what did people do at night before tv and radio was invented?

>>213371615 (OP)
have sex

Newspapers, books, magazines, board games, crafts, sitting on the porch and jawing people

Prior to electrification you couldn't do much after dark, people mostly went off to bed.

Finger puppet shows

alcohol and card games

Whore houses

>>213371624

>>213371615 (OP)
told spooky stories over candlelight

TARTARIA

>>213371615 (OP)
Reading. The father read to the family (the Bigle, anthologies such as the Golden Legend. Farmer's Almanac etc, it varies across the centuries. Then you had penny dreadfuls in the UK, serializations etc which became more of an individual habit

>>213371615 (OP)
slept

>>213371615 (OP)
Go to bars, dance halls, theatres, cinemas, restaurants, etc.

>>213371615 (OP)
Read books, went for walks, had conversations with neighbors, discussed current events, Bible study, knitted clothing, smoked pipes, gazed at the stars, listened to the sounds of nature from their porch, who knows what else

>>213371624
i wish that was me

>>213371615 (OP)
Reading. The father read to the family (the Bible, anthologies such as the Golden Legend. Farmer's Almanac etc, it varies across the centuries. Then you had penny dreadfuls in the UK, serializations etc which became more of an individual habit

>>213371624
how did they do that without dating apps?

They fucked like rabbits and the same rules applied as now. Chads only.

Having children wasn't expensive at all especially when men were sole providers and their paycheck provided himself, his wife and his children. This was before feminist revolution which made wages shit.

>>213371615 (OP)
medieval chads slept twice in the day.
go to bed at sundown
wake up for a couple of hours to chill and hang out with people in the dead of night
then fall back asleep until morning

>>213372119
by medevial chads do you mean like sons of extremely wealthy barons and viceroys, shit like that?

Died at their jobs

>>213371640
In winter, when the days were shorter, they went to bed around 5pm or 6pm. They would then wake up around midnight, eat and fuck, and then went back to sleep until dawn. When the days were long in the summer, they would stay up a little later and have a shorter midnight break. That's why old middle eastern religions, some of the oldest on Earth, have rules around doing shit after dark. People would eat, drink, and fuck after dark and that became naughty. It's why witches don't do shit during the day. Being up late at night was bad because people would shorten their food supply, be hungover for work in the morning, or sleep later because they didn't go back to bed. That's why it became associated with poor morality.

>>213372119
Chad haiku

>>213372104

The biggest thing that has made "children expensive" is our own standards. Even today they only need a tiny bit of food and a roof over their heads. We were the ones that decided they needed endless toys, trips, state of the art healthcare. Back then if a kid got cancer it was curtains, which is why they went ahead and had 6 of them.

You're unfamiliar with...the void?

>>213371615 (OP)
Pianos. If you wanted to hear the latest songs, you bought the sheet music and went home and played it yourself. Plus people would read newspapers from end to end to occupy their time, as well as lots and lots of books.

Mostly drank and forced their poor wife to have like 8 children which they would then use as slaves and abuse until they eventually ran away from home.

>>213371615 (OP)
sleep

you think you want to do something after 14 hours in the mine?

>>213371615 (OP)
They read, played darts, board games, played music instruments and danced to their friends playing them.

Even as recently as the 1990s, before smartphones, it was a different world. I recently rewatched Training Day and was reminded people used to sit quietly at diners reading the news as opposed to today where everyone is staring at their phones or even playing TikTok videos at full volume.

The old world was so comfy. The internet was a mistake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydply2ka-AA

>>213373045
>Reddit copypast post

>>213372475
But enough about your drunken chav grandfather, m8.

>>213373096
I am tired of brown retards like you that think every post with proper punctuation and spelling is Ai or reddit. Please point out where my post comes from, nigger, I just typed that shit.

Go back wherever the fuck you came from subhuman trash.

>>213373045
the internet was fine when you had to go to a desktop to access it and it wasn't a multimedia source. when it was for discussing things that you saw and heard in the real world.

>>213372014
Men would harrass women till they gave in

>>213371663
When the HORSELESS CARRIAGE came out, horse people were upset, because you could pass the fuck out drunk on your horse, and the horse would just take you home on it's own. Cars just crashed themselves. What a time to be alive.

>>213373096
Did the Reddit spacing give it away?

>>213373162
Are horses the silliest animal

>>213371615 (OP)
>30 replies
>not a single person had mentions sports

>>213372762
Valid.

>>213373181
I would argue donkeys are funnier.

>>213373045
Bars used to be way more affordable. And in post soviet countres used to have cantinas with cheap food and...alcohol.
We still have a saying from that time Seta i Galareta
Problem is that these days bars stooped being this cheap place to go as shops with hot dogs began poping out here. And Fast Food became retardedly expensive.

>>213373140
Well smartphones accelerated the decline. But social media was already enshittifying everything before the iPhone came out. It was a gradual thing.

>>213373165
>reddit spacing
Doesn't exist, people always typed like that in here newfag scum.

>>213371615 (OP)
they got plastered at the saloon while playing cards, then went upstairs and fucked the local whore

basically the same rampant debauchery that is going on now but in a different form

>>213373186
Sports purpose used to be to physically train young men for military service. Now I don't know what the fuck it's for. Scholarships?

>>213373186
Yeah buddy.

>>213371624
>sex

Magazines and periodicals were the slop of the time
Maybe go see the local gyppos fall over and hurt each other in a vaudeville show while being casually racist to their women.

>>213372224
Nope. If you have a farm, you most likely want to check your animals at least once during night.

>>213371640
I'm pretty sure that if you electrify someone they die

>>213372119
Yep. Supposedly that when Ben Franklin did his best reading and writing. Weird circadian rythm.

>>213371615 (OP)
They actually had to engage with other instead of just a video and audio recording of people.
Crazy I know.

>>213371615 (OP)
Architecture was so much cooler when the Tartarians were in charge

>>213371615 (OP)
Read by candlelight. Haven't you ever had a power failure, or gone to the country?

>>213373135
>proper punctuation and spelling
>Ai
DON'T YOU LOOK FOOLISH

>>213371615 (OP)
Talk. Had to keep talking and talk to different people to get back what was said, make progress, be a person. People made the world a story.
As usual the jews tried to replace that with newspaper etc unable to participate.
Not real people.
They made scapegoats to say they were special. They made utter shit spread. Memes. Spam. People encountering it and infected were diminished, degraded and often degenerate, and trying to save themselves by sucking quality into the shit attacking it. Mindless cowards.
Some didn't care. Continued on. They were set upon. Suffered in institutions. Horror. Still happens.

The sheep called themselves meek instead of herded. Tried to inherit the world.

Better people made it.
Baa the sheep say. They Baaaaad. Anything fake because it required holding up. Cowards. They were Shawn and slaughtered, saw the Shepard as a saviour as he led them to the abbatoir.

Protected them from freedom. From being people.

Heroes knew they were. Some remembered them. Some stolen and sold of memory, again called fiction. Fantasy. Doesn't happen says it as it's shown.
A joke.
Some truth and higher standards survive. And are taken further. Made better as they are carried by being.

>>213371640
This is literally gaslighting

>>213373769
>>213372119
>>213372297

Is this the new reddit pop sci fun fact to tell people so they think you're smart?
>ummm ackshully modern humans ummm are sleeping wrong hurrr durrr
unironically kys

>>213373950
this guy sleeps once a day

>>213373907
kek

>>213371615 (OP)
>drinking
>gambling
>prostitution
>smoking opium
>dancing
>going to the theatre
>reading
>seances (spirit readings)
>sports
>enjoying legal cocaine, marijuana, nitrous etc

>>213373186
People were playing sports at night before electricity?

>>213373907
good kek tbqh

>>213371624
I came inside my wife yesterday. It was awesome

>>213373904
What are you

>>213372319
Kids are still cheap if you know how to provide their necessities economically and you promote creative outlets for energy. Food, housing, etc are cheaper for kids than for adults. What really gums it up is that 1) people (women) fall into this trap of reading online guides on everything, and think they have to do all these things to be perfect parents. And then 2) they don't know how to entertain themselves without spending money, let alone entertain a child. So few kids now can play by themselves without getting bored.

I'm just gonna raise my kids like my parents raised me and ignore the modern bullshit. Every time I see something about how to properly care for kids, it sickens me because its expensive, and not healthy for developing an independent mindset.

>>213371624
Wait for real?

>>213373950
Are they in the room with you right now?

>>213374147
Ho GenX, how's things?

>>213372319
the things that made kids expensive is literal laws to make them expensive, forbidding them from working and forcing them to waste all their time in daycares until they're in their 20s.
you need school to learn how to read and write and maybe to get some vague facts around how to understand the world, which you can do in like 1-2 days a week at most. 5 day school weeks are psychotic and existed originally for the unironic purpose of breaking children's wills so that they could serve as mindless factory workers when they grew up.
although I think that today these long school weeks mostly serve the purpose of keeping the kids off the streets so that they don't start trouble everywhere. imagine if they were actually doing useful shit with the first 20 years of their lives instead of being extreme financial drains on everyone and everything and coming out of that lengthy process both ignorant and useless.

>>213371615 (OP)
they went to nigger areas to listen to jazz music snort cheap drugs drink forbidden alcohol and occasionally have their women pimped out
they had an entire mainstream literary genre devoted solely to praising nigger music, nigger bars and promiscuity of white women
it lasted from late 1920s to mass media adoption of tv when they started worshipping nigger music, watched movies where niggers were main characters and talk show that debated white guilt
by now the society was totally integrated so they went to school with niggers and it was common to have niggers fuck their daughters at night when the tv was off

>>213374565
Get some help

>>213374634
fuck off I enjoyed anon's post

>>213374565
Go fuck a black man and get it over with. It seems to be your thing.

>>213371615 (OP)
>read
>draw
>play music
>knit/sew
>various household chores that took up more time than today

>>213374026
fpbp

>>213374045
AI slop.

>>213371615 (OP)
fuckin' and suckin'

>>213371615 (OP)
knitting, tell each other stories, early bedtime they were tired from all the walking + menial labor, getting up early at 3~4a was normal.

>>213371615 (OP)
Read papers, chit chat and generally fuck around. Its beyond me how people can't exist beyond a phone for a few minutes.

>>213372319
My family was dirt poor when they had me. My dad skipped from job to job just sorta being a useless fuck up. And I grew up to be a poor useless fuck up. Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful to exist, but I do see the benefit of sorting your life out, at least a little bit, before just crapping out a kid into a life of mediocracy

>>213375698
Probably a higher quality of life too.

>>213375345
yeah i'm sure people were hurrying to wake up at 3 or 4 AM to do shit in complete darkness lmao
dummy

>>213375698
>Its beyond me how people can't exist beyond a phone for a few minutes.
It's easy if you try. You'd be amazed at how much your mind can wander.

>>213374287
>loop the loop on the swing

I saw a kid smash his face straight into the ground falling from the apex of the loop once, dude had 0 front teeth left and a smashed nose. No mommy or daddy around to pick him up either, we just hobbled him home, rang the bell and ran before we got blamed.

>>213374041
post pics of your wife or it didn't happen

>>213373045
>playing TikTok videos at full volume
I went to see my brother at his college a few months ago, I was shocked to see kids just do exactly this in class and the lecturer just ignoring it and carrying on with his class. Dude is paying serious money for this? Shoulda gone in the trades like me, fucking egghead...

my grandma read Mills & Boon novels.
my grandpa got drunk and hit her.

>>213375769
they'd do random chores around the house and work on their crafts, my great grandma still gets up at 4am every morning to do exactly that. She goes to sleep at like 8pm though.

>>213376369
Were the swings on fucking pavement?

>>213371663
I wonder how 19th century was with alcohol consumption +30% higher than now and days shorter due to no light. Constant slurry?

>>213372104
Women and children worked pretty much all day in farms just as men

>>213375769
Before union labor rules, children and adults were working 12 hour days and six day weeks.

>>213376604
yeah, well, what have the IWW done lately?

as far as i can tell, they're just harping on about "trans rights" now.

>>213376477
nah it was that strange bouncy reddish plasticky ground they have in kids areas. I dunno, he hit it from quite high or maybe he hit the cement border around the playground, this was like 28 years ago so details aren't clear. It's one my earliest memories, so I can't be sure what I saw and what I remember from various kids bringing it up over the years.
I still have one of his teeth in a box at my parents lol, some of us picked a few up as a souvenir,

>>213376744
> that strange bouncy reddish plasticky ground
...you mean tarmac, lad?

>>213373950
this is basic anthropological fact, check out what the average home looked like around, say, the 14th century. your life as a 1300's commoner and even for many nobility and even kings, was going to bed in the same big room as your family - and as a commoner that "big room" is the entirety of your house. most people would sleep in a double bed with their children, so like a big pile of dogs or more accurately primates essentially.

and because you're all in one room, your hearth or a firepit would be there too - and even as far back as the copper age they would have had some form of "consumer" lighting utensils - which could go from something as simple as tightly bound bundles of certain plants that burned well and lasted for several minutes, to something as nice as a clay or even metal oil lamp setup, which could burn indefinitely if needed with maintenance on the hour

i can't imagine how surreal it was for just about EVERYBODY in a village to wake up some time in the AM depending on the season, and just be up, hanging out. with all the interior lighting options, and with how clear of light pollution a medieval sky would be - how bright the moon and the stars would be - i'm sure it was almost like a strange, inverse, blue day sometimes, your whole town walking about, eating, drinking, talking, some maybe even getting work done, but it's the dead of night

ultimately as we got to the industrial period and reached electricity and artificial light we adapted to a radically different way of living and developed the 8 hours work, 8 hours recreate, 8 hours sleep philosophy and it's since been that way for over 100 years now

>>213373950
>new
"alternative sleep cycles" have been a smart guy internet infographic life hack since forever, not specifically Reddit.

>>213376806
>>213376891
as an addendum i'm just stating objective facts with my post not taking a side, THIS post will be me taking a side

somnology dictates the best form of sleep for us IS actually the monophasic. getting 6-8 hours all at once allows you to experience full sleep cycles and enter REM, to dream, and defragment your mind and enter the body's deep-restoration processes. there's a reason every country with a "siesta" is also consequently full of sleepy beaners - it's a shit way to sleep and you are essentially choking yourself out of like 30% of the energy you could be getting by not sleeping enough the first time and getting a weak ass nap. if i remember correctly naps either need to be extremely short, like under the half hour range, or longer than 3 hours to gain the benefits of the deeper stages of sleep

>>213373907
9/10 needs carlos

>>213371615 (OP)
they read books and older generations would complain about how no one wants to go outside anymore because they’re always on their damn books

>>213377047
this nigga studies naps

>>213377104
makes me laugh reading older texts where they do this, talk about reading like it's being sat in front of the tube all day.

(Marcus Aurelius, Tom Sawyer, i could go on.)

>>213377047
>>213377107
This dude knows what he talks about. Me and the homies at summer camp studied naps once (long days of cooking for +-200 kids and daydrinking) through rigerous experimentation we scientifically found out that the perfect nap is about a 30min rest without actually falling asleep. If you fall asleep and then have to wake up and continue working its the worst thing in the world. If you're so tired you know a nap will put you to sleep its always better to soldier on or go to bed early cause the nap will do more harm than good.

>>213377132
M Aurelius talks about reading as if it's like wasting time watching tv? I don't remember that.

>>213371615 (OP)
>>213371624
dumb samefaggot

>>213372319
>back then if a kid got cancer it was curtains, which is why they went ahead and had 6 of them.
damn millenials with their avocado toast and cancer treatments

>>213376800
No it's literally rubber.
>>213376369
Lovely.

>>213377909
>30min rest without actually falling asleep.
I find this to be true as well, when I was working double shifts I used to just close my eyes while I sat for a while, every few minutes I'd drift between waking and being half asleep, I'd usually end up energized.

>>213376800
I looked it up, apparently it's often made of recycled tires or shoes. I distinctly remember it being some pale reddish color and not rubber tiles since it was just one big layer instead of interlocking bits.

Nvm I found exactly what it was made of : COLORFLEX system, EPDM safe flooring, they just pour the stuff onto a surface.

>>213372014
We gave them alcohol until they said yes.

>>213374041
I came inside her today!

>>213371615 (OP)
>before
What did we do after they were invented? I can barely remember how I survived in the late 80s/90s/early 00s before DSL/cable internet and more importantly before p2p and torrenting to download shows. Like we would just come home and channel surf for 5 hours until bedtime, maybe finding 2 hours of shows actually worth watching? How is that possible?

>>213371615 (OP)
Old time genre fiction books like king Solomon’s mines and H Ridder haggard stuff were the Marvel movies of their time, hence why when actual movies were invented these books completely lost popularity because the plebs had an even more dumbed down mode of entertainment.

I'm going to build a time machine and go back in time and see if people really woke up and did shit in the middle of the night when they were restless and if you ass clowns were lying to me there'll be hell to pay.