I just realized that Balin is the same guy whose tomb the fellowship finds later in lotr

That's Mr. Ballen to you scumbag. Put some respect on our veterans names.

No shit, retard

>>213718865
If it were that obvious you would've written it correctly the first time.

>>213718955
It's obvious to anyone with a functioning memory even without having read the books

>>213718560 (OP)
You will never guess who Gandalf turns out to be in the LotR trilogy

>>213718560 (OP)
I have to say I never put two and two together, kind of because I really don't like the Hobbit, but Love tLoTR

>>213719113
The Fellowship book leans into the Hobbit references. Frodo reminisces with Gloin in Rivendell since he's visited Bilbo multiple times, and through him Frodo and Gimli already know one another etc.

dont they camp near the trolls that turn to stone or something? I forgot

>>213719113
Hey, I'm this guy!

>>213718560 (OP)
He is very coward in every scene of the Hobbit movie
>Better dont start the quest, Thorin
>Cant open the door, better go back home now, dont look for a workaround
>You know what Bilbo, keep the arkenstone secret
>Smaug is alive, lets run away

>>213718560 (OP)
ballin'

Jackson’s movies were just proto-marvel sloppa

>>213719822
holy fucking esl

>>213718560 (OP)
He is truly ball'in.

>>213718560 (OP)
Yeah, now ask yourself how moria had time to completely fall to the goblins and a balrog and balin to die and have a big ceremonial burial chamber that also had enough time to turn into a dusty ancient tomb where the corpses look ancient.
... without Gimli even having heard of this happening at all.
Imagine Boromir returning to minas tirith like 50 years after it had been completely destroyed and just not having heard about it.
It doesn't make any fuckin' sense.

It is and it's also a cool factor of the whole lore
Because with no more threat of Smaug, and at this time, no belief that there were other bigger threats, AND after a successful reclaiming of the Lonely Mountain as a dwarven settlement, It's completely understandable and reasonable that a party of ambitious dwarves would want to go claim other lost settlements like Moria, envigorated by Thorin's campaing.

>>213720062
>where the corpses look ancient.
It takes a measly 5 years for a body to completely decompose to the bones, anon

>>213720062
Eagles

>>213720062
Reminder that Gandalf was holed up in the library of Minas Tirith for YEARS.

>>213719527
Yes and even though it's one of the first things that happens in The Hobbit it takes a ridiculous number of pages to get to it in FotR

>>213720062
It kinda makes sense if everybody died who the fuck was going to spread the message? Not like they had cellphones in middle earth

>>213718995
But that tomb looks REALLY old in LotR.

>>213720166
if everybody in north korea suddenly died we would still find out pretty quickly. There's no such thing as just NO communication between civilizations or between different dwarven cities/mines. Word would have gotten out in the minimum 5 years that it was dark.

>>213720062
Explain why its impossible, did you expect them to call home or something? Please explain how they physically moved the information from moria to wherever gimli was.

>>213720062
Moria had already fallen to the orcs before The Hobbit, Balin was part of a group trying to take it back. Also Lord of the Rings was like 100 years after The Hobbit. Still you would think the talking birds would have been able to spread the word about it.

>>213719394
I knew of Gloin, but haven't revisited the Hobbit book or movies enough to remember all the names of the other dwarves. I love the Council of Elrond it's my favorite chapter in the books because of the passage of time and how reluctant Frodo was to accept the journey. It showed more that even though he really didn't want to he felt a responsibility- which Peter Jackson (rightfully so) shorten for cinematic purposes Also I liked the fact that all of them didn't really think he'd do it telling him he can stop and go home at any time (another thing kind of cut out of the movies)

>>213720210
Good comparison, im sure the dwarves have constant phonelines running, access to the internet, vehichles capable of traveling thousands of miles in days and satalites able to photograph everywhere in middle earth.

>>213720210
>if everybody in north korea suddenly died
This was a party of thousands of dwarves that went into Moria
They were going to re-build the city
If you tell me 5 thousand Korean men are going to an Island to build a city, why would I go and check if they are still there?
Nobody lives around Moria, Galadriel is the closest bunch and they don't leave their forest either

>>213720293
THE WORLD HAS LITERAL MAGICAL AND CANON MAGICAL COMMUNICATION DEVICES AND GANDALF ALREADY KNOWS SO WORD HAS CLEARLY MADE IT OUT!

>>213720425
Calm down friend. Don’t forget the talking eagles.

>>213720425
You mean the super rare long forgotten magical spheres that were limited to one room and in control of the super evil magical god who wanted to murder all live? Good argument...

Oh but the super secret wizard who is in a direct line with the literal god knew something went wrong so why didnt the dwarves broadcast it around the world... its not like this super secretive wizard might keep this information to himself.

>>213718560 (OP)
Based. Balin was one of the 3 or 4 dwarves that actually had any personality in that film.

In the book Thorin was actually the oldest dwarf, but I liked that the movie made him younger and had Balin be a mentor character.

>>213720062
the group they sent to flee still got killed anon, no one knew it even happened because dead men tell no tales

>>213720293

One would assume Balin sent word back to the Lonely Mountain and the Iron Hills that he arrived at Moria etc.

One would also assume other dwarves would show up at Moria from time to time after hearing that Balin had gone there.

>>213721183
No they wouldnt because dwarves dont like to travel, especially not through the lands of other races they dont trust and especially not over such a giant distance. Plus they had constant wars with the goblins and men of the east or west.

The part in the moria chapter where they find the records of what the dwarf expedition encountered was surprisingly creepy when I finally read the books. Though changing the rushing orc into a troll and turning the balrog into a fire demon were changes that I did not hate retroactively.

>>213721471
but enough about your homoerotic fanfiction

>>213720198
the hobbit is 60 years before the start of lord of the rings and 77 years before they set out for mount doom in the books, plenty of time for that tomb to gather dust

>>213720062
That's the sort of problem you deal with when you live a 3 day walk from the surface

>>213723433
90% of dwarves would live within a mile from tge surface like 90% of canada lives close to the US

>>213723637
That's not where the Mythril is