They never explained exactly why he hated or was threatened by Saul

>>213792767 (OP)
Yes they did. Don’t be retarded.

media literacy

>>213792786
Name one(1) time

>>213792795
His entire "disease" was a literal somatization of his resentment towards Jimmy.

>>213792767 (OP)
He was threatened by Jimmy. Being a lawyer was "his thing" and then his younger brother becomes undeniably better at it in a fraction of the time without even trying.

Imagine you start karate lessons as a kid and you get to like purple belt and start thinking you're hot shit. Then your little brother tells your mom he wants to join too and it turns out he's a natural. He's only been in your class for 2 weeks but he beats the fuck out of you every day in sparring and completely owns you in front of your sensei. You started years earlier, but you guys get your black belts at the same time.

You'd crash the fuck out too.

You'd crash out too.

>>213792905
This happened when my elderly uncle took me out shooting. It’s a major part of his identity that he’s a crack shot that could take a deer down at 500 yards or whatever and when I was more accurate than he was after the second time out he all of a sudden lost interest

It's the Amadeus thing

>>213792767 (OP)
Chuck resented that their mom loved Jimmy more (she asked for Jimmy, not Chuck on her deathbed). Hell, everyone seemed to like Jimmy more than Chuck,. This drove him crazy, because to him, Jimmy was a smooth-talking dirt bag loser, while Chuck though of himself as a hardworking moral attorney, and a pillar of the community. He also hated that Jimmy could easily weasel into his professional domain that he built over many years (which was his whole life and the core of his self-image) with guile, sleight of hand, and charm. He was basically Aesop's Ant watching the grasshopper be rewarded instead of punished and it drove him mad.

>>213792767 (OP)
Jimmy was more likeable than him and he resented him for it. This is pretty clear in the flashback scene of Jimmy having dinner with Chuck and his ex-wife.

He's a schizo retard. It's not that deep

>>213792767 (OP)
Maybe the British are right with the whole TV license thing. Imbeciles like you should not be allowed to watch it.

chuck would've swallowed his pride and jealousy if Jimmy acted like a legitimate lawyer. He had 0 schizo flareups while he was working with Jimmy on sandpiper, and the case did legitimately have to go to a larger firm to not just stall out later. What began as brother bonding time hit the reality of a huge case. He wasn't even wrong to spike the idea of Jimmy getting hired at HHM given his past. If he had just been upfront about it nothing would've happened the way it did. Chuck's character flaws are greatly exaggerated. He has theme but they aren't his entire being. His biggest mistake was one act of cowardice that was just meant to preserve his relationship with Jimmy.

>>213793012
Salieri was right

>>213792767 (OP)
He was raped

>>213792905
We hardly even see chuck practicing law , but know he is revered as a legendary Layer by everyone so i don't know how you come to the conclusion that Jimma was a better Lawyer.

Chuck resented Jimmy for living live on easy mode. More liked by their father , always charming everybody (remember the dinner with Chucks ex-wive where Jimmy effortlessly charmed her?) , weaseling his way through live with little resistance.

When Chuck said that Jimmy makes a mockery of Law he really meant it. Chuck worked hard and Jimmy makes it look like a game like everything else.

>>213795602
>Chuck worked hard and Jimmy makes it look like a game like everything else.
Real talk, is being a lawyer even that hard? It just seems like you have to read a lot of shit and now that we have AI, you could just use that to complete a majority of your work.

>>213795680
It's extremely hard and stressful. You bust your ass 100 hours a week until you make Partner, and then you can make others do all the ass-busting.

When I was in university considering law school, a lawyer relative basically explained that it's 20 years of absolute misery, and then it's easy street. And that's if you get in with a "good" firm and don't get stuck in the PD office or something.

>>213792767 (OP)
At the very core of it he was just jealous of Jimmy: Chuck was the son who did everything right, yet their parents always favored Jimmy because he was just plainly more likeable. He didn't want him to succeed because he thought he simply didn't deserve it

>>213795602
This, Chuck was the better capital L Lawyer, but Jimmy was the better law talking guy

>>213792767 (OP)
saul was better at calling than he was. hence better call saul

Saul had an alternate but as effective method. Chuck was just pissed he took it less seriously in his "book methods" and skirted the law or what was legal in his eyes.

>>213793610
She didn't like Jimmy more she just wanted to talk to him cause he was a former con man working a minimum wage job while Chuck was a married and successful lawyer. This happens frequently in reality when parents are forced to give more attention to children than others, not out of love but necessity.

>>213792905
It's not that Saul is a better lawyer, it's that he's a cheating fag that nobody but you can notice is cheating. It would be like if you were a black belt and then your yellow belt little brother laced your food so you had to shit yourself midmatch against him

>>213796720
That may be but that was certainly not the way Chuck perceived it. The way he reacts makes that clear.

>>213792767 (OP)
Chuck fucking hated his brother for having such a high level of charisma and being preferred by people, including their parents, despite Jimmy being a sleazy snake and Chuck being a perfect role model. He knew Jimmy was charismatic and actually intelligent so he could excel as a lawyer and that made him mad since being a lawyer was Chuck’s thing. None of these was implicit since chuck pretty much tells his entire motivations in that chicanery episode so I don’t know how anyone could have missed it.

>>213792905
I think it's more the relationship with the mother the professional side of it is just a manifestation of the resentment

like Inception the seed that grows into the burning resentment that causes Chuck to try to work against James at every turn goes back to the most simple emotional reason

>>213792905
>turns out he's a natural.
turns out he's a cheater who kicks others in the balls or pulls other stunts like this and doesn't give a fuck about learning actual karate but the teachers let him get away with it cause he's funny.

>>213792767 (OP)
Because he sold Chuck's Fuck and Suck

Chuck was not right to originally reject Jimmy after he passed the bar exam, assuming he'd been on good behavior. But as a lawyer, we see Jimmy range from underhanded to straight up just illegal tactics (fabricating evidence for the pie sitting guy), proving Chuck right in the end. Arguably he wouldn't have had to resort to that if he'd been taken into HHM instead of being left to fend for himself, plus Chuck could keep an eye on him, but the Davis & Main job proven Jimmy never would've been satisfied with a traditional, big law job. Chuck was right, people don't change. Jimmy was always gonna take shortcuts, even if he wasn't allowed to, and Chuck was right not to let him possibly ruin HHM's (and his own, as Jimmy's brother) reputation because he thought he could get away with it.

>>213797323
>Chuck was right, people don't change.
At the end he does change, for the first time he refuses to take the easy way out and face the consequences of his actions.

>>213792905
>You train for years to become a black belt
>Little brother fucks around his whole life and does nothing
>One day he reveals that he's secretly been practicing and wants to start doing tournaments with you
>He starts and his fights are total spectacles
>Despite having some natural talent, he always gives up when things don't immediately work out for him and resorts to abusing technicalities, finding loopholes, creating distractions, and otherwise making total shitshows out of his matches instead of just nailing down the basics
>He's completely oblivious to how absurd this is, single-mindedly focused on being a big shot at any cost
>Makes a yotal laughingstock out of himself
>One day he insists the two of you are peers and he's a real master, just like you
>You snap
>Permeant, open resentment between the two of you now
>You two eventually go up against each other
>He pocketsands you in the middle of the match and makes you flip out in front of everyone
>Die
I sympathize with Jimmy always being on the outside wanting in, but both Chuck and Jimmy have each other hell.

>>213797323
>straight up illegal tactics
Such as claiming under oath to have a real illness, yet being perfectly healthy and can’t feel electromagnetism from a battery?

>>213797232
>>213797467
>Noooo you can't be attorney if you're... dishonest!

Have you guys ever met a lawyer?

>>213797582
Chuck wasn’t faking it on purpose. The whole point of proving he didn’t actually suffered from a real physical condition was to show he was mentally inept and he clearly was.

>>213797606
I mean realistically lawyers are scum but Chuck was an idealist, he genuinely wanted to help people in need. Jimmy just wanted to control people and scam them.

>>213797582
Chuck himself believed his "illness" was real. For it to be perjury the lie has to be intentional

>>213792905
A better comparison would be, you go to japan to study under some kind of highly renowned karate master learning the ancient arts of some renowned sage, meanwhile your younger brother goes to Big Rick’s Kickass Dojo in a strip mall somewhere and people talk about both of you as equally good karate people

I don’t know anything about karate

>>213797671
Jimmy helped the elderly and downtrodden low-income inner city folks with no means to defend themselves. Who did Chuck help?

>>213797766
I'm not proud of this but I googled "Big Rick's Kickass Dojo" to see if it was a real place I could take karate lessons at

>>213795680
For the most part it's a lot of tedium, research, and formulaic writing.

>>213797606
The point is that rather than appealing to the letter of the law to make the most thoroughly generous possible case for his clients, Jimmy made a spectacle of the process itself to find ways around doing that. Chuck believed the law was sacred, Jimmy thought it was a hindrance to winning. I'm not defending Chuck and attacking Jimmy, I'm saying that they're really well written characters and Chuck's attitude toward Jimmy makes perfect sense. It's consistent with his beliefs.

Why did Jimmy LARP as a jew?

>>213795680
It requires a lot of studying and being able to actually retain the information as you work in the field. I think AI would be a risky move when it comes to law since laws are usually written to be left to interpretation, at least to a certain degree.

>>213792767 (OP)
It's quite simple. Chuck was 100% effort and Jimmy was effortlessly talented. This drives Chuck crazy, naturally. It was well written to hang this whole theme around "justice", because it's not fair that Jimmy is as good as he is without putting in the work.

>>213793610
>>213797467
>>213795602
All these combined explain Chuck's beef
Chuck was right about Jimmy and his struggles with following rules (even if it was a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy since his undermining contributed to Jimmy's deviancy) but his MUH PROFESSIONALISM was just a cover so he could be self-righteous while underneath he was just a seething coward

jimmy was an evil scammer and remained an evil scammer

>>213798334
Jimmy wasn't an Indian thoughbeit

>>213798362
stop thinking in poltard memes. it is pathetic

>>213798382
polCHAD*

>>213792767 (OP)
Chuck hated Jimmy for how he acted when they were kids. Jimmy was a delinquent and a crook. Chuck refuses to believe that Jimmy can ever change no matter what Jimmy does. His refusal to acknowledge that Jimmy has change ironically forces Jimmy back into being a scammer again.

>>213792767 (OP)
Yes they did, speedwatcher. He literally explains it, Jimmy is an unethical person who would abuse the fact that lawyers are placed in a position of extreme trust by their clients. A lawyer can enter into contracts on their client's behalf and the client will be legally bound by them. A lawyer has access to a client's money and can easily steal it. Lawyers are fiduciaries, meaning they are required to place their client's interests above their own. But he knew Jimmy would be unable to do that, and would harm his clients for his own benefit, or would use his law license to further criminal enterprises. That was what he meant when he said Jimmy having a law license was like a monkey with a machine gun. He was later proven right over and over btw in BCS and BB.

Where he actually was in the wrong though was by refusing to tell this to Jimmy himself, and instead hiding behind his partner so he could maintain his brotherly relationship. That was dishonest and dishonorable.

>>213797323
>Arguably he wouldn't have had to resort to that if he'd been taken into HHM instead of being left to fend for himself
We see this isn't true when Kim gets him the law firm job, and he is given an opportunity to just work hard make a lot of money and be a normal lawyer. But he can't do that because it's le boring or something, so he intentionally destroys his opportunity. Also the whole thing of him trying to get fired without cause was a bit contrived because IRL the stunt he pulled with airing the commercial without authorization would 100% get any lawyer fired on the spot for cause. A lawyer is a client's agent, so they can enter into contracts on the client's behalf, even if the client didn't give them permission to do so. That contract is then still enforceable, so the client is on the hook for it, and will then have to perform on the contract then turn around and sue their lawyer to recover any damages from the contract they didn't want. It's called exceeding authorization, which is exactly what he did when he aired the commercial. So if Jimmy then ever did that to a client the firm could also be sued for negligence for not having fired him on the spot.

>>213792767 (OP)
Because people liked Jimmy. He was charismatic and funny and charming, which was enough to get him through life. Chuck was none of those things So he has to play life by the rules. So he becomes big shot lawyer but he still can't make his own wife laugh. He's still boring. Yet she's enamored with Jimmy because despite being a fuck up, he's just more likeable. That's what gets to chuck. He never broke the rules and was always a good little boy, but Jimmy was still their mothers favourite despite all that.

The whole relationship dynamic there was oddly niche but it was well written and portrayed but it feels like it belongs in a different show. It really did feel like Gould just took one of his other scripts and slapped the BrBa shit on top of it

>>213792767 (OP)
Same reason we look at former criminals/drug addicts in a negative way.

>>213798382
>associating scammers with India?
>Uh, /pol/ much? Yikes!
That's gay. I hope it causes some amount of self-reflection to know that I can tell you have a bad relationship with your dad less than 10 words into your opinion.

>>213792767 (OP)
he never understood people, thought being a law autist would make him likeable.
whereas Jimmy was a people person and would be friendly, listen, make friends easily. Just like their Dad.

Chuck never could understand why everyone liked Jimmy. He did hate him.

>>213797582
Chuck wasn't lying. He was just mentally ill. The disease was real as far as he knew.

>>213798776
i've never seen the show, gimme the qrd on your reasoning here

>>213798956
Jimmy was a criminal. He stole from his dad.

>>213798971
watch the show because you clearly missed a scene.
he at best stole some cigarettes that he sold to a conman. at that point the store was going bust thanks to their Dad falling for every conman asking for 5 dollars. the register was empty ffs.

>>213799068
I was explaining his reasoning.

>>213798956
Jimmy, the main character, got in legal trouble when he wanted to play a prank/get back at someone he hated by shitting through a hole in the sunroof of their car. He was not aware this guy's kids were in the car and were then shat on. His brother who was a high powered lawyer helped him out and got him off with a light sentence, then gave him a job working as the mailroom boy at his law firm. Jimmy was also a shitty person who stole from their kindhearted parents which contributed to bankrupting his father's store.

The strongest indicator of whether someone will commit crimes in the future is whether they've committed crimes in the past. That's why in criminal trials you're generally not allowed to talk about a defendant's prior convictions, since the jury will just convict thinking well if he committed crimes before he probably did this. Instead of the government having to prove he actually did do it. But the fact still remains that for most people once a con always a con.

>>213797323
Jimmy is like Batman, he can formulate a plan as long as you give him time

>>213792767 (OP)
Jimmy was a cheating dirtbag who cruised through life because he was born with a silver tongue. He was partially responsible for tanking his father's shop by stealing from him and leading him to his death but his mother never accused him of shit. He lived in the street doing scams with some dumb fat guy and eventually got put in jail because of shitting through some guy's car but Chuck was there to save him because his mother still saw Jimmy as a good kid. Chuck worked his ass off to where he was by ACTUALLY studying law at prestigious universities yet Jimmy got a degree in a few months from some diploma mill and now Chuck's wife likes Jimmy more because he's more charismatic and Howard is A-OK with letting Jimmy work there despite having zero experience. Obviously Chuck is pissed because he knows Jimmy will take the easy way out, he'll always play trials dirty and to his benefit and never follow the law nor his own firm, yet for some reason Jimmy thinks he's on Chuck's level. Even then, Chuck supports Jimmy as a good brother and gives him a speech about doing good and guides him, he just doesn't want Jimmy in his firm

And Chuck is 100% right about Jimmy btw. The second he gets tired of actually working his way up in the legal system he resorts to scamming which gets him involved with criminals. When Jimmy ends up at Davis and Main he not only breaks office code ON HIS FIRST DAY by touching the AC but then proceeds to throw a tantrum and damage the company over not being allowed an advert. And of course he then basically ruins Chuck's career over not being allowed into his brother's firm like a petulent child and starts his fall into Saul.

People defend Jimmy but while he isn't a purely evil man, he's certainly a scumbag and worse than Walter White. Chuck was completely right and ended up being an early hero, basically the BCS mirror to Hank

>>213792767 (OP)
Jimmy contravened Magna Carta with malice aforethought. Chuck should've beaten him into the ground with his bare hands.

>>213793610
>with guile, sleight of hand, and charm.
jimmy became a honest to god lawyer by studying. He worked diligently as a solo practitioner for years. When HHM stole the Kettleman's from him, he decides to pull his first slippin' stunts in a looong time
To claim Chuck was in any way in the right for the way he treated Jimmy is a mental illness in of in itself

Jimmy slipped on his plans

>>213800808
>jimmy became a honest to god lawyer by studying
He got a shitty degree from some internet diploma mill. His only real achievement is somehow passing the bar which who knows how he managed that. It certainly is nowhere close to what Chuck did to get to his position
>He worked diligently as a solo practitioner for years
That's called "being a lawyer". You think Chuck didn't spend decades with shit cases and barely being paid before he got with Howard and his father and built up his company based on the good rep and amazing skills they had? Spending some years in bad conditions is no justification for slippin' out
>To claim Chuck was in any way in the right for the way he treated Jimmy is a mental illness in of in itself
Chuck's only fucking fault was not telling Jimmy directly because he didn't want to hurt his feelings. That's it. He's completely justified to not want to hire him at HHM with how little experience and the bad rep he has, a lot of other firms would do the same. He would have supported Jimmy keeping at it or even taking on another venture like marketing or cinematography. Jimmy was the brat who thought he deserved to be at HHM because of his slippin' skills which go against the point of law and order

>>213800948
>which who knows how he managed that
by being good? retard
>Spending some years in bad conditions is no justification for slippin' out
Howard basically stole his client
>He's completely justified to not want to hire him at HHM
I agree, he wasn't forced to do so. But Chuck's behaviour with Sandpiper and mesa verde was unacceptable. He was so hellbent on getting his brother in trouble, he basically entraped him with the tape. Chuck is in the wrong, that doesn't mean jimmy is a saint

>>213801117
>by being good? retard
Jimmy isn't good at actual law, he's good at skirting the law with tactics which are barely legal. It isn't about being fair and honest and pursuing the truth, it's about winning cases
>Howard basically stole his client
Tough luck, that's the nature of being a lawyer. Again, doubt Chuck and Howard's father and even Howard himself didn't deal with that kind of shit. They never broke the law, they never broke bad trying to cheese their way out of putting in effort
>Chuck's behaviour with Sandpiper and mesa verde was unacceptable
Sandpiper was about how Chuck and Jimmy weren't able to do shit alone, so they got HHM involved. Jimmy then assumed that because he did some work for the lawsuit, he would then get hired into HHM which is a ridiculous assumption again all based on Jimmy basically thinking he had priviledges due to being Chuck's brother. He gets an amazing deal which would give him a ton of money to start actually making his own career but refuses out of hurt pride.
Mesa Verde is even worse. Jimmy CHEATED with that, he did switch the numbers and screwed Chuck over purely out of spite and bias for Kim. Chuck was completely right with what he did with the tape

>>213792767 (OP)
I was honestly surprised at how complex the relationship between Chuck and Jimmy was. Wasn't expecting that kind of depth from the guy who wrote breaking bad which was essentially capeshit.

>>213797810
Native Americans

>>213792767 (OP)
He was jealous that his uneducated scumbag brother was more likeable and just as good of a lawyer as he was.

>>213795767
Yeah, but why? Wouldn't you be better at your job if you weren't exhausted all of the time? Like, instead of having one guy do the workload of two guys and letting the quality of work suffer, just get two guys.

>>213801451
Inertia and tradition.

"I suffered, so others must". "I turned out fine."

>Jimmy gets a super well paid job at a highly respected law firm
>everyone sucks his dick
>everyone bends over backwards for him
>he's got a bunch of slaves doing the hard work for him
>after 2 days in the office he starts trying to fuck over his employers, sabotaging his own firm, scamming his clients
>even after all that they let him get away with it
>needs to provoke his own firing
Totally buried the "all he needed was a chance/Chuck's fault" narrative.

What matters to me is kim sexler
Yep

>>213801500
That's retarded, though

The Venn diagram of Jimmy bootlickers and Mike bootlickers is probably the same ngl. Both are characters which refused taking the straight path and being good, honest men following their family's legacy out of their impulses and evil nature. Yet both are treated as if they were victims of le evil Walt when in reality they got what they deserved

>>213801762
The difference with mike is that he gets into it with both eyes open.

Why do americans make movies and tv series glorifying criminals and scumbags instead just shooting them? Mercy to the wicked is punishment to the innocent.

>>213801762
Mike is arguably the most evil character and it's impressive how much my mother simps for him just because he cares about his granddaughter.

>>213801889
Because you're an obsessed cuck, criminals are cool

>>213801849
Hahaha no

Mike still deluded himself that he was honoring his son's legacy and giving money to Kaylee which she needed when in reality he was just murdering people out of bloodlust and self loathing. He may say once or twice he's too far down but really he doesn't even realize it. His final confrontation with Walt is hilarious, trying to delude himself that everything would have been fine had Gus lived when Gus was planning to murder Walt and Jesse and it wasn't even Walt's fault, he fought back in self defense

The final scene with Nacho's dad is meant to show how fucking awful Mike is. He still thinks he's some wild west cowboy dealing justice when he's a bloodthirsty monster. Nacho's papa is basically the good version of Mike, a dad who sees his son's sacrifice for the greater good, mourns him for the rest of his life and moves on to try and pick up the pieces like an honest man. That's why he's shown as free whereas Mike is shown behind bars in that scene, he's in a prison of his own making

>>213801849
Despite seemingly being aware of what he does Mike often gets basically BTFO when faced with how much of a piece of shit he really is in BCS, like when they bury Howard or with Nacho's dad. That's when his delusions get broken. But with Jimmy this only happens right at the end. Despite not being a literal killer like Mike he's less humane in a way cause he can fully supress his conscience.

>>213801985
Sheltered take from an idiot who has never encountered a criminal.

>>213792767 (OP)
Chuck represents the eternal boomer; stuck in the past, attached to a very specific idea of what the American way of life should look like. He doesn't respect lawyers and lawyers because of their accreditation, but because of their mannerisms, morals, and class. Jimmy was a criminal and a sleazeball, but he was a lawyer all the same, and to chuck this was an abomination of what lawyers were as an idea that existed in his head.

It's like a film student having to accept that MCU films count as movies, despite being mass produced garbage created by a committee.

So why didn't Walter show up in the show?

>>213802255
Bait comment

I watched this show after it was over and found out Chuck was considered the "Skyler" of BCS. I fully empathized with Chuck all the way and seeing the last episode I think we were supposed to.

>>213802054
I'm not saying he isn't an asshole, but like he tells the guy who sells pills to Nacho, once you cross the line you're a criminal, and all you can really do after that is to try and be an honest crook.
It is interesting though, I finally finished the show a few weeks ago, and I didn't realize how much Nacho was an inciting incident for mike and jimmy.

>>213802054
That IS one of Jimmy's skills, true. Saul Gone has the obvious implication that he regrets what happened with Chuck but he's able to basically suppress it to the point where it's only the guilt of that, Howard AND Kim returning in person that finally makes him squeal and admit his crimes in the court

That makes him scummier than Walt. Walt suppressed his conscience for a while yes but the second he properly saw Jesse get captured (even if it was as an enemy) and Hank die he completely broke down and after a period of respite was back to have his revenge. Jimmy takes so much longer to fucking break it's insane

>>213802255
He was buckbreaking Gus

>>213802343
>all you can really do after that is to try and be an honest crook
Aha, that's why he's the second in command to Gus Fring, the man responsible for Nacho's death and the most powerful drug kingpin in New Mexico. What an honest man

>>213800648
Surprised you can stand being in front of a computer long enough to type this seething post, Chuck.

>>213801375
>helping a bunch of degenerate savage casino tycoons get more money for fire-water

>>213792767 (OP)
HE DEFECATED THROUGH A SUNROOF!

>worst thing Chuck did
Didn' allow his criminal scammer brother to practice in his law firm
>worst thing Jimmy did
Helped murderers, drug cartels, helped building a drug empire, ruined an innocent man's life and career and caused his murder, scammed people, cheated etc

>>213802311
Chuck is closer to Hank. At the start of the series he seems like the enemy to the cool criminal protagonist who's related, but by the end it's so fucking clear that he was 100% right and even the protagonists know.

>>213802544
Ruined *TWO innocent men's careers and lives, Chuck and Howard were both fucked by Jimmy being a total scumbag and a criminal to boot

>>213802581
Oh yeah I forgot
>abandoned his mentally ill brother and drove him to suicide after ruining his career and finances

>I am crazy! Crazy about my brother! Jimmy would never swap those numbers. Of course it was 1216. One after Magna Carta. I could easily make such a mistake. Easily. Easily! I just – I just didn't have the courage to admit it. He did everything honestly, that idiot at the copy shop probably lied of his own accord. This isn't something. This isn't bad. This? This chicanery? He’s done better. That billboard! Are you telling me that a man just happens to be heroically saved like that? Yes! He saved the day! Jimmy! He was falsely accused of defecating through a sunroof! And I saved him! And I should have. I took him into my own firm! I love working with him! He’ll always change. He’ll always change! Ever since he was 9, always growing and learning! Putting his allowance in the cash drawer! Our Jimmy! Must be precious Jimmy! Saving their business! And HE gets to be a lawyer? What a great idea! I should’ve supported him when I had the chance! …And you, you have to support him! You-

At least his death was painless

>>213801954
Tell your mother Mike doesn't give a shit about his granddaughter. If he did, he'd actually pick a real honest job (maybe security consultant, that Madrigal episode shows him being extremely competent at that) instead of being a fucking crime lord. Kaylee isn't starving, she and her mom could use some cash sure but preferably without massacring untold thousands and being the key pillar to a fucking drug empire

Maybe only the weak and fat survive off the status quo and lawful enterprise, protected by their social contract and upper class priveledge. The strong faustian man has no time for obstacles, he simply exists as a world onto himself and creates a reality where he rules supreme while lesser men cry about morality and ethics which they themselves synthesized in a pathetic and worthless attempt to prolong their dysgenic, inferior lives.

The fact is, Drug Cartels are based. That's why Vince made not one but two shows which are almost entirely sidetracked by Drug Cartel Drama. Nothing is better than making drugs, getting everyone hooked on drugs, overdosing on drugs and killing other people who also make drugs, then killing the police because they're interfering with your drugs, and drugs are the best thing ever.

He's gay

>>213802544
>worst thing Jimmy did
destroyed irene's reputation and make her a pariah

>>213792767 (OP)
Yeah they did

>>213804555
He said the worst thing, not the best thing he did

>>213793610
Chuck held Jimmy solely responsible for their father's store failing too.
We were shown why. Jimmy's dad was nice to all of the bums and thieves who would rip him off.
I'm not arguing that Jimmy didn't swipe money from the till. We saw him do it.
But there is no chance that Jimmy stole a tenth the money that Chuck claims he did.

>>213802011
>he's shown as free whereas Mike is shown behind bars in that scene, he's in a prison of his own making

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>>213797766
>Big Rick’s Kickass Dojo in a strip mall somewhere

>>213802428
Not bad.

Mike got raped in prison

>>213796547
best post in the thread

Cranston is a far better actor than Odenkirk, but Better Call Saul's supporting cast was way better than Breaking Bad's. So was the writing.

>>213792767 (OP)
jimmy adopted far better to amoral capitalist society way better then chuck did, grandpa was just behind times and it made him furious

>>213792851
Notice how he didn't respond after this. He's not really interested in an answer. This is just to waste people's time and repost the same retarded questions and memes over and over and over and over again. Because this is all these people have. It's like loners at a retirement home. They'll tell the same story over and over again to anyone that will listen, just to TALK to someone or here themselves speak. Think of this the next time you see another pointless "mechanics of The One Ring" thread

>>213801762
being a good person in america is impossible

>>213801889
because america is land of criminals

>>213792795
>ignoring Chuck retelling how Jimmy stealing money from his father's business
>ignoring Jimmy ignoring the law when it's convenient for him
>ignoring Chuck explaining to Jimmy to his face that he's "a chimp with a machine gun" by being someone able to manipulate the law
Chuck was an obsessed elitist asshole but Jimmy proved him right. He's not trustworthy and he is okay manipulating the law for his own gains.
He hated Jimmy because his parents loved Jimmy more despite Jimmy being a shit son and a shit person.

Chuck can Fuck and Suck my dick

Favorite episode? And none of the "the episode where X does Y" shit. If you can't bother to learn the episode names then your opinion doesn't matter.

>>213807118
The episode where Saul calls Chuck the n word

>>213792795
Their mother's last words.

>>213797232
So hes Jon Jones?

>>213793012
Chuck always wanted to be a sleazy con artist but had to settle for being a respected lawyer
It. Broke. Him.

Chuck resents Jimmy's natural charm. Chuck is smart and talented, but he can't make his wife or their mother laugh and that's what he wants more than anything in the world.

>>213803108
The Jews are very faustian. Not caring about being WEIRD and ethics and morals and being fair. Though Whites could try socialism to bail out their own losers.

>>213807118
The finale, it had way more soul than the BB finale, which was a much more "cerebral" show anyway

>>213808478
reddit take
kys

>>213801954
Mike can admit to himself (and others) that he regrets going down that path. At least in BCS. Walt dies still proud of being the meth king, and the last conversation he has with his son is to offer him money, while crying that it isn't "enough". Even at the end he still thought he could buy redemption.

>>213797323
The real redpill that anyone who knows anything about the practice of law could tell you is that even if Jimmy had been allowed in to HHM he never would have tolerated being permanently treated as a third class lawyer there because his degree was from a nowhere school. Corporations wouldn't want Jimmy with his degree from the university of American Samoa handling their representation, he'd be a permanent assistant counsel at best at HHM.

> "You're not a real lawyer! "University of American Samoa", for Christ's sake? An online course? What a joke! I worked my ass off to get where I am! And you take these shortcuts and you think suddenly you're my peer? You do what I do because you're funny and you can make people laugh? I committed my *life* to this! You don't slide into it like a cheap pair of slippers and then reap all the rewards!"

Simple as.

A lawyer is meant to win cases, since he wins cases, he's a lawyer

>>213806701
>Chuck genuinely thinks his 12 year old brother embezzled $14,000 in 1960s USD singlehandedly
>Chuck is completely immoral and capable of sinking even lower than Jimmy in deception, as long as he remains within the letter of the law

the character motivations in both breaking bad and better call saul are pretty fucking clear, surely you aren't so stupid

>>213809464
Jimmy is trying to make money by scamming and lying while Chuck is trying to do his job in a honest way

>>213792767 (OP)
The flashback when he had Jimmy over for dinner explained it all. He was always envious of Jimmy’s natural charisma. He could live with it as long as he knew Jimmy was stuck in a dead end job but when he became a lawyer it encroached on his safe space where he was the top dog.

>>213793610
Jimmy got his degree and passed the bar fair and square. He just did it in a way that was feasible for something working a shitty minimum wage job which of course all the big name college lawyers scoff at because it’s all a massive circlejerk.

>>213806701
>Chuck proved him right
>Also actively sabotages every single attempt Jimmy made to prove him wrong
I can prove your mortality by stabbing you.

I have a Chuck who hates me too and I'm passing the bar exam next month.
Dubs and I succeed.

>>213792767 (OP)
Everyone around them liked Jimmy more, including their parents. Chuck in all his narcissistic wisdom decided this is Jimmy's fault.

>>213792767 (OP)
His divorce literally drove him insane and he resented Jimmy for making his ex-wife laugh when he couldn't. He seemed supportive when Jimmy defecated through a sunroof and only used it against him later when it was convenient for him to do so.

Half of the retarded question threads on 4chan are made by AI companies desperately trying to obtain training data.

>>213801333
It wasnt a ridiculous assumption, Howard was going to hire Jimmy and Chuck made it a explicit point to not let Jimmy in

>>213795405
man i love that movie, saw tits and an italian seethe for 2 hours

>>213809576
>honest way
Hes a very dishonest guy, hes a legalist, no morals, as long as its whitin the law, he shows it many times that he isnt that different from Jimmy

>>213792767 (OP)
Stop looking at memes while watching Jewish media.