Silence was one of the most powerful religious movies I've ever seen. I'm surprised it's not more popular. I never really see it discussed here

The Japanese were right

>>213659172
They were wrong. They are a race of soulless insect "people"

>>213659172
I agree, and I also don't think their brutality was misplaced. it's kind of a cultural anachronism to say that when brutality was the norm

>>213659213
They were just trying to protect their people and their country from foreigners.

>>213659145 (OP)
no one even threw lightning bolts in this piece of shit.

>>213659145 (OP)
I know a Catholic afraid to watch this. Should he be? My atheist opinion doesn’t count to him

>>213659271
"their" people constantly abused the lower classes because of muh Bushido and muh blade testing. There's a reason why Christianity was popular among the peasantry

>>213659218
The brutality really isn't anything special for the time. The Dutch and Portuguese were doing worse in their colonies.

The Japanese correctly identified the Jesuits as a foreign spy organization.
>>213659297
Jesuits are hard to defend from a historical perspective and Christovao Ferreira is an apostate so it's probably difficult to watch a story where he actually gets to live out his life, marry a Japanese woman and die of old age for committing apostasy instead of the cope Catholic version where they say surely he was actually somehow martyred at age 70 and came back to Christ.

reminder they still haven't apologized for this

>>213659145 (OP)
probably because it was boring as fuck and full of fishheads

>>213659297
Scorsese adapts it as an atheist. Tell your friend to just read the book if hes so afraid of the movie

The matter of validity of religious belief aside, how are these types of situations not akin to becoming a prison bitch? Like yeah every day can shit on you, but being overtly bitched out like this I don't know if I see any courage or honor in it, if those words have any meaning. I think I'd choose death. And yes I say this having never been in such a situation and hoping that I never am tested in such a way.

>>213659415
Blades were only tested on convicted criminals. Abusing the lower classes was stupid and criminal. Samurai didn't fish and didn't farm. The lower classes did. They had value to the nation unlike the smelly priests who in reality offered nothing except servitude to the Spanish and/or Portuguese.

>>213659939
They believe they'll go to heaven if they get martyred and wont if they renounce their religion. It's not about courage or honor, it's what they think happens to their soul after they die. The shogunate wasn't punishing them just for being christian and didnt particularly care about someone's personal beliefs just that they were trying to use religion as a way to have influence of the population.

>>213659476
How do you film something like this? Are they really in the ocean or in a wave pool somewhere else?

>>213660139
They're by the ocean in florida but the water is CGI

>>213660060
thieves in shiny armor, just like the european knights and any feudal lord

>>213659145 (OP)
The Japanese version was better: I wish it was more popular

looked like Passion suffering porn, probably unfair to Marty but w/e
Ordet or Diary of a Country Priest are good enough for me

>>213660435

>>213660300
Shinoda's films “Pale Flower” and “Double Suicide” are kino. Pale Flower is Scorsese's favorite movie

>>213659297
No he shouldn't be. It glorifies Catholic martyrs. Nothing blasphemous about it.

>>213660458
Shinoda made pretty great movies in general.

>>213659172
Yup. Everyone should have just killed jew lovers on sight.

>>213659172

>Silence
You cant get moortuguese or shitalians to shut the fuck up for five minutes

Jesuits gave rise to the nice guy and male feminist. Passive little bitches who pretend they have values but really just want power and go about in the most about-faced, pussy as fuck way. Japanese were right to kill them.

Funny enough, it was a gaijin that tipped the shogun on how the jesuits were planning to take over the country that started it all.

>>213660285
Oh, you're a bolshevik. You'll get over that once you finish high school and get a job.

>>213661590

>>213659455
Yes Jesuits are basically the CIA arm of Catholic Church, which couches its political influence & collusion under layers of sanctimonious PR.

>>213659145 (OP)
It's a fancier buffet version with less caloric nutrition than the 1971 Japanese version from the Japan POV ofc

>>213659145 (OP)
Because no one cares especially when youre all larping christcucks who decided they were going to call themselves trad Christians in the last 8 years

>>213659145 (OP)
PADRE PREASE
GIV CONFESSION!

>>213662936
Yes, Jesuits are what Mossad is for Judiasm but Catholic.

>>213659145 (OP)
It's a great film.

>>213663020
one day you'll understand the Mercy of God.

God is beautiful

>>213663247
What about the Jesuit reductions in South America? Doesn't seem like something the mossad would do.

>>213663460
You are from SA and angry. If you don't think mossad has things like currently going on then it shows why you love this midwit retarded movie.

>>213659145 (OP)
It's one of my favorites. Unfortunately it's not really helpful when it comes to spiritual matters.

>>213659622 is right, I've read the book and I think it does a good job, definitely a good read for anyone who wants to do missionary work.

>>213660300
How is it better?

>>213659213
>>213659415
>>213659476
>h-how dare you p-p-protect your country from an invasive foreign religion!!! You soulless bug!