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Anonymous No.4386878 [Report] >>4386879
Bocchi the Rock!
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>>4386878 (OP)
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Anonymous No.4388657 [Report] >>4388691 >>4396148 >>4396150 >>4414744
Why is there so much art with Kira and Bocchi as well as Ryo? I mean she initially said she liked Ryo(but in a lesbian way?) then she had the most interactions with Bocchi?
Anonymous No.4388691 [Report] >>4396284
>>4388657
Because a lot of people haven't read the manga
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Bokita the greatest, papá!
Anonymous No.4396148 [Report] >>4396294
>>4388657
>Kira
Does that mean that Bocchi is L?
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>>4388657
People like to ship the whole band together
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>>4388691
is the manga BoKita or RyoKita?
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>>4396148
She's book dumb, so no.
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>>4396284
If anything it's Nijiryo, so Bokita sort of wins out by association.
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Are sisters allowed to do this?
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>>4406098
It's what sisters are for.
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Anonymous No.4409999 [Report] >>4410012 >>4410052 >>4410194 >>4410205
Who's currently ahead in the bocchibowl?
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>>4409999
Yoyoko
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>>4409999
There's been zero romantic development with any character so nobody.
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>>4409999
1. That new baseball gyaru who just got introduced
2. Ame
3. Seika
4. Sasasa
5. Kita
Yoyoko is currently out of the running because she's trying to fuck Nijika. Hiroi is currently out of the running because Bocchi's mom is trying to fuck her. Nijika and Ryo are continuing their happy married life.
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>>4409999
Katou-san from WataMote
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>>4388657
bokita is cute and there doesn't need to be a deeper reason, really
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Anonymous No.4419903 [Report] >>4421938
>>4419792
She's a better wife for Bocchi than that kita whore. I always admire young mature girl and useless adult woman pairings. Both Bocchi and Kikuri are helplessly introvert, but Bocchi is the more mature one of the two, she doesn't need alcohol to cope with the pain. Sextroverts like kita could never understand.
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Anonymous No.4421938 [Report] >>4422022 >>4422170
>>4419903
Am I missing something from the manga? Kikuri seems more extroverted than anything.
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>>4421938
>Kikuri seems more extroverted than anything.
she can't face the world without being inebriated
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>>4421938
Kikuri basically has Bocchi's personality when she's sober. She became an alcoholic because her anxiety and stage fright were so crippling
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this thread is suffering from a massive lack of boryo
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Anonymous No.4436582 [Report] >>4436604 >>4437008
Is big tits x flat loli the best pairing in all of yuri?
Anonymous No.4436604 [Report] >>4436667
>>4436582
No, that would be big tits x big tits.
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>>4436604
Hiroi...
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>>4436582
It's a girl with the biggest tits being worshipped as a goddess like she deserves.
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>>4442205
Did you make a mistake?
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>>4442559
Yeah, I thought those were Ikuyo and Ryo and put them in the wrong folder (since filenames are not visible on mobile).
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Note: Kita's kitas aren't actually this big
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https://exhentai.org/g/3434687/501cdb9310/
Interesting BoKita doujin.
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Is that a fucking Bleach reference?
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I already caught up with the anime and the manga. Which band anime scratch the same itch? Is GBC or Bang Dream a good replacement?
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>>4449425
A lot of Bocchi fans liked them, but they're more dramatic than Bocchi if you're just looking for a comedy.
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>>4449453
Thanks, I don't mind drama as long as there are enough slice of life moments.
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Anonymous No.4472107 [Report] >>4472220 >>4472440 >>4472450 >>4473181
BtR anime writer talks about how BtR's adaptation was deliberately desexualized compared to the manga.

https://kai-you.net/article/93374/page/2

Do /u/ think it was degayed too?
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>>4472107
They know that yuri in CGDCT brings in bux, they wouldn't change that.
Anonymous No.4472440 [Report] >>4472457
>>4472107
Now we know why its taking so long to make season two. Kirara and Hamazi cannot be happy about this.
Anonymous No.4472450 [Report] >>4472452 >>4472794
>>4472107
But if they're wokifying it, then they would make it more gay
Anonymous No.4472452 [Report] >>4472794
>>4472450
No they wouldn't; what hetfags who want to feel oppressed like to say say, about how "sexualization is ok if it's gay" or whatever, is bullshit and you know it. An overwhelming number of women who make yuri are some level of "problematic" and would be hurt by these puritanical ideas.
Anonymous No.4472457 [Report] >>4472956
>>4472440
Nothing immediately noticeable will happen; authors rarely rock the boat (they'll even defend hoarders of real-world child porn to maintain a healthy, industry-friendly image) - especially if they feel "indebted" to an adaptation that made them tons of money. But the backlash was large enough that it'll have a silent impact with regards to realizing that audiences don't like puritanical rhetoric.
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The gayer scenes in the manga, like Bocchi fantasizing about being popular with girls and applying for the school talent show because a girl said she'd fall for anyone who's playing in a rock band, were all gone from the anime. The scriptwriter really did say she wanted to get rid of all sexualization of the characters, which is funny because she previously wrote for Tiger & Bunny, the fujo show.

I actually love BtR anime for exploring the characters emotions and relationships more intimately than the manga ever did. However at the same time, she removed everything that made the characters explicitly lesbian because it's too titillating. And that sucks.
Anonymous No.4472797 [Report] >>4472800 >>4472898
>>4472794
If you view eroticism from that perspective you'll inevitably end up dismissing a lot of non-hetero women's tastes, which is ironic since Yoshida talks about how "majorities hurt minorities" (is Hamazi's taste the "majority taste" for women?) At most you can operate around a stereotype of "female eroticism that appeals only to women" which is an over-generalization both ways (ex. I've come across plenty of men who like butch yuri "for women, that scares off men" and women who like cutesy moe yuri "for men, that scares off women" in my long history of posting yuri everywhere)
Anonymous No.4472800 [Report] >>4472801 >>4472898
>>4472797
Just cause you can find some counter examples doesn't deny the general trend. It's like how a lot of women are in fujo spaces because it's women dominated and they can be more open about sexuality without 1000s of men sliding into their DMs.
Anonymous No.4472801 [Report] >>4472968
>>4472800
Not sure how cutesy moe vs butch art is comparable to yaoi. Female yuri fans who like the former are not that rare.
Anonymous No.4472898 [Report] >>4472974 >>4473029
>>4472797
>which is ironic since Yoshida talks about how "majorities hurt minorities" (is Hamazi's taste the "majority taste" for women?)
Yoshida's an early millennial born in the 80s. She spent her youth surrounded with media that very much appealed to straight male tastes more than women and LGBT men. I guess she's not aware modern anime fans are more respectful to diverse themes and non-majority people can express themselves much more freely without being looked down upon these days. That's a gap I noticed between older and younger female weebs.
>I've come across plenty of men who like butch yuri "for women, that scares off men" and women who like cutesy moe yuri "for men, that scares off women" in my long history of posting yuri everywhere
Public d*scord servers have made people more comfortable with expressing themselves and embracing their preferences. Finding likeminded people has become easier than ever. Yoshida grew up when the world was nothing like this unfortunately.

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>It's like how a lot of women are in fujo spaces because it's women dominated
I'm pretty sure they're in fujo spaces because they're into men one way or another. I know more lesbian/bi yuri fans who don't really care much about yaoi than those who do.
>1000s of men sliding into their DMs
What kind of shithole is that? I think most fandom communities nowadays are pretty kind. Tw*tter doesn't count.
Anonymous No.4472956 [Report] >>4473029
>>4472457
They delay is right there- Bocchi the Anime, as is, made a lot of money. They may have hurt the authors feelings with the censorship, but is it the best thing for the author to come out and jump on the director for doing this? Especially in a Japanese cultural context. But it can show up as the Kirara side of the production not exactly rushing to the door to resume working with these people.

The classic case of this is Kiyohiko Azuma, who has NEVER said anything bad about the Azumanga Daioh anime yet clearly disliked the editing choices so much that he has flatly turned down all offers to animate Yotsuba& even though Yotsuba could have been as big as Doremon or Crayon Shin-chan. And the Azudai anime was, and still is, a very high selling anime.

A big point of difference between the Azudai case and the current Bocchi matter is that Azuma's problems with the Azudai adaptation were purely artistic. With this Bocchi case, its not art but cultural politics, something outside art, that is projecting into the scene. Politics that don't even originate in Japan.
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Sakuya Amano, author of Konohana Kitan, came out today on X and related her experience being censored during the making of that anime.
https://x.com/amanosakuya/status/1967978017680134437
Anonymous No.4472968 [Report] >>4472974
>>4472801
Cute shit is cute and I deeply resent whatever nth wave of feminism or queer theory that decided that I have to reject that to be a flaming homosexual woman. There’s enough layers in my personality to appreciate all yuri equally.
Anonymous No.4472974 [Report] >>4473029
>>4472898
I didn't say fujoshi are not into men. I was just giving an example of a community that excludes men through not appealing to them. And it is a safe space for many women. Just like how certain types of yuri appeals more to women coded sexuality and therefor is generally a safer space for women.
>>4472968
No queer of feminist theory tells you that. Go read the actual books instead of absorbing it second-hand through people who dislike it.
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>>4472898
>I know more lesbian/bi yuri fans who don't really care much about yaoi than those who do.
I know plenty who like both myself.
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What is this yuri that so assuredly alienates men? I brought up butch characters because it's the closest thing I can think of, but even in that case, a lot of men online enjoy basically everything and quite a lot of yuri enjoyed hugely by women features exceptionally feminine characters all around. Well, the actual best example of something mainly women are drawn to would be stuff made by authors who found their fame through yaoi and features explicitly yaoi-like dynamics, but my attempts to promote "fujoshi yuri" on here have mostly fallen on deaf ears.

The idea that the majority of queer feminist theory adherents would overwhelmingly support the kind of women who contribute to "Onee-Loli Yuri Anthology", or even the moe teenager "sexualization" of the Bocchi manga, is silly. Japanese liberal feminist Yukari Fujimoto even pointed out on her Twitter that it's very rare to find a western academic willing to accept such works (either in general or with regards to its appeal in LGBT Japanese nerd spaces) and was glad to finally find someone like-minded.
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>Politics that don't even originate in Japan.
Certain people are going to claim this is wrong, but Yoshida straight up admits to being very ideologically inspired by America. But yeah, while Japan as an overall culture might be a different thing, the manga industry is immensely better than the American comics industry at supporting a very wide variety of female authors and fans. Anime is more male-driven on the staff side, but it still knows very well to appeal to women. They don't really need to "learn from America" how to appeal to women more.
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>>4473029
Just cause something is enjoyed by some men doesn't mean it hasn't got a different vibe and community than things explicitly targeted to men. Romance focused yuri that's almost or completely non-sexually will have less male fans, less misogyny and less of the type of predatory men who you'll find in the general anime community.
See the difference between something like Maria-sama vs Netsuzou Trap.
Of course it won't alienate men the same way that yaoi does but pretending there's not a divide is a bit dishonest. And it's also not only about sex, it's also the art style, framing, more focus on women's day to day issues, deeper/less objectified female characters etc.
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So you don't even mean what I assumed but "no predators is when no eroticism" (as if "I'm wholesome" is not a common predator tactic). Netsuzou is mostly a dude thing in Japan but has many female fans in the west, 7menzippo's super graphic yuri porn manga is mostly liked by women (again "fujoshi yuri"), "purity" attracts another type of creepy guy.
Anonymous No.4473181 [Report] >>4473254
>>4472107
Well I read the manga and watched the anime, so I know that the anime is gayer than the manga. The fanservice that was taken out had nothing to do with yuri, but I guess they might get rid of the "Kita and Nijika get annoyed at Bocchi's giant tits" scene in season 3
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>>4473181
I don't remember this in the anime.
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Bocchi is staying at Nijika's house

>Nijika-chan, you got a lot of plushies on your bed huh

>Ah, to be honest, I can't really sleep well without my plushies, just like my sis
>(It's kind of embarrassing to say)

>Is that so...
>I see... since Nijika's mom passed away when she was little...
>...Maybe she was trying to cope with the loneliness using those plushies...

>Alright...
>Emm...! Nijika-chan, I'll be your plushie for today!!

>Eh, are you sure...?
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>The hugging was way more intense than she thought
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>>4472794
I'd say because it is a music driven anime there was no way that it was ever gonna be remotely sexual (let alone homosexual especially now that it's being portrayed as the pro mental health series and raking in cash from the music that keeps dropping)

Tl;Dr normies ruin everything, but I'm glad she got her bag
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>>4473071
>Romance focused yuri that's almost or completely non-sexually will have less male fans
Probably in the early 2010s, women remembered that it's okay to drool at other women and be sexually into them again
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>>4473029
>What is this yuri that so assuredly alienates men?
Anything that actively shit talks them really. A fugue between worlds or banquet with deer crying are good examples. Shit even soft boiled girls would actively piss off troons too
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>>4472794
>Bocchi fantasizing about being popular with girls
Do you mean the light yagami parody panel? That's chapter 58, long after what the anime covered, even after the famous "cosplayer girlfriend" panel (chapter 55)

>applying for the school talent show because a girl said she'd fall for anyone who's playing in a rock band
Not sure about this one, where it was?
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>>4475276
Here: >>4473254
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>>4475279
I mean, what chapter? Iirc anime covered until ch 22 aprox
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>>4475281
It's a pretty early chapter from the school festival arc. It's covered in the anime.
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>>4473254
That joke is adapted in the anime literally 1:1 in episode 10. You're just a retarded schizo.
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