Since people are shitting on Ice Cube, is Tom Cruise's adaptation any good? Does it age poorly?

>>213564007 (OP)
It's kino

>>213564007 (OP)
>Does it age poorly?
I don't understand this way of thinking. Why not just judge the movie on its own merits instead of worrying about "oh this movie is old, I might not like it"

>>213564007 (OP)
Yeah it's good. Very subdued Williams score too, compared to his other work with Steven.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZWn6NBXPOw

>>213564106
A movie might legitimately 'age poorly' in different ways. For some it's that the audience will get the biggest impact from it if they watch it while it's new, at the point where it's reflecting the cultural zeitgeist in some unique way. For others it's that it's best on the first viewing but then isn't as good after that.

it's okay. the alien extinction scenes are incredible but Cruise's character repeatedly ends up in the Action Hero Chair despite supposedly being just some fucking guy. It would've been better with a less athletic star and a wider perspective. I would've liked the camera to leave Cruise every one in a while like how they do it in Children of Men.

>>213564007 (OP)
Honestly, it's one of the better adaptations. Nothing will ever top the original, but making it from the point of a guy with kids just trying to live, was pretty good.

it's lame, watch Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds instead for kinography

It's excellent for the majority of the runtime but Spielberg's sensibilities as a producer eventually step on those as a director.

>>213564007 (OP)
Spielberg slop. Lead character is literally a cuckold

My favorite part is Vincent D'Onofrio who is 6'5 and 350 lbs somehow is killed in hand to hand combat by the 5'5 145 lb Tom Cruise

It’s great and one of the best American films of the 21st century
>>213566055
It was tim robbins but yeah cruise had insane plot armor in the movie lmao

>>213565815
>the only good adaptation of WotW is a 70s rock opera
It's amazing how they keep fucking it up

>>213566055
Not sure how you could mix up those two actors but ok.
The kids ruined it for me. Typical spoiled east coast liberal douche bag cry babies. Have no idea why the father would have even gave a shit about them since they obviously hated him and were only putting in the time until they could be with the mother and rich new husband. I doubt the hate for him changed even after the invasion and survival on the road.

>>213564007 (OP)
-No
-Yes
was shit

>>213566055
>Vincent donofrio
Lmao

Seeing the tripods the first time especially having not seen trailers they were terrifying and the movie had a massive impact on kid me. Like seeing shining when I was 8 in a different way

>>213566055
How can you confuse Vincent D'onofrio with Tom Hanks?

>>213566409
Tom hanks and Tim Robbins were def interchangeable in my eyes a long time. Mark Wahlberg and Damon too. And God all those blonde bimbos that look like Margot Robie before she existed

>>213564709
He doesn't work as an action hero, a dad, a deadbeat dad, or a regular joe. It's weirdly one of his worst performances/roles ever, but yeah; the movie is okay with some cool stuff mixed in. Cruise was just terribly miscast in this

>>213565815
Is there anything to watch? I saw it recommended and went to check it out and all I found was an album

>>213564007 (OP)
>muh 9/11 metaphor
>muh War on Terror commentary
>muh Hall o' Cost imagery
pass

>>213564007 (OP)
>Martians buried war machines in the earth millions of years ago in case intelligent life evolved so they could ride lightning bolts into the cockpits and destroy it
Seems legit.

>>213566614
Yeah that part seems so stupid and unnecessary. It's been a long time since I've read the book and I haven't seen this movie but I don't understand why they changed that.

>>213565815
>watch
>a music abum

>>213564007 (OP)
If you can tolerate the annoying-as-shit son, there's a decent movie to be had in there. It's clearly Spielberg past his prime, but still decent for what it was.

>>213566914
I listened to that album endlessly as a kid. The pictures were better than any movie.

>>213566614
It's weird that nobody ever even accidentally came upon one while doing construction/digging a tunnel/burying sewage, water, or electric lines/etc.

>>213566649
If you ever saw the intersection scene in a theater you would get it.

>>213567510
It would have worked just as well for it to have fallen in the form of a meteor, and rose from the impact crater in much the same manner.

>>213564007 (OP)
its good, no idea how people rate it poorly

He killed a man for no reason

>>213564007 (OP)
It's excellent until Tom goes down in the basement, and then the film kind of grinds to a halt/loses momentum. But it is still kino compared to the usual slop we get today.

>>213564709
>I would've liked the camera to leave Cruise every one in a while like how they do it in Children of Men.
But the idea was that you're seeing things from his perspective. That's why it never had to the usual tropes like a boadroom of military generals, etc.

>>213566029
>Lead character is literally a cuckold
That was pretty brutal how his ex-wife was visibly pregannt with another man's child.

>>213567552
Wouldn't have been as punchy because visually the scene starts on something small and innocuous and then it spreads all through the whole area. A meteor the size of a tripod would wreck a neighborhood from the get go.

>>213566614
Are they even Martians in the movie?

>>213564065
it's Dakota Fanning screaming for 2 hours.

>>213566514
This. It was a very weird, unharmonious relationship that ruined two almost-kinos and probably had some shady shit behind it

>>213564709
>It would've been better with a less athletic star and a wider perspective.
John Cusack nailed that casting in 2012

>>213565815
>>213566553
>>213566914
There was a stage adaptation with some scenes animated to go along with it, they replaced the narrator with Liam Neeson. I didn't like it very much compared to the original album. There is also a PS1 videogame.

>>213569662
>>213566514
Cruise is great in those films. How bad can /tv/'s taste get?

>>213569310
The movie never specifies their origin, the characters don't know, so you don't know. We can assume they are not Martian because we know there are no Martians on Mars.

>>213570094
>We can assume they are not Martian because we know there are no Martians on Mars.
What's the weather like on Olympus Mons?

The plotholes took me out of it, right from the beginning. No one ever finds one of the buried things on accident, the power doesn't work but the news team can still broadcast from the truck, the fucking son who just has to go watch the army die instead of helping to save his sister just to turn up alive and well in Boston at the end, Boston looks like the power's been out for an hour while the rest of the Northeast has been getting assraped by aliens, what an unbelievably shitty movie and just proof Spielberg lost whatever it was that made his movies great.

>>213564007 (OP)
It's Stephen Spielberg's last kino before he fell off.

>>213570691
It ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. In fact, it's cold as hell.

>>213564106
Zoomers say that phrase when they really mean does the mog previous adaptions.

>>213564007 (OP)
It was always horrific. So, no, it didn't age poorly. It just stayed how it always was. A pile of shit.

>>213566055
It's always okay when manlets do this, fucking liberals.
Hate it when women do this in movies though.

>>213564106
This film channelled that post 9/11 feeling when the burgers thought they were experiencing the apocalypse because a few buildings had been destroyed. The aliens are symbolic jihadis who "come from within" and the scenes of Tom Cruise running away from clouds of concrete dust speak for themselves.

So yeah, it has become dated in a way, given that it's 25 years on and a lot of people are too young to remember 9/11 or too old to care as much as they used to. The cultural relevance has dimmed away.

>>213571026
>timeless classic literature set in England
>ITS ABOUT MUH 9/11
Fucking kill yourself you amerimutt.

>>213564106
>Why not just judge the movie on its own merits instead of worrying about "oh this movie is old, I might not like it"
I agree mostly aside from Late 90s-2000s movies that relied heavily on early CGI

>>213571052
It's an American film

>>213571026
meds

>>213571052
You're a fool. A lot of the imagery in the film is evocative of 9/11. And that's by design. Films take from their era to get their message across. Connecting the viewer to something they were familiar with helps cement the horror of the alien attack taking place. It helps make it real even for a moment so you empathize with the characters. Quite a lot of zoomers were born after 9/11 or were too young to remember it. They wont get it. You seem like just the type

>>213571052
The film is set in NEW YORK and is full of visual references to the recent attack. It's literally "Muh 9/11: The Movie," and that's fucking obvious.

>>213564007 (OP)
It's alright. Watchable but not a masterpiece. Everyone seems to agree the daughter was annoying.

>>213571151
it's evocative of the holocaust dumbass

>>213571214
>>213571156
It's just a shitty movie in general. This doesn't matter

>>213571151
>>213571156
The horror of a fellow human committing a heinous act of murder and terror does not in any way resemble the horror of an alien invasion in which the aliens canonically view humans as like farm chickens.
Clutch at straws all you want but they're like polar opposite themes, I almost couldn't think of anything more extreme.

>>213564007 (OP)
if you like day after tommorow and godzilla 2014 you will like this

>>213567602
This

It just gets better every time I watch it

>>213574756
>ET and Temple masterpieces
contrarian as fuck

>>213564007 (OP)
ice cube?

COME ON THUNDER CHILD
COME ON THUNDER CHI-HI-HI-HI-HIIIIIIID

>>213574792
>E.T. not being a masterpiece
You literally just broke the contrarian barrier at the speed of akshully, congrats

>>213564007 (OP)
First half is great, fizzles out when Tim Robbins shows up with several pacing issues towards the end. Robbins wasn't horrible, but the script itself at that part lost something.

The first quarter of the film in particular is masterpiece kino.

War of the Worlds (2005) is insanely kino and arguably the greatest alien invasion movie of all time.

The tripods emerging and turning people into literal dust. KINO
The train on fire. KINO
The ferry scene and the mass panic. KINO
The battle scene where the apaches come in with the angelic music playing ULTRA KINO.

That battle sequence is one of Spielberg's most thematically loaded set-pieces. Spielberg frames their arrival as biblical/religious salvation. Divine intervention when all hope seems lost and the myth of American military invincibility. Only for that moment of hope to be crushed and obliterated. And the biblical symbolism of the soldiers giving their lives to slow the advance to buy time for the civilians to escape. Mirroring Christ-like martyrdom for the sake of others. That even humanities technological might no matter how awe-inspiring is nothing compared to nature and the unknown.

https://youtu.be/F6NBE6THBCI?si=oTmfHU7flfzlgCwr

>>213564007 (OP)
It's great but the whole Tim Robbins segment could be cut and it would only improve the film. Revealing the aliens is dumb and the whole sequence is just to have a tense set piece.

>>213564007 (OP)
Dakota Fanning ruins the movie.

>>213564007 (OP)
The crazy dude part is fucking boring
Other than that, it's pretty good

>>213574756
>Temple of Doom and ET Masterpiece tier
>the last crusade fair tier
>the terminal fair ter
>jurassic park not masterpiece tier
you haven't got any taste

>>213564007 (OP)
It was lame at the time, and it's still lame now. The only part I liked was when the bolt first came down and the tripod first came out. The turning point from inquisitive wonderment to panicked hysteria is hilarious.
>>213571165
The daughter was annoying, but she's a little girl in a disaster. It was everyone else that I actually thought was annoying.
>>213571310
Day after tomorrow is one of my favorites, but this is ass.

>>213577724
>>213572748
whoops

>>213571052
And the original story was about British colonialism

>>213564007 (OP)
Its okay. You have to understand that the story of War of the Worlds isn't that great to begin with.
Everyone acted fine.
The effects and CGI was fine.
A little too much "well isn't that convenient" happens in the movie. Yes, I know the aliens dying from our air/our bacteria/a cold is part if the original story but them being able to make the boat, his son surviving, them not getting noticed and killed in the basement, him being able to get out of the ball cage its all a little too convenient.
Also for an alien invasion, you don't really SEE that many people get killed. It didn't have to be gory, but it was a little lame.

Its a 6/10. No bad acting, no bad special effects, but just rather boring writing.

>>213571052
Lol thousands of your precious Palestinians die screaming daily keep crying brownout

1890s British Empire people when they are the ones getting conquered by a more advanced imperialistic power (Martians)

Suddenly colonialism and social darwinism is bad and shit

Get rekt chuds

>>213564007 (OP)
there dumb plot like when race to robbie race fight the aliens but somehow survives
but it otherwise good

>>213578314
almost like H. G. Wells wrote it as commentary

the scenes with the tripods are great. Everything in between sucks and is irritating. Didn't need to be 2 hours long.

>>213564007 (OP)
i loved it as a kid and read the original because of it, which gave me a love and interest in wells' other work and pulp ficiton in general.

>>213578047
Shalom!

I remember yelling out "They got the river people!" In the theater and people laughing. What a stupid scene.

>>213578771
No you don't