What's /tv/ consensus on this?

Kino. Simple as.

>>213773895 (OP)
Spielberg peaked with this or Jaws

more like cretaceous park tbqh

>>213773895 (OP)
7/10 movie with a mess of a climax.

Improved the book because Criton writes like an edgy 13 yr old boy

>>213773895 (OP)
The only good one

Good movie. Pacing felt a little rushed.

>>213773895 (OP)
Excellent summer blockbuster. Only great JP movie.

>>213773895 (OP)
Should have taken more from the book (no, not that scene.) Still probably the best summer blockbuster of all time.

>>213774217
What would you have taken specifically?

>>213773941
>Jaws
was too young to see it when it came out then never got around to watching it until a few months ago. seen bits and pieces and refrences to it over the years. god what a let down. boring. im sure seeing it fresh back in the day would've made more of an impact, but holy hell i didn't care

>>213773895 (OP)
I was 6-years-old when it showed, back in 1993. Loved it. Continue to love it (this movie) to this day. 10/10. John Williams music composer, 10/10. Everything about it was perfect to me, and remains spectacular to this day.

Didn't really like its sequel.
Never saw ANY Jurassic movie after that.
I don't think my sister cared much, my dad didn't care, and my mom was just happy I loved it. We went to Pizza Hut and anywhere possible to get movie tableware.

>>213774290
This one. It properly showcases how in over their head Hammond, Wu, Arnold and everyone in the park truly was. The movie kind of paints everything as Nedry and the storm’s fault. The book is trying to make a point that this was always going to happen, Hammond never had control and things were wildly fucked way before Grant and co reached the island. That simple chart of “Expected: 8, Found:37” illustrates how much danger people are in long before Nedry pulls any of his shit. In the novel it’s plain as day from the moment the tour starts that Raptors are loose in the park and breeding. The film just kinda tosses the eggs in towards the end as a throwaway moment.

>>213774527
Also, they knew I was going to love it because
1. The CGI was MINDBLOWING you kids have no idea
2. I already loved dinosaurs and watched dinosaurs and played with Carnegie dinosaur toys. I've still got at least 3 of these things, I know it.

>>213773895 (OP)
The end of the true Spielberg era.

JP > TLW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever the fuck 3 was trying to be

>>213774347
But the ending is one of the greats. Up there with original Star Wars.

Aged like milk.

>>213774734
If the guy who wrote the Screenplay for JP1 didn’t get such a mighty swollen head and actually adapted TLW: JP novel, we would have received a kino sequel. Sadly it all went to his head and he only took a couple of things from the book but otherwise did whatever the fuck he wanted and we ended up with a massively underwhelming movie instead.

Pic related is the ultimate idol of midwits. They worship every single one of his 'deep and highly intelligent' lines.

>>213774842
I don't think that's true, Anon.

>>213773895 (OP)
Actually saw it a few days ago. I saw it as a kid but never a major analyzed watch until now. Big shock, it's just as good as everyone says. Great thrills, soundtrack kicks ass and for early CG in 1993 it looks breathtaking.

I have some weird Mandela effect with this. When I was younger I vividly remember Dennis being the one who died at the waterfall, and the cage run ending being here. Those are apparently in Lost World and III respectively but I don't recall watching a second of those.

>>213774566
I agree with this and it would've validated Malcolm's argument other than 'dinosaurs are bad, trust me' but I think they did it to keep the technical stuff to a minimum for a kid audience

>>213774950
>Dennis being the one who died at the waterfall
I can give you "possible reason" you remember it this way is the fact that Dennis is killed by the Dilophosaurus as the camera zooms-out/pans-away from the scene as a "waterfall" of rain pours over the small hillface and pours mud on the Barbasol can. It's easy to conflate "Dennis death" and "waterfall" with that, since... well, it happened.

>>213773895 (OP)
The consensus is we don't know, it's been a while since we last watched it.

>>213773895 (OP)
Book is better, movie is ok

>>213773895 (OP)
Good movie for kids who like dinosaurs.

>>213773941
Jaws was the better movie and it's not even close.

>>213775804
I disagree. Jaws has not aged well.

>>213773895 (OP)
1 > 4 > 2 > 7 > 6 > 3 > 5

>>213773895 (OP)
I like all three, always have.

>>213775864
Elaborate because Jaws is nearly flawless.

>>213775923
The effects ruin my immersion. I can clearly tell it’s a big slow puppet. In Jurassic Park I really believe it’s a T-Rex eating people.

>>213774578
>1. The CGI was MINDBLOWING you kids have no idea
>2. I already loved dinosaurs and watched dinosaurs and played with Carnegie dinosaur toys.
I had the baby Apatosaurus and the Dimetrodon, and several BMNH dinosaurs by Invicta. At that point the most realistic dinosaurs I knew of were John Sibbick illustrations.

I still remember seeing the poster for the first time in the cinema, possibly around the time I was seeing Wayne's World or something. I remember being interested because it was a dinosaur skeleton, but I actually wasn't sure if there'd be dinosaurs in it or not. Like, who knows what kind of a film that is. Then came the initial trailer, which hardly showed any dinosaurs.

I would've been about 11, somewhere between the age of the kids in the movie. I remember seeing a picture in a magazine of the studio sculpting the big T.rex, with some stuff about animatronics. I had actually seen an exhibition with Dinamation animatronics. Pretty exciting, but they're glued to the ground and wobble a lot. At that point I had seen very little CG animation, essentially rotating logos and the like, smooth rendered geometric objects. Hadn't seen T2 or The Abyss.

So when those dinosaurs show up on screen, I literally couldn't believe what I was seeing. I'd never seen any kind of animatronic move anything like that. Nothing I had seen could have prepared me for it. The explanation offered in the film literally seemed more believable to me than any kind of movie trickery. A friend told me it was "all done with computers". He might as have said it was done by magic for all that explained it. Again, the idea of making dinosaurs from DNA molecules out of parasites trapped in amber seemed more plausible. It wasn't until I eventually saw the making of Jurassic Park on VHS that I could finally get my head around what I was actually seeing.

That's what it was like to see Jurassic Park in the 90s. They might as well have been real dinosaurs.

>>213776016
There is some bad cgi in JP though?

>>213776016
Can't imagine being this low IQ.

1 > 3 > 2 > W > R > shit kaka poopoo > FK > D

>>213776052
>They might as well have been real dinosaurs.
I basically watch the movies without thinking otherwise. They filmed real dinosaurs.

>>213773895 (OP)
One of the handful of perfect movies in existence.

>>213776117
It's true, though. Spielberg is a phenomenal director and he made a great movie with Jaws (fantastic for its release date), but it's still reminiscent of "E.T." and "Close Encounters" when it comes to its practical effect.
I have to agree with the other Anon; "Jaws" is a fairly boring movie, really.

>>213776241
>It's true though
What is?
>Jaws is a fairly boring movie
Not what the poster said, or what I was calling low IQ.

>>213774842
>Pic related is the ultimate idol of midwits. They worship every single one of his 'deep and highly intelligent' lines.
No, literally everyone knows Ian Malcolm is full of it. That's how the character is presented. He's there as a contrast to make Alan Grant look good. Unlike Grant, he's not a practical person, like when he cracks the flare and doesn't know what he's doing, then spends the rest of the movie incapacitated. People enjoy him as a character because of his charisma and pickup artist skills.

What's the use of his theory anyway? That you can't predict stuff because there's too much random chance and chaos involved? What is the practical application of this to anything.

>>213776052
>Hadn't seen T2 or The Abyss.
I own The Abyss Special Edition Widescreen Letterbox Laserdisc (among other films my father was adamant about owning, like the Star Wars trilogy) and saw the whole Link's Water Temple Boss CGI scene several times. It... well, seemed shallow.

When it comes to CGI, I was WAY more invested in watched "Beyond the Mind's Eye" because, well, everything was CGI tech-demo stuff and I focus my life around music. Like, seriously, my career, my social life, my activities all have tons to do with music and musical study. I love Jan Hammer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oKGmKw02Z0

>>213776315
In the book he's Crichton's stand-in and right about everything.

>>213776353
>In the book he's Crichton's stand-in and right about everything.
I read the book as a kid, and it's really its own thing, quite different from the movie, which includes the characters. To be honest all that stuff with the fractals and jargon really bogged it down and seemed like it was mostly there to give a veneer of credibility to it as being something more than just a dinosaurs run amuck thriller. Although perhaps I was too young to understand the point of all that stuff.

>>213773895 (OP)
horror, thriller, fantasy, sci-fi, adventure, noir, crime, animation (mr. DNA), disaster, suspense, heist, comedy, drama, what more do you want?

>>213773895 (OP)
The sequels are so shit, except 3 maybe, because they're all about "humans bad, dinos too strong for humans" which is ridiculous.
In original JP the idea of making a dino park was also very good, it failed so the movie would be interesting of course, but sequels needed a working park (JW doesn't show one).
They can't do an interesting dino movie wothout pushing the wrong idea that humans would have a difficult time managing these creatures.
It's bad writing and the wrong message morally speaking.

>>213776188
Based

>>213774566
I watched the movie this afternoon and this is what I thought was missing from the movie too, but I just dont know how they would put it in without getting in the way. JPs pace is perfect imo

>>213774566
How come raptors fuck like puerto Ricans and dilophosaures don't fuck like quakers?

My consensus is OP is a faggot shill phishing for statistics on 4chan.

>>213774842
that's the joke

>>213776315
>That you can't predict stuff because there's too much random chance and chaos involved? What is the practical application of this to anything.
Throughout the book (and to a lesser extent the movie), the constant debate is between Hammond and Malcolm is that Hammond is convinced that with enough preparation the entire process of managing the park and the dinosaurs can be reduced down to a static input-output affair requiring little oversight. By his model, any individual errors or anomalies can be dealt with fairly easily. Malcolm holds that every unknown, gap and inconsistency within the model isn't going to be additive, but multiplicative and will add on further failure points unforseen by the initial preparations

>>213776661
No, Crichton is just a grade-A shit writer. But Malcolm is right in the movies and super right in the books.

Do people unironically enjoy this slop past the age of 12?

>>213777042
Meds

Its a masterpiece. Not a single wasted scene. Everything has meaning, you know like an actual fucking movie
>Grant's unhinged explanation to the little fat kid gives us his character, his dislike for children (which he grows past), and also sets up Muldoon's death
>On the helicopter, he has to tie his belt "female end to female end" before they land. Foreshadows the sex change which allowed the dinos to breed
I could go on. Personally my favorite part is the velociraptors, they were handled perfectly. Basically a bunch of slasher villains which are built up from the very first scene of the movie, and when they finally show up in person its such a great, tense scene.
Also Muldoon was fantastic, the actor played him flawlessly.
>>213776188
Based and truth-pilled. There's nothing like it

>>213774347
lol

>>213779798
Those were some of the worst parts though. Grant would have zero idea how Raptors hunt from studying their skeletons. And Mr. Super-Smart-Doctor is completely baffled by a simple seat belt? Yeah right. As if they wouldn't have instructed him how to put it on before take off even. All to nonsensically and pointlessly make a comment about females finding a way to breed with females for dumbshits to jerk off to

>>213780127
>And Mr. Super-Smart-Doctor is completely baffled by a simple seat belt? Yeah right.
Rarely have i seen someone miss the point harder

>>213773895 (OP)
The greatest blockbuster film ever and it isnt even close

It's literally a classic.
Please don't make me dump my whole Jurassic Park folder.

>puts his son in charge of the IT department and underpays him
>son ends up ruining the park
Why did Hammond do this?

it made me want to be a paleontologist

I saw it when I was 9, I was really into dinosaurs, it's one of my favorite movies.

1. book was better
2. spielberg rapes kids
3. dino crisis is the best jurassic park game

>>213781198

>>213774578
Nobody asked for your fucking life story, you unbearable faggot.

>>213781198
Just your favorite shot of the animatronic Rexy will do

who's egging the raptors on?

>>213781198
>>213782417
Guys, c'mon.
Its late.

>>213774842
dominion redeems him

>>213773895 (OP)
it is a traditional story that uses family metaphor wrapped in dinosaurs to deliver a satisfying summer blockbuster experience, something we don't know how to do anymore. additionally:
>>213774842
this guy is media illiterate and irrationally angry.

Kind of overrated, has some great scenes but overall, very meh
6/10

>>213783713
i really can't understand someone who claims to enjoy film giving one of the few existing films with zero wasted frames a 6/10. you are an anomaly to me.

>>213783739
Take the nostalgia goggles off bro

>>213783765
it's not nostalgia goggles, it's an example of master craft. every single line and shot sets up some other impact. it expertly weaves thematics into high concept bullshit. is it particularly thoughtful or heady? no. is it incredibly brilliant? absolutely.

>>213773895 (OP)
the consensus is that he says "chilean sea bass"

>>213783797
Cringe as fuck, you probably like that lame Disney Dinosaur movie

>>213773976
Everybody "said"! Every other goddamn sentence.
>Dr. Sattler said
>Grant said
>Malcom said
Nigga needed a thesaurus instead of a Tyrannosaurus.

>>213776073
Some. When it's fully CGI, it looks bad. When it's blended with practical effects, it's breathtakingly good.

>>213773895 (OP)
It's alright, honestly very overrated compared to most other movies but good for the time

>>213776353
Until he’s slammed against a wall by a t-Rex and spends the rest of the book as a babbling cripple until he dies. The smartest person in the room was less than a mild annoyance to the Rex. Lex and Tim fared way better against it than Malcolm ever did.