Thread for yuri content from the Undertale/Deltarune series, canon or otherwise.
No NSFW images of the anthro characters, please.
Previous thread:
>>4144816https://archiveofsins.com/u/thread/4144816
>>4324889 (OP)Recent yuri doujins:
HAIBOKU / ในใผใใผใตใใตใ (Alphys x Undyne) (R18)
https://alice-books.com/item/show/11092-2
All currently available yuri doujins on Alicebooks:
https://alice-books.com/item/list/all?keyword=UNDERTALE+ร&on_sale=1
It's the 12th day of the month, which means it's Alphyne Day in the Japanese fandom!
The hashtag is #ๆฏๆ12ๆฅใฏAlphyneDay on the various social media sites.
>>4327732https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm44313994
>>4324889 (OP)>No NSFW images of the anthro characters, please.so everyone but Frisk/Chara/Kris?
wish there was more susie x undyne
>>4331540I deleted it cuz I figured it might be traced but whatever https://x.com/ClausChristmas2/status/1263834904867078146
>>4331541oh I can see that angle for sure. also sooz/undyne is an unconventional ship but hey
>>4331542rareships are what I live for
lewd catti x susie https://x.com/underchikichan/status/1408261600826445824
https://x.com/catjamn/status/1795968367184236878
>>4331543god tier tail pulling and piercings if I'm being honest. great find
I really wish archive.moe image hash searching was more reliable. I keep having to delete reposts. Guess I should check image hash AND filename.
>>4331528From what I remember, Undyne and Muffet are considered monster girls rather than anthros by the mods, so they might be safe.
Fuku Fire and the skateboard girl too.
>>4331578Need more Suselletti...
>tfw plushies never ever...
>>4331578where's bratty though.....
>check thread after a day
>something like 80+ new posts
Yay, thank you for the image dump, anon(s)!
I'd love to see this thread become more active.
>>4331917Same, it's cozy how huge the art scene still is also the sexo is hot
>>4332044>also the sexo is hotI really wish there were more UT/DR yuri lewds... They're so frustratingly rare.
>>4332072I know right. 90% of the lewd stuff that's out there is just generic 'here's two girls with gigantic tits embracing and looking at the camera' type stuff. I want full on passionate sexo. I'm not much of an artist but one day I'll find the motivation to actually write lewd stuff.
>>4332074jeez I used the word stuff way too many times in that post. but ykwim
>>4332074>I know right. 90% of the lewd stuff that's out there is just generic 'here's two girls with gigantic tits embracing and looking at the camera' type stuff.And the worst part is that even that is just a drop in the pond compared to all the het stuff. Browsing the character tags is pain.
>I want full on passionate sexo. I'm not much of an artist but one day I'll find the motivation to actually write lewd stuff.Good luck and godspeed anon! Would love to see your art/writing some day.
>>4324950New Alphyne doujin announced (General audiences)
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/124097094
https://x.com/aaaakawaiiUT/status/1854715150806532140
>>4332601The same author also implied that they're working on a Suselle doujin, which is exciting because it would be the first full-length Suselle doujin that I'm aware of.
https://x.com/aaaakawaiiUT/status/1859620116088095197
https://x.com/aaaakawaiiUT/status/1859620305494507794
>>4324950I just noticed that 4chan stripped the female symbol from the currently available books URL, this one should work properly:
https://alice-books.com/item/list/all?keyword=UNDERTALE+%E2%99%80ร%E2%99%80&on_sale=1
>>4336615Seems like it will be general audiences and a retelling of the Ferris wheel scene.
>>4338920Suzie snuggling up in Noelle's boobs for warmth...
>>4338929One day I still totally wanna write that suze/noelle boob awe fic. It'd be a super indulgent like 3k oneshot but I need to get it out of my brain somehow. also cute piercings there
>>4338937>One day I still totally wanna write that suze/noelle boob awe fic. It'd be a super indulgent like 3k oneshot but I need to get it out of my brain somehow.I'd love to see this whenever you feel like writing it!
>>4338949That's super sweet, okay okay I'll try to get it down this weekend. Don't expect a literary masterpiece or anything but I'll let you know when it's up.
>>4338956Oh, that's great! I'm actually quite hyped for this now. Thank you, anon!
>>4338958I'll try my best! Just as a disclaimer though it's definitely gonna be super smutty and more than a little over the top. Like, I'll probably spend multiple paragraphs just to describe Noelle's bloobs. So hopefully that's chill with you!
>>4338965Absolutely. I am VERY much okay with how that's sounding.
>>4338972Hell yeah then! I'm still unsure on how explicit it'll end up, but I know for sure there's gonna be a LOT of boobage. I'm already starting to plot out scenes in my head, this'll be great.
>>4338977I support you anon
It's the 12th, so that means it's Alphyne day again!
Not a huge turnout this month though, sadly :(
>>4324889 (OP)So can Kris be in yuri?
Lewd Toriel x Susie: https://art.ngfiles.com/images/1149000/1149447_latchk3y_susie-x-tori.png?f1579546497
In case above link isn't accessible: https://files.catbox.moe/uhrzeo.png
>>4346340If Kris is depicted as physically female, it should be fine.
>>4346110Susie needs a warm doe hug
Merry Christmas /u/ndertale and Deltar/u/ne thread!
>>4350425>>4350424>>4350423>>4350422>>4350421From her locked lewd twitter (https://x.com/skull_otaku_S2/media)
https://files.catbox.moe/jnv4nf.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/0jo157.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/nx8wyq.jpg
>>4351033Thank you anon!
Do you think you could provide direct links to the locked images? (the ones that start pbs.twimg.com/media/ )
>>4351042https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GdDK_0AagAQ2HNM?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gcp5BF8a8AAf7Ep?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gcp1dNTasAAKtrf?format=jpg&name=large
I think a follow request should work though.
>>4346340i mean, how often do you see a feminine Kris in the first place?
>>4358806Definitely not in
>>4358880
>>4358806How is Kris such a downgrade to Chara and Frisk?
Not much art this Alphyne day, sadly.
https://bsky.app/profile/tobyfox.undertale.com/post/3lhadac2h2c2y
Chapters 3+4 releasing soon, let's goooooooooo!
Deltarune tomorrow, trust!
i think it's implied frisk is transgender, what with all the talk of it in the text
>>4403083It was just left vague so players could see what they want
Deltarune confirmed for June 5th launch in the latest Nintendo direct!!!
Anyone happen to have the full version of this?
Some Catelle crumbs in the sweepstakes ARG update
https://deltarune.com/rain/
Susie/Noelle/Catti threesome art when?
>>4416773They need to double-team the fat fucking cat
Happy Alphyne day!
Monyorunrun published their Alphyne artbook "Sweet Time" to Pixiv:
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/130310252
>>4324950A SFW Suselle anthology doujin has been announced:
https://twitter.com/aaaakawaiiUT/status/1923709802376728931
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/130514639
It will be released at the Super Comic City event on June 18, and will be sold online on Booth afterwards.
>>4420186>June 18My bad, the event was on *May* 18.
The fanbook will probably be available on Booth shortly.
In-progress Noelle x Susie lewd comic by Charredarousal. Premise is what happens between the two in Noelle's room on the Weird Route.
https://files.catbox.moe/4glvyp.png
https://files.catbox.moe/nd7t0o.png
https://files.catbox.moe/m33wew.png
https://files.catbox.moe/rk21cb.png
https://files.catbox.moe/owk8pm.png
https://files.catbox.moe/94luwj.png
I really like this panel lol
Saw this little music vid and thought it was cute
https://dollopopaint.tumblr.com/post/784013628172058624/
Well, I finished my blind playthough of the new Deltarune chapters, so here's my yuri-oriented review/thoughts:
>Good
Noelle and Susie get a nice, long romantic conversation together in Noelle's house.
Susie says she wants to go to the festival with Noelle
>Bad
Kris is 100% confirmed to have a crush on Susie, so Toby actually does seem to be going through with the stupid love triangle bullshit.
So. Much. Kris x Susie shipteasing. Kris is seemingly infatuated with Susie and most pro-Susie options tend to get shippy now. Yes yes, Kris is technically 'nonbinary' so Kris x Susie doesn't have to be het, but 90% of its shippers see Kris as male and the pairing as HMOFA, and that's all you ever see in their fanworks.
Noelle is barely in the new chapters, despite supposedly being a main character who had her big intro in chapter 2.
Honestly this is the thing that disappoints me the most; I was looking forward to having her join the party again and get some actual gameplay interactions with Susie, but she does not become playable again in either of the new chapters.
The visit to Noelle's house and her abovementioned conversation with Susie is her only major appearance, and most of it is missableโa large number of players will probably end up skipping most of their conversation by accident since there are other things going on at the same time.
Oh, and apparently you can skip it entirely if you've done the Snowgrave route by making Kris rape Noelle in her room (Yes, really, there's even a cut to black of a rose losing its petals.) More fuel for the worst kinds of het fetishists.
Bonus: Undyne is abducted before she can confess to Alphys.
There's no other yuri content that I was able to notice, even among minor characters.
tl;dr: if your main interest is yuri couples, do not buy until the game is fully complete and it's been confirmed that it isn't the longest yuribait in history, or something nastier.
>>4429598The good sounds middling and the bad sounds downright awful. There is no way I'd entertain playing it at this point.
>>4429602Yeah, it's extremely disappointing after coming off Undertale and Deltarune chapter 2.
Chapter 2 seemed to be setting up Noelle as just as important as the other three main characters, and that we'd see her grow to become a regular party member so her romance with Susie could develop through regular gameplay. Even in that chapter's Edgy Route she still gets an (offscreen) moment with Susie and at the end seems to be about to take back some agency for herself.
But instead she gets largely sidelined, her relationship with Susie gets complicated with completely unnecessary love triangle garbage, and the Edgy Route just devolves into shock value.
>>4429598>Oh, and apparently you can skip it entirely if you've done the Snowgrave route by making Kris rape Noelle in her room (Yes, really, there's even a cut to black of a rose losing its petals.)Looked into this, and not only that but later in the chapter you can prompt Kris to "think of Noelle", which causes the scene to shift to black with Noelle saying "Thank you." What the fuck?
Congrats to Toby Fox for sneaking a game that lets you preform lesbian rape correction into a Nintendo Switch direct, I guess.
>>4429959They just patched out the animation of the rose getting deflowered lol
I don't know how this story line got approved, surely at least one of the people working with Toby would have told him at some point "hey, this might not be a great idea..."
Personally speaking, I learned since Undertale to avoid the fanbase like the plague. While I wish toby just made a goddamn gender selection screen instead of pushing this pseudo nonbinary nonsense, with Frisk/Chara/Kris thatโs pretty much the point: you can decide which gender they are.
To me theyโre all girls.
That said, I believe that the flower scene is more supposed to be like a metaphor, not โactualโ physical assault.
In addition to what's already been said about the Weird Route, even ignoring the metaphorical rape scene, it's also important to note that Snowgrave Noelle is explicitly focused on Kris: there is no conversation between Susie and Noelle, even if you don't do follow through on the metaphorical rape scene, with Noelle seeming to be far more focused on Kris, scooting closer to them and trying to get their attention. If you do follow through on the rape scene, Carol calls you and says that Noelle is looking forward to seeing you.
In other words, to be perfectly blunt, even ignoring the Krusie scenes in the Normal Route, Weird Route is set to be a toxic Kriselle story, though granted, Kris is doing everything in their power to protect Noelle, and is explicitly (You) doing all of this. This does, however, play into Noelle focusing her affections on Kris, seeing them as her hero and wanting to get closer to them, though, so it's either 'wholesome if tragic Kriselle involving Kris trying to protect Noelle from (You)' or 'Toxic Kriselle where (You) demonically possess Kris and use them to corrupt Noelle.
All this being said, I do like how the Weird Route portrays all of this as evil and fucked up. You are explicitly being portrayed as a demon, a monster, the game is showing that what you're doing to Kris and Noelle is fucked up. You are very much the villain here, and the game makes no bones about (You) being the bad guy.
The final comment I'd like to make, and this I will admit is more my interpretation that anything solid, is that there are some hints, at least that I've seen, that a lot of Noelle's attract to Susie is based on how much Susie resembles Dess, Noelle's missing older sister. It seemed to me that Noelle was projecting a bit of her sister onto Susie. Now, I could be wrong, and hopefully I am, but if I'm not, that bodes I'll for Suselle, because it would then become 'I'm sorry, I was using you as a substitute for my older sister instead of seeing you for who you are'. Which, on the one hand, could lead to a healthier development for the ship. On the other hand, however, it could also lead to 'Noelle secretly had feelings for Kris all this time' mixed with 'Kris is the one who loves Susie for Susie' or something like that. As previously said by another anon, Kris being non-binary, or at least not being given explicit gender as I don't think they're explicitly non-binary in canon so much as they're referred to using 'they/them' pronouns, so it's not total 'PSYCHE, IT'S NOT YURI, IT'S HET', but the point remains.
>>4429598>yuri orientated review/thoughts>the fan base doesnโt see Kris as female so it canโt be yuriThatโs not really on the game itself, though
>flower sceneAlready cut, seems Toby thought it was a step too far a bit too late.
>missable Suselle scenesThere are quite a few, though. And these canโt be handwaved away by โit was only a dreamโ like in chapter 2. Thereโs also a conversation in the normal route where Noelle talks about just how weird Kris has been acting both in real life and in the dream where for Susie thatโs how Kris always acted, so if you really get down to it the only reason Susie likes Kris is because of (You), and the only reason Noelle is drawn to Kris in the weird route is because of (You), and the only reason Kris isnโt female in these scenarios is because of (You).
>>4430505I kind of agree with the Kris interpretation thing being not something you can blame the game for. If Kris is canonically non-binary, it's not het, no matter what the fandom thinks. And if its's up to interpretation, you can just as easily see Kris as female, making it yuri.
I would also point out the fact that Noelle recognizes that Kris is acting weird, even after all this time, shows that Noelle genuinely cares about Kris, even without (You). You can argue about romance or not, but it does show Noelle genuinely knows and cares about Kris beyond (You). Like she herself said, the two of them know each other better than anyone, so no wonder she can sniff (You) out if her mind isn't being fucked with like on the Weird Route.
>>4430514>If Kris is canonically non-binary, it's not het, no matter what the fandom thinks.if kris is a male non-binary it's het no matter what retards like you think.
>And if its's up to interpretation, you can just as easily see Kris as female, making it yuriWho gives a shit kris's sprite looks like a dude, the name kris sounds like a dude, and the majority of the fandom treats kris as a dude
>>4430516>if kris is a male non-binary it's het no matter what retards like you think.See, this is entirely on you. In canon, Kris has no set gender, so Kris can be a girl.
>Who gives a shit kris's sprite looks like a dude, the name kris sounds like a dude, and the majority of the fandom treats kris as a dudeTomboys exist. Butches exist. And really, you've never heard of a woman named Christine? You come across as being way too easily influenced by other people, for being in a thread full of art shipping UT/DR Yuri. Are you sure this is the right place for you?
>>4430518a thread full of suselle art retard, there's a reason why that's THE yuri ship of deltarune and not some self-insert shit with kris
>>4430523Not that anon, but there are fan works that depict Kris as female, they're just extremely rare comparatively.
>>4430523At least look through the thread first:
>>4331639>>4331640>>4331641>>4331642>>4331643Kris can be whatever you want them to be, including female. It's just down to the player. I'm not sure why you're so angry about this
>>4430526A handful of quite lowgrade art does not go against my point. Suselle is the far superior, far more popular yuri ship and the fact that these new chapters went with this shitty self insert garbage (which will lead to endless hetshit posting for noelle's character by artists) instead of more suselle is a travesty.
>>4430528While I'm concerned about the direction the game seems to be going in too, this post smacks of false-flagging.
>>4430528I agree with the other anon. This just reads like you're trying to start a fight.
>>4430531What I am is dissapointed, but self insert retards like you wouldnโt understand
I really want the "Thank you" scene and Carol calling Kris to tell them that Noelle is looking forward to seeing them at the festival to be fakeouts, that what happened after everything goes black in Noelle's room is that Kris regained control and removed the thorn from her finger again and tried to apologize/comfort her and that's what Noelle's "thank you" refers to.
But it seems just as likely that it's going to go the apparent path, that the thorn does have the power of direct mind control and the red dot represents the soul's influence growing inside her (possibly eventually becoming another soul, allowing the player to assume direct control of her?)
So it would be a case of a teenage lesbian getting raped (metaphorically) and forcibly penetrated (literally), which mindbreaks her into loving her assailant instead of her girlfriend, while the evil result of the union grows within her.
That's just... way, way, way too far. I don't know if I can countenance playing a game that allows the player to do that with THAT story framing.
>>4430479>All this being said, I do like how the Weird Route portrays all of this as evil and fucked up. You are explicitly being portrayed as a demon, a monster, the game is showing that what you're doing to Kris and Noelle is fucked up.This is actually part of my problem with it, the game for the most part *doesn't* call out the player for doing this route. There's even text taunting Kris/the player that they might be enjoying it. The closest thing to a direct rebuke so far is Kris beating the shit out of the soul after the bedroom scene.
What it does do is fairly realistically show Noelle's fear and mental suffering in response to your actions, which will of course leave a normal person feeling horrible... but for someone who's actually into that kind of thing? It's basically a reward. Making a route for sadists and rape fetishists can't possibly have been Toby's intent.
>>4430537>This is actually part of my problem with it, the game for the most part *doesn't* call out the player for doing this route.partially this is due to the game not really being over yet, with the next chapter being out next year and who knows when it'll be fully complete. The genocide run in UT certainty wasn't painted as a good thing, and Toby removing the flower scene already shows he didn't mean for it to be taken as far like that. Though, going off of the hidden boss scenes in Chapter 3, where in the game you end up killing the Ice Mage and everyone in town to get stronger, I have a feeling that's exactly what's going to happen in the Weird Route, barring a few lore drops on what's going on with the ice magic stuff/Kris rebelling against you like the video game protagonist coming out of the game to attack Kris.
>>4430541>The genocide run in UT certainty wasn't painted as a good thingWhat I thought was clever about Undertale's genocide route was that for the most part it portrays the characters at their most heroic, and doesn't let you revel in their suffering. It also doesn't evoke imagery of actual mass murder or genocide for its purposes.
>and Toby removing the flower scene already shows he didn't mean for it to be taken as far like that.Removing the flower sprite doesn't really change the heavy use of sexual assault tropes in the rest of the scene, it basically just adds possible ambiguity as to what happens after the screen blacks out instead of using imagery that implied Kris literally deflowered her.
The rest of the scene still reads like a textbook buildup to sexual assault, with Kris advancing on the couch toward Noelle as she cowers away, Noelle begging Kris to stop, Kris grabbing her, and Noelle being too frozen with fear to call out for help, etc.
I'd also like to point out that Kris is also being metaphorically raped, here. They are being used against their will to assault Noelle. Then, though they briefly rage against (You)...it's explicitly useless, as they're forced to take (You) back into them in order to keep living. Then, afterwards, when Susie tries to talk to Kris about it, the response box is blank, because either Kris is terrified that (You) will do the same thing to Susie that you did to Noelle...or more terrifyingly, that (You) have enough control to keep them from speaking. Another way to interpret it that I've seen is that Kris is too traumatized to think of anything to say.
>>4430537Unfortunately, in regards to the 'Thank You' scene, I believe that it will be a case of Noelle being brainwashed. If we go by the shadow crystal in Chapter 4 talking about 'Noelle clinging to you and whispering in your ear', or something along those lines, and how upset Kris was after receiving that 'Thank You' vision, I believe the implication is that Noelle has been brainwashed, and Carol, who may or may not be in cahoots with (You) given the 'You' in 'You are always welcome here' is the same red as (You) are, gleefully went along with it.
I do hear what you're saying that some people are into the horror aspect. From a story telling point of view, it is interesting to see just how terrifying (You) can be, your Meta nature making you an eldritch horror, while the emotional point of view of 'oh fuck, this is horrible and wrong and sick and evil' might not land for everyone, or go the wrong way for others.
so what I understand is that we are not getting instant gratification like Alphys x Undyne?
>>4430615Five bucks says it's going to be a multiple endings thing by the time Deltarune is done.
>>4430615I wouldn't say Alphys x Undyne was quite instant gratification; well before the end of the game both of them individually dropped hints that they were into the other but couldn't bring themselves to confess for various reasons.
...But I guess compared to waiting 7 years and counting to find out if we're getting yuribaited or not, that is instant gratification.
For what it's worth chapter 4 does confirm beyond any reasonable doubt that Susie reciprocates Noelle's feelings.
>>4430618>For what it's worth chapter 4 does confirm beyond any reasonable doubt that Susie reciprocates Noelle's feelings.While I want to agree with you, I feel like you're tempting fate. Like we're going to be saying 'yes, obviously Susie returns Noelle's feelings!', and then come chapter 5, it becomes 'Dense Susie did not, in fact, realize Noelle likes her, because Susie has never had friends until recently, and doesn't understand this isn't a friendship thing'.
>>4430619I thought Susie declaring she'd be taking Noelle to the festival kind of clinched it, but you're right, it isn't 100% locked down.
It's going to be long god knows how many years...
>>4430622I remember someone mentioning that 'yeah, Suselle is canon!' and thinking 'huh, that's surprisingly early, we've still got a few chapters left'. Until a proper declaration of love and/or a kiss, I'm holding my breath, especially given all the Krusie stuff and even some minor Kriselle stuff, ignoring the Weird Route because fuuuuck that.
I need a time traveler from 2030 to come and reassure me this game won't turn out to be a disappointment, I can't handle living in suspense for this long
God they're so cute
>>4430523>>4430528If this isn't trolling, then fwiw I can kind of understand your frustration.
It's very frustrating to constantly be told that Krusie or Kriselle aren't het when most of the shippers explicitly depict them as such. Tell that to the fucking shippers, not me!
It also doesn't help that those types of shippers seem to feel the need to constantly shit on Suselle in order to justify their own ships; when the fandom was more active there was this constant stream of essays about how Suselle is forced/unhealthy/toxic/not going to happen, and it'll probably start again soon now that the chapters are out.
I do feel bad for the people who ship female Kris with Noelle/Susie and have to wade through mountains of het and hmofa fetish garbage for a few crumbs of lesbian content.
>>4430853Carol is kind of hot
Susie's reaction to playing Noelle's them on the piano:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoctSayKfa8&t=76s
Honestly, it's so dumb Toby removed the rose, where is his integrity as an artist? Stop going online and browsing sites like this.
>>4430913I think its removal was mostly pointless since the rest of the scene is still massively evocative of sexual assault.
Honestly, both sides of the "argument" piss me off, with the Twitter types accusing you of being a perverted sicko for noticing the very blatant and obviously intentional sexual assault themes of the scene, and the /v/ types just spamming RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE and jacking off to it.
Since the rose losing its petals is a metaphor for deflowering, can we take Susie eating the rose Noelle gives her as a metaphor for cunnilingus
I'm scared about where the game's narratives could be heading, but at least the art is cute for now...
>>4430616It would seem strange to allow the player to influence who ends up with who using omnipotent time traveler shenanigans when the game's plot seems to be so strongly about respecting the characters' agency (on the normal route at least)
>>4430913The animation has now been changed to what looks like a blood-red spiderweb crack.
The patch notes state "Strengthened imagery while maintaining a scene's intended meaning", so I guess that means the Twitter kids get to scream at everyone who dares think that a scene which makes heavy use of sexual assault tropes is reminiscent of sexual assault.
Bleh.
https://tcrf.net/Deltarune/Chapter_4/Unused_Graphics#Susie
We were robbed of Suselle Gaming!
Susie and Noelle get caught kissing by her mom (mildly NSFW)
https://files.catbox.moe/jkrg8o.png
>>4431432I wonder if there's enough left in the code for dataminers to reconstruct it, like they did with chapter 3's cut third board.
Animation of Susie fingering Noelle
https://files.catbox.moe/h2k794.gif
New crackship just dropped:
So are we still dooming about Deltarune or nah
>>4431432What the hell, there's even MORE of these?? They were going to hold hands! They each had separated arm sprites so their hands could slowly move closer together!
>>4432775The final chapter will be an extended Krusie date made in collaboration with Cavemanon.
On the Weird Route Noelle will become Kris's happy murder wife and Snowgrave Susie. Then Kris kills her for XP.
The True Ending will be like that one picture at the end of Xenoblade 3 but with Kris, Susie and Noelle.
Is that sufficiently doom-y
>>4432775What is there to doom about?
>>4434378People spooked by the introduction of a love triangle involving the player character and one of the girls in the main pairing, and/or put off by the implications of the alt route, probably.
A lot of people seem to think Noelle x Susie is still 100% guaranteed, but for those who've been around the block a few times I can't blame them for being alarmed by a female/female pairing being pitted against a main character x main girl pairing.
Also the fandom is insufferable right now; all the rape joke spam, and now Noelle cuck jokes have gone mainstream, in addition to the usual Noelle/Suselle bashing. So that might affect people's disposition.
>>4434399>Also the fandom is insufferable right nowFeels like half the search results for Suselle on Twitter are just Krusie shippers shitting on it and associated arguments right now. I don't remember it being this bad outside of Reddit and 4chan before.
>>4434927U donโt understand why toby couldnโt have made suselle like undyne and alphys instead of this garbage love triangle with the mc
>>4434943I had hoped that Noelle and Susie would get more time to develop their relationship in depth when compared to Alphys and Undyne, since Noelle was supposed to be just as much of a major character as Susie, but I think I get what you mean.
And yeah, I just do not understand what Toby is trying to do with the love triangle. Highlighting the distinction between Kris and the player by having Kris display distinct preferences, but making one of the most prominent of those preferences being attracted to a character that most of the straight male fanbase has wanted to fuck since chapter 1 anyway is a baffling choice.
>>4434943>>4434975>love trianglesomewhat hyperbolic of the kris scenes within Chapter 3 and 4, especially compared to the Susie/Noelle scenes. Kris definitely cares for their friends, but the scenes we see are mainly instigated by the fear of the Player trying to control/kill them, like in Chapter 3 where Kris grabs Susie out of the way of (You) using mini-Kris to stab her after an entire secret level all about killing all their friends to get stronger, or the weird Route in Chapter 4, saying it's meant to be purely romantic interest is a bit disingenuous
and that just turns around to being /u/-related again with girl-kris, but hey
>>4435016>saying it's meant to be purely romantic interest is a bit disingenuousFor what it's worth, I would much prefer Kris caring deeply for Susie platonically rather than being into her romantically. But there do seem to be a lot of ship bait moments between them in the new chapters that can be easily seen as romantic.
I think the strongest single point for Kris having specifically romantic feelings for Susie is the scene in chapter 4 where they hold out their knife for her and blush when she puts her hand on it. Besides the obvious Freudian symbolism, I really can't think of any non-romantic reason that Kris would be embarrassed by this action (The sprites for this scene also specifically have "kris blush" in their names, as opposed to the scene where Kris blushes when overhearing Noelle and Susie talk about them where the sprites are called "kris cringe")
I agree about the chapter 3 scene on Kris's part, but the way Susie lowers her head to let Kris taste her shampoo and blushes is definitely supposed to be ship bait-y.
>and that just turns around to being /u/-related again with girl-kris, but heyMy problem with Kris x Susie from a "might become canon" perspective is that it's been the flagship for the hetero side of the fandom, specifically against the possibility of Susie ending up in a lesbian relationship with Noelle, since 2018.
I know Kris is not canonically male and not all the shippers see Kris as male, that the ship is not canonically hetero and can be viewed as yuri and all this (mostly) isn't the game's fault.
But... it's still an ambiguous ship at best, shipped popularly as het, being set directly against an unambiguously lesbian ship involving two girls.
I can't help but think it would end up like what happened with Bayonetta 3, where some people tried to claim it was positive bisexual rep while all the lesbophobes were doing victory laps in the streets.
>>4435271 (Me)
And although it probably sounds like it, I don't inherently dislike Kris x Susie as a fan ship or anything, I just think it actually becoming canon would be... not good.
Here's an ultra-rare femKris x Susie image I like which I dug up in one of my folders.
We're almost at the image limit but only on page 8... do you think it would be okay to make a new thread when this one hits image limit instead of waiting until page 10?
>>4435271>I agree about the chapter 3 scene on Kris's part, but the way Susie lowers her head to let Kris taste her shampoo and blushes is definitely supposed to be ship bait-y.[\spoiler]To me it looked like a classic situation where Susie tried to play it off as a joke by acting silly because the situation seemed very awkward to her and got flustered after realizing that Kris was still acting serious while holding her close instead. It is also very missable since you need to perform a very specific action to get it, so I don't know how seriously this is being taken by toby.
>>4435680Maybe if you have a lot of images to dump that can't wait.
>>4435954That was my thought, since people mostly used the thread to post images. (Though it's nice people are having actual discussions now, too)
And we're on page 9 now, so hopefully it's not as bad...
