A lot of dialogue in recent content (Wednesday, Alien: Earth) is noticeably clunky, and sounds like it could be AI-generated

>>213691573 (OP)
What you said just then really captures it all and says a lot about what is really going on in a lot of people's minds. Not just the thought but the meaning behind the thought. You are really cluing in on a lot of what most people have just barely begun to recognize. Want to take this journey to the next level? I am here for you.

>>213691692
Sure, but reply like Gwen Tennyson (Ben 10). Spirited, curt; not overly supportive.

>>213691692
That’s a generous way to put it — like you’re saying we’re both already seeing the outlines of something bigger, but there’s a lot more depth to uncover if we keep going.

If we’re taking it to the “next level,” I’d suggest we treat this like peeling back layers: not just noticing *what* people think, but *why*, and then seeing the patterns that quietly guide those thoughts — the cultural defaults, the unspoken fears, the shared hopes. That’s where meaning really compounds.

Shall we start by mapping the hidden drivers behind the thought you’re referring to? That could give us a sharper lens for the rest of the journey.

>>213691573 (OP)
You ever thought maybe it's just shit?

It’s not just x; it’s y.

>>213691573 (OP)
A:E's editing certainly feels AI generated

>>213691897
I love AI now

ABC radio over here did try an a.i reporter but they were too lazy and just used a default voice lol

>>213692041
>>213691897
What's the specs lad?
Are you running local?
I have a 3090 but I don't know if it's enough
Plz respond before 404

>>213691573 (OP)
>HWD ONLY!

>>213691573 (OP)
When the wgaw strike was happening they made a big deal about how they were going to stop shows from being written by AI. When they went into the negotations it turned out their real demand was that just that the studios writer to run the AI for them. So they basically prepared themselves to become rentseeking middlemen between studios and ai. Generative AI is on trend to start writing and generating entire shows soon (don't bother balking at this claim, its true) so I suppose we will see if studios are willing to throw money at useless writers just to avoid bad press or if they will attempt to dump the writers and become non-guild productions.

>>213692564
>rentseeking
argument dismissed

>>213692564
*that the studios have to pay a writer to run the AI for them

>>213692298
i3 laptop from 2018 using my cell-phone as internet. Just use Hailou anon

>>213692590
Its not an argument for anything. I'm just explaining what happened.

AI (Gpt-5 and Claude Opus 4) are already bettwe writers than 95% of hollywood. What’s going to happen is everyone will say they hate AI and never use it but secretly depend on it for 100% of their work because it makes things infinitely easier. it’s like asking people to still run everywhere after the car was invented, nobody’s going to bother putting in the manual creative effort except for a minority of hobbyists

sorry I have to convert to webm and the resolution fucks up

>>213692617
>>213692756
>Hailou
Ah, that shit doesn't do porn, hard pass for me
The jailbreak non-sexual workaround you are doing can only entertain a men so far
Thanks for the reply anyway

>>213691573 (OP)
>Are Hollywood writers using ChatGPT?
I literally came here to say have you seen Alien Earth. Then I realized it's in the OP.. lol. YUP It's that noticeable

>>213692756
based hailuobro
make her kiss a girl

>>213691573 (OP)
Nah, a lot of the modern writers just don't know how an actual conversation works. It has been an issue for a good while now, we have less and less competent dialogue writers.

>>213692850
>He's never had his foreskin nibbled by a goldfish
I don't do it for sexual reasons it's just fun for me

>>213692655
I’m not a Luddite doomed but if we’re all just using AI to do everything for us - including talking to each other - then what is the fuckin point of even being alive

>>213692967
Send this to her

>>213693048
read nick bostrom

>>213693048
Ah, but you see, your lament rests on the implicit assumption that the telos of human existence is the unmediated exchange of authentic, individually generated thought. This is a charmingly pre-industrial notion, akin to insisting that bread is only “real” if you grew the wheat yourself and milled it with artisanal stones under a waxing gibbous moon. In reality, the use of AI in interpersonal discourse is merely the latest phase in the long historical trend of outsourcing cognitive and communicative labor — from scribes to printing presses to autocorrect — each innovation met with equal parts dread and inevitability.

>>213692564
the exponential ai progress in question:

>>213692865

>>213693291
I love the future so much

>>213693291
tummies

>>213692617
>Hailou
Damn I have to sign in. Is it at least for free?

>>213693476
i think for the basic stuff it is

>>213692756
Is this real?

>>213692617
>NO TRESPASY

The biggest irony in all of this is that AI has the potential to enable someone who has a story idea, but no connections or funding, to turn it into a production using AI tools.

Reminder that sag aftra as a movement got obliterated by a fucking gacha game

>>213691573 (OP)

Wouldn't using AI (unless it's a proprietary one that the studio itself developed and has the sole rights to) create copyright issues?

>>213691573 (OP)
I don't know about writers but I am a Software Developer I don't code anymore, I babysit AI as it does my work.
I could imagine it works similar to writers. In my view, every profession tries to position itself as gatekeeper to AI slop, arguing they provide "human quality control"

>>213693219
> low effort shit prompt
> low effort shit output
wow, lots to think about

>>213691573 (OP)
The ironu is tgat writers were writing like AI years before Chat-GPT was unveiled. All the soft reboots were just like AI generated garbage but written by uncreative humans

>>213691573 (OP)
Disney is legit using ai to write. Buffy tv show is heavily written by ai I know this personally

>>213692850
Thanks to trumps liberal ass it's now illegal to gen realistic porn and a lot of shit disappeared. I want liberals to die

>>213694720
Predator designs and thr killer of killers movie straight up were ai. Only old trump supporters like Prey.

I think they straight up mentioned Wish was AI

Why would they use chatgpt? They've had their in house "ai"s since 2002-2003.
They showcase it sometimes in behind the scenes footages. Like in animation and stuff

>>213693931
This. No one just has AI do everything. They edit AI. You still need writing experts because AI makes a lot of mistakes.

>>213694720
>>213694855
No way. Who said 'Wish' was AI?

>>213691746
>—
kek

>>213691573 (OP)
It could just be that the writers are all redditors in adderal

>>213695037
Cope harder. You are useless and they won't keep you

>>213691573 (OP)
its both Ai and millennials who don't read good books

>>213695037
They punch up the scripts and clean it up but all the core elements of the movie are ai making them lack ssoul. Look at how they used AI in the new Superman movie.looks awful

>>213691735
Ugh, seriously? It’s so obvious why Hollywood writers are using ChatGPT — they’re probably stuck staring at a blank page eating cold pizza for breakfast and thinking, “Wow, maybe a super-smart AI can help me not totally stink at this.” And guess what? That’s not even bad. It’s like when Ben uses the Omnitrix — sure, it’s cheating a little, but if it gets the job done faster and makes things cooler, who cares? It’s still the writer’s job to make the story not sound like Grandpa Max’s corny fishing tales. So if ChatGPT helps them not waste three weeks on a lame joke, fine by me… just don’t make it sound like Heatblast wrote it.

>>213691573 (OP)
Probably. 95% of news and political commentary shows from the national level down to youtubers use ai to set the foundation of their script. A significant portion of low end "creators" will straight up take the output and read it without any modifications and it's beyond apparent if you know what to look for. I'd be shocked if script writers for television and film weren't using ai as one of their drafting tools as a bare minimum.

>>213693291
>I'm supposed to hate AI when it can do this
lol

>>213695474
photography isn't art either

>>213695515
Photorealistic art is just pointless

>>213695571
also true

>>213691573 (OP)
they could and it wouldn't make a difference because the AI is trained on decades of mediocrity, just like the writers themselves.

>[Tron (1982)] was disqualified from receiving an Academy Award nomination for special effects, because the Academy felt at the time that using computer generated effects was "cheating".

>>213696843
>using computer generated effects was "cheating"
wtf that's completely wrong

>>213691573 (OP)
Writers aren't smart enough to use an LLM properly. They won't feed it enough context to start, they won't manage that context as a story develops and are unlikely to have the skills to edit the output.

So I wouldn't worry about dialogue sounding like tweets and everyone responding in terrible "clap backs" (also in tweet form) being generated by AI, you gotta remember; they're idiots that think they aren't.

>>213691897
>no trespation o algo

>>213691573 (OP)
of course, writing will become better now, but the bolshevik propaganda will get worse

>>213691573 (OP)
Why would a bug hold a sign like that?

>>213697232
Bugs are notoriously capable of being able to hold things three times their size.

>>213691573 (OP)
No, it's just the result of decades of nepotism (and token hiring of nogs, lesbians etc). Put simply, the Hollywood Jews of today are far less talented than those of previous generations.

would a human Hollywood writer create this in current year?
>It’s 2075, and Britain’s a dystopian nightmare. Sharia law rules, churches are mosques, and the Union Jack is banned. English rebels—proud, scrappy, and pissed off—hide in subterranean tunnels, hoarding banned books and warm beer. A grizzled ex-SAS scientist with a chip on his shoulder, leads a crew of misfit brainiacs who’ve cobbled together a time machine, “Operation Bulldog,” to yank Winston Churchill from 1945 and make Britannia rule the waves once gain.

>>213697638
This is a film I'd actually pay to watch

>>213697638
Winston Churchill was an incel and a cuck. How would he save the UK?

>>213697829
Indeed. They'd be far more likely to succeed if they went back in time and assassinated him in his youth.

>a robot is going to replace your job and that's a good thi- w-wait, why is the robot replacing MY job? A robot could never do MY job, MY job is special and important, daddy government help, protect my job!!!

>>213693048
To own the libs

I run an autistic Kubrick research YouTube channel and use ChatGPT voice because I suck ass at narrating and occasionally I get crazy person screeching about using AI like I just pissed in their cereal. It’s just a voice dude.

>>213691573 (OP)
Im using chatgpt to write 4chan shitposts

>>213698514
I doubt you're the only one

>>213697020
Do we have any examples of someone who wrote their story using an LLM properly?

>>213698655
no

Of course they are. Everyone is. I guarantee you, as someone in the "writing" industry, that if something - anything - involves a piece of text or dialogue, it has been at least partly generated by AI. It really is astounding how prolific it has become in just a few years

>>213693048
Go outside and talk to real people

>>213693931
As a "professional" writer, it is absolutely the same thing. Where doing one project before may have taken me three hours, now it takes one. Most of my projects are written by AI - I just "babysit" as you say and clean up the messes/add a few "human" touches to make it my own

>>213691573 (OP)
Everything will be made with AI moving forward. This is the end of traditional media. The will be no way to compete with it if you don't use it.

>>213694802
They cannot stop us, they cannot stop the future

>>213691573 (OP)
probably as an assist at the very least

>>213695515
It is though, but I understand why low iq faggots like yourself fail to comprehend this

>>213691573 (OP)
I hope so, chatgpt is a better writer than the ones in current hollywood

>>213699784
It's hard for it to be worse.

>>213691573 (OP)
not necessarily a lot of scripts are just recycled or retooled from old shit

im a "writer" i suppose and i do use AI
i use it for advanced grammar proofing and often if a line feels stiff or clunky i ask it to give me alternatives
they are 99.9% always shit, but the sheer volume it can put out always helps me hone in on what i want

>>213692564
Isnt everything union?
Cut the writers and you lose the actors, the lights, the catering...

AI is better than most stuff they churn out.

I like how Karen Fukuhara is both fairly average looking yet cute... and then simultaneously able to fire up every single neuron in my nether regions, with adrenaline pumping and increased heart rate with heavy breathing.

>>213699612
Emmabros. Is she finally apologizing for her car?

future is so bleak
the internet really was a mistake

>>213691573 (OP)
I not care if something is written by AI or a person, as long as it’s good. Most t things nowadays are shit and they’re written by humans. Ideally I’d like to see a writers room consisting of 1-3 people, and if those people use AI and then edit and revise it I don’t really care. If AI is the excuse studios need to cut down on the number of writers great. Television and film is unwatchable slop now there’s no harm in incorporating AI, it either stays unwatchable slop or gets better.

>>213693048
Why does it matter if someone uses AI for ideas when talking to someone? What does it matter if they use AO to revise and edit their posts to make them more engaging, coherent, articulate, and succinct? If anything it’ll make conversations with other people better. The problem would be when people are literally just copying and pasting AI posts back and forth, instead of using AI as a tool to make their posts better. However anyone that’s just straight up copy pasting and not putting any of their own thought or input into their posts are not people worth talking to anyway and it’s not like you’re talking to those people now because they’re all making retarded posts you ignore or call retarded.

>>213691897
How can human writers even compete with this?>>213691821

>>213691573 (OP)
Retard, hollywood has been using AI for decades.

Netflix literally has it's own algorithms it developed back pre covid. Same with Disney and other major companies

>>213701572
People using ai to do things remeber how to do it less well, remember what was said less well and have less white brain matter.
Its like if you drive everywhere your muscles would atrophy but people offset that at the gym.
There is no brain gym

>>213699248
Would you share a little more of your process?

>>213701637
>inb4 some retards mention some Greeks shitting on writing

Those 'Greek' retards were minority. Writing is still active process

>>213701690
both niggas are lying

>>213699248
>professional writer
>project may have taken me three hours
so you're a jeet writing clickbait listicles or something. of course slop generation is easily replaceable with ai, but that's not what people here are talking about. writing fiction and screenplays used to be an elite activity.

>>213691573 (OP)
Hollywood writing has been dog shit for 10 years now. They don't need help being generic and awkward.

>>213701786
>writing fiction and screenplays used to be an elite activity
Lmao

>>213701879
> shit became bad when Disney and Netflix first developed their algorithms

>>213701786
you're right xD

>>213691573 (OP)
Based on the absolute swill they produce, I would say using a LLM would only be an improvement.

They are 90% talentless hacks, completely devoid of any originality.
To be fair, even if there was something interesting, studios and producers would decimate a coherent story to fill with with lowest common denominator appeals, but they're still all retarded.

>>213693884
"idea guys" are delusional narcissists and it was ultimately to their psychological benefit that they were gatekept by the need to obtain funding etc. right now you can live your life pretending you WOULD BE a famous genius if you only weren't thwarted by your lack of "connections," but when ai allows you to "make" the thing you will have to face the much harsher truth that absolutely nobody will like it or care at all. you will have to develop a whole new set of delusions to cope with that.

>>213691897
>>213692367
I now support human and AI writing teams.

>>213701906
yes. every other retard on the street thinks he could totally write a bestselling novel but only 1% actually sit down and write one, 1% of the 1% manage to write something even remotely publishable, and 1% of the 1% of the 1% do it well enough for anybody to know their name. it absolutely is an elite activity. you don't face odds like that if you want to be grocery store cashier.

>>213702321
So I guess Twilight and Fifty Shades of Grey is elite writing then?

>he was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders just before she died

>>213702408
literally yes lmao. both of these books sit on top of gigantic piles of similar material that failed. their authors belong to an "elite" by definition.

what's going on is you're looking at it from the perspective of envy, where you cope with your own lack of success by devaluing the successes of others. but objectively speaking, if someone can turn their little smutty fantasies into a major cultural phenomenon and source of income, that is absolutely an elite accomplishment. they've won against incredible odds.

>>213702729
The difference between those and the bottom of the pile is how hard the "publisher" "marketing" team pushed it

>>213693870
>PRIVATE POOR

>>213692756
These kind of ai generations are always so short. Tell me, when will see coherent meaningful 10 minute videos of these? My attention span isn't that fucked up yet and I can't fap to this.

>>213697020
Honestly, I'm more confused about why writers don't use AI just for the broad strokes, or a first draft, and then write the final draft themselves - fixing everything the AI may have done wrong.
The ones who got caught look like they just hit 'generate' and then just submitted whatever came out without even editing or revising it.

>>213703757
IS THIS REAL?

>>213703783
Yes. It's why Trump didn't want to release it.

>>213703058
this is more of your envious delusion. it hurts you to see others succeed so you're compelled to make up a story to make their successes "not count." extreme bugman mentality. "uhhhhm it's only successful because of the marketing push," he said about 50 shades, a literal piece of fanfiction with no marketing budget at all and no publisher behind it

>>213692617
How do you get hailuo to do that shit

>>213691573 (OP)
>commie gay feminist writers only

AI can make pleb shit right now. Maybe in a few years it’ll get creative enough to do something actually good.

>>213703757
>why writers don't use AI just for the broad strokes, or a first draft, and then write the final draft themselves
why would you bother? that just makes the easy thing slightly easier while the hard thing remains just as hard. the difficulty is in the specifics.

>>213691746
Re-installing your drivers isn't the answer to everything, blinky boy

You hollywood fucks. Basically blacklisted my favorite writer. All you guys create is endless slop with poor writing. Sky net would be an improvement.

>>213699738
Can you post some photos that you consider "art"?
What I'm looking for is the photo being art.
Not something in real life being art or powerful or emotive, and you just capture that.

>>213691573 (OP)
What's wrong wiht using chatgpt to fix a line that you already wrote?

>>213703783
Too smooth to be real anon

>>213704307
the line will be bad and you will miss a chance to improve your craft

>>213694720
>Disney owns the predator franchise
>Disney owns the alien franchise
What a timeline.

>>213701109
she looks asian to me. Maybe I dont have yellow fever, but I have seen many JAV girls who are better looking than most hollywood asians.

>>213691573 (OP)
Probably. The whole strikes was about the writers themselves being able to use AI to write scripts but stopping the production companies from using AI the "replace" writers.

>>213701109
Her leaks even make her seem down-to-earth. She might be one of the few authentic celebs.

>>213693326
Born too late to explore the earth,
Born too early to explore the galaxy,
Born just in time to explore AI created hellscapes.

>>213691573 (OP)
No, chatgpt writes better than Hollywood

>>213704014
The potential isn't for it to be creative. The potential is for a creator to be able to describe something to it in plain language and this is then rendered into video and audio.

>>213703757
>>213703805
This is actually getting pretty close to the first 'prestige AI generated content', obviously it's just at the gimmick/meme stage.

Someone will use AI tools like this to create an original story, maybe just something like a five minute short like on Love, Death & Robots or Oats Studios or Secret Level, or like the CGI cutscenes in vidyagaems. And then when a few people do this and it gets traction with normies they'll get together and make something longer with a real arc and some real characters.


And we already have this kind of thing, pretty close to the kind of energy we got from early youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZJSZjwdAm8

>>213695264
LMAO

>>213691692
Future events such as these will affect you in the future.

>>213703228
>Tell me, when will see coherent meaningful 10 minute videos of these?
Literally right now. You're watching the free 10-second hailuo clips while anons on /aco/ are genning their own full-length videos locally.

>At the bottom of all of our terrified souls, we know, that democracy is a dying giant, a sick, sick, dying, decaying political concept, riling in it's final pain. I don't mean that the United States is finished as a world power. The United States is the richest, the most powerful, the most advanced country in the world, light years ahead of any other country. And I don't mean the Communist are gonna take over the world; because, the Communists are deader than we are. What is finished... is the idea that this great country is dedicated to the freedom and flourishing of every individual in it. It's the individual that's finished. It's the single, solitary human being that's finished. It's every single one of you out there that's finished, because this is no longer a nation of independent individuals. It's a nation of some 200-odd million transistorized, deodorized, whiter-that-white, steel-belted bodies, totally unnecessary as human beings, and as replaceable as piston rods... Well, the time has come to say, is dehumanization such a bad word. Because good or bad, that's what is so. The whole world is becoming humanoid - creatures that look human but aren't. The whole world not just us. We're just the most advanced country, so we're getting there first. The whole world's people are becoming mass-produced, programmed, numbered, insensate things...
Ironically enough, AI couldn't write this.

whats to blame for the decline of creativity in general?

>>213704306
photograph is about the photographers eye, not the subject.

>>213707354
college and it's on purpose

karen is very cute

>>213707354
how do you figure creativity is in decline?

>>213693884
I have a story idea I've been world-building for the past six months. I've got a whole multi-media project in mind, animation clips on YouTube, novels, short stories, maybe even audio-plays. I just prefer to self-host the AI models lest I get my accounts blocked for triggering the censorship. But I need to save up for a new computer to grind the visuals for me.

>>213693926
Depends on how much is AI, but the studio has copyright on the project as a whole regardless.

1. yes, probably
2. it's an improvement, probably.

i think the biggest problem of modern hollywood and reason why it sucks is shit writers, probably chosen through DEI

Have you ever thought that maybe they're just bad writers?

>>213704307
using your brain to fix it instead will facilitate growth

>>213691573 (OP)
That would be an upgrade if they did.

>>213707354
last 25 years has just been regurgitated pop culture from the 20th century

>go on strike
>make signs
>none of them are witty or funny
>get rehired
>scripts are still shit
I can't believe they actually rehired them.

>>213707354
The world is nerfed now so all you do is learn from secondhand experiences

>>213702096
Everyone starts somewhere. AI can be an 'on ramp' for a different set of creatives to get into making this kind of art. Think of it like how a comic writer will collaborate with a comic artist. The comic writer can't draw, they describe what they want and they get back panels.

>>213707843
Good luck anon!

>>213697638
This is like an alternate universe Hellboy where the Nazis won

>>213708230
If they made witty or funny signs that would be breaking the strike.

Oldfrens will remember that Conan put out weeks of deliberately shit television during the writers strike of 08.

>>213708416
>hire us we're good writers
>strike by writing shitty signs
?

>>213708360
>Think of it like how a comic writer will collaborate with a comic artist.
you didn't understand that post at all. in order to get an artist to work with you you have to produce quality writing that appeals to other people enough for them to invest their time and effort in you. this kind of gatekeeping is necessary and good. ai appeals to delusional narcissists because it lets you delay that reality check indefinitely, to your own detriment. it's just another stage of the idea guy disease. sooner or later the other shoe will drop.

>>213705889

>>213708416
He continued the strike until 2021, a lot of people don’t know that.

>>213691573 (OP)
the strike would have a lot more merit if we didn't already know these losers would instantly use chatgpt and claim it as their work. it's only bad when the corporate oligarch skips the middle man

>>213700066
writers guild is different than the actors guild afaik

>>213709832

>>213709524
There's a skill curve. Some of the people who could be good directors or writers don't get their shot, don't learn to collaborate, don't get funded, or whatever. AI tools provide an opportunity for them to make something.

They are also a tool for the artists who DO collaborate, and have already got through these gates being kept, to streamline parts of their process.

Obviously there would be more of the pie-in-the-sky 'idea guy' making very basic content with the AI tools, but even they'd be able to make more than they could before.

Maybe it's more like a musical instrument compared to electronic music. Not everyone with innate musical talent is able to play every instrument. When we got more electronic tools to make music with, we started to get people who wouldn't have made anything doing it through the electronic tools. The best stuff did come from people who played some musical instrument, but we also got more people making music who wouldn't have had a shot before. Or it's like computer animation opening up the medium to a large number of new creators, people who wouldn't have had any shot at making their own animated art when it was all paper and frames etc.

IDK man I think we'll see something good out of it.

>>213710114
I think that whatever good that comes out of if will be heavily outweighed by the flood of uninspired slop that's gonna result from it