Thread 4368092

A thread to discuss any personal yuri creations you're currently working on or have ideas for, and to get feedback and advice from other anons. Tell us what you're making!

This includes but is not limited to:
>yuri stories (note that fanfiction has it's own dedicated thread)
>yuri video games
>yuri comics
>yuri card games
>yuri 3D modeling and/or printing
>yuri graffiti
>yuri food
>using deep learning to construct two sentient female AI and setting them up on a blind date

Note that all the normal board rules still apply, e.g. no hetshit, etc.

Where is a good place to post comics?

>>4368102
Is this a meme?

>>4368105
I feel like people wont see my stuff if its on twitter or pixiv

>>4368108
>I feel like people wont see my stuff if it's on one of the most popular websites in existence.
And they're going to see it on some minor comic hosting site?

>>4368108
You need to post it there anyway, because it has the widest exposure. Then you need to shill it in more direct exposure enviroments like here.

>>4368108
Twitter is dying, Bluesky still new so you'd be lucky to even get 10 likes. For oc contents you'd likely get more likes on TikTok to promote the comic. Beside that it's best to look up comic sites like Mangadex or Webtoon.

I will be writing some scenes where sports happens. It's not the focus really but I want it to be coherent and not dull to read when it does.
Is there anything I should be mindful of when writing these scenes?

>>4368620
It's probably going to be boring to people not interested in the sports aspect regardless so you're better off keeping it relatively short and to the point.

>>4368117
Yes, it could work. If OP posts it small website with an active community, like a living forum, people could like it and make it a popular post there. Other people will see it and maybe repost it in bigger websites. He could also put a watermark using his accounts'
usernames people can look up for the rest of your comics, thus, exposure.

>>4368620
Make the sport understandable to the reader, give a good balance of sports and the yuri, and keep it engaging and suspenseful.

>>4368092 (OP)
>yuri 3D modeling and/or printing
Is anyone else actually doing this on /u/ yet? I've posted some of my designs in a couple threads but so far I haven't seen /u/ printing anything. I'd love to see what kind of yuri designs people are coming up with because there is very little yuri 3d printing in existence at the moment.

>yuri food
I have a box of holiday macarons that I've been eating and I think about yuri every time I have one.

>>4368984
>I have a box of holiday macarons that I've been eating and I think about yuri every time I have one.
Has to be food that looks like yuri. Like macarons, or bento boxes, or mint chocolate ice cream.

>>4368108
>>4368452
Just use bluesky. Twitter's dying and the numbers got inflated by tons of bots. Might as well build some connections on d*scord too.

I wish there a yuri doujin circle for music.

>>4369392
Realistically what would that even consist of?

>>4369397
two female lead vocalist
like hamotsuki sisters

>>4369397
A woman singing about yuri and lesbians?

>>4369399
There aren't many artists that do that, i only know Girl Kisser (a very obscure brutal death metal project, and a shit one at that), Nymphrenia (another project from the girl behind Girl Kisser, this one is dsbm focused but sadly has fewer tracks about "lesbianism") and t.A.T.u. wich we all know - a fake lesbian duo

>>4369392
>>4369397

Well, if it were a doujin circle in the most common sense, it would probably consist of a group that makes remixes of yuri/lesbian notable music. Like how Touhou "arrangement" circles do remixes of Touhou tracks.

>>4369422
Real bands aren't going to focus on it anyway, like Tegan and Sara which are twin who are both gay. Doujin music circles would basically just be the same thing that people already do with /u/ miku tracks.

>>4369397
Suggestive instrument fingering.

>>4369392
My first thought when I read this post was people making yuri doujins about girl bands. Kobato Miku is always sticking her tongue out in photos and there's gotta be a drawing somewhere out there of her eating out one of her bandmates.

Hey everyone. Not sure if anyone remembers me, but I made two OC's for a story I plan on writing. I did a major redesign for them and drew this. A brief summary of the general concept of the characters:

Lucia is the last member of a fallen aristocratic family of a former major nation that has been all but erased for various reasons leading up to the present day of the story. Though her name still holds some degree of power, she often has to commit the resources she still commands to do the dirty work of some shadowy organizations that her family had associated with in the past, and at the start of the story, she's tasked with orchestrating the death of a certain individual.

>>4369965
Setsuna, one of the many children of the current emperor. She's young - but despite this, she's a celebrity and womanizer, a complete loose cannon that pretty much goes around sleeping with women and causing property damage. Nevertheless, her antics are tolerated because of her talent, and she has as many admirers as she does detractors, being highly capable and often spending disproportionate amounts of time to solve various problems affecting the people (read: women) around her, both trivial and major - and often in a very high profile and explosive way, which only adds to her notoriety.

Lucia is tasked with getting rid of her for reasons unknown to her, but Setsuna thwarts her assassination attempt and overpowers Lucia through her own set of dirty tricks. But as the authorities arrive, instead of having the woman who was sent to assassinate her arrested and executed, she turns around and instead offers protection under the pretense of a partnership. Agreeing to this out of pure self-preservation, Setsuna fights her way out with Lucia in her arms, dragging the disgraced noblewoman along with her antics while the fraught political situation of the nation unfolds around their relationship.

>>4368092 (OP)
>yuri food
Is lily tea legit or just a meme
like the white lily, the one you see in mangas. was googling it then I found a store nearby selling it.

>>4370021
It is a legitimate food item in East Asia (flowers and bulbs only). If you believe Yurika, they are best eaten with mayonnaise.

Lilium is a poisonous plant but most varieties are safe for humans when eating the proper parts in normal portions.
IF YOU ARE A CAT OR DOG, DO NOT EAT LILIES

I've never had lily tea but I expect it would be bitter.

>yuri 3D modeling and/or printing
This just became a lot more approachable with deepseek releasing Hunyuan3D for free and open source which can AI generate a 3d mesh. If I can secure a 5090 this week I'll put all my compute towards generating yuri 3d models.

AI slop belongs in its own containment threads and definitely not here

>>4369965
>>4369966
I remember your posts, anon. I think your designs and art have definitely improved! Good luck with your writing, looking forward to seeing results.

>>4370236
Who is posting AI here?

>>4370434
This dingus>>4370229

Death penalty.

>>4370435
>>4368092 (OP)
>using deep learning to construct two sentient female AI and setting them up on a blind date
There is a significant difference in effort between using AI image generators to say "2 girls kissing" versus feeding 2d images to an AI so it can sculpt a model's mesh based on it and then print it and paint it by hand.

Including Elsanna in an anthological project with a bunch of other ships/couples is probably a quick way to catch a lot of flak, right?

>>4370434
Hopefully no one

>>4370592
Pussy.

>>4370692
Okay, anon. Machikado out, Elsanna in.

>>4368108
If it's good they will.

>>4369219
I've been thinking about making a server for Yuri projects like how doujin have circles but I'm wondering if people would wanna join? Since there's rarely these project threads I feel like there would be a small group which doesn't sound so bad. I don't have any online following or communities so I'm new to setting up these things.

>>4372746
>D******
No

These threads never go anywhere. Other anons are only into some weirdass shit that I can't stomach, and nobody actually finishes anything beyond rough sketches. Just a lot of ideas people.

>>4372936
Inaccurate.

>>4372936
The last thread had a couple of VN projects
>>4372746
I wouldn't mind as long as we all help each other out.

>get inspiration to make a web novel
>write it out
>realize it's only going to disappear in the void because the market is oversaturated and the internet is already full of writers
>think it could have a better chance to stand out as a comic/webtoon
>after a full month of work, barely have 1 chapter done, which doesn't cover even 3% of the story
>realize I could've written another novel in that time
I have no idea what I'm doing or what I should do

>>4372966
Market saturation doesn't amount to anything, especially assuming you're writing GL, which is a small market always looking for content. I also dunno why you'd think that but then move to webtoons, which is if anything an even more saturated market than English web novels. Post your WN.

>>4372975
It's always easier to appeal through visuals than prose, since one is taken in passively and the other takes conscious effort to get into. Most western webtoons have really awful visuals too, so it's not very difficult to stand out there, especially if you have a background in arts. The choice would be a no-brainer, if making comics weren't so slow and painful.

>>4372980
I don't know, anon. I read shit tons of fanfics but never many webcomics. Unless you are REALLY standing out (e.g. Gunnerkrigg, Ava's Demon, Ada) I personally feel like passable art web stuff just blends together and there's not much reason to grab interest. That's why even though there are ostensibly a bunch of English yuri comics on Webtoons, the only ones of note are... are there even any besides pre-shitstorm Mage and Demon Queen? Admittedly I don't keep up with the webtoon thread.

I just feel like an English yuri web novel at least has more novelty going for it, especially if you're not coming from an art background and doing the comic is arduous. You'd probably get better results out of sheer volume of writing a bunch of yuri webnovels drawing people in than torturing yourself with converting it to another format where there's more competition.

Still though, post your WN (here). Or the comic chapter?

>>4373000
>I read shit tons of fanfics but never many webcomics
>the only ones of note are... are there even any
Well, that's just the thing, there really aren't. If you google lists, the same names are repeated ad nauseam. You don't have a lot of serious competition there.

>I just feel like an English yuri web novel at least has more novelty going for it
Have you heard of Royal Road? A website for amateur web novels. People have tried to assemble lists of all the works there with lesbian protagonists, but all gave up and vanished. There are literally thousands. Every day you get like five new people in the forum threads asking to be added. Impossible to keep up. Yuri content is actually becoming more common than heterosexual male leads by this point. Gonna need one hell of a hook to stand out.

>Still though, post your WN (here). Or the comic chapter?
The first draft of the novel version is done, but it still needs thorough editing before it's worth sharing. And I'm not done coloring all the comic yet.

>>4372966
>>4372975
>>4372980
I think that most western webcomics are passion projects so people of different skill level will post what they make. afaik the eastern webcomics that we see the most are the ones where the artist is working with the publishing platform so there would be more revision/editing to make it look better.

>>4373027
>it still needs thorough editing before it's worth sharing. And I'm not done coloring all the comic yet.
I guess, but it's not like things need to be complete before they're posted here. It's a thread for stuff you're working on not stuff you've already made.

>>4373058
You're not wrong, but it's still early for everything, and I don't want to give the wrong impression about what it's going to be like. Either way, it's a big project that I'll be working on for years to come, so I'll report back when I have something tangible and /u/-relevant to show.

>>4372957
>>4372910
I get that people don't like discord cus it can become a den of degens but can't such a fate be possible in all other platforms? I guess people also don't want their work to be associated with discord or 4chan. I don't see why it would be such a bad thing but then again none of stuff I posted ever got such enough traction where I would feel any repercussion.

>>4373185
I know people hate discord but I would like and join a server that was about personal projects. I have no where to talk about things or ask questions since there is so much gatekeeping in the "make your own yuri media" sphere.

>>4373663
>there is so much gatekeeping in the "make your own yuri media" sphere
...What?

>>4373058
Kinda want to see yuri tarrot cards now

outlining for a story in a 20 year old fandom. It's not very innovative, I just want to put it out there.

>>4373689
Don't steal my fucking project, anon.

>>4373689
>>4373695

>>4373695
>>4373699
If it's yours I wanna buy a set and/or download it

>>4373185
Discord is the natural final destination for the class of people who are desperate for immediate human contact beyond anonymous forum posts, but who, for reasons, can't actually interact with people personally irl. So, less surprisingly, it's pretty much unusable for anybody sane and balanced.

>>4373711
I have to figure out distribution when it's finished. I started it just to replace my regular deck that's too big to shuffle, but once it's done it'd be easy enough to order more prints.

>>4373720
Ohhh the fool card looks great! Is that MHA tho?

>>4373725
Togachako, yeah.

Are there yuri playing cards?

>>4373663
>there is so much gatekeeping in the "make your own yuri media" sphere
Care to elaborate

>>4373663
>>4373663
>>4373672
Only other "Yuri" server I've seen is the Yuri Jam one where every other OC/progress post has a penis and I'm sure women don't have those.

>>4373663
If you're an actual woman, go try hunting down the cis woman yuri server. I'm sure you'll have better luck there

>>4373841
NYA but I tried and it's hard to find one that's somewhere in the middle. You either have to settle for very prude group where explicit content and nudity is "male gazey" or a group where troons are self inserting with "dick girls".

>>4373853
NTA*

>>4373853
Well considering they were advertising on here it's definitely a safe bet they aren't "prudey"

>>4373882
Who was advertising their server here?

>>4373926
Some anon like a month ago. They kept getting deleted (probably because it's considered advertising?). I was in there and they only check for voice to let you in

>>4373928
The "looking for femanons" discord creep gets deleted on sight for spamming and advertising. In the supremly unlikely scenario this was a different group (highly doubt it), they would get hit too.

>>4374026
They and the people I spoke to didn't seem that way so not sure

>>4374026
>>4373841
It's not a creator/project discord anyway, so it's totally irrelevant to the thread.

>>4374026
>>4374039
>>4374053
I'd join, anyone got the link? Or is even asking for the project discussion server gonna get this post deleted as well?

>>4374189
>asking for the project discussion server
There isn't one, that was my >>4374053 point. The one in question was just a generic yuri server that some probable tourist was spamming in the general thread.

>>4374193
I'd still join it.

>>4374195
So dig it up in the archive, newfriend.

>>4374193
Uh, I think the "looking for femanons" thing was some autist looking for a date, or a bot, not /u/-related. At least, I saw identical threads spammed on /v/ and /lit/ and probably other boards too. I can't believe anyone would be fucking retarded enough to follow a link by an unknown spammer. What do you think you'll get out of it? A pleasant discussion? wtf

Isn't Royal Road filled with trash anyway? The last story I read there was about an older woman who got isekai'd to a fantasy world and rescued a princess or something, but the author kept shipping her with guys so I dropped it because reading it was becoming as exciting as sticking needles in my eyeballs. I've always posted my original stuff on AO3 along with my fanfiction anyway, I wouldn't post on wattpad if I got paid for it.

>>4368092 (OP)
Only idea I have at the moment is clumsy idiot villain is in love with the heroe she has to take down so most of her schemes are actually romantic plans that the heroe misunderstand as actual menaces. Was planning to add the villain her two equally dumb henchmen (tall and skinny/short and fat guys) who want to help her but she doesn't listen to them either for her ego or their ideas end up in failure too.
I feel like this is like Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete, or other similar series with the same plot but wanted to show it anyway

>>4374700
>men
stopped reading there

>>4374559
Isn't posting original works on AO3 technically against its rules?

>>4374805
>Can I post original fiction?
>Yes. Original works are allowed, unless the work would be in violation of some other part of the Terms of Service.
You're not supposed to post anything that is intended for commercial publication, and you're not supposed to post what they term "ephemeral" content, e.g. shit like blogs reacting to specific episodes of a show, or a personal journal, or recommendation lists.

>>4374766
They are just comedy reliefs idiots who want to see their boss happy with her beloved hero

>>4375044
>comedy reliefs idiots who want to see their boss happy with her beloved hero
could achieve the same result by using girls.

>10 views
>0 likes
It's over

>>4375487
post it

>>4373672
>>4373819
Shit sorry, forgot about the thread for a bit.

I guess it goes hand in hand with the overall "making" sphere in that if you ask someone something like "oh, where'd you source this particular music from?" you'll get a response like "Well i'm sure if you look around you could find it maybe." Or telling another VN maker "The background at the start of [XX's route] is nice, did you make/commission it yourself?" and getting a snarky answer like "Maybe? I don't know."
Now I'm not trying to rip off anyone's work or use their media 1:1, but lets say something was commissioned, perhaps I could comm good background art of my own. Or if the music came from a particular library, I'd like to see what else there is. But again, its the same type of shit you get at artist alleys and asking some people who printed their merch or whatever (for example).

>>4376001
I get where you're coming from, but there's also something to be said about nebulous wording in licenses and rules concerning assets that can be easily twisted, not to mention the outrage culture that's so widespread among gamers where just one guy taking offense at something trivial can immediately snowball into a besmirching and review-bombing swarm, which is going to forever ruin your already abysmal chances of surviving the market.
As an indie developer it's simply safer to give away as little information as possible about your process.

>>4376082
none of that has anything to do with anything anon said sis

If I wrote down my plans for a project would you guys be ok to help me with the writing? Specifically dialogue as I don't know how normal people interact irl.

>>4376141
It's unlikely that you're going to find anyone willing to write your project for you, but you could write it yourself and someone may proofread it to offer feedback.
Or you can just post your ideas in the Yuri Ideas thread >>4229817.

>>4376141
Simple solution: have your characters NOT be normal people. Have them be fucking weirdos like us.

>>4376134
NTA but yes it does. Anon is saying that you get responses like
>"oh, where'd you source this particular music from?" you'll get a response like "Well i'm sure if you look around you could find it maybe."
Because potentially, they don't actually know if they have the commercial licensing for that particular music, so they do not want to say "I got it from X website" and implicate themselves, or answer a question about whether art is something they made/commissioned, because in all likelihood they just downloaded it off google and have no rights to use it. Other anon brought up artist alleys, and this is evasiveness is especially common with them for the same reason: because often people are just stealing shit. Printing out someone else's art that they have zero claim to and selling it, so asking about where it came from is like asking some shady person selling watches on a street corner where they got them from.

Which is all to say that it's not actually gatekeeping, or a feature of the actual ""make your own yuri media" sphere". It's a defensive mechanism of a specific sort of "dev" cutting a bunch of corners.

>>4376142
>>4376143
What if I say pretty please?

>>4376147
If I was to cut corner by using audio and background images from other people (even if credited or noted on the game) and then make the game free would this still upset people?

>>4376151
>credited or noted
I mean... did you ask or are you just crediting them?

>>4376147
>because often people are just stealing shit
I have no doubt that's the case, but even someone doing everything by the book will still have to deal with dubious licenses, or purposely unclear disclaimers about using free or paid assets, I was just reading this the other day:
https://opengameart.org/forumtopic/source-required-for-art-licensed-under-the-gpl
I've found free asset authors threatening users to release the entire source code of their game if they dared cut 5 seconds from a music clip, cause the license vacuously alludes to "providing source", and that's one of the most used ones to boot.
You can of course call out developers to make everything themselves or outsource to professionals if they don't like taking risks, but when you're making a game on your own, especially if it's not something cheap like a VN, that's often not a realistic possibility, so you either give up or play by the rules, and the rules encourage evasiveness.

>>4376297
No asking, just slap their name on the ending scroll or settings page.

>>4376326
I think it would be understandable if they were annoyed.

>>4376326
That would be silly, not only are you using assets without permission but you're also openly admitting to it and giving everyone a chance to contact the original authors and tell them about it

>>4376319
The GPL is great precisely because it is so explicit and legally well established. If an author with poor legal understanding threatens you you simply ignore him and continue following the terms outlined by the license.

Hi guys. This is the concept I'm working with.
>all girl/women's institution from 1920 to 1940s Japan.
>First years are assigned parental figure buddies who help them adjust to the school.
> School focuses on Arts but there is STEM and Athletics track as well.
>MC is a first year and can pursue 2-3 romantic options (classmates and seniors) in the first semester, the second semester will be released at a later date with additional romance options.
> Additional plans: minigames for allowance. Gifting system. helping other students get together.
>probably free.
The family buddy system was inspired by the system that was at my university, yes a senior male and female student became your parents. Was this the case with anyone else? I saw that Marie sama ga miteru has a similar sisterhood system. Because it's female only, the mom is a girl, and the dad is a girl. This aspect is influenced by Takarazuka as well.
I made a draft for the type of art style I am aiming for, I think a more cute style would be good for a VN. Yes I know the text is awkward lol but is this something yurifans will enjoy?

>>4376455
That'd be almost more interesting for the parental dynamics than the MCs love life. Especially if its a boarding school and the girls start taking the parental parts way more serious in lieu of contact to their real parents.
Imagine she has a classmate crushing on her and then goes for her "mom".

>>4376459
During this period, it's a boarding school. The MC is free to play it without concerning with the parental system during the first half of the game so it would be a normal dating simulator (or you can just focus on your studies and not date).
The parental system gets addressed at a later stage when the MC is in the higher grades. If the MC were to date their classmate's parent, it should have consequences (good or bad) and affect their other relationships. Whether the MC does date anyone or not, the other NPCs' relationship with each other would still progress (for now just by clicking certain options).
Hope this can clear some things up, do ask if there is more that is confusing.

>>4376425
I assure you the legal implications are anything but straightforward, and even if you're 100% certain you'd win an altercation, getting sued is still not a desirable outcome, and in general a pissed off someone can easily escalate into losing face with the gamer audience, which is known to be trigger happy with the pitches and forks.
As I said before, rather than painting a target on your back, it's simply safer to divulge as little as possible, especially when years of work are put at stake with any controversy that might arise.

>>4376143
But we already have AdaShima.

>>4376591
Those two can actually go outside and work a job and go to school.
What I'm thinking is a pair of true degenerate lesbians. The most obnoxious annoying internet troll/spammer but in real life. The kind of person that the police would look the other way if you stabbed them to death in front of them.
The kind of person who says lol in real life.

>>4376473
I think the whole surrogate parents in the form of slightly less teenage girls is a fun idea you could run with. The rest of it frankly sounds like you're trying a way too big scope for a first project.

So I'm working on making a "stat raising sim" type of game where the main character takes care of their alien love interest (and of course they're building their relationship too); think Volcano Princess or Idoly Pride at its core. But I'm stuck between having the main character be a normal woman - office lady, librarian, school teacher...something - or maybe a scientist? I'm not too far into writing so I can go either way, but I don't know which would have more appeal.
What does anon think?

>>4369397
That one Innocent Key album.

>>4377749
I think it depends on how far you want to lean into the alien/sci-fi theme as opposed to it being a more laidback setting where one of the character just happens to be an alien. Which one has more appeal? I like the scientist, but this isn't a question that can be reasonably answered unless you have a team of market researchers at your disposal. You should choose the one you're personally more interested in writing.

Posted about it last thread, but we're still working on our exhibitionist yuri vn. We should have it released by the end of the year.

>>4377973
They can't both have glasses, that's against the rules.

>>4377762
Fair, you have a point about market research. Personally I wasn't too picky because I like both ideas and I could go into either. I didn't want to make a poly pairing or a harem so I didn't just go with both from the get go but I'll have to think about it after all!

On the subject of stories, traumatizing your reader is a surefire way to become memorable. I'm planning to kill my favorite character by refusing to give her plot armor.

Here's my first yuri artwork i've made. Yes, i know it's not very good.

>>4379949
What did you use to make it?

>>4379950
I used gmod for the background, VRoid studio for the girls, and did the rest of the work (outlines, colouring and shading) in gimp

>>4379925
I respect it. More people need to kill their characters. If I had the drive to actually work out the stories I think up I planned to have my protagonist get torn to shreds in an explosion at the end right after she teleports her girlfriend to safety, then the surviving gf lives the rest of her life with survivor's guilt.

>>4381338
>More people need to kill their characters
All the bitching and moaning from readers gets old after a while.

>>4379949
Looking cute, What's going on? Too much exhibitionist lesbians or something with that sign?

>>4381338
>More people need to kill their characters.
While it's true that character death is a cheap shortcut to elicit emotional reactions, most yuri isn't particularly suitable for it, since it tends to revolve around getting the readers to root for a couple managing to get together and be happy ever after, so making the goal unreachable would quickly dissipate any motivation in following the story.
Which is not to say tragic or bittersweet love isn't a thing, but it's not usually what people reading yuri are looking for, probably because it was so overdone in the past.

>>4368092 (OP)
Making dumb yuri 2d game platformer made in rpg maker. You can fall from jumping but it does let you avoid attacks and get to places, im probs just gonna make it a comedy cause i dont see myself being a master at dialogue
question is if i should allow the ending where you end up with two girls.

I'm at 88k words now in the first draft of the Prudence Prep sequel project and officially decided on the title too.

>>4386410
Why roses this time?

>>4386454
Because it's different but keeps the descriptive flower title construction.
The "secret lilies" of the original were the secret yuri cabal. This will exists five years later in the sequel, but the MC and her roommate don't officially know about it at all.
Yuri Hime had an ecchi magazine by the name Wildrose. This VN is actually less ecchi than the previous but in the story, the Prudence Wild Roses is the name of the academy lacrosse team Izzie started and for which the MC and one other character plays.

I've been working on a VN for a long time whenever I can. I don't have a lot of free time and it's an ambitious project because I'm doing all of the art, writing, and music. It's slow going but I'm working on it regularly. However, I'm wondering if there is anyone else besides me who would even be interested in playing a neo-noir dystopian yuri set in an alternative 1985. This hits all of my personal interests but do you guys think it's too niche? I'm mostly driven by my own enthusiasm for the story anyway but it can be hard to stay motivated when you aren't sure if there's anyone else in the middle of that particular Venn diagram with you.

>>4386839
None of that is niche. People are really into 80s stuff, they're really into noir, and they're really into dystopia.

>>4386842
I guess my main concern is whether or not people who are also into yuri would be interested in playing it, especially since the romance itself is just one piece of the overall narrative. Personally I dislike VNs that center the romance and neglect the story but that is most of what I see actually being played on Steam.

>>4386839
If you have a passion for it then you should make it regardless of anyone else.

>>4386845
Thanks anon, I will definitely see it through because we all have an individual responsibility to fill the world with yuri. I'll share a scene here once I finish programming it.

>>4386839
Does it take place in East Germany?

>>4386850
No, it`s set in what remains of the USA. I`m thinking of it as being mainly set in NY state but I don`t intend to specify it in the story

I'm too much of a pussy to kill off any character. I can't handle leaving their partners broken.

>>4388217
Same. I wanna make a world that is kinda bleak and war driven, but I don't wanna kill the girls. Makes seem a bit less serious if all I do is kill men that I don't care about

>>4388791
The majority of people involved in wars (even the active combatants) don't die.

>>4388828
I wanted something bad to happen to my protagonist, who's a gigantic lesbian. Like, a reckless action she did got a girl killed type of stuff. For example, she would let a criminal get away because she was being discriminated against by men. But that same woman later detonates a bomb that kills a close ally companion. Something that sticks with her and makes her question if she was doing the right thing.

>>4388989
Sounds dumb desu.

>be me
>have a sleep deprivation fueled idea for my novel
>write it down while tweaking autistically at 5 am
>several pages, complete outline of the plot + several paragraphs so good they need 0 editing
>don't save the file
>leave libreoffice running in the background for 6 months or so
>restore files every time i switch the pc on without looking at them
>struggle with my novel (forgot the outline existed)
>decide to clean up my computer
>find the file
>immediately solves writer's block
Am I stupid or am I stupid?

>>4368092 (OP)
Writing is harder then i remember

>>4396235
Because you're not horny enough

>>4396235
What are you having trouble with?

Are there any good resources to train the characterization and storytelling muscle? Whenever I have a vague idea (which is already nothing original usually), my brain just gets stuck while trying to flesh it out, I rarely even get to writing the actual manuscript. Writing is one of those things I dream to do but just can't seem to get into. Shame to admit but I've even tried bugging LLMs for help, though they don't seem to be doing any better than me, which is already the lowest of bars.

>>4397154
What I like to do when I get an idea is write it down, then continue thinking about it for a few days to flesh it out. After a short time I have a rough outline of how I want the plot to go and a few scenes that I want to work in between the major plot points. Once you actually start writing it all just kind of keeps developing from there and you can tie everything together better with editing.
tl;dr my advice is to just start writing, expand on what worksz remove what doesn't

>>4397154
Try writing OCs in an already-established fandom. It's pretty cringe but it's a way to work on characterization and plot stuff without having to worry about worldbuilding.

>>4397154
>my brain just gets stuck while trying to flesh it out
Learn not to do that. Skip past those parts and keep going. The end result won't be pretty, but you have made progress and it'd be better next time.
Trying to be good at something while learning it is never a good idea.

>>4396848
Just trying to write Yuri self incest story and im thinking of a prologue and if to narrate from characters pov or from third person.
Honestly i have autism so i just wrote some, comsiderd its to slow of a start so wrote of small details about scene and character that i want to write about.
So im gonna keep what i wrote for the future and now im gonna start with a smut scene.

Currently brainstorming ideas for a Magical Girl story.
>there is suffering but it's not directly tied to a Magical Girl's state of being, i.e. being meguca is NOT suffering.
>They can heal anything that doesn't kill them outright, but that takes a long time and they heal significantly faster if physically close to another mahou shoujo, even more if intimacy is happening
>MC-chan is a naive (though not retarded) idealist who "loves everyone" and keeps talking about love. Think if Flonne from Disgaea was slightly less dense.
>current best friend is mega shy and emotionally vulnerable (is "neurotic" the right word here?). Also a mahou shoujo, potential love interest, confirmed bi but her male crush dies a third into the story.
>childhood friend that she had a falling out with is working for a yakuza syndicate. Also a mahou shoujo and potential love interest. The yakuza boss' daughter is also a mahou shoujo but not involved in terms of yuri except maybe sleeping next to a meguca for healing.
>The last potential love interest for MC-chan is a mysterious stranger mahou shoujo who is sometimes THE enemy for other mahou shoujos in MC-chan's squad, sometimes she's an ally, sometimes just kind of there, but will always protect MC-chan, and later turns out to actually be MC-chan from a parallel universe.
>Currently thinking of making the selfcest route into the endgame.
>there are also two tomboys that are gay for each other

>>4398093
>bislut for no reason
>main girl doesn't even get to sleep with the yakuza princess
Disappointing concept.

>>4398343
I'm tired of pretending that bi and straight girls simply don't exist.
No one is saying they have to fuck guys in your story just because there not gold stars.

>>4398349
Focusing on the completly wrong part of the criticsm imo

>>4398093
Why are you posting on /u/ if you are just making it a het story for most of it, who are you appealing to ? Yuri gods will leave due the character being a Bi slut and because they dont wanna read a romance with a male.
Male self inserts will leave and or get mad once they see the male die.
Why not just make the girl lesbian ? you can have straight or bi people in the story but having mc chan be bi is the dumbest deicion.

>>4398349
I didn't mind it when I read the pitch, but people who pretend its rare to see bi or straight girls as side or even major characters in yuri are disingenious cretins of the highest order.

>>4398349
>>4398401
This. What are you even trying to soapbox here? Nearly every /u/ relevant western couple is either a bi girl with a lesbian or two bi girls together. A significant number of eastern yuri series feature bisexual girls. Most /u/ content from both of those domains feature either straight side couples, or are themselves side couples in media with straight main couples.

I wish people would stop pretending two lesbians liking each other is some hegemony that needs to be subverted, or that bisexualityor lack of gold stars are underrepresented. They are the fucking norm. Also
>they heal significantly faster... even more if intimacy is happening
This feels unnecessary and contrived. There is the potential for natural intimacy just by virtue of their powers being stronger around each other, lampshading it with this "they totally have to hold hands or make out to heal" bit just undermines the sincerity of any physical intimacy because now it feels like it's being done because the author wrote in some arbitrary circumstance to force it to happen.

>>4398380
MC-chan is a lesbian, its her friend thats bi. Also guys who watch magical girl anime do not watch it for the guys that appear.

>>4398428
>undermines the sincerity of any physical intimacy
Great point and worth considering, thanks!

>>4398349
This isn't me btw though i share the sentiment somewhat.

Vaguely related question: do japanese children also have a "boys/girls are icky" phase or is this a western exclusive thing?

>>4398577
>do japanese children also have a "boys/girls are icky" phase or is this a western exclusive thing?
Its a pretty universal thing.

>>4398349
>my fictional world will have freaking magic, parallel dimensions and convenient arbitrary consequences for intimacy
>but I don't feel comfortable with having a handful of lesbians, that's taking things too far!

I encourage varied casts and don't mind males in stories, but if you come to /u/ of all places and insist on talking about bisexuality and hetshit, you must be trolling.

>>4398681
First, like i said two posts earlier, that post wasn't made by me. Second:
>one (1) character is bi, cast otherwise full of lesbians
>"not comfortable with lesbians"
You sure you're not projecting?

>>4398699
I just don't think having a token bi, or even a token het for that matter, is a bad thing. Or is tokenism the problem here?

Ok this is getting really too far off topic now.

>>4398739
Agreed.
Some additions to my above pitch:
>they also have mentor magical girl milfs/hags/cakes/whatever you wanna call em (there is no magical mascot pet that explains stuff, part of the plot involves them having to figure shit out themselves)
>those mentors are also gay, older mentor for younger mentor, but said younger mentor is gay for another mahou milf her age that they saw die and should be dead, but she came with alternate MC-chan from the parallel universe.
>they were not romantically involved in her home universe, but in this one they were.

I'm not clicking your nameless zips, retard

>>4402170 is Fermion https://vndb.org/v5903 script disassembly.
>>4403070 is Kindan no Paradise (PC-98 version) https://vndb.org/v8865 stuff.
I don't think anyone cares about these kinds of games anymore, so I'm just posting them for myself.

>>4403095
Not the anon above, but why would you post them here, in the thread for original stuff and not in the games thread?

>>4403095
Fermion looks exactly like my type of jam, so if anything thanks for bringing my attention to it.

Exciting news! Secret Lilies of Prudence Prep v2.0 is out now!
The biggest update in this new version is all new backgrounds!
https://spcyaya.itch.io/prudenceprep/devlog/916161/secret-lilies-v2-is-here

>>4403220
Nice, definitely looks a lot nicer than before! I was gonna complain about the windows being off until I realized they must be the sliding type.

>>4403223
Most windows in the US go up and down like that.

>>4403220
Clear improvement over what was shown before

>>4403223
>>4403543
It's real artwork now so of course it looks better!

>>4403220
Very nice. Happy to see it. Although to be honest, the old backgrounds never bothered me.

I plan to draw some pages about this Itou Hachi's couple. Gonna post more when I'm finished.

>>4404631
Tea or "tea"?

>>4403220
Looks great excited for the sequel

Working on a setting, possibly for a vn, where through science women can have children together. A married couple of women have 6 daughters together, who end up forming couples amongst themselves. Also optionally the grandmother and aunt get involved.

Really struggling with names, though. Was thinking of paired names, like naming the twins Lily and Yuri, but can't think of names for the rest.

>>4414299
Looks like some nasty depraved pervert shit, good job so far.
Have the moms breastfeed them.

>>4414304
Thank you, this is the inspiration I was hoping for when I posted that.

>>4415094
Have BOTH moms breastfeed them at the same time. There's enough room for two nipples in one mouth!

>>4415095
I should probably stop doing sketches for CG before I even named the characters. Or did anything else besides drawing for that matter.

>>4415124
Considering you actually have solid artistic skills you are a leg up above most of us here. How do you feel about your writing skill?

>>4415148
I've got no experience with writing, so I have no clue. I like to think I at least know proper English and can write coherent, grammatically-correct sentences.

As for art, I think these sketches look passable but the final art is bad (See: >>4414240). I probably need to work on properly rendering art, if I ever want to make anything.

>>4415155
I think you're too hard on yourself about the rendering. If nothing else you can write the story outline and plot beats to see if any one can flesh it out. I know you can commission Ebi-hime for that

What is the recipe for a visually appealing couple? It can't be just about making one light haired and the other dark haired

>>4417136
Contrast. That's the actual reason for the hair.

Tried to make a stealth yuri story for Webtoon's competition, but was too slow and couldn't finish in time. I put about 8-10 hours a day into it for 3 weeks and feel sick now. Didn't seriously believe I'd win 150,000 dollars, but can't really say it was good practice either, because I feel I didn't improve at all.

Welp, guess I'll drink my lights out

>>4418919
MC looks cute and I like her hair

>>4418926
She's the love interest. The protagonist is a titty monster.

>>4418919
Link? Looks very good. And what do you mean by stealth yuri

>>4419047
It starts out as an action-focused fantasy story without suggestions of romance. The protagonist is the best friend of a princess, but it later turns out she actually loves her romantically and the feeling is mutual.

But it's not available anywhere, because the contest deadline was today and, as said, I failed to finish the required chapters. I don't want to abandon it completely though

>>4414299
Damn I'm late but this sounds awesome and I hope you can get it finished one day. I know they're just preliminary sketches but those designs are delightfully smutty and sexy in all the best ways.

>>4419056
10 hours for 3 weeks is almost suicide. Recover well

>>4419125
Thanks nee-chan. I figured I should be able to crank out a chapter per week in case the company offered a serialization, but yeah, not one of my brightest ideas...

How shitty would it be if I make my own yuri comic with mspaint and null drawing abilities

>>4422496
Bad yuri is still better than no yuri.

>>4422496
Go read Super Mega Comic if you need inspiration for making a fun comic with no drawing ability.

>>4422496
If can you embrace the mspaint esthetic and make up for the shitty graphics with interesting ideas, then go for it.

I saw somebody on xitter make big bucks redrawing anime screenshots in mspaint. There seems to be something of a community built around "I do X in mspaint"

>>4415095
Here you go, something I wanna include in my final game if I ever make it. Any feedback on the quality of the art would be appreciated, I really need it.

>>4424514
You keep down playing your coloring skills but it looks super solid

it looks clean, your line art skills are phenomenal! if I were you though, I’d focus on focal points cause right now it’s a little hard to look at. That could be making the background more muted colors and having your subjects be more saturated, to just thickening the line art (line weighting) depending on what’s closer and what you want the eye to focus on. Otherwise, really good

>>4376141
>>4376148
Are you an artist? I might be interested if so

Probably not the place for this but i finally got around to watching madoka magica and im wondering what animes people would recommend watching after?

>>4424514
With background art in general it'll do you better to include more stuff to make it look more "complete". Even better if it's the "environmental storytelling" kind like for example underwear, alarm clock that tells the time (sex at 2am?), sexy posters, etc. But it's easy to overdo this and muddle the focal point so experiment with muting colors like anon said.

I feel like I missed out when I see all these old AMVs on YouTube from the mid 2000's so I made one today.
trigger warning: loser bullying

https://youtu.be/geX87avmibk

>>4424850
11/10, perfectly captured the essence.

>>4425244
I almost put an "Unregistered Hypercam" watermark on it.

>>4424850
Nice job, the title font and song choice really sell the vibe. Shizuma did nothing wrong

How do you get the motivation to keep working on your projects? It feels like the modern yuri fandom likes nothing but the most mediocre, white bread, tropey works in existence. Is there even a point to trying to innovate anymore?

>>4425282
Make it for yourself if no one else.

>>4425288
Do this. You WILL attract a small but niche audience that will love and adore you so long as you don't betray them or yourself.

>>4425288
>>4425370
That is the most phenomenal advice you'll get. I got stories in the pipleline that I plan to pay all out of pocket for but only because I want more of that type of Yuri in the world

You absolutely have to do this shit for you

Do anons like/mind a named, non-customizable protag in their VNs? Or do they prefer unseen and player named?
I'm not sure how to go about it since I'm planning to have lines semi-voiced. The love interests will call the player big sister sometimes regardless, but if the protagonist goes on to have a name they'll use that too (and if not, then of course they'll default to big sis every time they speak player's name).

>>4425282
>Is there even a point to trying to innovate anymore
What are your innovations?

>>4425467
Named and with proper portraits.

>>4425467
>named, non-customizable protag
that's the bare minimum
>unseen and player named
self-insert garbage, yuri is only interesting when it's between real characters
>The love interests will call the player
already on the wrong track, you should be thinking in terms of 'the love interests call the protagonist'; also multiple love interests seem to imply harem, which is the most shallow self-serving junk ever invented, make it one love interest for the protagonist and several side couples instead if you want something worthwhile

>>4425467
I prefer named characters to self-inserts, but I don't innately hate self-inserts either. I'll read both kinds.
>>4425282
That's true for everything. If you want to write something popular, you'll have to write something generic and relatable and hope for a windfall of luck. If you want to write something you'd like to read yourself, don't think about the fandom at large and just write that.

>>4425496
>>4425497
I also would prefer my named characters since thats how I wrote the story, but I figured I'd check anyway. Also it isn't a harem. You can NOT pick more than one chick to romance. There are 4 girls, 1 protag for each of them, and 1 storyline each. If you want a different girlfriend then you'll need to pick a different protagonist totally, but you do have to make nice with the other 3 girls.
I don't mind when the protag has her pick of a few girls and then you end up on the personal track of whoever you got enough flags or whatever for but I'm not a fan of actual harems.
>>4425506
Same. I also don't hate self-inserts, but I prefer when the protag has a base personality that fits with the story and you can impress a bit of your own style on the story. Again just a question. As much as the story is for me and my group, we still want people to eventually read it and [maybe] like it.

Working on love interests designs with my artist. Gotta work on the protagonists for each girl now.
I love age gaps of all types, but now we need to think about how much of a gap to have.

>>4426859
Overalls is cute and looks like she gives good hugs.

>>4426864
She for sure does, she's very into physical touch.

>>4426859
The older they are the further the age gap is acceptable. Like, this may just be me but I like a 16 year old student with a 24 year old teacher but a 14 y/o being with anyone older than 18 or 19 makes me iffy.

>yuri card games
I've had a few ideas for card games before but none of them really worked for them to be explicitly "yuri" before. It started as "The joke is pornography, but I'm taking the joke very seriously." The rules have a game system I'd thought about in various incarnations before landing on this. For the amount of time I've put into this little project I'm happy with its current state. I call it "Three's Company." Basic rules are
>shop of neutral "Love Interest" cards that you have to collect stats in various attributes in order to "buy" (Flavored as that girl falling in love with you) first to 3 wins.
>you play character cards (called "Friends") that you can have date one another (But not yourself, they're in your "Friend Zone") to begin farming stat points for you. Color of card border determines which stat- there are 5. Love interests can require points in all 5 stats though not all do.
>you can disrupt your opponent by making their couples break up as well as most of the usual card game interaction points- though lack of a combat system means it's not just another magic clone
The current card pool I've made has 220 cards- including the Love Interests. Whether or not anybody ever actually plays a game of it is largely irrelevant to me, though if it does happen I'd love to have feedback on anything you care to comment on. I plan on making themed mini-expansions just for fun, if there's interest I'll post those when they're done, too.
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bbc9jpsbiamjw/Three's_Company_Alpha_0.1

>>4426870
Yeah, I figured it might make people a bit squeamish if one of the girls is that young. I may give her another year but if it helps the protag for her storyline is not an adult either.


The quick gist is that all four girls are part of an entertainment company; they specialize in different things but the overall place of work is the same so there is some storyline crossover but no romantic line blurring (lets go with A, B, C, D from left to right)
>A is an actress. Plenty of extra roles under her belt, but never the star role. She's paired with an older actress - maybe 9-12 years older than her. This would be the oldest gap.
>B is in the modeling track and you'd play as a designer she works with constantly. (6-7 yrs older)
>C wants to be a TV personality. Her match is a more experienced coworker that has been working with her recently. (5 yrs older)
>D is an idol. One of the teammates in the group is her protag; at most she'd be 19 since you tend to debut girls that are close in age.
Since we haven't written B and D's full stories yet they're the easiest for us to edit thankfuly.

>>4426859
They all look gorgeous anon, I think Overalls and Lips on the left look best though.

>>4426859
Beautiful. How did you find an artist to work with and a good one at that? The mere mention of "age gap" is like putting a crosshair between my eyes.

>>4426905
Gonna give this a try this weekend and let you know how it is anon. It sounds fun.
>>4426970
>>4426982
Thanks! Overalls and Pinafore are my personal preference from this group. And we're friends/go to an arts college together. For sure I wouldn't ask just anyone to work on yuri media and especially an age gap one either.

>>4373699
This is getting increasingly esoteric. It's still really just to replace my own deck but I now that I'm finished with the trumps and working on face cards, I keep thinking to myself that the choices of series and characters included would be complete nonsense to anyone who isn't basically a handful of /u/ posters with really varied yuri and yuri-adjacent interests.

I also still have to come up with like 20-30 more pairings or series to use for the numeral/pip cards. It's gonna be interesting trying to figure out how to translate all of those into images of cups/wands/swords/pentacles.

>>4429476
whoa, you're ToWeR? Never would've thought

>>4429506
i can not find it in English.
so i did it myself

>>4429553
It would go in the translation thread, if it were actually yuri and not a brief lesbian scene in a hetshit hentai manga.

Damn, I thought we had a rash of activity but nope just a lost poster

>>4422496
Working on it...

>>4429765
Godlike panelling ngl

>>4429775
Thank you! I don't know how to draw but I've been obsessed with panelling for years.

if i get a 4chan gf or wife ill post my comic (i serious.).

>>4429867
Hello wife. Post comic, wife.

>>4429913
tell me u r sexy woman with bigger boobs and ass. add me on discord and I send u my scripts. I make webcomic on businesswomen making out

why did the mod delete that I hope the mod is sexy enough otherwise i am against this censorship.
I will draw I. N protest. I believe in Yuri and freedom.

>>4429765
It's finished. (chapter 1)
Idk how I could post this. Do I like. Storytime it or. Post it as a single image on catbox or waht.

>>4429983
Also there's like. A male character in 2 pages. So I'd have to skip those if I storytime it here haha.

Am making a Yuri with a fox demon girl Japanese who has a new lover every hundred years but I don't know to make all Japanese any ideas?

Welp, decided to just upload it to imgur. Easy gallery thing going on. I think it's anonymous, if not whoops
https://imgur.com/a/C6D0gSH

I'd appreciate feedback! on the- On the story mainly. Like. I know I'm not an artist. No need to tell me to improve my drawings.

>>4430240
It was enjoyable. I think you overexplain a little bit in places, like you don't need to outright say the fragments give you power if you already have a panel showing that they do. Also is it just... always pretty dark and freezing since a bunch of the sun is gone?

Also unless this was an intentional meme, pic related and visually accurate, I think you should consider renaming the fragments.

>>4430259
I was about to post the exact same thing.
I started getting hungry reading it.

>>4430259
I had no idea these were a thing, fuck.

And while the world is generally colder, something I didn't get to mention in this chapter is that there's still massive chunks of the sun orbiting the planet. It's basically submerged in eternal twilight, with rare occasions when it gets light enough or dark enough for it to emulate day or night, but like you'd see it in the poles.

>>4430265
>I had no idea these were a thing, fuck.
This is an easy fix. All you have to do between now and when you finish writing is casually mention how tasty the sun chips are and give their powers names like Smoky Jalapeno or Sizzling Chili Lime so you can work out a deal with SunChips™ to pay for a professional artist to complete the manga.

>>4430240
Cool, does something happen during solar eclipses or what couldve been if the sun hadnt shattered
>>4429784
>obsessed with panelling for years
You hadn't gained a little skill in drawing at least?

>>4430327
No such thing as eclipses, the planet has no moon! Or, rather, what we would consider a moon is what the consider a sun. So what you could say is that the planet has no star.

And on the panelling: I've been analyzing it for years, I mean, not drawing. Some of my favorite manga are such because of their immaculate use of panels.

>>4430538
Well it's effective. Made it entirely readable despite everything. Do you have text descriptions of the characters' appearances?

>>4430620
Robin: Short, choppy black hair. While not represented in the drawing, she has one big scar around her neck for plot reasons. Eyes are a lightish brown. She wears shitty clothes and a cloak.

Eri: Tall as fuck (about 2 meters) and visibly well built, though not muscular. Blonde, green eyed, and she's always wearing different frilly dresses.

https://www.creators.tapas.io/tapas-x-kickstarter

I'm going to take part in this contest; I'm certain I won't win lol but who wants to band together and create a yuri ezine of our own afterwards?

>>4431330
Not sure we have the numbers for that.

>>4431335
I think even just 3 or 4 people making an ezine would be enough, as long as some people want to publish something.

>>4431330
>Stories about what it means to be a kid
I don't think they're going to accept your Itou Hachi origin story work.

>>4431339
>Itou Hachi
?
I thought the theme was Daydreaming?

>>4431345
>Theme
>Daydreaming (Inspiration: Stories about Make Believe and exploring what it means to be a kid.)

It's a joke but they do seem to expect it to be about kids.

>>4431354
What was the joke?
>they do seem to expect it to be about kids.
What they expect is not what they're going to get from me. 10 page explicit milf x milf non stop sex.

>>4431330
>Stories about Make Believe and exploring what it means to be a kid
How the fuck should I know, I'm 38

Would you guys read a story about two lesbians in which one is trapped in an arranged engagement with a man in the beginning, but the narrative makes it explicitly clear that the arrangement is purely formal and there has never been any kind of physical contact, and the girl is a confirmed lesbian? Also, the fiance turns out to be a villain and is killed by the lesbian gf at the end. Is the presence of a temporary, nominal male fiance who dies at the end a dealbreaker for /u/? When I imagine my target audience it's you onee-samas so I need to know. Personally I cannot stand pre-existing comphet relationships in my yuri but in this case it's plot critical and I am making it unambiguously clear that the main character is a lesbian virgin but not for long who wants out of the engagement

>>4431685
>arranged engagement with a man in the beginning

Stopped reading there, no I wouldn't. There's no reason for men to exist, make it an arranged marriage with two women and maybe I'll give a fuck.

>>4431709
You make a compelling argument sis

>>4431685
Pretty sure I've watched or read something like this before, sis.

>>4431685
This is just Yuri Espoir...

>>4430240
Decided to start work on ch2. Will I finish it? Whomsth knowesth

>>4431685
Hard sell, depends how much contact they'd have. The idea of a wedding ceremony alone is already enough to make me drop. The man being a villain makes me think that at some point he'll have the upper hand against the MC whom he's engaged with, yuck. It's honestly better if they were on good terms in a sibling kind of way and BOTH want out of the engagement.

>>4431872
It's time to move to a drawing program with layers to make things easier sis.

>>4431936
>It's time to move to a drawing program with layers to make things easier sis.
Believe me that wouldn't change much. ||I lied I'm not using mspaint I'm using photoshop||

>>4431941
>double bars for spoilers
Discord has poisoned my mind. I must commit seppukku.

>>4431685
Write the kind of story you want to write and don't think about what some mentally ill schizoid will think about it. Nothing you do will ever please /u/

>>4432034
>woah the board with an explicit rule about not posting guys doesn't like stories with male characters in them
>how totally unexpected and schizo

As I was saying

>>4431685
i see this and made this.

>>4432237
>>4432238
Good start anon, more cute squareheads next time

>>4432253
what is squarehead? /u/ likes omegaverse?

>>4432278
>/u/ likes omegaverse?
No. Most of it is futa garbage.

>>4432294
ok ill make omega verse then

Was binge reading buncha oneshots, then stumbled to a doujin with a niche premise similar to a work I never finished, matter of fact it has the same execution, same set up, same punchline, literally flow for flow, word for word, bar for bar (though it's originally in japanese and about different fandom).

I wish I never stop drawing.

>>4435855
The next time you see another similar work to your abandoned projects and ideas you will say that again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again

>>4404631
It will be 16 pages with quality like this, so it gonna take a while.

>>4436147
Cute!

>>4432237
>>4432238
Pure SOVL I say

>>4431872
Progressing... slowly. Busy with a lot of shit.

>>4432238
if 4 people like this i am happy to continue

>>4437469
do you like it?

>>4437835
would be nice to make something people like. i dont have friends

>>4438161
>would be nice to make something people like
if that's your reason then you probably shouldn't bother, you'd drop it soon enough anyway
make something that you like yourself instead, so it won't matter whether there's friends or randos to motivate you

>>4438176
If i do it for myself, I don't need to post it, but if someone likes it, I can share it? i cant put into words but thats my sentiment.

>>4438194
>if someone likes it, I can share it
very common fallacy, it would be one thing if you did it for money because you'd at least be left with something tangible later, but pandering to others for praise is a half-assed motivation to do something, you'll burn out long before you've accomplished anything meaningful
>If i do it for myself, I don't need to post it
this is how you get somewhere, if the work itself is the reward then you'll get free motivation from it, posting it will be just a bonus and it's also much more likely that the result will be heartfelt and therefore worthwhile, for both yourself and others
>i cant put into words but thats my sentiment
i'll put it into words for you: the real reason why you're so focused on "sharing" is the illusion of instant gratification: you know that creating something that you really like would be long and hard, but if it's someone else then you feel like you can get away with low effort endeavors because there's gotta be someone out there who likes even those, right? so you can cheaply derive pleasure from their positive reactions instead
but that won't pay off, you'll soon realize that you're wasting valuable time chasing a shallow goal and just quit, with nothing valuable to show for it

>>4438220
NTA but this reads like a lot of projection.
>pandering to others for praise is a half-assed motivation to do something, you'll burn out long before you've accomplished anything meaningful
Personal fulfilment is pretty sounding but a functionally poor motivator. There's a reason the best way to learn a language is to live in a place that speaks it, or that quitting an addiction is much more successful when done in a group setting: external motivation is a continuous ongoing reinforcement. Humans are social creatures, unless you have some very specific personality disorder, input from others is baked into your psyche.
> the real reason why you're so focused on "sharing" is the illusion of instant gratification: you know that creating something that you really like would be long and hard
This is wrong two-fold. First, that somehow sharing being a priority has anything to do with instant gratification; someone who spends a decade trying to get a novel published because they want so desperately to share that story with the world is obviously not concerned with instant gratification. Second, that "something that you really like" must require some minimum threshold of investment and difficulty. You sound miserable. You've never done something quickly, casually and spontaneously that you really enjoyed?
>if it's someone else then you feel like you can get away with low effort endeavors because there's gotta be someone out there who likes even those, right? so you can cheaply derive pleasure from their positive reactions instead
Lots of people put way more effort into things for other people than they do for themselves. I have folders full of doodles and half-thrown together drawings that never went anywhere, or half-written fanfic scenes put down because I had an idea in my head I wanted to see on paper. But If I put a fic on Ao3 or post a drawing online I'm gonna at least make sure the drawing is complete and decent looking or the fic is readable.

>>4438220
>long and hard
No, because that would be het.

>>4438282
NTA but you sound like you're just weak to peer pressure, you talk about being desperate to share things, but that's just being desperate for validation, which means you couldn't get that from your work alone.
I'd recommend you quit what you're doing and look for something you can actually be passionate about, that's how you get real fulfillment regardless of whether random people approve things for you.
Invest your time wisely, you only get to live once.

Shieet, Shuukura is getting anime, might revive myself and invest early in a fanwork once the anime design sheet come out.

>>4368092 (OP)
>>4368092 (OP)
I write a yuri historical fiction about two girls conquering the steppes, I'm quite proud of it! https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/74397/the-winds-of-tepr

>>4438282
Writing isn't about learning or quitting an addiction, which are hard things to do because they offer little reward short-term.
Writing should be fulfilling on its own. When I get into an inspired frenzy and write 9k words in a day I feel like I had the best sex of my life by the end of it.
Even on normal days writing around 500 to 1k words is pretty rewarding.

>>4438943
idk if you really are the author or if you just sharing that to draw attention to it but either way, based as fuck

How do people write comedy?

>>4439298
I am the author! (and I am also sharing to draw attention to it haha)

>>4438943
>>4439308
Seconding the basedness. The designs are awesome.

>>4439334
Thanks! I am kind of having trouble reaching my target audience, it's already been 2 years I'm writing it and I barely get any comments, even though I got a couple great reviews... so yeah I felt like why not trying to share it on my favorite women lover image board!

>>4439451
Honestly, I haven't read any of it. 101 chapters is kind of daunting, but I might look at it further in the future.
With so much content out there, I think getting a few comments and some great reviews is a good showing.

>>4439304
idk about others but I just write wahtever I personally find humorous and maybe it resonates maybe it doesn't.

>>4438943
Just from a brief glance, I can already tell that you're part of the "said is dead" crowd, and I don't think I can sit through 101 chapters of revolving words "yelled" or "states" or "frowns," etc. Also, I detest present tense, the action never feels like it has any weight to it at all. Sorry.

>>4439451
If I remember right, your tagging was all over the place when you were focusing on ScribbleHub. I'm not repeating this topic. Scribblehut/Royal Road are very low effort low concept power fantasy-oriented sites, but the mere fact that you got some sort of following for such a large story is commendable. If you want to go for more audience engagement, you might try porting this story or making a new one in forums like Sufficient Velocity (very queer friendly as a plus, very american politics discourse poisoned as a minus) or Questionable Questing (will mostly consume smut).

>>4439458
That's okay, I know every story is not for everyone and there are triggering things in every writing style! Thanks for the reply though!

>>4439459
Thanks for the recommendation!! I'll try and port the stories to these websites today!!!

>>4439462
Just don't flood them with 20+ chapters at once, and it should be alright. You might even treat it as a soft reboot/chance to polish your early writing. If you want to do something new directly involving audience participation, you can check out the forums' Quest section.

>>4426859
They look great anon, I really like A and C especially.
>>4438943
Holy shit it's you, I checked this out since last time you mentioned it here and absolutely adore it.
I normally just lurk these threads but I feel like I should tell you: thank you so much for writing it and updating so frequently. Horohan bestgirl

>>4439466
Do you recommend that I post it on both websites? They look really similar so I was wondering if it was not the same userbase? I started posting on Sufficient Velocity, maybe I should wait and see how it goes before posting it on the other? (posting my story on a forum is very unintuitive for me and it took me ages to understand how it works haha)

>>4439503
Omggg thank you so much for liking it!! Horohan is also one of my favorites! Do you also have a favorite scene??

>>4439528
SV and QQ are more or less cousins. SV branched out from SpaceBattles after some mod drama, and QQ was born after a bunch of users got kicked from both of them for NSFW content or overall misbehavior. Some of SV users still treats QQ as a bunch of degenerate pervs but relationship between sites is normalised enought they shouldn't give you shit for posting on both of them. But if you aren't going full NSFW route, there's really no reason to use QQ.

>>4439451
>I felt like why not trying to share it on my favorite women lover image board!
>favorite women lover image board!
Please. You only ever come here to do this same thing.

>>4439530
Ahh ok thanks for the info! I'll refrain from posting there then because my story isn't NSFW.

>>4439534
How rude, you would chat with me a lot if you went to the virgin's empire threads! Is it my fault for not posting my story every day?

>>4439460
>there are triggering things in every writing style
Not really, if you don't write like a third-grader. Go read some real books.

>>4439555
Thanks for sharing your perspective. Best of luck with your own reading and writing!

>>4438943
It looks good, I might read a bit later.

>>4439460
>>4439536
>>4439568
Can you drop the obvious PR speech?
It's just detracting from your work and making you look like a shameless shill.

This dude literally attacks literally anyone who posts something here. Just ignore him.

>>4439809
Even this is astepup.

>>4439555
Are you stupid, anon? Present tense is a perfectly acceptable stylistic choice. In fact, it's become trendy in YA and crossover/NA fiction. Not highbrow enough for you? There are loads of great novels written in (or partially written in) present tense that have won Pulitzers or other major literary awards ("The Road," "A Visit From the Goon Squad," "Salvage the Bones" to name just a few). I haven't read anon's comic/novel/whatever because I don't give a fuck about historical fiction, so maybe anon's writing is total ass, I don't know. But you sound like a fucking retard for shitting on anon's writing simply because anon chose to write in present tense. At least anon is out here doing their part to fulfill Yuri Manifest Destiny by writing about cute lesbians. Read moar.

So much yuri in my head
So little time to make it real

>>4440395
Make the time anon!
That yuri won't exist unless you make it, it would be a waste not to.

Sun chip anon hurry

>>4440787
>sun chip
you telling me theres food brand yuri?

>>4441127
>>4430240

>>4442395
... I forgot to write a reply. Smart me.
Anyways I actually moved and I've spent the last week or so without internet or the ability to use my PC, and the preparations before that.
Still, glad to know you liked it!

Got a new desk which should make it easier to draw but now that I can use my whole arm instead of only my wrist my elbows hurt...

>>4443266
fight on mspaintanon

>>4443433
he lied he uses photoshop

>>4443448
>he

>>4432237
>>4432238
>>4437469
I like it

Could've done a page in the time it took me to make this shit but graphic design is my passion

/u/ I need help. I want to draw a webcomic manga and recently I've finally worked out enough of the details and have improved my art enough that I think I can start pushing out chapters. But the moment I put my pen to my tablet I had a horrible realization that a lot of my antagonists are men and I would have to draw men and the idea of sitting down at the computer spending literal hours drawing shitty ugly men is absolutely repulsive to me

is there a way around this that isn't "all the antagonists are also women" or am I just going to have to switch to writing a VN or novel or something

>>4444390
Based issue to have, but I'm sorry anon you're gonna have to draw the moids if you want to tell your story without gimping it.

>>4444390
idk what sort of story it is but you must take the bullet sis, for the sake of yuri

>>4444390
you're making fiction anon, there's no rule that compels you to do anything you don't want to, and i can't think of any scenario where using women instead wouldn't be an improvement
nobody who's actually looking for yuri is going to miss "shitty ugly men", and so aren't you

>>4438943
I've been enjoying it a lot. Love the main girls. Keep up the good work!

>>4444390
>"all the antagonists are also women"
I'm with other anon. I don't see how this isn't just an immediate improvement.

>>4444390
Devil's advocated: draw a woman with no boobs and say it's a man

'bout 1/3 of the way through! yay.

>>4444390
>I had a horrible realization that a lot of my antagonists are men
now that you've realized the error of your ways, it's time to use your creativity to fix it

>>4439451
This is so sweet and cute, anon! I'm only on chapter 8 and I really like how you write the girls. As the other anons said, keep up the great work and don't pay attention to the attention seeker
I saw the content warnings and really hope nothing bad happens to them, anon...

>>4439528
>favourite scene??
So far it's the Horohan tiger scene, she's my wife I love her and the scene is so good. I really like Naci in general too, she's honestly quite refreshing as a protagonist, it makes the main ship interesting from both sides instead of just one. She's also really hot. Thanks for that.
>>4445381
This scene was so damn cute, I love them so much
>>4444390
You can just make everyone female with no explanation. Or make them feminine looking twinks who just look like flat girls...
Or do like the author of Claymore and come up with an in-universe lore reason why the majority of the focus characters should be female. In Claymore, the reason is that women can withstand the youma transformation better, so the evil organisation just only produces female claymores (warriors). It's actually made into an important plot point that gets some elaboration later, but of course we all know that the real reason is because the author wanted to draw mostly women.

Almost hit page 11. Better make a new thread.

>>4444530
This is the worst advice. We got too many traps as is. "Draw a woman call it a man" is one of the most annoying tropes that hurts yuri all the time.

>>4444390
>men
What's wrong with you?

>>4446790
new thread