Why did it have no staying power after it ended?

Normal

/tv/ told me this was reddit so I never watched it

The creator got mentally raped by Weinstein and wrote his show off a cliff

Normal words killed its credibility overnight and everyone was embarrassed to have watched it

They cheated by retconning shit so that bojack was literally hitler or some shit

>>213775751
reddit how?

>>213775796
It's a fucking cartoon of a horse man for """adults""", do you really need me to post a basedjak?

It captured the whole "Le nihilistic with wacky quips" mood of the mid 2010s that captivated Millenials like with Ricky and Morty. Just like with that show that sthick got really old and Zoomers look at it as cringey

>>213775732 (OP)
Never heard anyone actually talk about it until it got rebooted. I watched a couple of episodes and it was straight bootyhole.

>>213775732 (OP)
>first world problems: the show

>>213775897
This
After and during Covid nobody wants to hear about le poor celebrities especially after that Believe cover shit

>>213775945
It was imagine, and yeah that was so tone deaf and put of touch with real people and life, it became offensive. A fucking song isn't going to make anyone feel better or stop peolple from fucking dying. Its all performative bullshit, and hearing it made people cry made me legit laugh.

>>213775732 (OP)
Normies do not give a fuck about adult animation
still good tho

>>213776021
Family guy? American Dad? King of the Hill? Are you fucking brain dead?

>>213776070
yes, normies think they're for loser reject stoners, and children

I'm 34. I remember the occasional nerd at a house party telling me to watch this. I think I watched the first episode. I chuckled at the "Penguin House" publisher being an actual penguin, then never watched it again. The 2010s was dominated by fucking retards thinking their sadness/depression was an interesting personality trait and shows like this just made it worse. I don't know what Gen Z's big shows are (if any exist), but the Millennial angst shows were ass.

>>213776207
Bojack is portrayed as a gen X-er though, he's a Corey Feldman-like figure, only not completely insane.

>>213776083
No.

>>213776439
Uh yes.
There is a reason adult swim the premiere adult animation place for 20 years advertised entirely to college age dropout stoners and highshcoolers while targeting preteens who'd watch Cartoon Network until it transitioned.

Because it has always been, and always been since for manchildren losers. All of it, which is the stigma that Bojack and any of the rest have to go against.

>>213776502
Nope.

>>213776527
and you're wrong

It is not interesting or funny it’s pure draw is “ no one gets him he’s just like me fr” huge tell if u can actually consume this incessant bullshit ( he should have just killed himself 2 episodes in but no we should tune in 2 what h a selfish dude mope for seasons )

>>213776207
Gen Z shows are Arcane and anime

>dianne gets obese
>not a single character mentions how this is horrible or the myriad health issues caused by this
>bojack was apparently a bad friend to todd
>despite letting todd sleep at his house and eat free food nonstop

>>213776534
Nope.

A buddy of mine loved this show so much he has a portrait of a horse in a suit in his house

>>213775732 (OP)
it's one of the best scripted shows i've seen, too bad people focus on the animals gimmick for criticism, the truth is that if it was a show with people it would be much more fucking boring, less funny and for some weird reason more unrelatable

>>213776692
They were really drinking their own Kool-Aid towards the end. It got to the point where every new plotline was just torturing Bojack and they'd make up some backstory to "justify" it while his equally shithead friends get off with the occasional finger-wagging.

because it wasn't made to be content; it had a clear ending that wrapped everything up neatly. no one would dare defend bojack, even to troll.

It's a pretty red pilled show that people think is reddit. It's more a good watch than burst out laughing show. Some of the visual gags were up there with early Simpsons era. I will say the later seasons asexual stuff with Todd did my fucking head in but he was a fairly retarded character most of the time anyway. The fact a lot of people here love King of the Hill and shit on Bojack Horseman is dumb as fuck id recommend Bojack to almost anyone certainly over that timesink KOTH

>>213775732 (OP)
I liked the really stressed out penguin who kept making bad business decisions

>>213776950
agreed 100%. the animal shtick gave it the levity it needed. but people will latch onto any reason to dismiss a show they don't want to watch.

I really liked Bojack, my only criticism is that it maybe went on a little too long and lost its momentum. it probably could have been wrapped up after 3 or 4 seasons. but it's a minor criticism, it mostly managed to maintain its quality even if it started getting a little stale.
also as anon above said, it had its definitive ending and left me satisfied to walk away from it. not everything needs to be discussed in perpetuity. especially something like Bojack which has a clear message that you take away and move on with. it would diminish it if it stuck around forever like the Simpsons or something, or kept getting dragged out of the closest like Futurama. I liked the show, but I don't need any more. I got what I needed out of it.

NORMAL WORDS was the most succint and efficient destruction of a tv show to ever happen

>>213775732 (OP)
NORMAL WORDS

>>213775796
>reddit like I'm a gentlesir? Like I give you reddit gold?

>>213775796
>if you have difficult things in your past you're doomed to be a miserable faggot forever and can't improve yourself because you'll just fail any was
it's basically the reddit bible

>>213776207
>The 2010s was dominated by fucking retards thinking their sadness/depression was an interesting personality trait and shows like this just made it worse.

>>213778347
>"if you have difficult things in your past, you're doomed to be a miserable faggot forever and can't improve yourself because you'll just fail any was."
>Samyutta Nikaya 3:35

>>213775732 (OP)
I recall sitting with an old friend of mine talking about tv shows we'd recently watched and I brought up Bojack Horseman. My friend immediately went off on a tangent about how sick he was of "Will Arnett is a sad alcoholic!" shows that had been cropping up at the time. Honestly I think there were only two. Maybe three. But it was too many for him.

>bojack MADE us drink
>even though we wanted to
>and got him to get us alcohol
>but it was his fault because we're minors o algo

>>213775732 (OP)
unironically BTFO by family guy

I'm just full on Will Arnett.

Imagine getting owned by late-stage Family Guy
Imagine going to Twitter and crying about getting owned by late-stage Family Guy
Imagine ruining your sympathetic main character because you don't like Harvey Weinstein or Trump (Bojack would have voted Trump)
Imagine trying to unionize and getting cancelled because of it, and never allowed to reboot or do anything again in the industry

>>213775732 (OP)
I liked it for awhile until Diane got fat

>>213775732 (OP)
I legitimately don't understand how anyone can enjoy this show. It's just not funny, at best it's funny if you're a stupid stoner who never grew up and then the actual contents of the serious story isn't anything special and that's just season 1, from what I understand it just gets worse and worse and they never let the character develop.

>>213776950
>t's one of the best scripted shows i've seen
You should see more shows then

>>213778535
>that's just season 1, from what I understand it just gets worse
where did you get that impression, season 1 is generally considered the weakest

>>213778585
well when I watched it there were maybe 3 seasons out and people said season 1 was the best or w/e mostly because of the (cringe) part with him breaking down or something. Even if it was the weakest, there is absolutely nothing captivating that would lead me to watch more of it.

>>213778535
I laughed once. When Bojack and Jesse Pinkman did some kind of drug and they way they represented the characters experience with it was humorous to me. That's the only time I laughed. Otherwise it's rather miserable.

>>213775732 (OP)
It took itself too serious. Also, Diane gets so fucking annoying by the end

>>213775732 (OP)
The MC was a self-absorbed piece of shit, which was finally spelled out in no uncertain terms in the last couple seasons. Faggots like >>213775753
and >>213775795
who probably "identified" with Horseman are clearly still salty about it.

Yet they did the same thing to Tony S. in his final season (in that Melphi finally concludes he is an irredeemable monster who is beyond all help) and that show is still beloved, with a bunch of middle aged frumps thinking he's an antihero of sorts, so I dunno. People are fickle.

>>213775732 (OP)
Liberal woman writers got mad the audience liked and disliked the characters wrong

>>213778535
The later seasons were around the time when the writers lost their minds and started hating on the audience for not hating bojack to the same level they did. They had literal episodes where they more or less just shouted at the audience about how evil and unlikeable bojack is and how you're just stupid and lack le heckin media literacy for not thinking the way they do.
It's the same problem with other shows like R&M where the show stops being about the characters and their little adventures and becomes more about the show itself in this weird meta way where they poke fun at the genre and also start talking to the audience about the characters but in a way that is still contextual in the show so it's not outright breaking the 4th wall like Deadpool or a Mel Brooks movie

>>213778524
You don’t get it. Her life was bad when she was hot but after she takes SSRIs her life is good but she’s fat now but that’s okay. Your life will improve if you take SSRIs and practice body positivity. Why don’t you get that?
Let me guess, you’re a man aren’t you?

>>213778798
But what's the point. Why center a show around and a guy who makes a lot of mistakes and is miserable just to have him never get better and write him to get worse and worse? If it's not funny, then it needs actual character development.

>>213777141
Did princess carolyn ever get any proper comeuppance or a 'reason-you-suck' speech from another character for her role in pushing the baby-killing song and image for that dolphin celeb?
See what we mean? The show is selective with who it wants us to hate or is deserving of rejection and misery.

>>213778848
That was probably the intention at first, but then #metoo happened and they had to make it relevant to current year trends so Bojack became a stand-in for Harvey Weinstein/toxic masculinity in the entertainment industry and he was reduced to a moralistic punching bag for the onions writers to flex about how pro-wahmen they are

>>213778848
There was character developement. The whole thing was nothing but god damn character development. They should have done something other than horse gets worse, tries to get better, succeeds for a time, fucks up, plummets to lower than ever before, tries to get better, repeat

>>213779140
Fuck, hahaha yeah dont know about failing and getting worse hahaha

I should have retired the noose

>>213779140
that's not really character development then

>>213778825
This girl I used to have a huge crush on started taking anti-anxiety meds and bi-polar meds and immediately gained like 20 lbs. She's still crazy too. Doctors are quacks

>>213778825
ssris dont cure depression fake depression haver for attention/hack writer of this pile of shit cartoon

>>213778623
>when I watched it there were maybe 3 seasons out and people said season 1 was the best
I doubt that, I have pretty much always seen season 1 considered the worst. even though I like it, it's never been as highly regarded as seasons 2 or 3, generally considered the peak. don't know what you were reading, probably misremembering. but in any case, if you didn't like season 1, I doubt you will like the rest.
>>213779176
the other characters besides Bojack have plenty of development. and so does Bojack, it's just not a linear development, he has ups and downs. which really, is more true to life.

>>213779582
Except towards the end the writers decided Bojack can't ever be redeemed because that's bad o algo

>>213775732 (OP)
it had no staying power after s1e1 because it was too repetitive and no one wants to be emo for 6 years or however long it lasted

>>213778523
Did they really go on Twitter? Does anyone have a screenshot?

God bojacks grandpa was such a BVLL

S4 > S6 = S2 > S3 > S5 > S1

>>213775732 (OP)
why didnt anything you watched in the past 10 years have "staying power" after it ended?
because we live in an era of fast food content.

it got obliterated by family guy

>>213775866
Are calling things reddit and posting basedjaks your only ways of expressing your thoughts

>>213776598
>u
>2
Go back to wherever you came from faggot, this site isn't for you.