>gets hit with some sock wrapped soapbars once
>fucking kills himself
wtf was the movie trying to tell the audience?

He was too fragile

>>213611843 (OP)
It was trying to tell you that youre too stupid to learn anything from it. Stick to ur teen titan go and rick and morty

>>213611890
holy shit only actual boomers like this movie, genuinely waste of god damn time except the cool action scenes, why do people glaze it so much?

>>213611945
sheesh bro ong why uncs glaze this diddy ahh flick

>>213611945
Sorry I don't speak broccoli head. I'd imagine ur vape fried brain couldn't really make sense of it anyway

This particular sequence is in none of the named source novels but happens to be a nearly shot for shot ripoff of a hazing/suicide sequence in the Japanese movie The Human Condition.

>>213611945
pretty good bait honestly

>>213611945
>movie ends with them singing a god damn mickey mouse song

>>213611843 (OP)
I think the point was to really emphasize that he was a retard, and that the military was recruiting people that were mentally unsound. Animal Mother further reiterated this imperfect recruiting standard. Still they were few and far between. The movie fell off after boot camp. The dweeb MC monologuing isn't compelling.

>>213612089
Not to mention his sperg-out on Hartman was from his simple midwestern brain being turned into mush by basic training. Hell that beating motivated him to graduation

>>213611843 (OP)
I like dead zoomers

>>213611945
>except the cool action scenes
lol based

>>213612173
Necro

>>213611843 (OP)
>have to do some push ups
>in the Marines
>fucking violently assault a restrained man in his sleep over this
Why were boomers so violent and antisocial?

>>213611843 (OP)
I'm sure he had a great future ahead after killing his drill instructor.

>>213612215
They didn't have cellphones and fruity pebble vape juice. Shit was a real inconvenience

>>213612173
shut your balding old man ass up, don't you have grandkids to take care of?

>>213612232
I'm sure he would have had a great future as a frontline infrantryman in Vietnam

>>213611843 (OP)
I was in the USAF. Our basic training was incredibly cringe and gay and tame.

We still had several suicide attempts anyways.

BMT is where they find all the true mental cases who snap and go crazy under the slightest bit of change or pressure. That's one of its important purposes.

>>213612232
Say what you want but he’s the kid on the block with a confirmed kill.

>>213612255
WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION ANON!?

>>213612232
I am serious when I ask this: why didn't he just quit? If I remember correctly the drill instructor threatened people of "not making" the marines meaning they would just head back home right? Genuinely a retarded movie

>>213612123
Jungle warfare is gay. I want to watch one teenage girl sniper harras a platoon of men in a half destroyed city KINO

>>213612317
They couldn’t quit because they were involuntarily conscripted. Boot camp is supposed to weed out the mental cases, but the training units had quotas to fulfill so they would just rubber stamp every recruit and ship them off.

>>213612377

>>213612317
Holy retard what the fuck are they teaching you zoomers in school

>>213612422
Is that what you wish?

>>213612266
Agreed, but I assume the murder of Hartmann is what triggers his idea to kill himself then and there.

>>213612272
i thought murica's military forces you to take iq tests? how come they still end up training retards?

>>213612317
It was a military draft dude there's no walking away not consequence free at least most likely they'll just strap a bunch of equipment on you and throw you in the front lines as cannon fodder if you cause too much trouble or they can't place you anywhere.
Even if you did do well in basic training they'll still throw you on the front lines as cannon fodder

>>213611843 (OP)
That the M14 was a piece of shit rifle and he wouldn't be caught dead taking it into battle.

>>213612509
Yeah he's footage of the test

>>213612538
better than a M16A1. imagine taking that piece of shit into the field and then someone trips a claymore and your ass is grass

>>213612538
NPC downloading his opinions from the Forgotten Weapons troon. I love mine.

>>213611843 (OP)
Clearly he was also raped. In russian army this happens all the time

>>213611843 (OP)
His name is Private Pyle.

>Piles, also known as hemorrhoids

>>213612215
>have to do some push ups
https://youtu.be/DjIOYOYIErc?si=ebB7smw6V_pU1AkG
It propably was not the first time Pyles behaviour caused them to do pushups.
In the Army group punishments are the norm and if one guy constantly causes them to do avoidable exercise they will hate him.
And Pyle propably would have shot the guys in bed hall if Joker did not come

>>213612272
>go to the army
>people shout at you
>try kill yourself even though nobady keeps you there
What is their major malfunction?

>>213612711
https://youtu.be/bnh6ZDKOVOI

>>213612672
Clearly? By whom?

>>213612795
>even though nobady keeps you there
Are you fucking retarded?

>>213611843 (OP)
He probably had no life/family/prospects outside of the military, which is why he joined the military. Imagine having nothing, turning to the army as a last resort, and you fucking suck ass at even that.

>>213611945
Exact definition of a 5/10 movie
Half of it is 10/10
Half of it is 0/10

>>213612916
Most likely but my point still stands. You go to an Army and threaten suicide because drill instructor screamed at you?

>>213613001
He did not join He got drafted and landed in an enviorment which put so much pressure on him (which whe was not Fit for) and finnaly made him snap.

>>213613008
It feels like 2 movies strung together sometimes.
https://youtu.be/oE342VvfKRE?si=ATMMrQZ_ltjMgj-q

>>213612711
lol yeah that’s what I always thought. Never seen anyone say it before

>>213613015
OK, since you're retarded, I'll explain to you but it's probably not one (1) incident, but an accumulation of incidents, with no respite and little comfort, all day long, for a period of a few weeks or months, and no meaningful hope for the foreseeable future.

Right shoulder, HUUUUAAHH

>>213612317
In a lot of cases people facing heavy felony charges would be 'volunteered' by the court on condition that the marines or army would take them.

I think it’s weird that he bottled it up so much that he had a psychotic break. He could have just let rip with fists on the drill Sargent or someone else. Sure, you’d get the shit beat out of you but you’d be sent to the infirmary for a little while, and probably the drill sergeant would lay off for a while.

>>213611843 (OP)
>wtf was the movie trying to tell the audience?
don't send retards to war

he's such a good actor that it's a shame he wasted most of his career on a shitty TV show

>>213612509
>iq tests
IQ tests are a meme that measure how good you are at puzzles, riddles, and math. it doesn't measure how close you are to breaking from pressure.

>>213613394
I think it's weird there's so many retarded takes here.

>>213613257
>felony
No. Misdemeanors, sure, at times, but never any felonies, ever. In the 90s, no recruits were accepted if they had any
>DUIs
>domestic abuse

even though those are mostly misdemeanor charges, and 90+ had to have a high school diploma.

The average recruit is a higher quality person than anyone who posts here, though the GWOT did see a precipitous decline in recruitment standards.

i stop watching right before they get to the "sucky sucky" line, can't even remember the ending

This is a movie, it’s not real

>>213611890
Unc clutchblastin the whole thread rn

>>213611945
Quit yappin lil bro

Created a whole thread didn't realise there was one already so I'll just repost my OP

Some anon a couple of days ago mentioned it's about mind control/MK Ultra, can someone redpill me on that?

Boot camp segment in WW2 movie
>The diverse, virtuous squad meets, maybe one guy has a bad rep or is standoffish, but he's going to sacrifice himself saving everyone later.
>Has a little friction but overcomes their differences and soon count one another as family.
>"We're fighting for freedom, gotta stop Hitler from taking over the world."
Boot camp segment in Nam movie
>Bunch of psychos thrown in a cage
>You know right away who's gonna shoot who in the back and call it, "friendly fire."
>"WHY ARE WE HERE? WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WHY DOES ANYONE EVER DO THIS?!"

>>213614784
Bro imagine going to war NOW, like 10 years ago the biggest risk was getting sniped or stepping on IED, now fucking taliban would have been dropping shit with drones on soldiers sleeping in fort

>>213614739
the military is all about mind control, you're not supposed to think for yourself

>>213614903
Obviously but the anon was hinting and something even deeper, that it's a movie alluding to how the elites mind control normal society
Not just "muh military mind controls us into cold blooded killers" which any faggot would take away from the movie after a first watch

>>213614784
There wasn’t much to do in the 1940s, one can only listen to the radio and drink chocolate malts for so long before jumping out of a boat and shooting at other guys looks pretty fun.

>>213611843 (OP)
the funniest thing about this is that it was released during boomer times in which beating your children with belts and wooden spoons was still seen as parenting

>>213611843 (OP)
white fragility

>>213614846
Now it feels like it's split down the middle:
>We're here to make someone rich and we all onow it, but we can still do some good killing these random sandniggers with Soviet gear.

>>213614942
ok I'm saying the MK Ultra take is retarded

>>213612916
you can literally just quit.

>>213614985
how can you type with your hands full of elite cocks
bootlicking faggot

>>213615037
It's not my take, I'm asking if the anon from the other thread a couple days ago is still here
I even said that in my OP
Not my fault you're a faggot and gave your own opinion instead of realising I wasn't asking you

>>213611843 (OP)
Boomers are neurotic retards with lead poisoning who can't handle what the average zoomerchad goes through in high school.

private pyle is literally me i'm such a fucking loser i sympathize with him

>>213615093
oh I'm sorry good luck finding your anonymous 4chan boyfriend again

>>213615136
Stay mad faggot
Not my fault you don't understand the English language and stupidly responded

>>213611843 (OP)
Shoulda got a gun with a shorter barrel or a side arm. That looks real uncomy

>>213612509
They take the retards and reject the rest

In the incoming draft for all Western nations against the Middle East, will I be drafted if I ask how quickly I can get a gun and be deployed? I can't wait to defect and just run to the nearest government official and shoot them
>inb4 they'd kill you before you defect
I would happily kill my whole squadron/platoon during the night, wouldn't even shoot them just stab them in the throat while they slept

>>213612509
they aren't iq tests but for grunts they do not want anyone who questions what they're doing, police are the same where detectives and shit are smart but the beat cops are required to not be too smart

>>213613779
I think its weird that you think its weird. Have you truly not figured out that 99.9% of "people" are cattle? Why are you still painting spots on yourself and saying "moo?" Can you not make them work for you? The jews have at least that much over us.

I cannot rise above. I say moo.

>>213614784
largely homogenous society vs. one where the cracks were already showing

>>213615384
It's not in his character to start fights, he's a little child in an adult body, it's clear in the first scenes. thinking the drill instructor would go easy on him because he's been in a scrap with other recruits (let alone the fucking drill instructor himself) is incredibly dumb too.

>>213615531
NTA anon but what if you bit his nose off while squirrel gripping his nuts?
most men would go down from that

>>213614784
>"WHY ARE WE HERE? WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WHY DOES ANYONE EVER DO THIS"
Because WW2 is was way easier to expalin.
>Why are we fighting?
>Because Japs attacked us and Hitler declared war.
While Vietnam was
>Why are we fighting?
>Because something something Communist Domino theory but we want to do it mosty by S Viet hands.
Also WW2 Soldiers coming home did not get screamed at by Hippes

>>213612418
>Boot camp is supposed to weed out the mental cases
What was stopping someone from acting like a lunatic so they wouldn't be shipped off to die in excruciating pain in some jungle?

>>213615592
military prison

>>213611843 (OP)
He got confused is all. He thought that was a jelly doughnut.

>>213615592
>>213615624
Now what if I acted sane throughout boot camp but then defected immediately after deployment and shot the first Israeli government official I saw? Hypothetically ofc

>>213615624
Prison for having a mental illness?

>>213615696
yes
or you can be like that guy in MASH that wore a dress or the Catch 22 main character acting just a little bit crazy, but that didn't get them out of the army

>>213615777
what if I shot an Israeli government official but told them before they drafters me that that's my intention? Hypothetically? And what if I didn't use any incriminating language just asked when I would be deployed with a gun and where the nearest Israeli government official was located? Hypothetically ofc there's nothing legally incriminating about hypotheticals

>>213615650
>>213615850
Have you considered why fragging has essentially become a nonissue since vietnam? The powers that be got very good at spotting people looking to kill their superiors.
You don't act as sane as you think you do.

>>213615903
So would I be allowed to be deployed or not? I'm only asking a hypothetical
Also
>The powers that be got very good at spotting people looking to kill their superiors.
Non sentence, the powers that be refers to the elites, they would not have superiors
>inb4 you meant the CIA or government protecting like the same five trillionares
Then they aren't the "powers that be" but rather tools of the powers that be

>>213615953
"Their superiors" referring to the superiors of the enlisted subject in question, the "powers that be" referring to every roadblock within the recruiting system intended to catch and wash out those with homicidal tendencies, you would not be allowed to be deployed because you wouldn't be enlisted to begin with

>>213615384
I just realized I misunderstood your post, my reply >>213615531 was pretty irrelevant to what you were saying.

>>213611843 (OP)
I know it's likely a shitpost but the conditions in that camp were really tame.

>>213616036
The incoming draft is gonna request all able bodied young men to join
All I will ask them is when I will be deployed with a gun, they'd think I'm just keen to join the fight

>>213615953
>they would not have superiors
On a scale from 1 to 10, how indian are you?

>>213616078
if you pass first inspection, they'll still be able to sniff out your true character. They'll tire you out, keep you awake for 48 hours or however long is necessary, until you can't keep up the facade. They've basically figured it out like a science for a long while now.

>>213616210
Then what? I don't get deployed?
Boo hoo, just figured out how to get out of the draft
And then if I don't I get a gun and get deployed in the Middle East where Israeli and Hamas officials (Hamas is a Mossad funded psyop) live and I'll have live ammunition

>>213616293
All the best with your travels and journeys, anon.

>>213616357
Thanks king
Here's to the hypothetical deaths of several hypothetical non-elected government officials
This is just a shitpost ofc

in the book there's a vampire scene with joker. It single-handedly inspired glen cook to write the black company series which I am forever thankful for.

>>213612317
Every vietnam story explores the theme of fear vs fear of cowardice. Yes you fear going to war and dying but you also fear looking like a coward.

>>213611945
Am I the only person that never made it past the basic training scenes? Once they actually get to Nam I couldn't care less about any of it.

>>213611890
Eat shit unc

>>213611945
Made me kek. Thanks Anon!

>>213616486
>vampire scene
Elaborate

>>213611843 (OP)
His presence in USMC Basic Training in this movie was bullshit, dude would have been declared 4F and sent home

>>213616574
There's a full on vampire in the short timers. In a vietnam novel.

>>213616625
Like a man who drinks blood or an actual vampire? If so why didn't Kubrick adapt this?

>>213616520
womp womp only cowards fear looking like a coward
real men do not care how others perceive them

>>213613917
I have several retired Army and Marine Corps officers in my immediate family. They were most def wheeling and dealing with serious criminals in the Vietnam era. An uncle who did Airborn Ranger training got sent an actual serial killer this way.

Maybe they didn't have felony **convictions**, but people would be told in no uncertain terms they would if they didn't volunteer.