When was the exact point the MCU officially jumped the shark?

>>213759588 (OP)
the moment they decided to make an "MCU" instead of just making good movies that stood on their own. Fuck "cinematic universe" bullshit

>>213759588 (OP)
I stopped watching after Civil War. I haven't seen anything after it except Infinity War and Endgame and I didn't see the first Antman either. I just had a look and there's 23 MCU films I haven't seen. Fuck me.

This entire series. This one show made Marvel execs fire a whole staff of women and woke male writers which helped but he damage was already done

>>213759669
The narcissism on this delusional woman.

Iron Man 3

>>213759618
So anything after Iron Man 1? Literally Thor 1?

>>213759760
>after
Naw the post credits scene did it

>>213759618
This

>>213759588 (OP)
What is the endgame of the infantilizatilon of grown men?
>MUH CAPESHIT SUPAHPOWWHS
>MUH ETERNAL CHILDHOOD
It was baffling to me even as far back as fucking 2002, with Muh Spiderman, grown men, ex fucking military men, wandering around in public with fucking spiderman merch. When is this gay fucking trend finally going to suicide itself?
Fuck sake.

>>213759588 (OP)
When Disney bought Marvel, so Iron Man 2.

>>213759588 (OP)
In actuality, Thor in 2011. For general audiences, anything after Endgame.

Hulk wasn't particularly good but it still felt like an actual movie, and Iron Man 2 can still be considered a generic sequel. But the whole "let's make the entire a movie a commercial...for the next movie!" properly started with Thor and Captain America.

>>213759588 (OP)
They're still wearing a full layer of normal clothes under that. It don't make no damn sense.

>>213759588 (OP)
Holy shit that looks atrocious.
That is some actual unironic youtube tier cg. The arms don't even match up.

>>213759588 (OP)
imagine outsourcing your CGI to India

>>213759823
Grown men have more money than children and can consume more product while getting excited for next product.

>>213759669
The heroes are the villains and the villains are the heroes. Just like when they wrote Captain America: Israeli Gaza Conflict.

>>213759588 (OP)
>When was the exact point the MCU officially jumped the shark?

>>213759588 (OP)
What the fuck, what's the explanation for this shit?

>>213759588 (OP)
This is AI, right???
RIGHT?

>>213759588 (OP)
It never actually jumped the shark because it was gradual. I think the first time I cringed was in Avengers 2 when Black Widow and Hawkeye are talking about interior decoration while fighting an army of robots about to destroy the world. Then the first time I cringed at the visuals was Civil War. The first Hulk also look kinda terrible but it's from 2008. Civil War was the first time where it feels they went backward in terms of visuals.

>>213759669
>am expert at anger control, le stupid male
>nooo dont show me on screen am angy raaaa
pottery

>>213759588 (OP)
No fucking way this is real!

The movies all suck. The formula just got old, and people perceive that as a decline in quality because of "wokeness."

>>213759588 (OP)
Nanosuits

>>213759669
>should we maybe have the actress deliver this line in a way where she seems like she's controlling her anger well?
>nah I'm sure it's fine, we'll use this take

>>213759588 (OP)
>when he points the webbrowser towards jellyfin

>>213759588 (OP)
What is even happening here? Nanomachine suits are so fucking lazy.

>>213759669
They're really butthurt about being called emotional, it's like the worst trauma to them.

>>213759588 (OP)
>hits her chest
>costume doesn't appear but all of her clothes disappear
If only.

>>213759588 (OP)
im so glad I stopped watching with everyone else at Endgame

no fuckin respect for the viewer, get the fuck outta here with these magically appearing helmets and suits

>>213759588 (OP)
God I hate the nanotech faggotry.

>>213760875
>The first Hulk also look kinda terrible but it's from 2008
Bana Hulk was 2003 iirc. Thats what looks terrible. 2008 Norton Hulk was infinitely better. Also Norton was infinitely better than the wormy fuck we got, he was the worst Banner ever

>>213759588 (OP)
Going from Paramount to Disney

>>213759961
CA1 literally has only 2 parts and the 3rd is nothing but matte/CGI background filler with blam! the end and Avengers hook
It felt like they wrote half a movie then said "fuck it" or just decided to ship it

>>213759588 (OP)
Iron man 3.

>>213759588 (OP)
This looks like AI

>>213764209
I was so hyped for Ed Norton in the Avengers but, nope, I actually enjoyed their movies so I had to go fuck myself.

When they killed of Earth's Mightiest Heroes for a tie in cartoon.
It may not seem like it, but that is bad mojo

>>213760529
The insta-costumes? Nanotechnology. Yeah, it's dumb.

>>213759588 (OP)
When they refused to give her a giantess suit

>>213765571
Look how fucking janky that head turn is.

>>213765503
But what are they even pressing?

>>213765696
I think the implication is they have a 'deploy costume' button hidden in their shirts or something.

>>213759588 (OP)
The moment they turned into unfunny comedies full of dumbass jokes, so I'd say either Thor 1 or the first Avengers movie.

>>213765762
I was gonna say Iron Man is the same but that at least has the excuse that they made Tony's character like that
Everyone else in the subsequent quips regardless of character

>>213765784
subsequent movies*

>>213759588 (OP)
The Nick Fury show with Dany getting the Quagmire arm

>>213759588 (OP)
I'd say they still had some goodwill after Endgame, people gave the first few MCU shows a chance but it quickly went away

>>213766179
You mean people didn't like Disney turning Wanda evil and then killing her off??

>>213765176
Norton Hulk would be a character you can give a damn because Norton can actually act
Ruffalow is just some fucking slimey 1 dimensional hack that shouldn't be in movies. He has no draw. He must've had the perfect connections to get into the industry. I can't think of a single role of his where he doesn't act like some wimpy snot nosed meek asshat. It's the same role in every movie.

>>213765863
kek

Idk, last movie I watched was Spider Man 2 when I was a little kid.

>>213759588 (OP)
Iron Man 3

When they said Scarlet Witch was a victim and she had no accountability. They messed up when they said Captain Marvel was essential to watch before End Game and thought they could get away with anything though.

>>213759588 (OP)
>smacks her tits
>90's CGI armor materializes out of nowhere
Bravo Feige

>>213768020
Norton's Hulk also actually looked angry. Ruffalo's Hulk looks kind of retarded.

>>213768731
We could probably go on a lot of things. Disney just wanted to make "safe Hulk for the laughs" and obviously avoided any IP or direction/character development for the Hulk that would lead to them having to pay Paramount for the Hulk rights which still haven't reverted back to Marvel which is fully owned by Disney basically (since the Fox merger snapping all of X-Men and tertiary rights)

>>213768020
>He must've had the perfect connections to get into the industry.
Ruffalo is a jew.

>>213759588 (OP)
When the aliens showed up in Avengers.

>>213759823
And you're spending your time on this board whining about it, big man.

>>213768020
>>213768731
Norton's Banner had some pathos to him. Ruffalo just says "I'm always angry" but generally acts like wussy comic relief when he's not CGI. Oh, and when he's Smart Hulk, he wears glasses.

>>213762494
NANOMACHINES Son! It's because of TEH Memes!

>>213759588 (OP)
>When was the exact point the MCU officially jumped the shark?

Other than the Spider-Man flicks, Avengers Endgame in 2019 was when the MCU used up all the actually cool characters everybody knows about, and tried bringing in literal whos nobody gives a shit about.

>>213769745
If not for Lou Fariggno-sp and of course Neal Mcdonough in the animated series in the 1990s to 2005 Norton would be best hulk

>>213759588 (OP)
The nano tech is awful and lazy.

>>213769929

incredible ms marvel has a higher billing on this poster compared to banner when banner has been part of the saga for 7 years at this point

>>213760006
they shrunk retard

>>213759588 (OP)
it's not one thing but a combination of things

Endgame was a real ending point and a lot of people just bailed after that.

but as products? Captain Marvel was pretty much a nothing movie and also the whole focus on Kang was rushed

>>213759588 (OP)
I still cant believe they really tried to make Scott Lang le bad white privileged male and have his daughter angry at him. He literally just saved the world and is a selfless guy.

>>213759823
Me on the other side of that wall, cock out and lubed, drilling away with old-timey hand crank drill. Don't distract me, don't wanna hurt her delicate nether regions.

>>213764209
>Bana Hulk was 2003 iirc. Thats what looks terrible.
Filtered.

>>213765571
It would be so fucking hot to fuck a giantess. God i wish i had a gf whose ass i could eat without kneeling.

the last enjoyable marvel movie for me was infinity war, if only because it was funny to see at the end the audience, fully expecting cape-slop happy endings, see an ending where their favorite characters were ripped apart in front of them, rendering an awkward silent atmosphere throughout the theater, as the audience was forced to accept an unhappy ending in a movie seemingly for the first time in their lives

thank goodness end game slopped it back up for them

>>213768020
>I can't think of a single role of his where he doesn't act like some wimpy snot nosed meek asshat.
Collateral.

>>213770510
>He literally just saved the world and is a selfless guy.
Yeah... But what else has he done? How has he REALLY helped anybody?

>>213759588 (OP)
Honestly? Wanda might be the most overrated character in movie history and she killed the MCU.
At first Wandavision was a pretty cool sitcom parody styled show. Then it became dark but adult and interesting with the entire realization she is stuck inside of her own imagination creating reality. Then they revealed that the people were real and being controlled against their will and Wanda is too powerful she cannot be stopped. People felt a sense of wow MCU got really screwed up... This badwill leads into Multiverse of Madness, she basically got to be an anti-villain or something where she gets to kill masses of "good guys" we can assume they are and then the Fantastic Four dying like they did was very confusing to young minds. A lot of parents became scared to show MCU to young kids because of the gore and the vibes that was a lot like the Transformers: The Movie deaths if you know what I mean. Like when he says "you will be defeated by this guy opening his mouth" then "what mouth" that was actually fucked up that it exploded his brain. Almost The Boys level death. Then the total desecration of Patrick Stewart Professor X was also too fucked up for people. It showed the same level of disrespect for the comics that The Last Jedi did with Lukes Lightsaber.
I dare say MoM is secretly The Last Jedi for the MCU and pissed a lot of people off. Because its underlined what we all began to resent about post-endgame which is girlbossing and characters being OP and shitting all over established lore, low stakes because of multiverse making character deaths not mean as much and wasting A List Celebrities like when people wanted to see Tom Cruise as Iron Man and it was just a goof.

MoM was everything that destroyed the MCU in one movie and its sad because its Sam Raimi but dude its your worst movie by far and way beneath you. At least unlike with Rian Johnson, Sam seems to know it and is still humble.

>>213759588 (OP)
"nano tech" is a shitty excuse for bad cgi
op's webm literally looks like AI

>>213771641
Jesus he's so un-Ruffalo in that I forgot he was in it.

>Jumped the shark
>Movies about comic books
Now check these

>>213772279
It looks like AI because the retards didnt even put thought into WHAT the bitch is slapping. Her tits contain the suit? Wheres the shit coming from? No ring, bracelet, no indicatior at ALL theres nano. Thats why it looks shit.

>>213772386
It's not just that.
In this >>213772279 clip it shows clear mechanical layers as the nanosuit "peels away".
In the OP clip it's literally just a flat fade effect across the body aside from a few sections which pop into existence to create the illusion of effort.

>>213759618
Oh yeah, I'm sure they bitterly regret that stupid decision to make the single most profitable franchise in the history of cinema.

The extended universe worked, it worked beautifully, it helped sell IPs that would never have gotten off the ground on their own. An extended universe isn't the problem, just like it wasn't the problem with the DCEU. The problem is if you make movies that are shitty, boring, or lazy cash-ins they're going to fail regardless of whether they're in a shared universe or not.

You retards are acting like WB didn't run both Superman and Batman into the ground as solo franchises long before the MCU was a thing

>>213759669
All they had to do was look at the John Byrne run and do that. Was he an unrepentant coomer who sexualized She-Hulk? Yes, and that's what the fans wanted. Instead they catered to feminists like the fanbase wasn't 90% horny, immature men.

It's like if McDonald's decided to start fat shaming people, refused to sell anything but salads and then wondered why sales suddenly took a dive. You gotta know which side your bread is buttered on

>>213759588 (OP)
>>213759588 (OP)
Is this real?

>>213759717
nah

>>213759669

>>213772322
checked

>>213772386
Wait, that ISN'T AI? Someone actually put that in a film?

>>213759669
>yeah you might almost died due to having a nuke/equivelant dropped on you
>yeah you might have been tortured and hunted by the military
>yeah you might have been sent into space by your (((allies)))
>but i had it worse because i'm a well off white woman in america
?????

>>213773832
shitman 3 4min 30s in

>>213759823
eh, grown men spend fortunes following a band on tour or their favourite sports team around the country. People are retarded with their money as long as it brings them pleasure, nothing new or interesting about it.

>>213773832
Yes, its Antman Quantumania. They had weird sloppy suit up scenes throughout.

>>213759669
The actress is cute but the writing is horrible. She's just supposed to be shy and timid. That's why her hulked out form is so slutty and confident.

>>213759588 (OP)
Nanotech or infinite multiverses, whichever came first.

>>213759823
Errrmmmmmm... And why exactly are you posting instagram pictures of actresses from a superhero tv show on 4chan aka manchild central? Don't you have some hunting/gathering to do to provide for your five wives and sixteen children? Something about your post doesn't add up.

>>213759669
but she can't be murdered

>>213759588 (OP)
honestly? when Donald Cheedle replaced Terrance Howard. it became quippy jokes and reddit slop