaming zoomers
Just make a real Superman movie and not marvelslop. Nobody wants more marvel. Gunn was a mistake.

>>213362950
>But younger zoomers really hate millennialcore slop
It's a phase.