What the FUCK happened here?
>>213465587 (OP)Literally only gay men find left appealing.
>>213465587 (OP)Snyder brutally mogged weak pedo man.
>>213465660But the current US president was associated with Epstein too so it's okay
>>213465587 (OP)I complained about the gunman costume but seeing them side by side here holy shit at least it wasn't the Snyderman one.
>>213465638Who finds right appealing?
>>213465682Cope Gunn pedo
>>213465705How did we go from Superman to WalMartMan?
>>213465587 (OP)was there even a shot of superman 2025 breaking his handcuffs or being released from them? he has them on in the real world and has them off in the pocket universe
>>213465756Nah he just walks into the pocket dimension like a complete retard.
He's a major retard in this movie despite three years of experience acting like a child with bad temper.
Snyder Superman
>Superman was never real. Just a farmer's dream from Kansas
Gunn Superman
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T JUST TORTURE THE DICTATOR OF NOT-RUSSIA?!?!?! LOIS YOU'RE A DUMB BIIIITCH
>>213465834>Superman was never realWho killed Zod, then?
>>213465870It's called talking in a figurative sense. You ever heard of that?
>>213465587 (OP)>remove red shorts because not serious>but make sure his bulge is very noticaebleClassic Zack
>>213465587 (OP)Literally the only reason Superman 2025 has fans is because leftist normies love the anti-Israel message, that's it. Ask them why they liked this movie and it's guaranteed to be the first thing they bring up. Superman didn't even save the wholesome Palestinians in this, the bowl cut gang did
>>213465834>>Superman was never real. Just a farmer's dream from KansasHow was it John's dream if he was deadset on Clark flying under the radar, having a tantrum that he didn't want to be a farmer, etc.?
>>213465993Yeah but audiences loved MoS way more than supershit so it obviously would have outperformed superscum directed by james scumm
>>213465973>IsraelIt's obviously supposed to be Russia against Ukraine given the heavy Russian accent. That state they invade is a sovereign nation, which Gaza isn't.
>>213465993>If I kneecap an Olympian runner, I will run faster than him
>>213465993>movies make less money when they're shit so lets adjust for thatHOLY AI COPE
>>213466032He was talking to a kid you moron.
Man that last act of the pocket dimension ripping Metropolis apart is such a dud compared to the Terraforming scenes. James Gunn is a failure and his pedo defender fanboys are absolute disgrace.
>>213466207But doing something remotely like the terraforming scene was clearly never on their agenda given the film's tone.
>>213465774Gunn self inserts as a millennial. The Grandparents are always amazing people and the Boomer parents are the worse.
>>213466244Yes the tone of the movie is pure slap stick and doesn't fit Superman at all. Nothing in this movie feels geniune. There's nothing at stake because every serious moment is undercut with a quip to remind you it's just a movie.
>>213465705Left is for gay men, right is for straight women
>>213465971I never understood why Snyder didn't simply give him a red belt. The Superman colours work better when a bit of red breaks up the blue - okay so he didn't want the trunks but why not the red belt? Seems like an obvious middle ground
>>213466291Left is for movies, right is for WalMart.
>>213466322the suit made of basketball texture kills it from the jump
>>213466291Are these fitness magazines now dying as people become more literate in muscle building fundamentals? Like I'd only buy them ever for decent bulking recipes, not some autistic gimmick about how to do overhead tricep extensions a weird way for 0.0004% superior activation
>>213466207>>213466244>>213466277the movie runs off of pure comic book logic. "there was an evacuation" means EVERY SINGLE PERSON GOT OUT, there isn't a single civilian threatened by the destruction. the only one ever actually at risk is the cab lady who is not only the last person out of the city but also there's like 6 cars on the bridge too
Also literally nobody evacuates when the Kaiju attacks the city, people are still working at their jobs and hanging out in public and it's insanely hard to take the situation seriously
>>213466356My friend, magazines are dead and social media killed it. It doesn't matter the subject matter or the demographic.
>>213466295>trunksThey are clearly briefs.
>>213466069Yeah maybe on planet retard where (you) live
>>213465973Wonder what the political hook will be in Supergirl to try and replicate that "boost"
>>213466370I like that part when WalMartMan saves a squirrel amidst insane destruction where you see countless cars behind him being demolished to bits.
>>213465971>>213466322You guys are retarded thinking it's about not being serious or that it "breaks up" the design. No. If you remove the red pants all your eyes can focus on is the symbol. That was the true point and intention. If you have the red pants then your eyes are split between the two. The Superman symbol is an integral part of the Snyderverse, so emphasis on it is important.
>>213466356>Are these fitness magazines now dying as people become more literate in muscle building fundamentals?No, they're dying because gay porn is widely available on the internet now.
>>213466032John knew his son would eventually fulfill his destiny, he was trying to protect him from it happening when he was too young to understand it because it would be a massive event.
People hate a movie they didn't watch.
Everyone is over acting and screaming for dramatic impact. It loses its intention pretty quickly.
This Lex is such a whiny bore.
>>213465774Louis Lane confirmed Fascist zionist..... "well you have to talk with curropt officials if you want to save people from genocide "
>>213466291Gunnman: 68% male 32% female
MoS: 56% male 44% female
>>213466496Russia has been accused of genocide aswell.
>let's wait until I'm almost dead until I call in my super powered dog
Ok what was the point of this? This movie sucks.
>>213466407It's going to absolutely flop if it's a feminist girlpower movie
>>213466417I only know of MoS it being said that Snyder he hard to make the briefs 'work' but gave up because he couldn't take them seriously, so bringing up the belt as a middle ground and wondering why they didn't do that is valid with what I do know about the pre-production stage. Also your argument isn't the best given how muted the colours of MoS were made, so the red S blends in more with the blue than it should and defeats the purpose of what you're claiming
Snyder would have been crucified for a shot as slap stick as this
>>213466492I like how he's self aware rather than 'u jelly lexy' being some ebin gotcha 'lex got owned and roasted!' moment
>>213466599>Snyder would have been crucified for a shot as slap stick as thisWell yeah that would have jarred massively with the tone he had established in his movies
Wal-MartMan just murdered his clone in cold blood and people say Snyder's Superman was a killer.
>>213466291>>21346643010 years ago I worked for an ad firm. My boss used to mention there is a surface-level demographic and a true demographic to some of the products. These magazines thinly disguised themselves as something for straight men who want to hit the gym, but the true consumers were gay men who were embarassed to buy simple porn. Another example is chocolate powder that had to be marketed to kids within the theme of sport/energy/vitamins, when it was just pure sugar bombs. You can't cross the line, though, you can't mention explicit gay stuff on the magazine or mention the sugar in the chocolate, otherwise you lose clients. It's something fake that everyone knows it's fake but no one can say it.
>>213466634What tone is Wal-MartMan again? It keeps changing like a bipolar girl on coke. Some scene it's GoTG, other scenes it pretends to be Donner, and then other scenes it's full on melodrama.
>>213466648I can't remember, what it actually his intent to get the bus to slam into him or was that a coincidence and he was simply trying get him off? Audiences or rageposters will misremember shit. I don't like MoS much that was also victim to this, i.e.
>john said clark should let the keedz die!No, he said "maybe" as in he doesn't know and hasn't got all the answers. Even a film I hate like The Last Jedi still has people claiming that Luke literally attempted to murder Faglo Ren when that didn't actually happen
These actors have been screaming all movie and now I'm getting blinded by these amateur ass sun flare. And real "Hulk Smash" moment with Krypto attacking Lex.
>>213466707He saw the bus coming.
>>213466069I don't think anyone thinks fondly of MoS except manchildren who deluxe themselves into thinking it's """"""""""serious""""""""""
>>213466709I actually like Corenswet Superman and hope Gunn has him grow as a figure of paternal authority and such but fuck me, after somebody compared his shouting voice to Will Ferrell I cannot unhear it
Another disingenous slap stick slop by sex obsessed idiot Gunn. This movie has no merit to it if you've already seen GoTG and TSS. He's a one trick pony.
>>213465587 (OP)Same reason why Pedro Pascal and "safe horny" are a thing. This is a superman that exists to not offend the people who believe "toxic masculinity" is a thing. He's safe masculine.
>>213466792I feel bad for the actor. He's an alright Superman but terribly used under Gunn's direction.
>>213465621Why do you want superman to look like a gay midget?
>>213466790Elements were there (and I will defend Snyder as a good director in many respects), they simply needed a better script (so no Goyer who is a hack) and Zack needed more of a tard wrangler telling him they have an agenda to make this new Cavill Superman conform more to what Superman is understood to be as this cultural icon. Oh and recasting Adams, she was a bad fit for Lois I think.
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>>213466032Watch the movie until the end.
>>213465728I don't watch capeslop since I'm an adult but do you find it compromises your point a bit that this scene is the female character failing to control her emotions and hulking out? Like you're trying to make fun of the writing for being woke but the show explicitly shows you she's in the wrong.
>>213466873This only confused manchild /co/cksuckers who spent years thinking Superman is this flawless saint that was perfect from birth to adult age.
Any parent or actually anyone that has ever been around a kid will know exactly what Jonathan's intentions were. They weren't meant to keep Clark from becoming Superman. They were meant to shield him from harm until he became an adult and could make that choice for himself.
>>213466687>random pajeet schwarma merchant gets executed in cold blood >thousands of kids and old people are about to be killed in not-Palestine (but none of them actually die of course)>uhh but also Superman just punches and throws these random goons around like ragdolls>not a single civilian dies as collateral damage>I AM A PUNK ROCKER YES I AM
>>213466873Clark spent his entire adult life defying Jon's retarded morally bankrupt philosophy.
>>213466291Right is a handsome aryan with chiseled features (Cavill) not a jew with fat DSLs (Corenswet).
>>213466936>>not a single civilian dies as collateral damageWait the movie actually says this? Holy hell this is more insulting than when the Avengers Civil War claimed the destruction of New York only killed 70 people.
>>213465587 (OP)Superman's costume was inspired by strongmen, who wore similar underwear. The cameras are also completely different, as are the angles.
Superman is pure hope, batman is edgelord darkness. Thats why its interesting to see them interact. When Superman is an edgelord too, it just turns into two buff men crying at eachother over the mutual name that their mother's share.
>>213466989>Superman is pure hopeWalMartMan is just whiny and crying all the time and quite useless too. Snyder's Superman acted with much more elegance and respect towards others. He was a way better role model despite being way more junior at the job than WalMartMan.
What was the point of having the movie conclude with drunk Super Girl? She had nothing to do with the movie. Am I supposed to care about her inclusion?
>>213466985literally the only casualty of the movie is the pajeet street merchant who gets a front page news story about him at the end. metropolis is completely empty by the time the pocket universe opens up. not a single civilian is shown getting harmed or killed by any destruction
>>213467062I hate Gunn and soiboi online fanboys so fucking much
>>213467057enjoy slop and prepare to consume next slop
>>213467057Beyond Supergirl movie tease, more of them showing that this is a world partly already realised rather than seeing the origin of everything like in MCU. Young Justice was sort of like this, from the get go the League, the villains, sidekicks, etc. all already exist
That intro theme to S2025 is directly ripping off the MoS theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfi34ge2dqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6mNLNNB-6E
>>213467030One acted like an alien trying to box himself into another world and their petty bullshit because he was raised right. His conflict stems from something relatable to anyone who is an immigrant (European Amerimutts count too).
One is a boring depressed Jesus allegory who is le heckin tragic because his dirt farmer father killed himself for no reason after saying it would be ok to kill a bunch of kids.
Gunn Superman: Will be appearing in future movies
Snyder Superman: Will not be appearing in future movies
This fact enrages filthy brown Snyderjeets
>>213466989>Superman is pure hope, batman is edgelord darkness.This rigid distinctions are dumb because Batman ca also be pure hope and Superman can also be about humanity's inner darkness.
In fact Batman as a hero has helped more civilians and even villains than Superman ever did, specially in comics, because most of Superman stories are either about his angst for being an eternal outsider or a frustrated godlike being, or then pure action-y slop where it is all about power-levels and destruction. Meanwhile Batman stories tend to focus a lot about civic duty and helping the guy that needs a chance.
Go ahead, count how many villains Superman helped over the years, be it in comics or cartoons. Now do the same for Batman.
>>213467169>One acted like an alien trying to box himself into another world and their petty bullshit because he was raised right. His conflict stems from something relatable to anyone who is an immigrant (European Amerimutts count too).You're pretty much describing MoS and BvS.
>>213467192NTA but if comics did have to run on being infinite, then guys like Toyman, Metallo, and Parasite should basically be reworked into being tragic and redeemable so Superman is basically trying to save them as much as anybody they are endangering. But like I wrote, comics are infinite to someone like Metallo will always be scary metal man the way Two-Face will always be scary schizo mob boss (Two-Face, next to Freeze, is the villain that would benefit from a cathartic redemption arc)
>>213465993>AI will bend over backwards to appease jeetskek, truly the pinnacle of human inventions.
>>213467169Fact of the matter is that the core conflict of WalMartMan was already shown in BvS and done so in superior manners in just five minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxcXyK2_CzM
Look what a geniune depiction this is of Superman. Snyder doesn't attempt to trivialize his critics into being pure satire. They all come with different interpretations of his actions and character. His silence speaks volumes, wanting his actions to speak for themselves. Snyder's Superman does not need to cry in front of Lois about Twitter warriors being mean to him. He understands they will misunderstand him and accepts that. He requires guidance from his loved ones but never tries to assert dominance over them. This is the real depiction of Superman. Not Gunn's slap stick depiction that is insulting to anyone above the IQ of an online comic book manchild.
>>213467328We have to go back. Why were movies better then?
>>213467328NTA but there is an intent =/= execution aspect to why Snyder's Superman was not well received by many. There are many good ideas but there is basic stuff as a result of the filmmakers making oversights or directing poorly that creates this aversion. Namely stuff like Superman arriving in the aftermath of Metropolis (which makes 9/11 look like a joke in comparison) and not seeming at all phased in the moment before he and Lois kiss and share a joke, or when the explosion in the court house goes off Cavill is directed in a way that he looks annoyed, not horrifed by the death. And yes, even stoic emotionally in-control men can have stronger reactions than that to mass death occurring right before them. There are also lines like 'Nobody stays good in this world' and such didn't jive well with this idea of him being this being of hope. I also feel the Snyder Superman was too laconic.
Remember when Snyderman crucified a trucker's truck because he poured beer on his head instead of just pushing him like a normal person would? He wouldn't use his powers to save his fathers life but he would use them for his little tantrum.
>IMPORTANT REMINDER
Man of Steel lovers are disproportionately jeets, chinks and other assorted third worlders. The sophisticated American viewer far prefers Superman 2025, and the numbers reflect that
>>213467328Not only that but he took the criticisms to heart despite his initial protest and then tried to live by them.
Meanwhile in the new movie any criticism raised is brushed off because of Lex's involvement. Nothing is properly addressed or resolved. It is just swept under the rug.
Not to mention that you've the characters literally voicing what they're all about for the benefit of the audience. See
>>213466492,
>>213466709. It is a movie designed for dumb people.
>>213467328Clark/Lois relationship in the Snyderverse:
>they were both at a secret military facility and she followed him into an ancient Kryptonian ship, then proceeded to follow the paper trail of "weird stories about a really strong guy" until she eventually found him at his childhood homeClark/Lois relationship in the Gunnverse:
>uhh idk he just decided to reveal his identity to this chick he's been fucking for like 3 months
>>213467523If this is how you interpret the scene, the problem is not Snyder.
>>213467600>Gunnvision shows that despite his superhuman abilities he's still a man longing for acceptance and companionship>this 'weakness' also serves as a chink in his armor, an opening to be exploited kino.....
>>213467531now adjust those numbers for inflation
>>213467518>There are also lines like 'Nobody stays good in this world' and such didn't jive well with this idea of him being this being of hope.You mean moments of self doubt?
>>213467643Oh no that's not my interpretation that's a literal description of what happens in the movie.
>>213467518I think there's also an aspect of audience bias and seeking ill intentions in the character when there aren't any. Fact of the matter is that Snyder's "sins" are repeated in countless other superhero films and even Superman movies without anyone batting an eye.
>Namely stuff like Superman arriving in the aftermath of Metropolis After he had destroyed the World Engine or after he had killed Zod? I think it's plausible to assume that someone who just narrowly escaped death several times over would afford him a small moment of comfort. We actually never see that many die in Metropolis, so why should we assume more people died there than in S2025 or Avengers?
>or when the explosion in the court house goes off Cavill is directed in a way that he looks annoyed,He's obviously in terrible pain because of his failure to prevent the bombing. I think this again comes back to people not understanding emotion when it's not anime-like abrupt and overdone.
>There are also lines like 'Nobody stays good in this world' That was right before his mother was about to get torched alive by Lex. I think we should allow him some human touch of pure despair. Snyder's Superman often voices despair but in his acts chooses the right thing.
If this same mentality was applied on the Gunn version, you'd be hypocrite not to point out how lighthearted Clark is about his role in the world. About how he doesn't take anything seriously and he comes off as a huge narcissist when being "interviewed" by Lois. Or how he routinely gets in way over his head and prioritizes like shit (saving a squirrel in the fight against the giant) or him not even being able to control his super powered dog that has the power to kill people. He seemed mostly fine that the dog ravaged Luthor. Even entertained by it. Is Gunn's disingenous slap stick ways saving his Superman from this type of criticism?
>>213466873This just 100% percent confirms my theory that superheros are just power fantasies for bullied nerds.
>>213467531India is the only country where WalMartMan didn't do worse than MoS. Now try to have an argument without resorting to these cheap tactics, you shill little fuck.
>>213465587 (OP)The difference between a successful movie (left) and a flop (right).
>>213467726Zack turned it up a notch and made it a power fantasy for bugmen.
>>213467582And people say that horrendeous finale of WalMartMan being flung like a rag doll by metahumans was good. Fuck I hate online fanboys so much.
>>213467726power fantasies appeal to most people, depicted in different ways
>>213466897The webm cuts off it the next seconds she demonstrates that she's pretending to lose control but really it was intentional. Women don't need training, they excel at everything they try on the first attempt.
>>213467714>He's obviously in terrible pain because of his failure to prevent the bombing. I think this again comes back to people not understanding emotion when it's not anime-like abrupt and overdone.
>>213467766Yet sneederman got flung around by a woman and some insane dude in a bat costume lel
>>213467707The writing is full of these nods implying character's ascent from darkness. For instance how Batman willingly chooses to attack from the bottom, going up. Whereas his usual strategy is of course from the roof tops down. This is right after his promise to Clark, and implies him starting a redemption phase.
>>213467766I think Gunnman's finale was ok, but in reality, ZSJL's ending was pretty much the same while offering more substance (since it shows multiple characters) and earnesty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH3c3VeI3qk
>>213467714>He's obviously in terrible painHis reaction is bizarre to begin with, he doesn't seem confused or distressed, just mildly annoyed. Henry being such a horrible actor doesn't help either.
>>213467820Countless manchildren saw this scene and thought that Clark was literally blocking off his senses not to hear the bomb
>>213466525Russia's people is race of supermen
Currently Donbass people.
>>213465587 (OP)Simple. Superman is a character made for kids and is ridiculous and goofy. Keeping the trunks shows they are self aware of this and go with it. Removing them shows shows youโre pretentious as fuck trying to make Superman appeal to coping man children
>>213467552This is just a less quirky version of Civil War and people lost their minds because the characters acted less childish about it.
Both movies introduced the idea that the gov should be in control of heroes to avoid causalities. Ironman was an absolute whiny bitch about it though. He wanted to sell all of their friends' freedoms because he felt guilty.
Clark, OTOH, since the beginning told the military that any control was an illusion because he could overpower them all easily. When the senator wanted to "talk" with him she was also under the delusion that she could control what Superman did because she believed in a democratic system. Clark agreed to talk because he felt he owed some explanations, but he didn't owe them his servitude.
At the end, Civil War was just a plot to move the movie into breaking the team before Thanos. The agreement was solved off camera. In BvS, the conflict was the plot to form a team to defeat the upcoming dangers because Bruce realised that no human power could protect them.
Tony: we need the government to control us.
Bruce: we need a team of our own.
Jeez, I wonder why some people hate BvS.
>>213465587 (OP)One is dead in the water while the other is gettting a sequel
>>213467914He's struggling to hold back his tears. And outside, he looks at Lois in absolute defeat. This Superman doesn't need to shout or scream. This is fine. This says it all.
>>213468001That's such a cop out,
>how dare you make this property more aesthetically appealing
>>213467062>>213467062>metropolis is completely empty by the time the pocket universe opens up.EXCEPT when Superman is around to rescue someone, just like it was with kaiju attack before. It is like a Superman movie made by tv show version of Vought from The Boys.
Also reminder that pajeet guy literally died in MoS Jonathan Kent style death, Clark chose his secret over that guy's life. Also thankfully kaiju just suddenly stopped so he could ask people if they are okay, or that none of the Raptors got killed somehow.
>>213468063That's how he looks normally through out all 3 movies.
>>213468001Why do you keep making shit up? This is a cinema adaption. If you can't make it work on cinemas but have to resort to the same tiresome GoTG/TSS act, then you're not making a Superman movie.
>>213468063>This Superman doesn't need to shout or scream
>catchy rock music scene of cool guys beating up CGI bad guys
How many times will Gunn repeat this tiresome trope?
>>213468113Damned if you do
>>213468086Damned if you don't.
>>213468137Maybe Cavill just can't act and Zack can't direct? It's simple.
Thank you Gunn for bringing the MCU costume design of WalMart to DC. This is surely what DC needed right now.
>>213468113it made sense here, he killed the last member of his race
>>213468096Cope harder faggot. Nobody has a problem with Chris Reeve Superman suit. Everyone always says he was Superman ripped right out of the comics
>>213465834Damn your chink overlords donโt care about you Ivanobitch
>>213468040Civil War's conflict was extremely forced because the movie never really sells you Tony's point of view. It just makes him look like a retard.
>>213468063>This Superman doesn't need to shout or scream>proceed to destroy a truck because of a drunktard being drunkYeah, sure.
>>213468137Did you know Superman crying after Zod's death was apparently Henry's idea? He may be a terrible actor but I still like the guy, Zack should've taken notes from him on how people react to things.
>>213467552Even the terrorist had good points that exemplify the whole movie metaphor. That just because you had good intentions starting out and didn't expect bad things to happen, you still need to suck up and shoulder whatever responsibility you have for your involvement in the fallout of the messy situation, even if it doesn't seem fair.
>>213467582I like how through decades of schizophrenic changes entire Superman's concept of having super powers and the fact that heat vision, let alone laser eyes version were ever intended by Jerry Siegel (other powers such as super hearing , x-ray vision *, upgrades of super speed that eventually became time travel, upgrades of super jump that eventually became flight but not anti-gravity like it only became since 1987 (just compare Any Siegel Superman comics Golden or Silver age with Siegel's The Spectre) or concept of getting super powers energy from the sun which is really just following energy absorbtion ability) in the very end in 2016 it all culminated in a source material accurate of "what man can do, but hyperbolized" because what is this if not a hyperbole on a starring contest?
That's really it for Superman in terms of powers. At least by creator. If you follow logic of original comics.
>>213467174Superman: Made a profit
Pedogunnman: Bombed despite the largest online marketing shill campaign I've ever seen
Pedophilia has been rejected. gunn is done.
>>213468205There's a reason why Superman Returns was rejected. Nobody cares about this boomerslop.
>>213468225Lmao I can see that, Zack would just have him flies away and then kisses Lois.
>>213468221>>This Superman doesn't need to shout or scream>>proceed to destroy a truckAre you still being a disingenous nigger ignoring the chronological order of the movies? A truck isn't a person, why are soibois so caring about some asshole's truck?
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>>213468269Why is a Superman fan complaining about Superman, of all characters, destroying a bad guy's vehicle?
>>213468269>throw tantrum like a bitch and do thing behind people back>d-doesn't count
Why did Gunnman not save those hundreds of cars instead of some useless squirrel?
>>213468269Because avoiding confrontation with someone to superkey their car is extremely faggoty behavior.
>>213465587 (OP)Looks like Superman is no longer played by a manlet
>>213468248We get it, youโre brown and donโt like Superman, you just like swinging off Snyderโs nutsack
>>213468362Yes Clark should have just punched him to death instead.
>>213468393Gunnjeets in cope mode. Call me when WalMartMan hits 900m WW BO.
>nobody even remembers Slap Stick Man to bother talking about it
YIKES
Super Girl better be good because this ain't it.
>>213468399That would have certainly been manlier, he could also just like, push him, hold his head at arm's length, carry him outside. Instead he destroyed his livelihood and went back on the run.
>>213468399>superman>can't humble a drunktardThen he's not so super.
>>213467714>We actually never see that many die in Metropolis, so why should we assume more people died there than in S2025 or Avengers?Because of the entire tone of MoS is very different from Avengers, we see people being lifted up in their dozens before being slammed down into the group, and a huge portion of downtown Metropolis was vaporised entirely with a bunch of partially destroyed skyscrapers around the perimeter. If it doesn't bother you that's fine but someone taking umbrage with Superman's nonreaction to Metropolis (after them telling the audience plainly not saving people is never an option for him and his emotional reactions elsewhere) is valid enough.
>>213465705>>213465587 (OP)Left is intimidating, and that's not Superman. His movies are about murdering aliens and blowing shit up.
Superman on the right is a boy scout, and does his best to not kill monsters. Kids ran up to hug the right superman.
Left is just a power fantasy, right is a hero. That's the difference.
>wanted to shill zack
He kills his two netflix universes because both are dogshit
>wanted superman to fail
It didnt and there are already plans for the sequel
>want to defend man of murder
Pathetic manchild defending his dogshit power fantasy while defending pa kent being a suicidal dude too
LMAO at snydertrannies. Hope they kill themselves because they have nothing good to offer.
>>213467714The thing the Snyder movies get subjected to a different set of scrutiny because the filmmakers kept making apparent over and over that these are adult films, they are realistic and dark, etc. A technical double standard? Sure, but it's scrutiny the makers of MoS/BvS invited upon themselves given what they set out to do with these cultural icons
>>213468415Why am I coping. Gunn doing the next movie. Going to be Superman-Supergirl vs Brainic which what MOS 2 was going to be hahaha
>>213468538Its what they want. These people legit support homelander behavior, they are legit deranged to the point cavill said fuck snyder and wanted to play the blue boyscout. The Black adam cameo was all his ideas.
>buh muh black suit :(((Not even cavill wanted snydersloppa
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he looks too old to be a child desu. wonder what he got convicted for?
>>213468570Same shit happened to Nolan. He went so far up his own ass with Rises. Itโs a meme because how serious he took it yet itโs completely retarded
>>213468639Trump was Epsteinโs best friend yet you're okay with that.
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>"Notice that through the "S" glyph on his chest, through the belt and the wrist, there's some very delicate Kryptonian script incorporated into the chainmail pattern. What it is, is a Joseph Campbell quote that Zack really liked in relation to Superman."
>"Where we had thought to travel outward, we shall come to the center of our own existence. Where we thought to be alone, we shall be with all the world"
Snyder was an artist.
The new movie, intentionally, has a less serious approach.
>>213465587 (OP)roids vs well balanced body.
Gay love left
>Fact of the matter is that Snyder's "sins" are repeated in countless other superhero films and even Superman movies without anyone batting an eye.
I wonder why
Almost like he think he is above normal cape movies so people need to be more analytical about it.
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>>213468736>"Where we had thought to travel outward, we shall come to the center of our own existence. Where we thought to be alone, we shall be with all the world"He also designed BvS plot to sync with that saying.
>>213467062>>213467079Oh no Superman and his friends actually save people!?? Where is my homelander?? I'm going insane
>>213468736Cool detail
Still a shit movie
No wonder why this hack flopped at netflix two times
>>213467328>His silence speaks volumes, Because snyder knew cavill coudn't act for shit, that's he barely gave him any dialogue
>>213468743its a padded suit too
>>213465774How would you have quickly found Krypto in a way that wouldnโt have pissed off the United States government even more?
>>213468538Right is a whiny self centered cunt. Kind of like Gunn.
>>213468822>Oh no Superman and his friends actually save people!?? Where is my homelander??We are talking about a movie where the 'Justice' Gang casually murders people with upbeat music while calling out Superman for not doing the same. Pretty much every character in this movie treats Superman as a bitch.
>>213467600Gunn Lois and Clark interview was better written than the entirety of the snyder movies
>>213468963It was Hawkgirl who killed Netanyahu literally saying she's not Superman
>Pretty much every character in this movie treats Superman as a bitch.He's not general murderman, in the end they all look up to him
>>213467079>NOOOOO people need to die because muh realism no one can evacuate a city that fast!!I am glad gunn never pretended he went for realism and it was always a comic approach
Man of murder killed tons of people but also zod
Fuck these colateral damage victims right? What happens when cavillmal snaps and kills everyone for being evil. After all snydertrannies mentally is the same as "power always corrupt" but they pretend his superman is more than Clark pretending to be batman.
Cavill story Its so dogshit you can turn him a villain just by killing lois and I would believe that. You don't need the anti equation because he has no reason at all to help humanity other than the script.
>>213468113>>213468221This happened in a different movie than BvS when he's more comfortable with his role of being a hero.
Again, you don't watch the movies you hate so much.
>>213468327They complain about lack of comic accuracy when Gunn and most of the MCU abandoned that years ago and nobody seems to complain.
Starlord is more of a manchild than any other character and they all are either super quirky or super autistic.
>>213468340He wasn't yet Superman when he did this, IICR.
>>213468538Right is the reason that Superman has the reputation for being lame and corny.
>>213465993Jesus Christ I didn't realize how bad inflation is, our money is tumbling down
>>213468642People still praise him and forget he was involved with the Snyder movies.
>>213468680>b-b-but Drumpf!!!!!Gunntards are so pathetic
>>213466873That picture is retarded since it shows the opposite
Costner Kent tells him not to use his powers to save people but these foster parents do
>>213469129>comfortable with his role of being a hero.>slam a human through 5 different walls
>>213468634>>213468822>le HomelanderPeople who parrot this talking point are legit NPC redditors that have no ability to think for themselves.
>>213469249That's how they get you
>>213468736I have no problem with showing a less serious approach. Their issue is that they're childish in the same way the Guardians are.
>>213465705I find the right more appealing. I've just came from reddit though don't know if that matters
>>213469061>comic approachYou mean slap stick Adam West approach.
>>213468807>Superman is Le GOD!You are not helping your case snydertranny
>>213465728One of the most atrocious things ever aired in this god forsaken planet
>>213468766He wants to give the movies a more adult approach than you had for Saturday morning cartoons, which isn't bad.
The issue is that then it should be judged as such, which people don't do. many critics just go with the easiest take: "this didn't make me laugh like the MCU, hence, it's bad".
The Nolan trilogy had a more serious and even pretentious approach to the story of batman and people liked it because there was no MCU to compare.
>>213465660RIP DJ Qualls 1972-2025
>>213465705Right looks like what ""masculity""" is for a lot of people about aka gay fetishism. Like you have snydertrannies creaming themselves with those shirt less cavill pics. Like holy shit nigger you want to fuck a lumberjack you are gay as shit.
>>213469438>: "this didn't make me laugh like the MCU, hence, it's bad"The voices in your head aren't real. Snyder was being criticized for being retarded, not nuh MCU.
>>213469375>Pajeet can't process mythical elements
>>2134695172016 basically destroyed movies forever.
>>213469310Then why cavill didnt want snyder trash in his black adam moment and instead went for full blue scout? Its almost like he is ashamed of his portrayal of ""superman"" specially when people who dont know think he is an adaptation of injustice.
>>213469581How exactly was the Black Adam cameo "full blue boyscout"? Still seemed pretty serious in tone to me. Certainly nothing like the farce that was just released.
>>213469580BvS killed itself. No one else gives two shit about the movie.
>>213469557If you think superman is a god first then you lost me
If you think dc characters are this unreachable god beings you lost me
Snyder idea of WW keeping the heads of generals beheaded its beyond parody
>>213465587 (OP)Snyderjeets hate superman, yeah his mom made his suit
>>213469129That movie he picks up Batman and throws him through a building when he wants to tell him Lex has his mother held hostage. Snyderman continues to be an emotionally immature man baby who can only throw his weight around on lowly humans.
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>>213469642>If you think superman is a god first then you lost me>If you think dc characters are this unreachable god beings you lost meDo yourself a favor, and never read Grant Morrison's JLA.
>>213469580>>213469438Isnt funny how Justice league and the TAS did a better job than Snyder dogshit movies minus ZSJL and got praised for it?
>>213469651How the fuck she made his suit if Supergirl's suit is made of the same overly designed basketball material?
>>213469678That's because the widow of Batman's victim told him Batman doesn't listen to reason, only strength. The woman, and as a consequence him, were wrong. It was meant to highlight the very ending of the fight where words did stop Batman in his track.
>>213469580>want to amke batman fights superman>use the idiot plot cranked up to 11 for it>people hate it because it's dumb>surprised pikachu faceWhat's the plan here? The Martha scene is embarrassing.
>>213469580BvS killed superman not before humiliating him
>>213465993This Is retarded common core math
>>213469682morrison is a hack
>>213469701>Isnt funny how Justice league and the TAS did a better job than SnyderYou mean the cartoons that Superman fanboys used to complain for the depiction of Superman when it was aired? Because i remember that shit. Niggers crying online about Bruce Timm being a Batman fan and making Superman look bad,
>>213469756Words didn't stop batman. Retarded writing did.
WalMartMan is yet another schizophrenic clusterfuck by sexual deviant James Gunn. When he's not obsessed with sex (with minors), he's obsessed with quips. When he's not obsessed with quips, he's obsessed with people dying.
Why anybody thought he was suitable for the job of adapting Superman is beyond me.
>>213469756Then why did Superman try talking to him before and after this?
>>213469756Batman is an irredemable retard in BvS, he didn't even care to investigate the bombing he just immediately went to murder superman. Snyder really fucking ruined both of them
>>213469797Still better than sneederman
>>213469682The one with one of the biggest batwank? Yeah that shit is not the same.
>>213469846It's like the movie is trying to say something.
>>213469831Superman never said that, snyderjeet you have to make shit up
>>213469870Batman is a god too, you know, in a mythical sense.
>>213467707Wow it sure is great that after a decade, billions of dollars and constant shilling that the movie is so we'll written and shot that it requires you to cut these shots to explain. Definitely a sign of a good story teller. Oh wait. The original Reevesman (and even serial actors) did that. It's almost like people hated the movie because despite all these swings it didn't actually deliver and left people feeling the opposite. Being a director is to understand how to tell a story. Snyder attempted to ape biblical themes and ancient themes of power vs humanity but failed to truly understand how to make a character hopeful. Ironically anyone who still shills this shit is hopeless. It's like pottery
>>213465587 (OP)Now post them actual size
>>213469899>that it requires you to cut these shots to explainLots of retards around that need the obvious spelt to them.
>>213469927The movie is easy to understand but the execution was retarded and completely miss the point of Batman and Superman.
>>213469871There is a good reason nobody cares about what barley coherent retards try to say
>>213469967>and completely miss the point of Batman and Superman.Sure, honey.
>>213470020But where are the jokes? Where are the bloody jokes?
>>213470020>post the plot of 2025 superman ?
>>213470020You snyderjeets need to put these together to even resemble a narrative
>>213470047You say that like Man of Steel doesn't have the most tone deaf quips of the entire super hero sub genre
>>213466599>Snyder would have been crucified
Can't even fathom how thousands of adults are arguing over the most mid movies ever.
>>213470020Superman going full laser on zod's ship while killing innocent human lives Its one of the most heroics moments ever
>>213465993>970 - 25% = 502What?
>>213465587 (OP)ive never seen a bigger downgrade in my entire life, its literally visible to anyone that's isn't blind or a drooling retard
>>213469879But WalMartMan did.
>>213465705>>213465587 (OP)>>213466873>>213467552>>213467707>>213467820>>213467875>>213468063in years to come people will analyse why something like mos/bvs flopped while liquid shit like the marvel slop succeeded. millennials faggots and thier dog shit taste have a lot to answer for
>>213469899Gunnjeets are cinema illiterate so Snyderchads have to spell it out for them.
>>213465587 (OP)>>213465705visually literally night and day. you will never get another aesthetically perfect superman than cavill
I miss the IP counter already.
>>213470317I didn't understand the scene where Clark is in the church talking about sacrificing himself or in BvS where Bruce says Men are still good after Superman died to save them
>>213465587 (OP)the superman overton window has shifted left
that's what
no more christcuck superman
no more murder man
now we have compassion
honor and love
deal with it
>>213470308>>213470317Enough time has passed and people still make fun of snyder to the point he went to netflix to do the same and his two dogshit universes are already cancelled.
Like people alreadybsaw your compilations and still rightfully call bvs and even the UE version trash.
The fact that snydertrannies are still seeking validation Its fucking pathetic lmao
>>213470444christians in the 80s were just as retarded as they are now
>>213470429time will be kinder the age of beta cucks and onions drinkers is at an end
>>213470317to this day im still at a loss how so many people flat out misunderstood the themes and messaging of mos/bvs meanwhile you get retards calling it surface level intellectual trying hard to be something it isn't baka
>>213465587 (OP)Cavill was a good Injustice superman
>>213470560When a movie fails so catastrophically at the basics of film like character writing, directing, plot, and world building it becomes hard to care about the message and themes.
Dam snydertrannies mad no one but dragon ball stans like cavill injustice portrayal
>>213468822>>213468634>woah this thing is just like the thing that's parodying it
>>213469249If people in entertainment could understand how badly inflation effects their industry theyโd become austrian school economists overnight. (The economics school that utterly hates inflation.)
>>213465587 (OP)More color is the right decision for superman. He is not bill finger's Batman.
Why was everyone constantly shouting and overacting in the Gunnsaar version?
>>213465705Imagine henry cavil is your roomie but there's a drought so you have to shower together to save water. Haha that would be so awkward and upsetting wouldn't it?
>>213468538>Muh real SupermanPTOOH
>>213465834Snyder's Superman is a great meta-commentary on what it means for Clark to be Superman. It's really fucking amazing kino from that perspective. Like Coppola's Dracula-tier.
The movie is slowly sinking at the box office and reddit's reaction is golden.
>It will get a billie.
>It will get $900 million.
>It will get $800 million.
>It will get $700 million.
>It will get $600 million.
https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1mk3mad/warner_bross_superman_grossed_an_estimated_170m/
>>213465587 (OP)both gay
if you like this you like men
I saw Superman yesterday and I'll be honest, with how good the word of mouth was, how many memes produced and how addictive the end song was, I expected a bit more. I still enjoyed a lot but I don't know, I thought they were going to lean more on the "hope" theme.
The Grant Morrison vibes were pretty good, though.
>>213470706More like Kingdom Come Superman as that's Snyder's biggest inspiration for Cavill. It would've been great seeing him mellow out over time and let humanity decide for themselves that they don't actually need a Superman to watch over them day and night.
>>213471545>all that butthurt over Disney and F4, a movie that flopped and nobody watchedIf WalMartMan was good, people would see it. The fact that only Amerifats fell for Gunn's slap stick trick for the fourth time is telling. Europeans could smell the dud coming miles away.
At this rate, there's no way it's reaching MoS BO. Unless WB pulls off some shady shit and extends the theatre run with free showings.
>>213471632Kingdom Come and Peace on Earth are clearly the biggest sources of inspiration for BvS Superman. Which is fitting because those are the only two Superman comics you'll ever need to read.
Don't @ me, Geoff Johns cocksuckers.
>>213471619>I thought they were going to lean more on the "hope" theme.with the way fanboys talk about superman 2025 you'd think it was one of the greatest movies of all time
>superman is HUMAN in this >it gives a message of HOPE >superman frees palestine
This is Cavill Superman, down to the priest reminding him of what makes sense.
>snyderjeets mental breakdown
You love to see it.
>>213471765Wonder Woman's armor in this was cool as fuck.
>>213471833James Gunn is a pdf file
>>213471845They tried to make it work for 1984 but that film fucking sucked ass in more ways than one.
>>213471839That was his plan. Superman uniting every branch and every type of people.
>>213471883I'm just saying that a jaded Superman is not "Superman acting out of character" that can only be done with him being evil (Injustice, Red Son, etc.).
Reminds me of a certain scene
>>213471883Snyder was cooking but they didn't let him.
>>213471918Calm down, i am saying that the theme of KC, of Superman eventually realizing that men and supermen need to stand up together, was eventually be reflect in the second or third JL movie, where not only the heroes, the Atlanteans, and the amazons are in the fight, but also everyone else. The military, the cops, the regular people. And Superman would be leading the common men,
>>213471955>cookingI lover Sneeder cuckman
>>213471955It's mostly because people don't actually read Superman, they have an IDEA of Superman and they really want to impose that mold even though Superman can be anything at this point.
>>213471742>KD is about forgiving yourself and move on>Cavillman keeps on killing like it's nothingSure.
>>213472106WalMartMan killed his clone and lets his super dog assault people.
>>213472106Cavillman was jaded about humanity rejecting his altruism to a fault and died trying to protect them. Jor-El's dream of him trying to lead humanity was in fact extremely hard and unforgiving. Once he resurrects, he's more of a mellow Superman and I would've loved to see more of that because he began acting like All-Star Superman.
>>213472178I feel like resurrected Superman skipped a few story beats, but that's because the studio forced Snyder to make him more one dimensional good guy and remove the inner conflict aspects.
>>213472122Where's the corpse?
>>213472178>began acting like All-Star Superman.Not under Snyder's reign he won't. He will be used as a plot point (knightmare) and DCEU will ultimately ends up like that Apokolips movie.
>>213472237>>213472258Superman Reborn would've been fantastic either way. It'd give a reason why Superman just has infinite patience for humanity, something he didn't get a grip with until he died and came back.
>>213471545Damn a movie going to it's 5th weekend got marvelfags panties wet
>>213467582How does this look so good?
>>213472122You are confused Murderman brutally murdered Zod, Superman trapped Ultraman in the black hole
>>213472441I'd rather die than be trapped in some hellhole for eternity.
>>213467552Man Of Steel was a resounding success, play boy.
>>213472466This is what Zod thought as well lmao.
>>213472437I'm also very fond of the part where Superman flies down out of space to smack into Doomsday and you see a fucking flash of lightning in the clouds as he comes down with a sonic boom. BvS is kino.
>>213472258The Knightmare stuff was just going to be first part of the movie, and then it would be mostly on the present time with Clark trying to implement whatever knowledge Batman has from the future.
>>213467582Snyder is great at making visually striking scenes.
>>213468113SissyMan had three years, play boy. It's picrel first day.
Reminder that ZSJL is not canon
>>213472533It is according to Snyder.
Nobody thought Faora died in Man of Steel why are we pretending anyone thinks Ultraman is dead?
>>213472533What is canon, even?
>>213468205Reeve looked like a loon, play boy.
>>213472530But he already murdered thousands in Metropolis minutes before
>>213472437The movie spent a lot of time in production with a big budget, it used Snyder's own CG team instead of outsourcing, Snyder himself is very visually orientered and Larry Fong is a very talented DP. I really enjoy the movie's visuals and music. True comic-book-like.
>>213472533Good. That means itโs not associated with Hamadacrap.
>>213472512That's part, part 1 is building up to the flash time travel shit
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>>213470154Hey, the world ship was vaporizing the city! If you after an hour of 2/3 of the city being pulverized you Deserved to die!!!!
>>213472558That shot of Doomsday next to Superman's statue with the light from the helicopter creating contrast is absolute kino.
>>213472647It really is, specially when you think about its symbolism.
>>213465728>Catcalling that Jewess
>>213472529Someone make them kiss
>>213465587 (OP)Snyder bad Gunn good. Thatโs it. All of a sudden Superman killing is okay now, speedrunning teamups is okay now, making a โsurface level movie for edgy 12 year oldsโ is okay now because Gunn did it. And you can bet if he didnโt stick with the trunks people would bend over backwards defending him for it. If Gunn tweeted tomorrow that he actually liked BvS you would see people in droves start saying โI too actually liked the movie. Itโs overrated.โ
>>213472565Because Zod, who was equal to him both in powers and strength would have said, hey play boy, I promise not to use my military training or martial arts on you like Faora, who was weaker than you by the way, did and managed to catch you off Guard because you were looking out not to harm innocent life when she chided you about evolution---so you don't have to to go all out, 'kay?
You speed watchers are dumb
>>213472743Just to show how much of a good director matters kek.
This thread is still lively so I made a continuation thread
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>>213472743Some people just have the benefit of pedophile.
Honestly, i'd rather just discuss about MoS/BvS/ZSJL.
>>213472743>>213472776Be encouraged, Snyder Won!
>>213465993>The cope>The sneedPathetic
>>213472839Never stop posting, king.
>>213472855I will fight forever if need be! Excelsior!!!!!!
>>213472774Zod is not equal to Superman, the moment he decides he's willing to murder Zod he does. Also Zod got beat up by a scientist so he really can't be all that.
>>213472896>Also Zod got beat up by a scientist so he really can't be all that.They were friends and he didn't want to fight his friend. It's just that Jor was a disgusting sex haver.
Migrate you bloody basterds
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>>213472858Kek. Indians love both MoS and Superman(2025).
>>213472896You're kinda dumb, speed watcher! How can the creators convey to you the observer the seriousness of Zod---so we can say he's a real threat?
Oh that's right, FLIGHT and LAZERS and Breathing and Controlling his SENSES!
But to ensure an Idiotic nincompoop GOT IT
Zod Literally Said, Im a bio engineered SAGE of death; Ive trained my whole life to evolve into the prefer weapon; Where did you train, On a farm????
Remember, Superman had just learned to fly. Zod did all that in about an hour.
Personally, I blame Goyer Nolan Snyder for believing you dimwits had a thinking ability that isn't but 3 centimeters from your face.
>>213473087If they wanted to convey Zod is a credible threat maybe introduced him with a fight scene he gets smoked in then. That's just bad film making.
>>213473176Oh my gosh you're Dumb! They're Engineered beings anon, but Jor-EL's sigil is Hope; test your limits reaching further than the other guy! Jor-EL is bad ass because the doesn't settle with his defined programming, he reaches further.
>>213473289Oh my, would you look at that poorly structured response. I'm so ashamed.
>>213472776People thought Taika Waititi was a "good director" too.