>3/4 of the movie is a mystery suspense thriller
>last quarter is a comedy
>its still a 10/10 banger

Did tv see it?

>>213491659 (OP)
wikipedia synopsis looks boring
>where didsd the children go? Where did the children go brooo
>oh this lady mind controlled them
>the end
total stephen kingian garbage that relies on the mystery of its premise

>>213491659 (OP)
7/10 for me. I feel as though there should have been a section of the film entirely from glady's perspective

also i feel like there was something off with the last few lines read by the narrator. Like most of what she said didnt actually happen. Maybe alex went to another aunt who actually isnt nice

is it out on streaming sites yet?

>>213491659 (OP)
What was with the giant floating rifle

>>213491659 (OP)
so uh, did the parents of the main kid just have no friends or anything? did nobody find it a bit suspicious they just vanished from the public eye completely? I know the witch lady claimed that the father had a stroke, but what about the mother? did she just claim they both happened to have a stroke at the exact same time?
>>213491713
yeah the reveal was kind of underwhelming.

>>213491659 (OP)
Silence marketer!

>>213491659 (OP)
6/10, the the glowing critical reception to this is odd. Usually, even when I disagree with the critical consensus of a film, there's a distinct element, zeitgeist-resonant aspect, or eccentricity to the direction that explains why it was so warmly received. This film is just run-of-the-mill. It truly could have been called the Black Phone 2 and no one would be the wiser. It's a very traditional King-esque paranormal mystery thriller set in a small town with a rattled community.
It does the set up decently enough, showing the disaffected lives of those surrounding the event in a structured manner by way of stratified character viewpoints that gradually leads into the revelation of the Witch. This in turn however makes the build up to the finale, character by character, take so long, that the violent pay-off between characters doesn't feel particularly impressive or emotionally profound.
The film's monster, a witch, is a malefic interloper, a timeless ancient parasite that stealthily invades communities and sustains itself on the lifeforce of the young. These are classic witch tropes, and maybe Cregger had designs on social commentary with the old vs the young etc.
The monster being a witch, and a human parasite, are both blatantly foreshadowed early on, as Garner's car is defaced with the word 'Witch' by Brolin's character, and we're shown clips of the now pop-culture relevant parasitical fungus that takes control of small organisms, feeding from them and commandeering their mental faculties. Obviously in the film, the Witch, Gladys, does the same, reducing her bewitched human thralls to thoughtless tools with single-minded relentless urge to hunt their targets. They've been weaponised, as Josh Brolin points out. Brolin also sees a giant weapon, an assault rifle, in the clouds of his dream, in what I'm certain was a subtle nod to the film's underlying themes.
Regardless, Cregger clearly never had any intention on surprising you with this film.

>>213492289
Josh Brolin has a nightmare sequence / out of body astral projection moment and he randomly sees a cloud in the shape of a floating rifle above a house. It's never brought up again, I guess people can read a le metaphor into it but I didn't get anything out of it. The dream sequence ends with a jump scare from the witch, so it's not like the floating rifle is the punchline for the dream. Although it's strange because the witch has never interacted with Brolin at this point so I'm not sure why he's getting visions of her, same thing happens with Garner. Seems like some things ended up on the cutting room floor, the script has Garner trying to find information on the "ministry of silly walks", which I assume is a coven that the witch is part of but this is never brought up in the finished movie.

>>213492441
The Witch appears in people's dreams in grotesque nightmarish caricature throughout the film, in what seems like a counterintuitive move for a parasite, that should be attempting to appear as innocuous and inconspicuous as possible. Of course, Gladys, the witch, is also eccentric and garishly dressed, donning a red-wig like the classical witch, like something trying to blend in and attempt human mimicry, while also expressing aposematic warning signals that they shouldn't be crossed. Her rituals in the film may explain the phantasmal manifestations in people's dreams, perhaps she attempts to feed on the terror, or derive power from it, like a cheap version of IT or something. The problem is that the supernatural nightmare clown-version of Gladys in the dreams feels like both a cheap and illogical means to insert jumpscares, and a precursor to something far more eldritch and horrifying than the enfeebled nursing-home patient that's torn to pieces quite effortlessly at the end of the film.
The monster simply being an evil decrepit human witch ultimately foiled by her child captors feels like a trite monster story we've all seen a trillion times. The same can be said for the story as a whole. It's a competent film, but remarkably unoriginal.
Puzzled by the reception to this one honestly.

>>213492442
She looks like she's giving a career best performance and I bet she's in it for 10 minutes

>>213491659 (OP)
I'd give it more like a 7/10.
I liked the creepy atmosphere but the comedy bits kinda missed for me. Also the final act should’ve been longer to explain the villain better.

What the fuck was her objective and relation to that one kid's parents? The aunt thing felt weird in hindsight.

>>213492512
I think her total screen time is a bit longer but she only appears halfway through the movie for the first time.

Moving fucking sucked about something so haunting like children being spirited away from their homes. Killer premise, abysmal execution

>>213492585
Either the witch was genuinely a distant relation of the mother, or she simply enchanted a relative and wove a tale of being distantly related.
Her objective was to prey upon the populace of a small town and reverse her withering misfortunes, probably by feeding on their lifeforce or mystery goo or whatever. Standard witch stuff honestly.
I don't think the villain really necessitated any deeper explanation, her motives and nature were fairly obvious, but the finale did feel strangely rushed, especially as the witch makes a last minute decision to desert the town and presumably abandon her newly bewitched puppets.
Upon reflection, I think the core problem I have with this film is that the central antagonistic force, while being a perfectly reasonable and classic supernatural threat, does not serve as a particularly fascinating or original answer to the compelling mystery woven at the beginning.
I expected something a lot more dark and twisted than a simple classic hag using alchemical rituals, hair fetishes, and black magic.

>>213492585
>What the fuck was her objective and relation to that one kid's parents?
i'm not sure why people keep asking this, she outright explains it. she was draining their life force to cure her cancer, but the parents weren't enough so she took the kids too.

>>213491659 (OP)
>3/4 of the movie is a mystery suspense thriller
nope, the moment the pot head look inside the house you know almost everything
>last quarter is a comedy
it's anxiety and the last minute is cathartic
>its still a 10/10 banger
seriously, who's paying people (a single person) to shill this slop?

>>213492442
I don't know about you guys but I WOULD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fJOYb83GeA

>>213491659 (OP)
i'm curious, do you guys get your pay docked if your shill threads get deleted? i sure fucking hope so.

>>213492585
Sucking the life force out of the parents and kids. Compare how she looked in the bed when Alex first sees her to the day after she bewitched the parents. Later on she’s shown looking rougher than normal and explains to Alex that she thought the parents would help but it wasn’t enough. After the kids are taken she’s full of life and vibrant when interacting with the police and the principal.
As for her relation to Alex’s mother it’s explained that they haven’t seen her in years so you could argue that she really was family or did some mind tricks with to appear that they were related.

>>213492442
Lmao it's not even an actual AR rifle but a cloud? In the script it was written as if it's an actual AR rifle. I think Cregger realized that was too fucking retarded so changed it to a cloud, but that's even dumber.

>>213491659 (OP)

I liked when she started drinking and the methhead was funny too

>>213492797
>I think the core problem I have with this film is that the central antagonistic force, while being a perfectly reasonable and classic supernatural threat, does not serve as a particularly fascinating or original answer to the compelling mystery woven at the beginning.
I expected something a lot more dark and twisted than a simple classic hag using alchemical rituals, hair fetishes, and black magic.

This.

>>213492441
>>213492468
Nah the witch was the best part of the movie and you’re a sad little bitch.

>>213492797
>>213494495
I liked the eccentric witch. Not everything needs to be original.

>>213492289

The whole movie was an allegory for Trump possessing your neighbors into MAGA zombies and how easy they can turn on their leader when someone else preprograms them.

>>213491742
it will be on digital next month

>>213492289
Wasn't the AR a poster in the kids wall?

>>213491659 (OP)
I'll give a solid 8/10 just for the fact that the director stepped his game up from the previous movie and give a more interesting premise and structure to the film. And also because it feels original, unlike the other crap out there.
>>213491742
I think it's supposed to connect to school shootings. The title, kids being missing, only the parents caring and making a fuss about it.

>ludo
It’s never explained, could be a movie that addresses the US problem with missing children. pedo networks and cult crimes like True Detective
>kino
Ayyyyys
>Trash
Pied Piper le hansel gretel modern story
>Shit
What we got

>>213495008
>Ayyyyys
Everyone and their mums know the earth is flat and space doesn't exist at this point, the fantasy of aliens have long lost their mystique.

>>213491659 (OP)

>>213495008
>so
>left think the film is anti left and
>right think the film is anti right
it might not be what it was promised but it was a smart move

>>213492441
TLDR poster here again
I don't really buy the school shooting allegory, or at least, I don't think it was the core thematic focus. Maybe it's because I'm not American, and the topic, which is so conspicuous there that it's literally disseminated throughout schools as crises aversion, isn't quite as immediate to me. Little girls getting slashed to bits by piratical welsh darkies, that's more on my wavelength.
Obviously the film's title and the audacious oneiric visual cue of the assault rifle emerging from the clouds, attached to a plot that hinges around a kid whose class vanishes and the devastated community reaction and the PTA conference, naturally invites such comparisons, but at best, I think weapons draws upon the common wisdom that old, colourful individuals might have hidden insidious designs. The classic uncanny feeling you get seeing someone like Jimmy Saville or Trump or a Clown. Maybe there was an undercurrent that these types of figures might thrive off kids riddling the chest cavities of their peers with bullet holes, or even foment it to suit their populist agendas, and that all it takes is people seeing through their guise to stop them, but I think that's a huge stretch.
The parasite angle was the most interesting part of the film, and I got the sense that the eyes bulging out of the sockets of the afflicted was a straight up nod to the parasitic worms that mind-control their hosts, manifest in the single-minded rage of Glady's victims. Her being essentially alien through preternatural longevity, also meant that her character exhibited a certain 'offness' like biological mimicry, the aposematic elements of the witch, the red hair, garish make up, colourful dress etc. small things that subtly alert you to a danger. I guess that could explain what the clown-caricature was supposed to symbolise in the townspeople's dreams, but again, the mere existence of the symbol implied a more sinister terror-feeding monster with a darker nature.

>>213491659 (OP)
I stayed away because I hate it when movies are marketed specifically around the fact there's going to be a twist

>>213495728
he was bullied but there was never a gun/shooting reference related to him or the school
that's just some made up shit by the director or shills

>>213496021
It's not a twist like "gotcha" like shyamalan. The movie has a nice structure and story. It's not amazing, but it's great.

Is it out on torrents?

>>213496172
>everyone missing
>lone survivor survivor is the bullied kid
>teacher knew about him being bullied
retard retard retard plot

>>213494783
Exactly, same room with the Batman sheets.

>>213496399
They did have a scene about the investigation on the house and the witch was prepared for that. They focused on the teacher, because its bonkers thinking the little shy kid could have pulled it off. If it was teenagers, thats a different story.

>>213495190
>the board where everyone gleefully admits they pirate movies and never pay for anything
>thinking studios want to advertise to that group

>>213491713
you can probably make anything sound boring if you're being reductive

The mystery works well until the reveal is that it's not a mystery, it's just some bullshit magic. Still a 7/10 for the craft and suspense but when so much of the movie is structured around "ooooo what's happening?" and the payoff is basic ass mind control, it just doesn't feel very satisfying.

>>213495728
v good post. So much of movie discourse nowadays is people looking at the very surface level of symbolism and what they THINK something means or attempted to mean without actually breaking down what is there. It feels cliche to want the movie called 'Weapons' that has missing children to be about school shootings but what was offered as an alternative is bland

>>213496774
>he thinks genuine shills dont exist on 4chan
naive little newfag

Threads about this movie feel very inorganic.

>>213497052
most of the posts in this thread are criticizing the movie

i enjoyed it. i was curious why our showtime was at 2:17, but it quickly made sense

>>213491713
>>213492293
>movie witch does witchcraft
>underwhelming

Peele would've legitimately made the movie better

>>213491713
It's about white and kike propensity for child rape and torture. Basically MK ULTRA

>>213497282
?????
Glad you understood what they were saying?

probably the most interesting thing about the movie was the whole 'town covered everything up because it was too weird to possibly explain any of the deaths/vanishings to anyone' thing and leaving it at that, we don't actually see how the aftermath directly effects the town other than the kids returning to their parents in a braindead state for 2 whole years. did anyone tell the parents about the literal fucking witch sucking the life from their bodies to the point of becoming catatonic. presumably even archer and justine didn't know what was going on, since archer was put under the spell to attack justine after finding the missing children and justine was on the brink of passing out from being choked by archer. so only alex would've been the one to realistically testify, and he's a child in like 5th grade
i did like the parasite angle of the witch though, wish that was emphasized a little bit more than just, what i assume, is her using magic to seamlessly transport the lifeforce of whoever is within the house that she claims as her own into her body through the power of dumping soup nutrients into each host

>>213497522
it goes about 70% of the way to several different interesting angles and then just stops

Grace found it deeply disturbing
https://youtu.be/KvndHX71XxA?feature=shared

>>213498365
There was NOTHING even remotely disturbing about this movie

>>213491659 (OP)
Will see it tomorrow. Or Sketch or both

>>213498365
Is she cosplaying as the witch?

>>213498519
all of the children leaving their homes at the same time in the middle of the night with no warning is disturbing enough, but that was main point of the film's entire marketing so it doesn't really hit the same as it does when it happens in the actual film, especially not with the overall goofy tone most of the sequences have. and once that mystery's solved, yeah it's not "deeply disturbing" at all

>>213498365
Grace refused to review "Brightburn" because she thought that was too disturbing.

>>213498632
she does that every day though

>>213497522
>Possibly explain
>i assume
>we dont see
that was the fucking problem. its one thing in a script to not explain minor details, but this is literally the inciting incident and cause of the entire movie and they explain almost nothing. You have to infer so much. how unsatisfying.
>>213497681
THIS

>>213491659 (OP)
Alright shill, I will pirate it.

>>213499005
heh

>>213496774
>>213495190
Zach Cregger makes these threads himself. Hey Zach you fuck when are you gonna release that fucking cartoon space movie already

>>213498365
>SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Moist kritical didn't like it so its a hard pass for me

Is it scary or nah
Jumpscares?

It's a decent small-scale affair that for some reason has received completely overblown near-unanimous critical acclaim. It's not symbolically rich or deep, it's the opposite in fact. It's not piercing satire of current events. It's not narratively distinct or a piece of visually spellbinding cinematography. There's a few spooky scenes, but it's hardly a full on fright-fest. The plot's about as pulpy as a Stranger Things episode. It's just a witch who messes around with a small town and sows paranoia and mistrust among its people, a tale as old as time.
The best part is probably its acting and characterisation. Garner and Ehrenreich in particular play flawed, multifaceted characters that break the mould of the usual tropes attached to upstart teachers and drunk cops. We get brief glimpses of these characters, and an insight into their lives, but there's simply not much substance for them to leave a lasting emotional or thoughtful impact.
I wouldn't usually dissect a film like this had it not arrived with the rare universal acclaim that it has. It honestly feels like critics are simply caught up in the hype of a new, cool director putting out a film with an evocative title and an interesting premise.

>>213497347
I thought the movie was supposed to be a commentary of gun ownership and school shootings or something?

>>213491659 (OP)
>3/4 of the movie is a mystery suspense thriller
>last quarter is a comedy
so its Barbarian all over again

Literally the same character.

>>213499500
>other people do my thinking
R*ddit-tier retardation

is this true?

>>213502690
not really, I agree with him on just about every movie.

this board got so rekt by /pol/ that actually talking about the movie feels fake lmao

>>213491659 (OP)
I saw it. Easily the most entertaining film so far this year. Julia garner is weird looking but for some reason I still want to fuck her into a state of delirium. They really lucked out when that faggot Pedro dropped out and they got Brolin instead, he's excellent, and I loved the ending. The last scene feels like it's cut short by a minute or two though, very weird. Overall, it was worth the hype, which is crazy cuz I'm not a horror fan in general.

>>213491713
You're just going to have it spoiled online instead of actually watching it because people like you don't actually experience anything, you just watch secondary content about those things to waste your life away.

>almost 6m in thursday previews
nice

>>213491659 (OP)
>THATS GREAT MOVIE
>The whole tragedy, connection to the kids or families, were narrated and skipped in the first 5 min

I HATE
HATE
HATE
modern script writers and filmmakers
2/10

where the fuck are the handcam streams

>>213491659 (OP)
This shit is going to make $200 million holy shit the audience ate it up last night like Pennywise to a gentile child. Really thought the third act would damper the reception, then again Sinners is going to win Best Picture and Weapons is now locked for BP and BD, Brolin may even get a nom fr.

RIP Trevor. Your boy sold his soul and yours then made le "epic" confession using literal kids being spirited away as a metaphor for TWKYK disbanding and your death and Zach's guilt over the black mass tier sacrifice. Crazy that lifting Pulp Fiction's non-chrono character portrait chassis is hailed as fresh. Only upside is that Aster is btfo and Perkins is claiming the silver.