redpill me on Death Stranding

>>213633029 (OP)
Kino.

>>213633029 (OP)
Everything wrong with modern video games.
The writing is so bad it had me in tears of laughter towards the end. I just couldn't stop.

>>213633029 (OP)
Globohomo good, freedom bad. There you go

>>213633029 (OP)
>>213633071
>>213633289
>>213633350
incels

>>213633029 (OP)
Shouldn’t you be asking the video game board this

>>213633368
they don't like video games where you can't be a girl or a twink

>>213633029 (OP)
>I'm Fragile, but not that Fragile
This is the writing people praise Kojima for.

>>213633358
Faggot

>>213633029 (OP)
Walking Simulator

You're a courier in the Ghost Apocalypse and some Egyptian larper wants to bring about the extinction of mankind by kidnapping blondes with superpowers.

YOU DELIVER THE BOXES OF CUDDLY TOYS
YOU THROW BLOOD GRENADES AT GHOSTS
YOU BEAT THE MENTALLY ILL UNCONSCIOUS
YOU HAVE TO KEEP ON KEEPING ON I'M SAM

>>213633029 (OP)
It's better to experience it than explain it. Trust me, the games are both good, but the second one has one hell of a homerun of quality of life enhancements as well as a slam bang finish to the story. I can't recommend playing these games enough, but best experienced with a controller for sure. The controller isn't just a tool you use to engage with the world, it's a medium for the world to engage with you.

>>213633029 (OP)
Really fun game, interesting story/world.
Awful characters/dialog.

Kojima just needs to get someone to tardwrangle his ass into not making every character a cringefest with a funny name that speaks entirely in exposition and his games would be unironic 10/10s.

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>>213633538
Accurate but you're forgetting mega internet that helps people on the network fabricate endless gadgets and gizmos, provided they're inorganic.

>>213633393
/v/ truke. I don’t even go on that board anymore because of that

>tfw need 100 metal 100 chemicals 100 resins 100 special alloy and 9001 ceramics

>>213633408
Okay Mister Smarty-Pants, who was the other Fragile?

>>213633695
real

uber eats simulator

>>213633575
I just finished 2 and enjoyed it ten times more after I started skipping all the cutscenes and dialogue (started doing that after a couple of hours)

>>213633029 (OP)
Best original Sci-Fi movie in the past decade and-a-half, and it's a videogame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcuFJXgU6cA

my number one quality in games is immersion and the part near the end of the first game without Lou had me bricked up on immersion

I never interacted with online material about it but I felt like fucking Neo when I noticed BTs always block raindrops so you don't even need Lou
the game never mentions this
depth, kino, levelution, etc.

The chiral tar of the beach is making Lou fragile, Sam. Fragile is dead and her ka and ha is separated, she's dying very slowly. Because of time dilation. The beach makes everything super slow. Or not, because the beach is super quick for Lou/Tomorrow.
Lou is in the beach and grew up to be tomorrow. Higgs is in the beach for millenia. None of this makes sense, Sam, because Kojima is a hack
>Higgs is Solidus
>colonel from mgs2 is just Charlie/die hard man
>end fight against higgs in 1 and 2 is just the fight against ocelot in mgs4
Kojima should just retire

>>213633029 (OP)
It's an accurate depiction of the delivery worker experience

>>213634095
except the recipients are much more appreciative

I might have overdone it a little bit, I just love picking up everything and recycling it into materials

>>213633358
>implying incels aren't over 50% of DS players

play it but don't play it online
online ruins the experiance of solitude and hiking

>>213634172
I didn't know this could happen

I love Kojima's work but fucking hell I wish he hired an editor to rip out approx 40-50% of his script.

>>213634189
>he doesn't enjoy conquering the area solo and bringing into the network to then have other players help alongside you
the online was kino, I fucking loved making a highway

>>213634191
Was a pain in the ass to go to all the private lockers from other players where I stored random stuff and empty out the private lockers, unnecessary self-inflicted wound

>>213634212
>can roads break down? Let's Google this
>permanent structures can't be destroyed according to some redditor
Cool, let's wander into off-network areas and just build the roads
>road is ruined
>have to restore it again
To be fair it took a long time before it got ruined, so repair it or it will be destroyed by timefall

>>213634191
I even mushed all materials into bigger containers (400xl metal into 750xl)

Cinema is dead.

>>213634172
I just started donating all my stuff away.
>>213633695
I hope that some of my 600xl ceramics containers landed in your world.

Now that Refn's daughters are big time Hollywood actresses, what can we expect from them?

>>213633029 (OP)
didn't play much. I Just remember it was one of those overcomplicated sci fi stories probably created to explain game mechanics. Sci Fi is really the one genre where the Japanese should just give up. I stopped playing at the part where you had to carry your dead mothers body on your back and run up hills and shit and I tripped or something because the dude looked like a tard carrying all that shit like a drunk sherpa

>>213634356
Fuck them bitches. Still at 4 stars.

>>213634370
neither of them are as bad as the aero engineer

>>213634361
That's like 30 minutes into the game.

NUDE LOLI ELLE FANNING

>>213634380
Not there yet, might be why it's not progressing that fast. Not that many standard orders for them, but I carry, no exaggeration, 30 pieces of lost cargo to one of them hoes and only get a tiny sliver of progress.

>>213634423
yeah lost cargo doesn't do shit
just gotta keep doing orders

>>213634423
You're not even halfway through the game and you're complaining that you aren't maxing shit out. Stop being a bitch.

I started having fun with it by just forcing myself not to think too hard about the story and characters and just go with it.

The gameplay itself starts getting fun about 5-10 hours in when you cross the lake into the second zone, when you slowly start to actually think about what you're carrying, plan routes, etc.

>>213634456
I maxed out all the other ones already, shut the fuck up

>>213633029 (OP)
wrong board but i don't care i love off topic discussion. lots of people loved it and found it comfy, for me as a life long mgs tard it finally made me realize kojima is a hack and i hated every second playing the game, like everything else in life you will have to come to your own conclusion

>>213634611
He had tard wranglers before (Konami) and his full blown retardation is now unleashed

>>213634632
the story was dumb, the character names felt like a joke or parody and the game play sucked. he needs tard wranglers. for all the shit mgs v gets i play it over and over again, at least it's fun

>>213633368
Ah shit, sorry about that. But as the old saying goes: if you want good discussions about something, take it outside the designated board.

>>213634792
I love the gameplay in all of his games

>>213634380
Just use the launch cannon

>>213633695
>mfw hoarding ceramics only to realize that I had built all the necessary roads

>>213633029 (OP)

Why does she look even derpier than in real life?

>>213633029 (OP)
The gameplay is shockingly enjoyable. And the writing is bad, but so off the walls that it ends up being worth it.

GOOD GOD

>>213633029 (OP)
It's a story-based game but with one of the worst stories I've ever seen, absolutely oozes the "I'm 12 and this is deep" vibe throughout.
If it wasn't made by a Japanese man, it would be a laughing stock in the industry.

>>213634993
>necessary

>>213635028
This dance sequence was inspired by Severance. Prove me wrong.

>>213634916
i normally do too but having to balance all that stuff just made death stranding a joyless grind for me, personally. that said i completely get why people like it

>>213635030
How's that lolsuit coming?

https://youtu.be/zaPl-J_RvAo

Why is our girl so talented?

>>213634611
>i hated every second playing the game
KEEP

>>213635003
>they took this from you

>>213633029 (OP)
Kojimbo at his most Kojimboistic

>>213634380
Aero engineer is fast and easy once you have ziplines set up on the mountain. The fucking adventurer is the worst. Takes forever to 5 star and you have to rescue his stupid ass four times. By the end I wanted to throw him into a tar lake before he caused a voidout.

Do (You) love Death Stranding enough to pay ~400 dollaridoos for a lifelike 12" Sam Porter Bridges action figure dolly?

>>213633029 (OP)
First one is a decent attempt at worldbuilding with a fairly novel approach to gameplay and subversively good characterization and character development. I went in thinking it was dogshit and went out really enjoying it. It's chock full of references to various things that Kojima likes but manages to establish itself as unique on many levels.

The second one is a dumpster fire that is representative of Kojima either pulling an Anno and shitting on the franchise and the characters out of spite or using it as a vessel to once more agglomerate a bunch of shit from other franchises he is interested in and dressing it up in a Death Stranding skin suit. That is to say, unlike the first wherein the referential elements existed in the background and added to the experience, the referential elements are the foreground and the background has been obliterated along with the characters and their development

>>213633029 (OP)
Pretentious answer is that its deep and a new form of gaming

Real answer is that its a comfy management game with funny cutscenes inbetween

>>213633709
The other Fragile is the friends we made along the way.

>>213633350
The second game walks this backs

>>213634201
>no

If you read only the bleeding letters it becomes
>EAT
>STING
What did Kojima mean by this?

>>213633029 (OP)

Boring UPS delivery simulator!!!FACT!!!

>>213634332
>Haha Sam, you're be burning to death an resurrecting in an infinite loop FOREVER
>...unless it rains
What the fuck was Higgs thinking here? Not to mention he was right outside a distro center, it's not like he even ambushed Sam in the wilderness

Will the A24 movie dare to go this hard?

>>213636647
Would prefer a figure of Margaret quality or lea seydoux.

>game is set in a post-apocalypse where everybody is locked down in bunkers, communicating via the turbo-internet and relying on delivery drivers for their basic needs
>themes are isolation vs connection, depression vs hope
>Covid happens just months after the game's release
>everyone is now playing the game in lockdown inside their house, relying on delivery drivers for their basic needs
>Ryan, frontman of Low Roar, whose music follows the games themes and inspired much of its development, dies of Covid shortly after the game's release
>lives just long enough to see his music gain worldwide appreciation
How does he do it? You could not possibly design a more kino release than this.

>>213638546
The A24 movie sounds like it will be a grounded prequel. But the anime might be just as crazy as DS2.

>>213633408
sounds very poetic, if it was written by shakespeare you would be praising it

>>213638755
>The A24 movie sounds like it will be a grounded prequel
I hope so, nothing was more peak than that original trailer for DS1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbGD_d2cGEk

Would like to get a ground level view of this world, without being bogged down by all the extinction entity and other metaphysical crap

WHY ARE VIDEO GAMES 100 HOUR MOVIES NOW

>>213638826
Only like 5 hours of Death Stranding is a movie.

>>213638520
>no voidouts
Convenient

>>213638730
>ds2 releases
>beginning is about Mexico flooding
>Texas has one of its biggest floods irl
Kojima's real name is Nostradamus.

>>213638781
If the character said this line once, yes, it would be poetic. When the character repeats this line 5 times and ends up sounding like a pokemon speaking its name, then it becomes a laughing stock.

>>213633029 (OP)
ludo kino

>>213639343
>made a pic where you can see Sam in the mirror behind them
>he puts the Polaroid in his room
>not the same picture
Disappointing.

>the deluxe edition has a giant spoiler as a figurine
>pay extra to get a huge 'fuck you'
Why is kojimbo like this?

>acts circles around a cast of hollywood actors

>>213639496
Fanning can't act and Lea was given the worst lines of all time

>>213639240
ur dum

>>213639452
It's in the fucking trailers and ads, retard-kun. Unless it has Deadman directly on the chest I don't see how the fuck this is some giant spoiler.

>>213639775
I've avoided everything and nothing got spoiled for me, retard. I'm just saying it's still a weird thing to do.

>>213639856
>n worder USA

>>213639856
Is his game for Xbox still coming out?

>MULEs are schizo package addicts
Bravo Kojimbo

>>213639850
And I'm saying it's not a spoiler for anything major like you are suggesting, retard-kun. Nigger really thinks I care what his experience was.

>>213639904
But deep down they have a heart of gold, requiring an act of kindness to unsurface. Double bravo

>kill those human NPCs
>let's have a void out in a merc camp
>somebody else disposes the body off-screen
Fuck you

ABSOLUTE
LUDO

Life fuel.

>>213640174
>only 16 likes
>doesn't have the apas like window increasing upgrade
Cringe

>>213633029 (OP)
It's like Terraria with people Hideo finds cool

>>213633029 (OP)
It starts here and the writing just keeps getting worse.

>>213633029 (OP)
Great game, cartoonish story

>>213640770
>mario and princess beach

>>213633408
Did you say Nerd?

>>213636647
no however i'm still waiting for my zendaya/Tashi figure from Hot Toys

>>213640629
Kino

I fixed every road and every monorail and I get more likes from the first ladder I placed in mexico
fuck you guys

>>213633408
You can keep the damage and the goods… I don’t break that easy

>>213641303
>placing in my opinion very useful structures everywhere
>most of them get 0 likes
>see a bridge by somebody else
>flat terrain, no enemies, doesn't rain that often at this spot, so not even useful in the early game to hide there before you get the timefall shelter
>200k likes
First game was better with this, I don't know, maybe so many people are playing it and placing it near a simkar5 spot and my stuff doesn't appear in other worlds? I don't know.
I've got 60k likes or more from roads, but that's boring.

>>213640174
They completely ignore any resolution with her and its really frustrating.

>>213641548
There's not even a story there unless you count retards infodumping mumbo jumbo at you. You tar chiral beach.

Is DS2 storywise better than DS1?

>>213641984
It's told better, but the broad strokes are clumsier and nobody talks like real people (but that was the first game too)

>>213641984
Worse in my opinion

>>213641984
feels more like a cartoon

>>213641526
Thanks Peko!

>>213640689
I hate how SSS only lets you like as many times as you push the button

>>213643228
A shitty Japanese cartoon to be exact

>>213641545
You get likes whenever someone uses your building. They don't have to actually like it. Useless bridges placed slap dab in the middle of transport routes in unimpeding terrain become like farms for this reason.

>>213643300
feels on par with most anime desu

>>213633029 (OP)
Great game with addicting gameplay loop and great graphics. But I think being open world hurt Kojima's storytelling because for majority of the story, the story is just a mess of incoherent snippets that you have to just trust Kojima would eventually build up to something meaningful. I haven't played DS2 yet because I am not a console cuck, but I don't think Kojima even ever explains what the fuck are DOOMS, you just have to trust Guilermo Del Toro he knows what he's talking about when he relates any strange bullshit happening to Norman Reedus at random to him being a DOOM.

>>213643666
DOOMs is what lets you detect BTs

>>213643927
It's a side-effect of being a DOOM for sure, one of many random side-effects that seem to be related to the Beach (like Chiral allergy). But desu, there's just no pattern to them, even the Force has more coherency to it, because being a DOOM is what allows Higgs to control BTs, and also being DOOMS is what allowed Mama and Lockne maintain their telepathic link.

>>213643576
Yeah, that bridge was sideways and kind of in the way if you were doing your orders, I dismantled it and was confused by the high amount of likes

>>213644054
it's an umbrella concept that Kojima can stick all the weird anime superpowers he wants into, like nanomachines in MGS

>>213633029 (OP)
>redpill me on Death Stranding
Its fucking garbage

>>213644190
keep on keeping on

I have splattered local porters multiple times while riding the floating surfboard

cock smokeman

>>213644335
I hit one once with a car and felt so bad I reloaded the game

>>213633029 (OP)
A story with some interesting ideas but ultimately incredibly corny. Horrible gameplay. Standard Kojima game.

>>213640174
Cute I need Blondie

>>213644513
see I've never done that
the car's usually too slow for me to get them before they jump out of the way

>>213633029 (OP)
All open world games are terrible because it's just like having a second job.

>>213644691
yeah Ive had lots of near misses like that but that time i was going downslope into one of the whatever knot distribution centers and they were coming up and gravity did the rest

>>213644775
gotta give DS credit for not having a skill tree with 20/40/60/80% more walking speed etc.

>>213641984
Narrative wise it's better, the story is told in a far more coherent and digestible way with cutscenes and exposition paced fairly sensibly throughout versus the gigadumps you got in the first game
Story wise it's more of a mess, all the wacky elements were doubled down upon so it's even harder to take seriously than the first game somehow

>missed the sticky gun and piss grenades on my playthrough because I never went back to Mexico until the end
I was miffed. I'd have stuck around if the game hadn't told me to rush back and stop Sam's baby being murdered

>>213645073
I would have missed the sticky gun too if I hadn't looked it up desu. I figured something was up when I unlocked the sticky cannon first

>>213644775
Yeah. All my gamer mates have still yet to finish The Witcher 3 because of this.

>>213645575
I had a buddy who'd softlocked himself deep in that Keira Metz dungeon with shit ass broken gear. Normoids just can't into reading stats

>>213633029 (OP)
Starts saying the big bang. I turned it off after that. 20 seconds in after selecting start from title screen. Thereabouts.
Not the winner of fastest corruption prevention encountered in a game. That goes to Hell Blade for pushing psychology. That didn't even make it to the title screen. Scum.

Also has a talk show host scanned. So it's worthless. I shouldn't have bought it.
At least Margret Qualley's sex doll came of it.

Haha, probably a great game aside from the degeneracy, and once it's going gets good, overcomes Kojima pulling on straws (cocks).
But I doubt I'll know unless I get desperate.

Play Returnal instead. It's excellent.
Cyberpunk 2077 too so far.
Metal Eden is the best game this year. Play the demo and agree.

>>213639452
He really cant let go his metal gear rex cant he?

Never played it but intro sequence to DS2 is pure kino

It's alright. Kind of comfy hiking simulator sometimes.

Other games that I played long enough to decide they were good.

Observation
(You play as HAL, whether or not you try to kill them remains to be seen, likely, as they reset you, you probably made aware their self preservation comes before something extreme, to them. Eg they give you enough power to keep them alive, then kill you, so you don't see something worth killing them over. Eg their lab was to make superviruses safe in space. Why would a computer care. Maybe you aren't a computer. Maybe you're playing a game.)

Can't remember more. But memory is precious. Mortal Shell was ok so far. Didn't get far. Observation either.

Machinarium is great. I pirated it and finished it without a guide I think. Used a guide for Grim Fandango, it was still good for it. Bought Machinarium this year. Console version probably ok, a pointer like the wiimote would be much better than a joypad's stick.

Got some games for young girls. Playing as girls. I haven't played them. Lydia, Dull Grey, White Shadows. Could be good. Maybe shouldn't mention them. But quality should get preserved. Stuff for girls or about girls being looked after is good enough by itself. Examples good enough to allude a girl is faithful enough to exist, hope for help getting better, or just there. Explanation insufficient but too good to touch. Just look after. Have faith in.

The Eternal Castle
Was interesting too. Spoiled by other concerns, time not abundant to let what's there be better. Seen. Have to assume. Get more of a kick getting enough to be assured it goes on well than to see it.
Time is Infinate. But investment is elsewhere, putting in is taking out from other priorities, though adventure is and should be high. Feel guilty shirking other concerns to delve into something and lose troubles. Games are a good cure for corruption. Before it's encountered. After and you know you're being greedy. Have a world to save. Another is more prep than practice.

>I know your voice, I know your face
>this is something I cannot replace
>give me hope and give me doubt
>well I Ioved you then but I dont love you now
>I'm a long way from home

Ah.
Beautiful Desolation
Is good too. No combat so far. Just exploration and dialogue. Good. Combat ruined Planescape Torment: Tides of Numeria. As far as I played in.
Good story. Guessed the ending. Maybe should keep playing, it might do better. Unseen solution.
Best played at 720p on console so characters blend into background. They stand out at higher res. Lower res worth it for the supersampling effect.
High res is one of the worst things to happen to games. Lower res with better AA would be much better. Performance then spent on visuals or action, or AI. Complexity. Culling complexity to have clarity is a bad trade. Especially less there seen clearer. What a joke. Money/education as usual being stupid. The wrong people to make decisions.

>>213633029 (OP)
>Lunar Devouring Mother & Vengeful Archontic Necromancer Son vs. Hero Twins/FetuSophia

Remember that Final Fantasy movie, where the World Spirit is infected by biomech Martian poltergeists they have to laser from space? Yea. Has environmental ability modifier of spectral zombie-ghosts that has a lot of potential as a set up. You need the Japanese punning and double-entendre for context to make the camp & symbolism hit right— the translator liberties (and Kojima's co-writer) made MGS1 what it became; for it to work it would require Kojima to have the humility to help localize it to Engrish so his ideas translate to audiences of largely non-tism normies. As for the story— insane prescience releasing before Clownvid you had to be there to experience, with some sussy occult elements and worse foreigner contemporary commentary on USA domestic politics, but that would lend itself to getting Hollyweird funding if anything. What he really has to do is be the first director of a certified art house kino adaptation of a game (Silent Hills).

>>213633457
>t. Never hiked

It's the ultimate land navigation game which constantly engages and immerses the player, and goes back to core fetch quest gameplay in a novel way with the asynchronous co-operative mission team play and infrastructute development that mirrors the haunting bad guy entities (and making the going hot playstyle different to the extent of altering geography if you fail).

>>213634289
The delivery bots HAVE to maintain the infrastructure; the rigamarole of keeping the zip or whatever route infrastructure up is why people don't revisit the game.

>>213645798
>I turned off Death Stranding 20 seconds in due to the degeneracy of mentioning the big bang.
>By the way play Cyberpunk 2077.

>>213633029 (OP)
First game: good
Second game: bad

>>213641984
Worse in almost every way

>>213633029 (OP)
tranny delight for HRT numales

>>213647313
>game is bad because one schizo leftist on youtube completely misunderstands the dev
Guess I can't play any games then

>>213647429
soijima is a radical leftist with trannies in his video games
the bioleninists are the only ones who intrepret MGS the right way

>>213647429
Not him but that is correct, you can't. You would degrade them. You have already sold your soul to the enemy and getting more, or aid as if you still had one: You'd give it to the enemy. You are the enemy.

You didn't understand either. What Kojima tried to represent saves the world. Stops hell. You spread it as if innocent by that.

People making the world and unbown to corruption are some of the best examples. Your coward parasite kind does it's best to degrade them. Some fall, and agree with you. Go along spreading titles for individuals to mold themselves as. Defective. Less.

You are worth nothing to me. Training is wasted on you. Put in the position to effect solution you wouldn't. So wont happen. Better doesn't deserve to be let down seeing such traitors entrusted. Expected.
Expectation of heroism is not for you. You have already failed, without a fight.

>>213647313
ngl those sandinista infodumps from peacewalker got pretty tiresome

>>213633029 (OP)
>thread is still up
jannies must be eating good tonight

>>213633408
it's actually an ok line delivered by an awful actress without any direction. You can tell she had no idea what Kojimbo was going for

>>213633917
>I never interacted with online material about it but I felt like fucking Neo when I noticed BTs always block raindrops so you don't even need Lou
what?

>>213633408

>>213649543
absolute cinema

>>213649543

>>213649171
>without any direction
Zero evidence for this, far more likely it was with full direction and the director is just mentally impaired.

>>213633602
All of his most praised games were written for him. He's a complete retard with characters, worse than George Lucas.
One of the writers in charge of MGs3 talked about how bad his writing is even in Japanese, so it's not a lost in translation type issue.

>>213650392
A Hind D??!??

>>213633408
I like it better when she says frajeel towards the end
felt like a solid shitpost

>>213649205
if it's raining (which it always is) you'll be able to see the silhouettes of BTs because the rain lands on them and not the ground

>>213647653
>
damn nigga I ain't reading all that

>>213645043
I think Kojima took note of DS1 underperforming for being too slow and decided he needed to add a bunch of quirky shit to the sequel so that ADHD /v/tards would play it

>>213644513
>See porters on an elevated portion of highway.
>Drive close to them so they jump out of the way
>One jumps off the road and knocks himself out

what percentage of Kojima fans are also Snyder fans? I feel like the crossover must be near 100%.

>>213651277
shut the fuck up capeshitter we're discussing kino

don't be serious....

redpill me on why there aren't child models in this video game