This is one of the greatest shows of the last decade and no one has seen it.
What happened?

>>213442748 (OP)
it lost cultural relevance for some reason

It's not good only season one is good and it's only good because of the concept the cast and the cinematography
it's not a good story. It's not well written. The characters are not very interesting.
Season two is extremely gay and annoying and season three is a farce
the people who act like this show is good do not have good taste.
Also the music is cringe and gay.

ending was literally LISTEN AND BELIEVE WOMEN YOU CIS CHUD

>>213442783
It became more relevant than ever after 2020.
The juxtaposition between this show and the covid 19 pandemic is uncanny.

>>213442788
trash opinion.
thats a the biggest load of horse shit ive seen someone say all week.

The problem with Lindelof shows like this is that it's just spinning, there's no ...point to any of it. It could've gone on for 10 more seasons in the same tone and still say nothing of substance.
It's just an endless string of emotional hooks and people having mental breakdowns with some vague mystery shit peppered throughout.
And they had sufficient production values that it looked super polished, but it's still a nothingburger.

Same with that Watchmen show he did. Yeah super great, many awards, wow amazing, etc... and it again is completely devoid of any substance. Almost like an exercise in writing.

Lindelof simply doesn't get, on some fundamental level, that people want things to make a point. It's like someone telling you a great story, really selling it and making the story engaging but instead of finishing it up the story just keeps going and going and then it ends on "well, anyway..."

>>213442916
yeah you probably think the maudlin piano loops are emotional because youre a retard
you probably think margaret qualley is likable

>>213442955
not a single thing you just said is an actual criticism that makes the show bad.
what in hearing is that you are a bitter miserable person and you can't enjoy anything so you make up silly little reasons.

>>213443075
Season one only works because of the concept, the cast, and the cinematography. That’s just the surface. The actual writing is hollow. The story goes nowhere. It’s grief porn stretched into a show with no real arc or purpose.

The characters aren’t even characters. They’re just weird metaphors that barely act like people. Nobody behaves like a human being, they just wander around acting moody so reddit can call it deep.

Season two turns into self-indulgent, smug, artsy bullshit. Total tonal shift, annoying as hell, thinks it’s profound but it’s literally nonsense. Season three is full-on parody of itself. It doesn’t even try anymore. They knew they had nothing left.

The music is corny. Fake emotional piano loops that are there to tell brain-dead viewers when to feel sad. It’s manipulative and lazy.

You’re just mad because I didn’t cry when the sad priest lost his dog. That’s the level you’re on. You think confusing and depressing equals good. You think Margaret Qualley acting like a feral raccoon makes her interesting. You think trauma = plot.

It’s not that deep. It’s just bad television pretending to be meaningful.

>>213442788
this desu
I see people praising S2 and 3 but to me season 1 was the best, that city had cooler atmosphere
too much romance, not enough focus on mystery

>>213442748 (OP)
I've seen season 1. It's mid.

>>213443199
It's one of those shows that honed in on whatever type of person would become a fanatic for it and started pandering to them quickly. It's a good example of what not to do with something that could've been good. Damon Lindelof only gets to keep his career because he's Jewish.

>>213443207
"its mid" is not a valid criticism. season 1 was awesome.
you didnt even finish the show so how could you possibly know what the FUCK you're talking about?

>>213443172
I agree with this guy.

it's very vague and mysterious and has lots of emotional impact forced on you by the soundtrack. i watched the whole thing in a week or 2 and it hit me at the right time. i tried to rewatch it to capture that feeling again but got bored half way through the first season.

>>213442748 (OP)
>This is one of the greatest shows of the last decade
No you’ve just been spamming it for the last decade.

>>213443282
"season 1 was awesome" is not a valid criticism either

>>213442918
>It could've gone on for 10 more seasons in the same tone and still say nothing of substance.
>>213443172
>Season one only works because of the concept, the cast, and the cinematography.

Maybe the first season was so great because that is what the original author put out? After that Lindelof was on his own again.

The guy was also much more memed back in the day.

so the concensus im getting from this comment section so far is that this show didnt succeed because audiences are too brain dead.
perhaps some marvel movies are more to your liking?

>>213443397
ok so explain how its bad then.

>>213443441
this show is like a marvel movie anon it requires just as little thought and engagement

>>213443482
no

>>213443172
the mystery is that there is no mystery. it's not deep, you're overanalyzing it like a smug redditor. it is sad and emotional, the music is there to emphasis this, you're just too much of jaded piece of shit to appreciate it. aren't you smart. too intelligent to be "manipulated" by a piece of art. good for you.

>>213442857
the final episode is more of an epilogue; the penultimate episode is the real finale

>>213443508
low effort bait

>>213443521
thats because you can't

>>213443531

>one in every 10 people disappear with no trace
>there is no mystery

>>213443531
>you’re too jaded to cry at fake emotions orchestrated by a spotifycore piano loop!

bro I’m sorry the dog scene rocked your world but im not giving gold stars for trauma porn.

i watched it while it was airing, it's a little pseudo intellectual and relies too much on shock gimmicks but i liked it a lot. i rewatched it last year and it didn't hold up. also you shouldn't look her for people to validate your taste, this board is full of people who only post when they've got something negative to say. unironically try reddit for actual discussion.

I watched this shitty show because people said if you like Lost you'll like this.
Bullshit.

>>213443652
>i want to be mad for no reason

ok buddy

>>213443576
>thats because you can't
I would if you asked nicely

>>213443642
don’t look for validation on 4chan he says after watching the leftovers twice and getting hurt that someone didn’t cry with him
incredible

>>213443678
cool deflection. the show sucks and you still took that personally.

>>213443613
i don't mean literally. it's never resolved, it never really mattered. it was just a thing that happened and we have to accept it like the characters.
>>213443624
i don't even remember what dog scene you're talking about. also "trauma porn" is such a reddit expression. maybe drop the irony and disillusion for half a second and you might be surprised you're capable of sincerity instead of being a cynical faggot.

>>213443709
so many trash opinions in this thread.
I think I'm outgrowing this site.

>>213443652
>You'll like X, it's like Z!
A line often parroted by people who've only seen like 5 shows.
The show's insufferably mediocre, I think the only episode I liked was the one where Nora goes to that conference, from what I remember it feels like the one episode where you get a little slice of how miserable life's actually been after the whole rapture thing. I kept watching it because I've heard everyone praise the International Assassin episode like it's the second coming of christ. Finished it, decided to drop the show then and there. Last time I'm listening to these so called "best shows of time!!" reddt-tier lists.

>>213442748 (OP)
I love it.

>>213444451
I've seen this show praised on /tv/ for years and now for some reason there's a bunch of losers crying in this thread.
Wtf happened?
Where did all this unwarranted cynicism come from?
This is 28 Years Later all over again.
is the mass influx of Gen Alpha turning 18 whats caused this mass influx of retarded posts lately?

It was good, but it had a beginning, middle and end. Once the central mystery is resolved, that's all there is to say about it. It's like talking about a twilight zone episode for 20 years. There's only so much that can be said.

>>213442748 (OP)
this reminded me i never watched the final episode for some reason

>>213444739
yeah but this show doesnt get praised or even talked about the same way breaking bad, game of thrones, true detective does.

>>213444803
because its nowhere near that level of quality?

>>213442748 (OP)
>this spam again
That evil shit is not a show, it is an advertisement
Kill yourself
>>213442783
>it lost cultural relevance
That implies it ever had any

>>213444830
You're right. It's better than those shows.

>>213444970
what are you yapping about?

>>213444789
it's pretty good

>>213442748 (OP)
The first season was a bit though to get into, I almost dropped it after the second episode, it's also a lot of talking for example I wouldn't know how to sell it to my gf and it would probably over her head.
To me that show is a masterpiece.

>its a matt episode

>>213445172
>KINO
>KINO
>KINO
>KINO

>>213445172
I could have done without seeing his penis

>>213442788
this guy is right on every point
t. dropped s2 halfway

>>213445292
yeah that scene was completely unecessary.

Like all modern shows it is ruined by having too many people involved. Too many characters by too many writers because they think diversity increases engagement. Instead, the interesting character is only in one episode then you have to wade through garbage. And of course morality is completely absent.
In this case the evil cult gets to run around completely unchecked. What the fuck?
Second season goes even further away from the characters introducing a flood of niggers that had nothing to do with anything. Couldn't watch further.

It's yet another interesting premise used to trojan horse garbage character drama like 99% of sci-fi. Pisses me off every time.

>>213445325
>I didn't watch this but I have an opinion about it for some reason.

>>213445455
Do you even know what a tv show is?

>>213442748 (OP)
You have to have an IQ over 105 to like it. Almost no one here qualifies. They'd rather pretend to be hollywood accountants and talk about how much money the latest capeshit is making.

>>213442748 (OP)
I’ve gotta agree with people in here - season 1 was my favourite season. I liked the Mapleton setting the most with Kevin as police chief and the whole Garvey family split into different factions. I wish season 2 continued with a similar context.

With season 2 it felt like the plot dragged along until episode 6. I just didn’t like the way they structured the episodes in season 2 and 3 where you’d get an episode ending on a cliffhanger related to Kevin’s story, immediately followed by one or two episodes completely focusing on Laurie or Tom or Matt. I found that it frustratingly halted the tempo of the story.
I felt like the Murphy family was just “there” and meant to fill time when the plot isn’t focused on Kevin.

That being said, the back-half of season 2 was probably the peak of the show for me. Kevin’s delusions reaching a climax, the “afterlife” sequences, the Evie revelation, and of course the Homeward Bound scene was pure kino.

Season 3 was a fun season even if it was imperfect. G’Day Melbourne might be my favourite episode of the show because of how they played around with Kevin’s delusions and the culmination of his shallow relationship with Nora. Kevin Sr’s paranoia about the impending apocalypse was entertaining, and Matt’s small cult surrounding Kevin Jr’s supposed immortality.

I posted my thoughts about the finale in a thread here last night. I understand that the idea is to shift your focus to moving on from the Departure instead of hanging on to the trauma it caused, but I just didn’t like that premise. It wasn’t a bad finale, just underwhelming.

>>213446043
sad but true. I also think this show isnt talked about because it actually shines religion in a positive light in some scenes.
it doesnt fit the anti christian narratives that hollywood loves to push.

>>213442748 (OP)
>What happened?
It's not based on something from the 1980s

>>213446117
this

>>213442748 (OP)
A bunch of retards can't get over the fact that Lindelof cucked them with LOST, so they won't watch anything he's involved in. Really petty low class behavior.

Season 1 felt like it was missing something that was going to be found in the next season then Season 2 did an unnecessary 180 on the entire plot just so Season 3 could be the most boring nothing burger of all time then the last two episodes were pure kino and kind of redeemed everything else in my eyes

>>213442748 (OP)
Season 3 was the gayest shit I have ever watched; please jump off the nearest building.

>>213442748 (OP)
>supposedly a mere 2% of population vanishes
>show depicts it as if 90% vanished
>every character leftover is psychotic
so the event never happened - mystery solved
not a great show

>>213442748 (OP)
you got Lindelof'ed, again.

>>213442748 (OP)
>Lindelslop
You are a brainlet

>>213442748 (OP)
Written by Damon Lindelof is what happened

>>213445325
>>213442788
this

>>213442748 (OP)
top 3-5 shows ever
>>213442857

final episode is for the audience
we needed that
>>213443172
>a show with no real arc or purpose
you got filtered
>>213443207
you never watched season 1
>>213443359
indeed
>>213443441
The problem with the show is that it's not aimed at an entertainment audience. Lindelof played with suffering, loss, denial, cynicism, hypocrisy, self-deception, using a child as a way to fix a relationship, cheating on your partner, and questioning your faith. Literally, the central couple are two emotionally broken people trying to move on publicly but deep down, wanting to end their lives. People don't want to look in the mirror. They prefer the misadventures of a chemistry teacher who decides to become a drug dealer, or the misadventures of a bad lawyer who can convince people, or the misadventures of someone who decides to separate their consciousness so they don't know what's going on at work, or the misadventures of mentally retarded nepo babies. Audiences want to see the suffering of others, not a reflection of their lives.
This is why people who actually watched The Leftovers consider it one of the best series of all time. Because it doesn't aim to reach a goal, it's just the development of broken characters in an incomplete world.

>mom walks in

>>213443199
>not enough focus on mystery
it tells you right from the start to let the mystery be

Am I late to the party or do people know that you can see someone congratulating a pregnant Mary at her room in the first afterlife episode

>>213442748 (OP)
I enjoyed the first season but found it kind of boring in season 2/3

its fucking shit. dont listen to OP, he's probably some redditfaggot that has no taste at all.

>>213443784
>a mystery is only a mystery if it’s resolved
>second and third season intros are cats being beaten in a sack talking about let the mystery be

>>213443441
the premise is for one a no-brainer, people die in the same amount every year, but its not news nor tragic. they treat this like some divine event just because they didnt know what happened, who fucking gives a shit. reverse it and only make it so 2% are left alive, then theres some tension. its literally a non-issue. fake-drama

>>213442748 (OP)
Damon Lindelof is a fucking hack.
LOST started the career of a whole lot of hacks who it took about 15 years for them to finally lose steam

>>213448306

you're fucking retarded and autistic. do you have any family or just waiting to die alone!

>>213448241
you didnt watch it

>>213448390
just because youre too stupid to grasp that this is a fake non issue, doesnt mean i'm autistic. how often do you think about covid today? when are you demanding explanation for that? and thats not a fucking mystery, its fucking man made. dumbass niggerbrain

>>213442918
>It's just an endless string of emotional hooks and people having mental breakdowns with some vague mystery shit peppered throughout.
Tbh, that's exponentially better than what we're getting now.
Shit stories with shit characters with zero emotion.

>>213448497
>Shit stories with shit characters with zero emotion.
the shit from yesterday doesnt smell better just because todays shit is fresh. its still shit.

>>213446043
You need an iq of about exactly 105 to enjoy it. You need to be stupid enough to see that it has nothing and smart enough to soiface at it telling you it has nothing.

So she lied right? She didn't get to the alternate reality she just made it up to ease him?

>>213443172
>Season three is full-on parody of itself
The joke here is the best bits of season 2 were unintentionally hilarious bits like
>justin Theroux goes to magical negro to have a near death experience
>magical negro gives him a poison cocktail and promises to bring him back with an adrenaline shot
>justin drinks the shit, convulses a bit, and dies
>magical metro sprays the adrenaline shot on the floor and shoots himself in the face
>episode ends

>the retarded psychiatrist pulls a woman out of the cult
>woman asks okay now what
>uh just take it one day at a time
>she drives her entire family into oncoming traffic on an interstate

>justin Theroux magically wakes up from being gut shot
>stumbling around, eventually finds liv tyler and her group just sitting in the towns little stupid museum
>he’s happy to see her, smiles, laughs, says what’re you doing here
>they all stand up and start singing the town’s retarded anthem at him
>they finish and he just chuckles and stumbles off the side of the screen

The show takes itself so seriously it becomes comedic, then in season 3 Lindelof tries to be comedic and it’s just flat and inane.

>>213442748 (OP)
it's a boring soap opera relationship drama

>>213448934
>please tell me what to think

>>213448306
The premise is defensible. The show isn’t. Do you really understand why things you love have to die? Is there ever a satisfying answer? At some point you just accept that shit sucks, you never really understand you just decide to stop thinking about it. Now get rid of “cause of death.”

>>213449361
It’s more that the ending was intentionally written to spur debate.

>>213449372
>The premise is defensible. The show isn’t.
well, no i dont agree. people dont give a shit about wars, famine and disease in general, why would they care about something supposedly divine? they'd forget in a year or two because theyre cattle. its a non-premise.

>>213448934
If you ask the author, she’s lying.
If you ask Lindelof, she’s telling the truth.

>>213449468
The poster I replied to is practically asking for permission to have his own opinion

>>213449555
It’s not random browns dying in a shithole on the other side of the world, it’s either your loved ones or the loved ones of someone you know just being deleted from existence. The idea is if the yearly death toll was just instantly slapped down evenly distributed across the planet most people wouldn’t be able to handle it.

This isn’t defending the show, or even the book, just the premise. The show could’ve been good had it not been written by Damon Lindelof.

Great premise but like some said about Lindelof and Lost it had little payoff. The weird thing should've been the weird thing that there was a rapture and people have to deal with it. Making alternate realities and weird hallucinations with none of it being explained is stupid. I enjoyed it for the vibes like I have enjoyed David Lynch's film Inland Empire. You can't draw true meaning from it because nothing is actually explained and it's all open to interpretation. It'll have moments that hit you with strong emotion but there's no meaning or lesson. A great show should take you on a journey like an acid trip it shouldn't be like Cocaine where you look back and wonder what the hell just happened

>>213449621
The point is there is no reason to have an opinion either way. The entire point was to create divisive opinions.

is it a show about a restaurant?

>>213442788
Low IQ opinion

Music is one of the strongest pieces

Season 1 and 3 were perfect. Season 2 was mediocre but had its 10/10 episodes

>>213442788
>>213443172

these posts share my opinion

HOOOOOMEWARD BOUND
>I WISH I WAS

>>213450090
This is one of the very rare occasions were that idiotic bell-curve maymay is accurate. Low iq, it sucks. High iq, it sucks. middling iq, omg so dramatic struggle against the author orchestrating these shitty situations wow

>>213450148
Probably the best scene in the entire show.

>>213442748 (OP)
not a lot of people will watch [prestige show] unless they have a specific reason or it's insanely popular like BB
Leftovers is in my top 5 shows of all time.

>>213450388
nah

this was the show of the decade

>>213442788
>Also the music is cringe and gay.
people who don't like classical and neo-classical are typically stupid. it's music that is rewarding to the intelligent, active listener. i bet you're probably a fan of rap if i had to guess. or worse, lo-fi playlists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS0fGS6D_JI

>>213446254
i feel like s2 is a natural extension of s1. s1 has mysterious, unexplainable things. season 2 has more of the same.
season 3 is the season that subverts expectations. seemingly strange and supernatural things have mundane explanations. the matt episode is a standout as always.

>>213444632
Never even heard of this show but you sound like a fag.

>tfw you're not kevin
>tfw no aimee
>tfw no pity handjob from jill
I love this show though, re watch it every year when I get bored of family guy, S1 is really cozy. still need to see lost though.

>>213452488
>still need to see lost though.
no, you don't. The Leftovers is the only good thing Lindelof has been involved in. the reason is pic related. Lindelof can produce kino when he's paired with a heavyweight. his butt buddies are not a good influence and bring out the worst in him.

>>213442748 (OP)
reddit coded

>>213453486
learn to form your own opinion, retard

>>213453536
mad redditor

>>213453683
i've never posted on reddit, retard

>>213453536
zoomers are retards who just regurgitate opinions they see online and they don't know how to speak so they say made up baby words they read online.

>>213452013
>>213452048
>>213452078
>>213452134
I like this actor. I can't remember her name but she was kino in Deadwood and House of Cards too. Cutie

>>213454670
you're thinking of a different lady but they're both very pretty

>>213454792
Yea damn I must've confused them. Carey Coon the one in Leftovers was in Gone Girl and Fargo so I'd seen her in that before but yea wires crossed

>>213454670
Carrie Coon, she's very hot and talented. and yeah she wasn't in either of those.

>>213448934
It's exactly why the ending is kino, both can be true, we don't know and we will never know.

>>213442748 (OP)
>le broody and depressed = good

>>213448934
the character considers herself the arbiter of hard truth, never compromising, never wavering. at the end she tells an absurd story about an unlikely journey where she found her peace and salvation.
it's not about the truthiness of the story, obviously it's not truthful. the show makes a lot of effort to imply she backed out at the last minute. but kevin has always, in his heart of hearts, been a believer. so in a way, the story is for him: this is why she was gone. she didn't abandon him callously for 3 decades; she was busy. and now she's back, with him.

>>213455822
i'd also just like to point out that, had nora gone through with it, she would be dead, essentially an act of suicide, because what the scientists are selling is total madness. but people believe made things when something unexplainable, like the departure happens.
the remnant cult is depicted as secular meddlers, but they are believers in something. what they believe is, by definition, unspoken. but no one goes to all that trouble with religious conviction in their hearts.
when the one lady is being stoned, she loses her faith because it's predicated on so little. it's predicated on the abolition of faith. but they still kill her.
lots of stuff to think over with this show.

>>213455398
>scenario writer doesn't want to piss off anyone
boring

>>213447993
>IT'S THERAPY MOM

>>213444803
I think its one of the best shows of all time but I dont bring it up because, as you can see from this very thread, most people are fucking retarded and get filtered by it

>>213452488
Kek....SO WHAT HAPPENED HERE?? Did they...

>>213442748 (OP)
The cult shit was cringe and why I never finished season 1

I didn't expect the jesus of our time element and it seems a bit tacked on?

>>213442748 (OP)
that's the reddit show right?