>The only good Alien spinoff outside of the first two films is a fucking video game
fuck this franchise

there's not Rezzurection

Aliens vs Predator 2 was fantastic too. There were also good novels, comics, and short films.

>>213630237 (OP)
And even then, despite being an excellent game, it's hampered by the need to play it safe and be a pastiche of the first film.

>>213630237 (OP)
>>213630283
>There were also good novels, comics, and short films.
This, the original AVP novel/comic trilogy is a fucking masterpiece.

Isolation shitters love admitting they got filtered by
>AvP
>AvP2
>Prometheus
>Romulus
can anyone tell me why this is the case?

>>213630605
Does that bitch get the predator dicking down?

>>213630273
I like Res, they over did it in several places and made it too long and boring, but there’s a potential diamond hidden in there.

>>213630237 (OP)
Alien 1 = Alien 2 > Prometheus > Alien RPG > Isolation > Resurrection > 3 > Earth > AvP 1 > Romulus > Covenant > AvP 2

>>213630651
>"filtered" by AvP2, the movie that's only slightly above Tubi slop quality most of the time, where it's often too dark to see anything, and its most memorable scene is only that way because it went for disgusting edgy shock value

>>213630605
I wish I could read the Godzilla ones but every copy is damn expensive

>>213630651
avp1/2 are on-par with freddie vs jason
prometheus, covenant and romulus suck ass
ridley should be forbidden from entering the writer's room

>>213630918
>>213630918
>>213630918
Bump

>>213630651
>you didn't like shit movies with a bad script?
>FILTERED
This is how low you have to stoop to defend this trash

>>213630918
cringe

>>213630651
>>213630785
>>213630868
>>213630918
>>213631560

AVP-R is firmly Ok to Decent.

Pros
> One of the most badass Predators of the series.
> Great Pred design & suit. Much more traditional than the Pred suits in the 1st AVP.
> Sewer battle & final battle are solid despite lighting.
> Sheriff is likable.
> The actress from 24 is a decent Ripley ripoff, better then the bitch from Covenant
> Great Predalien design & effects.

Cons
> Rest of the cast has minimal likability.
> WAY too darkly lit.
> The Alien suits aren't the best.
> Meh/Weak-ish ending.
> Small town setting is meh.
> The prego slaughter is almost too mean spirited.

>>213630237 (OP)
>the game was good
You mean the survival crafting locker hiding walking sim where you play with androids whilst you wait for what you paid for to arrive on set and if you use a gadget twice in a row the alien stops pretending it can't see you and kills you?
I guess when compared to the entire franchise and the new show, yes that is good.

>>213630283
If you're talking about Requiem, no you're wrong it was shit apart from the stomach pumping scene. If you're talking about the AVP2 game, I might be able to meet you halfway on that, but its probably monoliths weakest title.

>>213630237 (OP)
you can thank that hack Cameron for turning suspense horror masterpiece into fucking action slop / borderline capeshit, and the franchise never recovered since

>>213630237 (OP)
Aliens Vs Predator 2 THE VIDEO GAME is a better movie than anything released past Aliens 2

https://youtu.be/-latIFZ6xyA?t=1303

>>213630468
If you play conservatively in the first half of the game you can go ham in the second half with the flamethrower and bombs and stuff.
That's what I did. I probably didn't use any distractions in the first half, so all my arsenal were super effective later on.

>>213634511
Fox's imbecility for doing like Capcom and properly separating the two into their own franchises/spin offs just like Predator.

>>213630237 (OP)
Aliens: Dark Descent is an objectively better videogame, you retards constantly confuse aesthetics and actual good gameplay

I'd actually put Alien Isolation ahead of Aliens.

>>213634855
for not* doing*

>>213630918
>ridley should be forbidden from entering the writer's room
Ridley had nothing to do with Romulus and thats why it's the best alien movie since Aliens.

>>213630237 (OP)
Outside of the first film*

I should take over this thread and turn it into kinographia.


Aliens Vs Predator 2 THE VIDEO GAME is a better movie than anything released past Aliens 2

https://youtu.be/-latIFZ6xyA?t=1303
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbqY8kK-NEg&ab_channel=DeeALup


Go watch Lily CAT if you want a proper retelling of Alien 1979 albeit it sucks that it's only 1 hour, it really needed to be 2 hours and 30 minutes like the original, that's how horror works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAhxchX38rM&ab_channel=LonelySamurai%E5%AD%A4%E7%8B%AC%E3%81%AA%E4%BE%8D


However you also have this 19 minute flick: you get to see what the Alien would look like in 2D before Disney refused to pay the rights to Netflix's AVP anime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShGElGusepA&ab_channel=OtaKingAnimation [Embed]


Also if you want the true prequel to Alien 1979 and not Prometheus/Covenant you can go read Blame! & Biomega. Albeit it's still not as "mystical & lovecraftian" considering the lovecraftian silicon life was still originally created by humans and the gooey stuff is created by silicon life, but it basically does what Covenant does but much better.
https://w9.blame-manga.com/manga/blame-chapter-1/

It shows how Bladerunner could have been created since lost civilizations constantly lost technology and people can no longer even recognize a hologram and mistake it for a ghost. It also shows how many distinct humans and life can be created from megastructures extruding outside their planets to create life that never ever heard of "land".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffxo_6Cg0Cw&ab_channel=MITHO [Embed]


Perhaps creating an image such as pic related but actually good, with an easy to access pastebin would prove fruitful.

>>213634859
i came into this thread to shill dark descent
it's pretty good and also scratched the XCOM itch i've had for awhile

>>213630237 (OP)
1>nothing past here is canon>4>2>AvP>3>Prometheus>Romulus>Covenant>AvPR

zerowolf elevates this alienslop to kino levels

>>213630237 (OP)
Alien 3 is superior to Aliens and on par with Alien you irredeemable cock.

at first I was like

but then I was like

>>213630283
A v P 2 is a perfect example of how NOT to color grade your movie. There’s so many scene that are shot in almost pure darkness that it makes it hard to decipher just exactly what the fuck is going on.

>>213634915
>Romulus
'member this: the movie

The game was too easy.

>>213630785
Fireteam Elite is fun
I like it
Horde shooters are always good

>>213630237 (OP)
>a fucking video game
Why do you morons say this like it inherently should be bad and inferior? Movies have SUCKED as a medium for over a decade. They're short, fast paced and geared toward low effort mouthbreathers like you. Alien is literally perfect for an interactive kino where it can take its time and actually be scary since it's the viewer in control having to face the monster instead of passively sitting and critizing the person on screen like a bitch.

>>213634859
Nah strategic shooters are cringe

original cinema release of AVP2 was propperly lit, due to negative reception they made it darkner to make it "Scaryer"

>>213635502
actual retard that doesn't even know what genre they're talking about

>>213634926
>>213634967
This sequence was amazing and breathtaking. Finally after all these years being able to slowly explore the derelict in all its glory. So many of the scenes in Alien Isolation were like that. Like the space walk with the enormous gas giant on the horizon. Absolutely gorgeous game.

>>213630237 (OP)
Isolation revolving around Ripley's daughter is Lucas-tier hackery.

>>213633532
>but its probably monoliths weakest title.
Abso-fucking-lutely not. Fear 2 exists. Shogo exists. Fucking Blood 2 exists And the NOLF games are heavily overrated. AvP2 is easily in their top 5.

>>213635277
why do you guys try to use this as some sort of gotcha?

3 was alright

>>213635981
SHOGObros... are we going to take this sitting down?

>>213636006
because they spent money on cgi to poorly recreate an old dead guy and ruin their movie for no reason. that and the constant word for word callbacks to previous movies and having not-ash chase them around the ship like in i, robot made the whole thing retarded. a shame because the monster scenes were some of the best ive seen.

>>213636102
>ruin their movie
this is such an overblown exaggeration, nothing they do will ever make you autists happy and a movie like Romulus is the best outcome for a potential reboot of the Alien series, and it clearly worked considering it's getting a sequel/tv spinoff/re-connected into the predator universe.

>>213634950
Fun fact: this scene in Contra looks exactly like Kane delving down into the womb I mean egg pit. Originally they wanted Kane to break through something resembling a placenta or an egg shell, similar all those broken egg debris in this Contra game. There was a certian Jap man that got the entire game studio hooked on Alien and that's how many Jap games started copying Giger.
https://youtu.be/iKEzk3dsF9w?t=1070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UB-1-cWR0o&ab_channel=WorldofLongplays

>>213630283
If you're talking about the game, I kinda agree. I didn't expect to be rather hooked with the plot of the android WY exec.

>>213635981
>AvP2 is easily in their top 5.
Civvie11 would disagree with you on that. I know I am disagreeing with you on that. Blood 2 is their weakest title. Tron 2.0 is good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x_VBbYXbLo&ab_channel=Civvie11
https://youtu.be/752j8IUKJzw?t=1127
https://www.construct.net/en/free-online-games/super-contra-engine-sample-31098/play

>>213636408
Civvie is a fat retard

reminder that James Cameron likes AvP much more than the other sequels of the franchise

>>213636196
>this is such an overblown exaggeration(it isn't), nothing(garbage) they do will ever make you adults* happy
No, child, YOU CAN'T COOK WORTH A SHIT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6In79NK5F0&ab_channel=BreadBoys

>>213636444
Of course the creator of AlienS and Avatar likes AVP, he's a faggot. Cameron doesn't like detective movies like Blade Runner, Cameron doesn't like slow burning horror. Albeit he did accidentally follow the structure of Alien1979 correctly that's why Aliens doesn't suck so much.

I'm tired /co//tv//v/ I'm tired of my effort posts going to waste. I'm tired of being anonymous. I effortposting to be popularized and be known across the world.
>Then rest my son

>>213635981
>Shogo bad
>NOLF overrated
I hope you fucking evaporate right where you stand nigga

>>213630237 (OP)
Yeah and because Hawley is a fucking boomer hack, he's never played this and won't even acknowledge it or try to emulate it.

>>213636444
>>213636475
He's really just Michael Bay with more competence

>>213630237 (OP)
Always mid

>>213630237 (OP)
boring shit, drags for too long

>>213638746
The game is excessively long.

>>213634859
that last level totally dropped the ball though.
>spend the entire game cherishing your squad and upgrading them
>get no warning as you play as these 3 people and all those cool upgrades you spent time getting are gone as you have to play as the chick doctor and black guy
who the fuck thought throwing away your progress for the last level was a good idea?

play this instead of that 30 hour snoozefest

>>213634859
It was pretty cool but the hive/alert mechanic needs a rework, optimal approach being silent headpopping for as long as you can manage gets pretty boring on the later missions.
I did really like how all your marines have like negative attributes as well though.
Also this>>213638798

>>213636444
So do I, first avp is schlock kino.

>>213638902
The dual screen gimmick keeps DS and 3DS games from ever competing with actual great console and PC games. Even old Game Boy and PSP games are better just by not relying on gimmickshit thus being far easier to preserve and emulate. Wii and Wii U suffers from this too but almost all the worthwhile exclusives have already been ported by now (shame about ZombiU though). Glad Iwata is dead honestly just sucks the new President is a greedy piece of shit TPC alumnus who's made Nintendo even more litigious than they were under Iwata and Yamauchi combined

>>213639134
fantastic for those handhelds that they never intended to compete with PC or consoles, then

>>213639134
having a map on a second screen all the time is great

I will play AVP2 tonight

>>213639168
Yeah that's why I mentioned other handhelds like the Game Boy and PSP. DS only has Gen 4 Pokémon but also the worst Zelda games
>>213639180
It's not that difficult to open up the map the traditional way unless you have short term memory loss or suffers from a low attention span. The gimmick era is dead and it's never coming back thank god.

>>213630868
I'm sure anon meant avp 1 and 2 video games. Specifically the multiplayer.

>>213630237 (OP)
Alien vs Predator 2 is a fantastic game.

>>213638946
Even AvPR is just regular bad, with the unwatchable lighting being what pushes it to outright bad. Meanwhile Resurrection, Prometheus and Covenant are already awful before getting into technical issues. And Romulus shouldn't even be considered a movie with how hard it tries to apologize over the aborted prequels with memberberries (but still not having the guts to disallow them because daddy Ridley would bitch and cry if his garbage got the treatment it deserves)

>>213630778
that plus they silly french humor the film is riddled with

>>213630237 (OP)
touch grass/have sex please

my favorite horror SciFi videogame is dead space, weird how it was never adapted.
Chronicles of Riddick is the only other movie based game on par with Alien isolation however

>>213630237 (OP)
Anyone play Alien: Isolation in VR? Was it scary?

>>213630237 (OP)
Prometheus and covenant were good

>>213639989
Yes, super immersive and the stomps were extra loud making you want to have a heart attack. But I also wanted to just slowly wander around the areas looking at everything, especially out the windows at the gas giant. Very pretty game

>>213639742
Brilliant game. Although if they'd have to adapt it, it'll have to be a prequel like that animated movie. How the entire ship got infected and killed. And end it with Isaac coming on board. Can't have the entire movie focused on Isaac. That or give the rest of the crew a bigger role.

>>213636408
>civvie would
who the fuck cares he's a random guy that doesn't know you why are you placing his opinion on a pedestal

>>213630237 (OP)
>It's not one xeno, but multiple xenos.
Kino as fuck.

>>213641402
That was so great. The game pulled off most twists very well. Except at the end. It seemed like they had a box of half a dozen unused ideas left over and decided to toss them all in at the end and it was bad

>>213641402
>>213642292
It was great. Reminded me of Metroid Fusion

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdZugR0wc7bMdKwb6BCdGqNAvZBI5W3pt
For anyone interested, they made the game into a Digital Series on youtube, almost like a little movie. It does have some extra footage even after the game ends

>>213635129
I like

>>213635129
Ricardo was a bro. I hated to see him go out like that. Samuels too

>>213643994
>Samuels
I thought Samuels was going to be a bad guy, with the way you watched him take out a working Joe from the vent.

>>213644045
The working joes were great. I'm shocked they haven't put them in the movies yet

>>213630237 (OP)
Will the sequel be any good? I really hope they picked a new protagonist. Amanda's story is done

>>213645347
Thinking about them makes me want to replay it again.
Really hope the sequel is good.
>>213646504
Idk if any of the team are coming back.
My guess is that would determine the quality.

>>213634873
way too long and the alien is cheating (and the alien cheating can't be disabled without mods... Doom 3 "can't use flashlight with weapon unholstered" syndrome)

>>213632728
>You mean the survival crafting locker hiding walking sim where you play with androids whilst you wait for what you paid for to arrive on set and if you use a gadget twice in a row the alien stops pretending it can't see you and kills you?

Honestly man just play it late at night in the dark

>>213634907