>"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA I AM LE EVIL!!!!!!!!! HUH WHY? BECAUSE..................BECAUSE I JUST AM OKAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

This is considered good writing by Filoniwars fags???

>>213402292 (OP)
Pretty sure he said why.

Also, just say you hate actual Star Wars. No need for cringe "le good writing" buzzword, as if you have some pretense of real criticism and objectivity.

>>213402450
Sheev was not evil, he turned to the Dark Side because he needed this power to save the Galaxy from yuuzhan vong invasion. That's why Death star was built

>>213402292 (OP)
He could've been an interesting character who felt something was off about the clones but no, he was just working for the bad guys or something.

>>213403063
>My retarded head cannon material is better than your retarded head cannon material
It's terminal, son

>>213403447
Yuuzhan vongs were in extended universe canon before the fucking disney came and ruined star wars.

>>213403470
It wasn't in the movies so it doesn't matter.

>>213403063
>>213403470
Retarded fanfiction that completely misses the point of the original trilogy and invalidates it just as bad as disney shitquels. Kill yourself.

>>213402450
filonislop isnt real star wars

>>213403559
This is not fanfiction it was officially sold under star wars brand you moron

>>213403658
Yeah, no one here is discussing Rebels/Bad Batch/Ahsoka.

>>213403684
Licensed fanfiction, who cares? If it's not made by George Lucas, the creator of Star Wars, then it's fanfiction by definition. He said as much: licensing is not to be taken seriously as far as the real story of Star Wars goes.

>>213403063
Fan theory that has never been confirmed.

>>213402292 (OP)
is this Glup Shitto? I don't watch star wars cartoons

>>213402292 (OP)
Its realistic.

Most irl bad people, like Trump, Musk, Hitler etc. dont have some tragic backstory explaining why they are evil, they were just born this way.

>>213403784
Hitler became evil because be grew constantly having to evade time traveling assassins during his childhood

>>213402292 (OP)
what do you expect from filoni, the guy is a faggot coomer retard
everything he touches turns into liquid dogshit

>>213402292 (OP)
It’s a cartoon for babies

>>213402292 (OP)
>Every villain needs an edgy origin story

>>213403746
So Star Wars cant be created without Georg Lucas?

>>213403784
Hitler definitely has a tragic backstory though, he had a pretty damn tough life. Musk and Trump have no excuses though I agree, they are just scumbags.

>>213405029
evidently

how many more slop needs to be produced for people to finally accept that fact?

>>213402292 (OP)
Some people really are just evil because they're bored and they find it fun to ruin things. Once you're old enough you'll understand. And no I'm not talking about le drumpf or hitler or clinton or shit like that, I mean there are normal everyday people who are innately evil.

>>213405029
Yeah. Star Wars was always an amalgamation of the things that he liked and his autistic personality quirks. It was an auteur indie project that he single-handedly created in his head. If you remove Lucas from Star Wars, you remove its soul, and what you're left with is just something that has similar aesthetics. 99% of the EU and Disney Star Wars being utter shit is proof enough.

>>213405447
What are you talking about the EU was great. The Thrawn trilogy is absolute gold, all the games and comics were amazing.

>>213405561
>What are you talking about the EU was great
LMAO no it wasn't. just because disney keeps making a worse version of the EU doesn't mean the EU was good

it was nothing but glorified licensed fanfic

>>213405730
Filoni wars had Lucas and it's worse than 90% of the EU

>>213405561
99% of it was derivative, creatively bankrupt shit that didn't feel like Star Wars at all. What's worse, most of it fundamentally did not understand the themes of Star Wars and how it worked. Force-blocking lizards from the Thrawn trilogy you mentioned or Luke marrying are some of the most notable examples, and that is what lauded as "good". No, it isn't.

>>213405791
whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night

>>213405806
>99% of it was derivative, creatively bankrupt shit that didn't feel like Star Wars at all
THIS

they turned the mandalorians into a bunch of boba fett cosplayers. lucas fortunately got rid of all that and returned to his original idea for them

then, as soon as lucas was out, disney turned them back into the boba fett fanclub

>>213402292 (OP)
This dude was 100 percent correct about the clones though. Did the galaxy a service by killing as many as he could before order 66

>>213405878
Yeah, I've noticed many times how Disney ignored what Lucas established and returned to the old EU ideas to pander the crowd.

>>213405956
palpatine returns, qui-gon appears as a force ghost, luke doesn't restore the jedi, leia doesn't become chancellor, ventress isn't dead, etc, etc.

Story would have been a thousand times better if he was just a massive hardliner Jedi that the Clones and Rex eventually had to frag because he was just ordering suicide attacks one after the other

I don't think that would ever happen though since Lucas still had control of the show and he's a massive fucking autist when it comes to the Jedi being portrayed as "bad"/dark side without them being cartoonishly motivated and/or traitors

>be Jedi
>literally stumble into buying a meat puppet slave army
>then get upset when one of the generals is using them as disposable people
>despite them literally being disposable people without rights
>"NO HE'S HECKIN EVIL THOUGH"
>"oh send in another ten thousand to Utapau, which is just a literal distraction to get Kenobi to capture Grievous, it doesn't matter"

>>213406446
>be Jedi
>stumbles into a meat puppet slave army
>republic buys army
>jedi are recruited by republic to lead and serve alongside meat puppet slave army
>both are used as tools for bad guy
>fallen jedi foresees the downfall and wants out
>starts to compromise from the inside in the hopes of bad guy to notice him and recruit him

>>213406551
Lot more words to just say the exact same thing I did, I guess. Yes, they are hypocrites.

>>213406574
>the exact same thing
>a different thing altogether

>>213406610
Well you executed it poorly? Idk what you want me to say. Your actual point is fucking retarded because that doesn't make the Jedi LESS hypocritical.

>>213406754
>hypocritical
you don't even know the meaning of the word

>>213406787
The Jedi using a meat puppet army without regard to their rights or emotions while also giving that general shit for treating them like disposable people makes them hypocrites, yes autist.

>>213406805
>The Jedi
kek since when is palpatine a jedi? did you even watch star wars?

>>213406874
Are you illiterate and confusing posts?

>>213406805
>The Jedi using a meat puppet army without regard to their rights or emotions
Palpatine/Dooku created the clones and the Senate legalized and authorized their use. Jedi had literally no say in the matter. Palpatine and the Senate conscripted the Jedi into the military and assigned them as generals. Jedi cared about their troops, recognized their humanity, and never wasted their lives needlessly. Jedi were good leaders, and clones likewise respected them and relied on them.

>>213406987
>it's ok to use clones if someone ELSE ordered them
what are you not following?

>>213406987
>good leaders
being an actual peacekeeper of truth and justice would mean you protest and NOT agree to having a meat puppet army that's against your religion.

>>213406987
>Palpatine/Dooku created the clones and the Senate legalized and authorized their use. Jedi had literally no say in the matter
hey, looks like someone here watched the movies. unfortunately you're replying to someone who hasn't

>>213407162
Are you both genuinely ESL?

>>213407160
>being an actual peacekeeper of truth and justice would mean you protest and NOT agree to having a meat puppet army that's against your religion
living beings (or what you call "meat puppet") are not against the Jedi way

>>213407113
Clones would have been used regardless, and it was outside of Jedi's power to prevent it. Jedi were likewise conscripted. They could not refuse. They have a duty before the Republic as its protectors. If the Jedi hadn't stepped up, someone like Tarkin would, and he would just send the clones into endless meat waves suicide attacks, without any regard for their lives, treating them as soulless tools. Jedi did the best out of the terrible situation they were in. You are clearly not following the basic premise of Star Wars. These movies are meant to be understood by children. Jedi are the good guys and the heroes.

>How dare these mystical monks, who could just as well seclude themselves away from the galaxy, get caught in a scheme a thousand years in the making?
>By not helping everyone even more they are at least as bad as the sith and deserved to be killed!
I don't understand how people to this day get filted by Star Wars or rather to their moral relativist believes, but it happens in practically every SW thread.

>>213407210
at this point I'm just going to smile politely at you

>>213407222
It literally is against the OT Jedi code to use meat slaves lol because the prequels are retarded and George doesn't understand his own lore.

>>213407256
>filted
hello saar, it's more that the Jedi in the prequels are inconsistent with the Jedi in the OT timeline and it's almost like they are two different orders.

>>213407240
nooo! you can't have clear morality tales that inspire. everything must be morally relative and gray and miserable. that's what everyone needs to face the adversities of the world

>>213402292 (OP)
I have no idea what ur pic is. But I fucking hate this new-age zoomer mentality that every character MUST be morally grey and every villain actually has muh emotional backstory and muh motivations. Fuck off. Bad guy is evil and wants to inflict evil and gain power. That's it. All you need. Evil for the sake of evil exists everywhere in real life.

>>213407345
>good is a point of view Anakin
>it's only natural. he cut off your arm, you wanted revenge
the bad guys professes moral relativism? it's almost as if lucas is saying that moral relativism is evil.

>>213407337
Not everyone who makes a typo is Indian.
But could the differences maybe lie in the fact that in the OT "the Order" are two guilt ridden old men?

>>213407256
>who could just as well seclude themselves away from the galaxy
ah, yes, seclusion is a good way to uphold peace and justice in the galaxy. there's a problem? better to hide away
you got what you wanted with the disney movies though

>>213407466
No it's that George can't write and he's inconsistent

>>213407540
Unfortunately for you, his movies prove the opposite.

>>213407160
>>213407305
>>213407337
Being a peacekeeper means also being a protector when the duty calls. They protected the Republic and its people from the hordes of mindless murderous robots, genocidal maniacs warlords, corporate overlords and Sith Lords. It's their holy duty. In fact, that's the whole point that the clones were people, because the Jedi could then connect with them and influence them, teach them, help them, form bonds with them:
>GEORGE LUCAS: The Jedi won't lead droids. Their whole basis is connecting with the life force. They'd just say, 'That's not the way we operate. We don't function with nonlife-forms." So if there is to be a Republic army, it would have to be an army of humans.
Because that's what the Jedi do.

War is not good. War is not desirable. Wars do not make one great, as Yoda said. They did not start that war. It was engineered by Palpatine and Dooku. But sometimes, it's a duty. It's a Jedi's duty to protect those in need. And they answered the call. Jedi's only fault was caring too much and not being omnipotent and omniscient.

You are really dense or try too hard.

>>213407305
I don’t recall the OT ever detailing a Jedi code

>>213407564
>Being a peacekeeper means also being a protector when the duty calls
'duty' and 'honor0 are foreign concepts to him. don't bother trying to explain what's pretty evident

>>213407558
Lol no they don't faggot, the prequels exist and I have eyeballs

>>213407584
See you used to be able to infer, based on context, what a narrative is trying to SAY about something and you can (if you aren't retarded) piece together what their Code is from the original trilogy without much trouble and moreover, you can probably figure out what they would be against. ESB Yoda does a good job of this, because prequel Yoda makes no sense.

>>213407564
Yup, you have autism. Missed the entire point.

>>213407305
"You fought in the Clone Wars"?
~Luke Skywalker, Star Wars, 1977

You are a retard

>>213407702
You have no point. You're just fishing for (You)s. Jedi's were established as warriors and guardians of the Republic in 1977. You're a fucking retard.

>>213405806
I dont know if this is trolling, Mara Jade is high quality SW content, the whole trilogy is as good as the movies.

>>213407729
>we were guardians of peace
>never use the force for attack
>your physical self is crude matter
>size doesn't matter
>The Dark Side isn't stronger, you just allow it to corrupt you and you need to train your mind
where in fucking any of this from the OT do you get that they were foot soldiers who spin around with their lightsabers?

>>213405806
>Luke marrying
>did not understand the themes of Star Wars and how it worked.
You're retarded

>>213407775
They were called Knights, anon. They were a cross between nomadic monks, the Samurai and Templar Knights. I know you are autistic and think knights just "le fight" but that wasn't the point of the Jedi, George said this.

>>213405060
>get beaten by your dad into
>world war one into
>get rejected from art school into
>get sent to spy on the far right into
>become the supreme leader or all Germans into
>lose world war two and everything
One of these days time enough will have passed that we can have a tragedy based on his life story that is allowed to be emphathic to one of the men with the worst luck of all time.

There's so many points in his life where if something doesn't go wrong he just lives a happy life.

>>213407795
>where in fucking any of this from the OT do you get that they were foot soldiers who spin around with their lightsabers?
In the very simple line, and try to follow me on this one:
"YOU FOUGHT IN THE CLONE WARS"

>>213407870
>he just had bad luck bro
dude his art fucking sucked and he was a drugged out schizo.

>>213407884
You know, maybe getting injured fighting the worst war of all time at that point figures into it, maybe just maybe.

>>213407875
What does Luke know? All Kenobi confirms is that he was a Jedi Knight like his father during the Clone Wars, autismo. Kenobi then goes on to clarify what that means, then Yoda comes along in the second one and you can assume what they were were peacekeepers during the war and not active participants in it.

But I'm not retarded and brain rotted by how poorly made the prequels are.

>>213402292 (OP)
This guy wouldn't be a Jedi, he's already far gone. This would be noticed by the other Jedi as well.

>>213402292 (OP)
Yeah, I really didn't like the conclusion of this arc. It's weird to because I don't think he even needed some sort of explanation, he just needed to be dialed back. He could have just been an asshole general who viewed the clones as objects or even outright abominations and willingly made them suffer to teach them a perceived lesson. But throwing in the sort of more grand evil stuff was fucking stupid, especially when they threw in the overplayed "I had a vision" shit to justify it.

>>213403784
>hitler
>evil
Very 1 sided perspective

>>213407916
>hijacking your country and murdering millions of your own countrymen was just because he was heckin shell shocked bro
Fuck off retard.

>>213407962
I'm not saying he's blameless. But you seriously look at his life and think you'd fare any better, you're taking the piss.

>>213407925
You're now rewriting canon to conform to your retarded headcanon. The exact thing Disney does. I get why you're so retarded now.

>>213408010
He wasn't drafted in Austria, he didn't have to go. His art was just bad, he didn't have to pursue a serious career in it. He wasn't poor compared to other kids in his town, he had a decent home life.

He brought upon himself all the shit he went through, how am I supposed to be sympathetic? He was a delusional faggot who used the war to confirm his biases about the world because he felt Europe owed him fame and glory, he says as much in his book. Just a deluded egotist.

>>213402292 (OP)
>I hate you and want you to die
>why?
>just dont like ya
based

>>213408025
>rewriting
fuck me anon, you don't even know of a world that existed before the prequels so you fundamentally don't understand how narratively inconsistent the two trilogies are.

>>213408065
You're just describing a German anon.

>>213408010
>you see, anyone would just go on a genocidal killing spree! He was le sad

>>213408113
I'm honest enough to myself to admit I would.

give me a fleshed out morally greybo relatable post moorcock justified originerino for this guy no one cares about STAT

>>213408142
Then you should seek help

>>213408147
No, I don't think I will.

>>213408176
K good chat.

>directed by Walter Murch, the editor of Apocalypse Now, Godfather, American Graffiti and THX 1138
Kino.

>>213408565
The end of this episode where they figure out they were firing at each other really was fucking kino for a SW cartoon show.