What did Ari Aster mean with this?

>>213784556 (OP)
I have no idea. I knew he was complex but this movie definitely went over my head

Antifa is real

lol the sun is supposed be 93,000,000 miles away. LOL.

I mean I can't deny whites destroy the planet and spread untold amounts of suffering in a few centuries compared to the millions of years of this planets existence

>>213784556 (OP)
I don't understand why Ari Aster hates goyim so much. His best work is always hypercharged with vitriolic contempt towards them.

>>213786575
Aster and Kaufman are cut from the same cloth and just like to use movies as their own personal paranoid schizo therapy session. To that end they load it up with various humiliation rituals and debasement.

>>213786575
>>213786603
I never understood this criticism of Kaufman and Aster. They make movies about the human experience, I'm not jewish but I find a lot of it relatable. Is it showing upsetting parts of life that makes them jewish? You guys are constantly crying about life are you sure you're not jewish?

>>213786870
It's that it's not a true empathetic view of the human existence. The moral of the story is always the same: look at how despicable and disgusting this people are, unlike me the author who is so intelligent that is able to be above their miserable ignorance. It's a denunciation of goyim inferiority, probably moved by deep trauma and envy.

>>213786870
They just hyperfixate on humiliation rituals. It's extremely evident even at a cursory glance at their work.
Coen brothers for instance, are more in line with what you're talking about with a "human experience" and are far more nuanced.

It's about being stuck in echo chambers

How people end up in conflict because algorithms & misinformation essentially have them existing in different realities

The POV we get is one that's zoomed out, so that all of their conflict seems very trivial and resolvable to us, but they can't see that from their personal POV because they're close up and in it

It's a very Coen Brothers style of storytelling, which Aster cited as an influence

it's about not being able to take a step back from your personal interests in order to better understand one another, and what happens when those bubbles bump up against each other.

In my top 5 this year for sure.

This is much better than the usual Aster fare. Normally he deals with horror and horror-adjacent material so the schizo stuff gets diverted into the tropes of that genre. It's "safely" nested within it.

But this time around he uses the same paranoid schizo approach but he deals with real world situations and despite things escalating into spectacle at the end it all still rings true. Weird tech companies are doing weird shady shit out of view, globalists are coopting and using grassroots movements for their own ends. All of the paranoid stuff Joe and his mom and everyone is talking about does happen and in quite a realistic way, almost documentary. Throughout the movie the naturalistic approach is emphasized. It's not portrayed as "removed" from reality and safely moved into a genre, so it loses its edge and potency.

I hope Aster continues making movies like this and not waste his time with horror shlock.