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Thread for yuri discussion of:
>Genshin Impact
>Honkai Impact 3rd
>Honkai Star Rail
>Guns GirlZ
>Zenless Zone Zero

and other applicable miHoYo/Hoyoverse games

https://x.com/MangeDuGruau/status/1915823819714920531

They have interactions

>>4409716
Anni vid had some decent bits of /u/ in it

Cake for me is Guinaifen basically saying she and Sushang gonna bang later

>>4409642
I appreciate that they are their own separate thing instead of part the of the “MC bowl” like some of the more recent agents

I am a bit torn on Vivian

On one hand I like how they clearly separated the proxies and she doesn't care about Wise as she does for Belle, and I have trouble picturing her scenes the hand kiss, the face caress, the valiant protection and subsequent almost death with Wise instead of Belle, he just doesn't fit at all.

On the other Vivian feels kinda shoehorned, for some reason they went out of their way to retroactively integrate her into the story and with other characters, like she always was there in the background, felt super tacked on.
I guess they tried to make her more involved so it won't feel rushed because they only have this one path to work her in, but it kinda threw me off.

Can't wait for Quantum Belle and I hope Vivian won't disappear into nothing in 2.0.

>>4409993
I was going to pull her but then her trailers happened

>>4409998
Same here it was funny how they made Wise brown though.

>>4409998
It’s just going to keep happening
Good thing I dropped ZZZ, got too many Gachas anyway

>>4409993
Vivian is the Castorice of ZZZ.

>>4410058
At least Cas got two Stelle trailers and a no-TB one

My pc's motherboard died on me and it will take a while for a replacement to come, phone can't run star rail either so I am fucked (luckily I grabbed all the rewards and gifts before sending it to repairs).
Anyway aside from my sad rant I just hope we keep getting more kafka + skin

cute

>>4410368
hot desu. Astra's pearl outfit really is top tier.

Took Hoyo almost 5 years but it seems that finally Eula and Rosaria are gonna finally interact with each other.

>>4410273
It's funny how they keep referencing that dance because that's the only meaningful interaction they ever got, and it wasn't even in the story

Vivian whole deal is why the thinking process behind MHY is frustrating, they set her up and make most of her scenes make sense if you picked Belle only to later say 'oh yeah she's into Wise too' like come on commit to something
Anyway, S.Anby story was pretty good and pretty gay other than Twiggy being yandere towards her

>>4411026

>>4411027

>>4411026
>Vivian whole deal is why the thinking process behind MHY is frustrating, they set her up and make most of her scenes make sense if you picked Belle only to later say 'oh yeah she's into Wise too' like come on commit to something
What do you mean by that? Aren't the scenes the same no matter which MC you picked?

Are you ready for the official yuri mechanic, fellow Honkai nee-sans?

>>4411047
I started buying packs again in preparation
The next few patches are insanely packed
Helia -> Coralie -> (CN Anni) P1 character new battlesuit + new Dkey (supposedly) -> Firefly (supposedly)

>>4410869
True, but that one video is spicier than almost every other piece of Nu-Hoyo promo media combined

>>4410869
The clitbait for the dance was actually insane looking back. People were making whole ass ship dynamics and 50k word fics based on a slick promotional trailer and the end result was just nothing from hoyo.

>>4411026
But Vivian actually points out that she actually cares about Belle, not Wise, because Belle was the one who "saved her" and not the "other phaeton"

>>4411031
Yes, they are the exact same.

>>4411102
I mean that was as far as they can go in popular game it was still pretty crazy

>>4411476
>They couldn't write any kind of meaningful interaction or relationship between Acheron and black swan because the game is popular
The saddest thing is that you probably believe that

>>4411047
Just found out that Helia and Coralie's outfit have stories that complete each other and it end with Helia feeding Coralie waffles

>>4411509

I mean others do more but hoyo are cowards when it comes to their mainstream games

>>4411542
They know what they are doing with all the shipping lately

>>4409716
So there interactions is basically KafStel

>>4409608 (OP)
It's crazy how little we actually got out of these two. The trailers made me believe we'd get Firefly x Stelle level of yuri. We barely got anything between them

>>4410070
At least Vivian actually likes Belle. Castorice and Stelle had no chemistry. She was with Stelle pretty much solely for promotional reasons. I kinda feel cheated based on what the trailers showed.

>>4411101
I feel like Vivian and Belle might have that beat. Sure you could say she has the same scene with Wise, but damn did they make Vivian's feelings very clear for Belle

>>4411552
At least we have Jeht x Lumine. Unfortunately Jeht was too gay too become playable. The Aether fans would've lost their minds.

>>4411728
Okay hold on. Didnt the Lumine-specific lines get altered before the beta ended or something?

Did they actually make it to Live or no? I never finished the desert world quests

>>4411736
She's super gay for Lumine. So one even made all the scene differences.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/1b2h7ox/players_always_question_why_jeht_x_lumine_exists/

It's also stated that Jeht likes to hang around the ladies in the tribe. Unfortunately the only thing that was removed from the beta was the fact that Jeht gives Lumine a kiss on the ear.

>>4411726
>I feel like Vivian and Belle might have that beat.
I don't remember any Belle/Vivian scene or promo that's even spicy at all, let alone compared to that dance sequence.
There is some cute stuff and Vivian is very into Belle, but 'spicy'? Not at all.
Though given her design and demeanour, its actually kinda criminal Vivian doesn't have a dance scene with Belle. Wuwa did that right with Carlotta.

>>4411834
WuWa beats Hoyo in every department in terms of yuri. That dance scene is honestly so forgettable in grand scheme of things. It doesn't happen in story and is treated as an afterthought. They don't even really interact much after that in the main story. They kind of remind me of Kafka and Himeko where it's a very weak ship that people just attach themselves to. Not saying that's a bad thing, rather it just shows how bad Hoyo is at writing yuri that the fans have to will something into existence out of nothing. It's similar to how The Herta and Ruan Mei were built up in trailers yet nothing happened in game. Or how Castorice and Stelle were built up in trailers and again nothing came about any of that in any meaningful way.

>>4411542
I like how each outfit description only has the line that each of them say, but the conversation flows perfectly

Coralie : "Points deducted for being too serious and not understanding the prefect's sense of humor. Points deducted for being too honest and not rebuking the prefect's joke. Points deducted for spacing out and possibly behaving perfunctorily."
Helia : "Humor, not found; jokes, no punchline; as for the last accusation... me sitting here obediently listening to your lecture can't really be called 'perfunctory,' can it?"
"An inspector should deduct points according to rules rather than personal preference... well, let's save the chat for after class—"
Coralie : "If you have any complaints, blame the school regulations. Instead of asking me for an explanation... Oh, there goes the school bell. Points deducted for being lat— Mmph!"
"... You've got guts, who taught you to bribe the prefect with waffles? Never mind, I'll let it slide once. There won't be a second time."
Helia : "! ...You can really pass with just wafers? And the way you eat is kind of like a cute little... uh, I mean, if you like them, would you like to go to the shop together next time?"

>>4411755
Genshin could have been so peak if they didnt pander to males self inserts

>>4411869
They just need to bring back Jeht. With enough people wanting her back maybe they will.

How's Cipher? Can I finally play Acheron(only E0S1) without Fagqiu?

>>4412187
Yeah, but she needs her lightcone or she doesn’t generate stacks.
Speaking from a meta perspective, if you already have 2 other invested teams (FF, Herta, Aglaea, Cas, etc.) it probably isn’t worth getting an E0S1 to extend Acheron’s shelf life by a few months because she’s already showing her age compared to recent DPS.
If you have a 3.x DPS or are interested in Saber or the new M7 it’s a much better choice to invest vertically or horizontally in those teams than in Acheron, because Cipher is still worse than harmonies so when your Acheron retires Cipher will go with her most likely.
I have a 10 cost FF team and a 6 cost Herta team so despite wanting a JQ alternative ever since JQ’s beta, it’ll just be a bad investment for me when I already have those 2 teams and am planning on grabbing M7 and Cyrene when they release in 4-6 months. Releasing a JQ alternative a whole 9 months later is just too little too late.

Mavuika is one of the worst written characters for reasons many people have stated before. She is flat, 2d, boring and hideous. Just for a thought experiment, we will compare her to diluc.
diluc:
· has lore that actually affects him. (Crepus’s death still continues to weigh on him while mavuika couldn’t give two damns about that family of hers.)
· has lore that was ACTUALLY sad with actual depth? (Once again, he WITNESSED his dad die, had to euthanize him himself, watching the life fly out of him, not to mention kaeya’s lateness to the scene and finding out his brother is a SPY while mavuika just.. left her senpai. And they lived fine, and it wasn’t even that sad.)
· His outfit makes actual sense and has style. (A rich German dude living in a cold, semi-medieval area would wear this. It would not discomfort him either. Mavuika is wearing a skin-tight, sweaty modern leather jumpsuit in hot aztec Mexico.)
· he didn’t just go “with the power of friendship, w-we will defeat the evil baddies!”

>>4412513
Why are you glazing some dude on the yuri board lol, Mavuika low diffs anyone on the male cast with girl power alone.

>>4412513
she is genshin feixao

>>4412525
>>4412527
he has human-like woes and troubles. Mavuika was painted as “oh no! She works hard in her free time! Sigh, she’s so admirable and perfect!” Diluc has an economy and a business to worry about.
· he is flawed. He has a strained relationship with his brother, has no family, has barely any friends or companionship aside from his maids as far as we know. He’s also personally flawed in that he is snappy and cold. Mavuika was presented as a generally perfect, faintly brave and definitely very heroic and important!
· he wasn’t blindly admired by everyone. Quite the opposite where some don’t like him that much. Mavuika did nothing but be “kind and perfect” and the whole nation drools.
· He wasn’t carried by traveler, nor did he ask to be. Dude did his own thing and worked for it.
· he has interesting relations to other characters that aren’t just “we need to work together!” (Ex: complicated relationship to his brother and gripes with the knights)
· didnt have a happy ending. He had things go wrong for him while everything went smooth and perfect for mavuika. She was supposed to die, but “oh what a coincidence! Oh well, guess I’ll just live happily ever after!”
· actually got off his butt and did stuff despite knowing he can die.
· shown, not told. We see his strength and determination. We were told “oh mavuika was so strong she just won archon.”

trashvuika wasn’t good for anything besides meta. Compare her to the other archons who had unique and interesting lore, who are actually things befitting archons (such as the human side of focalors, biological archons) and wasn’t a “super awesome totally cool amazing really strong human” who just won it.

>>4412513
She's boring but she is by no means hideous. Her design is so much better than the bland Himeko look in Star Rail to me.

Speaking of >>4409608 (OP) did this ship go anywhere? I saw a lot of talk about it after the trailer but since the story came out no one has said a word about them. I was under the impression she was the next Firefly. I guess the ship was underwhelming

>>4412528
My favorite scene with Mavuika was from the Ifa event. Seeing her be a terrible actor and her funny moment with Xilonen really humanized her and made her be a bit more relatable. She is definitely my least favorite archon.
1) Nahida
2) Venti
3) Zhongli
4) Ei
5) Mavuika

>>4412534
>hsr
>ships getting anywhere
roflmao

>>4412540
What about Furina?

The real problem with Mavuika is they put half her arc outside the game in promo material

>>4412573
Furina isn't an archon. Her whole story quest is literally about her hating the title and wanting to be her own person in life.

>>4412586
And the archon quest is about how the prophecy recognizes her as the archon

>>4412582
>>4412528
>>4412513
Mavuika's biggest issue is the fact that she doesn't have much connection to what her nation stands for. Venti is always about being his own person and living his life his own way. He's the ultimate example of the freedom Mondstadt believes in. Same with Zhongli and Liyue's beliefs on contracts or Sumeru and Nahida's beliefs on Wisdom. The Archon is supposed to represent what the people of that nation hold dear. The reason Ei's story has such a disconnect with some people during her AQ was because the game didn't really do that well in connecting her views of Eternity to Inazuman people. It wasn't until after the AQ where we slowly begin to relate with Ei and see more of the culture of Inazuma where we can get a better understanding of how the people view Eternity. This gives Ei a new view of what Eternity means to her. Fontaine holds justice to a high esteem, and we even see Focalors sacrifice herself to bring justice to her people.

With Mavuika there's really nothing about her because there's nothing about Natlan. Natlan is at war with the Abyss, but so is the rest of Teyvat. Natlan doesn't really bring much so their archon doesn't bring much. I also feel that making their archons human could've helped her, since she could question if she could live up to past archons expectations.

Personally I would've committed to making Natlan the nation of war and had Mavuika be a battle loving archon that fought the Abyss at the expense of her people under the belief that the ends justified the means. Over the course of the story make her realize what her war is doing to her and her people and have her change for the better.

The Archon embodies the nation. If the nation has no identity all that means is the archon won't either. Mavuika not being engaging is more on Hoyo not knowing what to do with her, because they didn't know what to do with Natlan. Capitano stealing so much of the spotlight didn't help Mavuika either.

>>4412588
Her story quest is her saying she isn't and not wanting to be treated as such. Also the whole point of the quest was to trick Celestia

>>4411728
>>4411993
Nod-Krai filler arc sounds like the perfect opportunity to make popular NPCs like her playable.

>>4412513
>we will compare her to diluc.
Why is a m*le the baseline of comparison, what is wrong with you

>>4412613
Seeing Jeht again in Nod-Krai would be pretty cool. Hoyo needs to bring back one of the gayest characters they've ever made already.

>>4412594
It's pretty obvious that Naltan got rewritten and it happened probably quite late into it's dev cycle. No wonder the end product has none of the vibes of the Travail trailer because I guess Da Wei thought the OG vision wasn't gonna sell and they had to hastily re-assemble the story.

>>4412617
All they had to do was make Mavuika into Dehya on crack and maybe mix in some Shenhe in. It was just that easy but they fucked it up somehow!

>>4412705
I bet Mavuika was a bit meaner and more bloodthirsty. Ever since the feedback from Inazuma Hoyo tends to no longer make ally characters be evil towards the MC. Even characters like Jade, which some people see has somewhat evil, isn't really antagonistic towards Stelle. These characters, in Hoyo's mind, don't sale well or end up telling good stories. That's probably why Mavuika is an overly nice character.

>>4412729
The funny thing is that this is the one thing everybody liked about pre-2.5 Ei. The main issues were that she faced no consequences for the actions and that the AQ was a rushed mess that crashed and burned.

Will you roll for her?
https://twitter.com/honkaistarrail/status/1918660570972037239

Be kind of hilarious if the pity for her banner was 300 like FGO's

>>4413079
Maybe. I already have enough Artoria back when I played FGO. I can't see how getting tricked into pulling for her again in another game will mean much. I can see her being huge in Japan though. I've never been a Fate fan if I'm being honest.

>>4413079
Yes, then I'll probably quit HSR and only keep with Genshin.

Apparently the chef is gay for Furina

So that's nice.

>>4414218
It's been a while since we had an angry lesbo.

>>4414218
proof?

>>4414238
https://twitter.com/luluraemi/status/1919235594288336952

Cyrene supposedly has direct anti-synergy with Phainon’s kit
I’m praying she’s the same in the story and isn’t paired up with him

>>4414689
>whorysia alt
eeeww

>>4414693
>eeeww
More like hell yeah
Imagine hating someone with as much yuri potential as Elysia

>>4414689
From what I've seen in the leaks the game might end up shipping them. I'm hoping the leaks for the story are wrong.

>>4414701
Same. It’d hurt her sales immensely so it’s quite the nonsensical decision if they go through with it.
To top that off most Phainon fans are shipping him with Mydei (to the point where "Phainon -Mydei" on boorus cuts the results by more than half) so they have much more to lose than to gain by fucking Cyrene over like this.
I’m personally not expecting any proper yuri for Cyrene personally, we’ll get Stelle stuff probably if the trailers are any indication.

>>4414705
Right now I'm waiting for March to return. March getting a new 5 star will probably make the Starch ship explode with fanart. It feels like forever since we've seen March. She's really missed, since this new story isn't doing it for many people.

>>4414738
Just 3 more patches and she’ll be here…

Speaking of fanart, we should get a good bit if the FF skin is real

Let's see if the new Mond AQ gives us some fresh yuri.

>>4414769
Jean x Lisa was one of the OG ships. Here's hoping we get more of them.

>>4414769
I'm waiting on you guys to tell me there's yuri in a patch before I jump back into the game

>>4415270
She looks so weird without the mask on. It makes me realize she really just an animal they gave big boobs too. It also makes me question more parts of her anatomy than I want to.

>>4415270
I dont like furry stuff but these two are just too cute together when they interact

>>4415270
You think Burnice coughs furballs afterwards?

When the HECK are they adding Fu Hua to HSR, at least as an NPC? wtf are they doing

>>4415443
maybe in the next next china arc, they always return to that shithole.

>>4410058
No really. Castorice doesn't like Stelle while Vivian is a simp for Belle. I wish there was something there with Castorice and Belle because damn does the game like to promote that there is
https://x.com/gxf5lqkf/status/1911002371276358123

Part 2's Chapter 8 was insanely gay and a nice conclusion to the current arc.
>Helia and Coralie exchanging messages in Coralie's notebook to understand each other better
>Helia and Coralie from the doomed timeline getting their happy ending
>Helia's Astral Ring activating in Coralie's embrace
I love yuri

>>4415631
Absolutely loved it

>>4415718

At least hi3 still delivers some good yuri now and then

>>4415631
>>4415718
>>4415719
I need to catch up. Solid yuri developments, plus Helia's new battlesuit looks like the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life.

>>4415631
So the moral of the story is the more successful a Hoyo franchise is the less they'll focus solely on yuri and have to find subtle ways to showcase yuri (NPCs like Jeht). The less successful the higher the chance Hiyo will go all in with the yuri.

>>4415794
I think it's less a matter of success, and more intention. 3rd's been yuri-centric since day 1 (as were the prior games too), but Hoyo weren't nearly as big when they put those games out. Genshin and Star Rail, they were pushed hard for mass-market appeal, thus them being much more subtle about Hoyo's long-standing preference, which is often seen as a much more niche, even counter-intuitive, market.

>>4415802
Not like they didn't try to "fix" HI3rd, it just didn't work.
Typical case of some important guy forcing things without knowing anything about the game's playerbase and/or issues. Part 2 was never going to make it big, neither would be the SR collab. Game is the most new player unfriendly game of its age I know. By a landslide.

>>4415805
I mean, if you're talking about Part 2 launch, it still had Songlema who's far gayer than most of everything in the other hoyo game

>>4415808
Thelema, almost entierly paralyzed, making sure that she can still please her girl
What a woman she is

>>4415805
>>4415808
The main thing that sucks is the expies go to HSR and are shipped with a guy by some of the fanbase

>>4415805
APHO ruined any and all good will HI3 built up.

I didnt even finish Part 1's story partially because of it. We really had something special, with good gameplay (for its time), proper 3d graphics, and amazing trailers/cinmematics, we could call "our own" and they fucked it all up.

>>4415239
There's new Eulamber and Rosabarb at least. Hoyo likes pairing their glaciers with tiny rays of sunshine.

>>4416154
no noelle stuff? that sucks

>>4415802
China also got a lot more strict about showing gay stuff in media between HI3rd launching and Genshin launching.

>>4416154
Ngl I'm kinda tired of the Eula x Amber ship. Amber will never not be popular and pairing her up with a boring character like Eula won't help her. People keep saying they miss Mondstadt but all I'm reminded of is how boring many of them are. Klee, Venti, Jean, Lisa, Mona, Kaeya, and Fischl are the only interesting characters from there. Seriously what is Eula's character?

>>4416342
Never be popular*

>>4416342
Not pairing Eula and Rosaria together has been a generational fumble by Hoyo. They'd have a unique vibe to the average tall woman yuri of Genshin and give both some much needed development.

>>4416677
Hoyo has a major issue when it comes to developing characters. Sometimes they have stories where they just don't really bother fully developing someone. Take Lighter or Burnice as examples. Remove the yuri ship from Burnice she's just a quirky pyromaniac. HSR might be shit at telling a story but it's probably the best Hoyo game at developing their characters. Well as long as your name isn't Jingliu, Lingsha, or Sparkle.

>>4416755
They're just having an in depth therapy session

>>4416745
Jingliu has the same endgame importance vibe that Acheron has. We are far from seeing the last of her and Sparkle for that matter, I'd replace Lingsha with Feixiao i I were you.

>>4417038
Evil and intimidating fugquaza?

>>4417084
Hanabi is supposedly getting an alt version when we go to Edo Star in 4.x, and JL/Ach are both appearing in the 3.4 myriad celestia so both are 100% getting more content further on

>>4417091
It's gonna be hilarious if Edo ends up being the opposite of Inazuma and is considered by the fandom as peak writing.

>>4417084
Feixiao has a lot of development and character so switching them makes no sense. Jingliu hasn't mattered for over a year.

>>4417091
>>4417084
>>4416745
The question is does anyone care? All of these characters were incredibly boring and added nothing to the game. I'd argue you could take Jingliu and Sparkle out of the game and nothing storywise until now would change. Same with Acheron. Star Rail's biggest issue is that it has no overarching plot. Saying Jingliu will be important in the endgame for a game with no end goal is a strange thing to say. The game fucked up big time by not giving the Express an actual goal besides traveling. It makes the stories they're involved in feel like filler, since they never have any real stakes to them. Star Rail needs an actual overarching plot sooner rather than later. I'm tired of thinking "why are we here" for every new planet we go to.

>>4417084
What's endgame important? Nothing about Jingliu shows she's of any importance outside Luofu

>>4417093
As long as HSR keeps up the yapping story telling it won't be peak

>>4417084
jingliu is a space china character so 100% we're seeing her again in the story sometime.

>>4417163
Well, it’s not just that

It’s the fact that she got sent to prison on another ship we haven’t visited

>>4417135
>no overarching plot
Isn't the overarching plot all about preventing the cosmos-ending Nanook bad end? It's mentioned and alluded to so often, and Stelle's original faction is literally revolving around this.

>>4417135
Not China is basically that.
That said, this year's region is an absolute disaster because it really has NOTHING to do with anything outside. At least so far. Maybe one day it has, but it's too late. Way too late.

>>4417232
That's not really an overarching plot when each many arc doesn't really allude to that story

>>4417163
Not sure what you're trying to say here. Every character eventually returns

>>4417259
I will never not be mad that the person that literally got us to this planet doesn't even follow us in.

>>4417512
Chinkland had Phantyllia, Penacony’s most future-relevant part was introducing the different factions (SH continuation with FF, Acheron, IPC expanded beyond Topaz, Rangers, etc.), and Amphoreus will be plot relevant via Irontomb.

>>4417532
What plot though? As of right now there's no plot Stelle is looking to achieve. Who cares if Acheron, IPC, or the Galaxy Rangers show back up. Bone of that matters until they give Stelle an actual main plot. All they are right now are characters with their own individual stories that don't connect to Stelle at all.

>>4417829

>>4417623
>plot plot plot
You've been brainwashed by generations of AAA-games to expect a movie instead of a game. The plot is that (you) are there to have a fun road trip, meeting zany people in crazy places and killing time messing around with wacky mini-games. Your purpose is the purpose you give yourself. If they wrote Stelle a personal story, she wouldn't be (you) anymore. If you're unable to find any fun in exploring and bashing monsters, this game just isn't for you.

>>4417905
NTA but I don’t want a self-insert
With that said I’m enjoying Amphoreus’s story a whole lot

>>4417905
See this is the issue when people don't play enough gacha games. They convince themselves that all gacha games don't have a plot for the MC. Don't be like this person everyone. They're an idiot

>>4417938
I'm happy for you despite you having shit taste

>>4417905
By this logic theres no point in seeing any character again. If there's no purpose to the story outside of just adventuring why are some anons here saying that Acheron and some others will come back to do something? Just because YOU want to self insert doesn't mean we all want to.

>>4417975
>By this logic theres no point in seeing any character again
You don't even know what the word "logic" means, idiot. It's like you understood absolutely nothing about my post.

>>4417980
Shut up dumbass. No one understood your retarded take

>>4417980
Not that anon but what I got from your post is that you're a cringe self inserter and you're under this delusional belief that Star Rail caters to people like you. Fuck off

Oh boy here we go again

>>4417905
You’re on the wrong board tourist

>>4418054
Them proudly stating they self insert is kinda sad.

>>4412540
>My favorite scene with Mavuika was from the Ifa event. Seeing her be a terrible actor and her funny moment with Xilonen really humanized her and made her be a bit more relatable
agree, this was very cute. they're such a married couple

>>4418189
Xilonen being the one that made and has to constantly fix Mavuika's bike is a cute and funny detail. It makes the bike have some shipping meaning, which helps make me accept it's existence

>>4418208

>>4418208
I wish they took off as a ship. So much potential....all because Mavuika felt so impersonal as a character despite being the only human archon

>>4417159
Jingliu is working with Luocha and other people to kill Yaoshi. Fugue might have joined them, or at least plans to help

>>4418218
With the archon quest over hopefully now we can get some better stories with her

>>4418234
Not sure where you're going with here

The genshin event was fairly good

>Amber talking about the Mondstadt situation
>She says she thought it was all real
>The response to that statement was that Eula did an excellent job of keeping a secret

This implies that Amber and Eula spend a fuckton of time together and tell each other (almost) everything. I love the little stuff.

>>4419169

>>4419169
Who taught Lumine how to get swaggy with it like that?

Anyone else ended liking Escoffier more than they thought they would?

>>4419185
>makes it so I can finally run a premium ayaka freeze team without the canadian manlet
>a bit gay for furina
She's perfect. I hope escofuri has some staying power.

>>4419169
Costume swapping is so cute
>>4419185
She was pretty fun, good interactions with some of the cast. Maybe I just really like fontaine girls..

>>4419228
>>4419230
i dont paly it anymore but escofuri seems like a good ship for furina even if its still a cope for how they ruined my girl with the dragon thing yikes

Songlema is the gift that keeps on giving

>>4419230
>Costume swapping is so cute
It really is

This was really cute

>>4419307
peak couple

I wonder what are the odds that March 7th's 5 star version is her Eileen design from the beta?

>>4419856
but this is just stelle

>>4420323
Isn't this the beta version of March

>>4417997
>play a self-insert game
>cry that it suffers from the issues of a self-insert game
>that's because it literally IS a self-insert game
>noooo the protagonist just happens to be a blank slate without agency, it's not a self-insert game aaaaahhhhh
I don't even play the game anymore, you're retarded

>>4421065
Why the fuck are you here then?

>>4421065
This has to be either a sad attempt at trolling or you're really delusional. No one is on your side anon. Everyone wants you to leave. Go back to whatever board you came from and leave us alone

>>4421075
They came back almost a week later ro say I don't play the game anymore. I feel like they're here to either annoy people or they're just that stupid.

I’m praying hoyo brings something, anything with Cerydra and Hysilens. 3.x’s yuri is way too scarce post-Herta.
I do have my hopes up for 4.x though with it having Sakura and another leaker claiming the overall story will have a Yae village arc vibe (the way Amphoreus has parallels to the ER arc) and an onmyoji x youkai core theme. I’m coping hard for a Kallen to pair that Sakura with.

>>4421132
I feel like even Herta was sent out to die with the timing of the banners, but atleast she was cute.

>>4421132
>>4421150
To this day I'll never understand why they released Herta when they did. Not only was it before better banners, but they also ruined The Herta's hype by giving her nothing major to do in story. She should've been given a larger role for how long we've waited for her debut

>>4421150
>>4421188
While I agree with the story part, her banner had no other issues otherwise.
Aglaea the Sunday slave and Mydei the male aren’t better banners, and Tribs is meant for her.
I had no issues pulling E1 TY, E2S1 Herta, and E1 Trib as a monthly only player with average luck.

>>4421191

>>4421188
Her story segment felt REALLY shoehorned in just because of the banner, and it was just repeated corridors we've seen before and even featuring belobog outskirts AGAIN if I remember right, just lazy lazy..
>>4421189
I still think timing wise it was kinda bad, I won't talk about my feelings about HSR powercreep and the like for now, that's another concern though

>>4421189
People knew Castorice was coming out soon.

>>4421212
You can’t really put her banner anywhere else with you know who coming in 3.6 that’s also an ice dps
3.2 (AoE DPS Cas) - 3 patches - 3.6 (Ice DPS)
Placing her anywhere in the middle would be just as bad

>>4414695
roflmao

>>4421243
Hey I said potential
Can’t blame me for hoyo being hetniggers

>>4421244
I mean should have expected it from hoyo hsr

>>4421226
>you know who coming in 3.6
Speaking of why hasn't there been any leaks of her design yet? I hate leaks personally but I really wanna know what she's gonna look like already. People keep saying evil March and all I gotta say is if they give us toxic yuri for Stelle x March I'll love this game and forgive all its yapping.

>>4421255
0 insider leaks (not too unexpected for now with her being 3 patches away) + they didn’t reveal her in the DU boons (unlike Cerydra/Hysilens)
>>4421248
Yeah unfortunately

https://sr.yatta.moe/en/archive/book/553/forbidden-love-the-tree-and-the-butterfly
At least we get this I guess

>>4421248
Personally my biggest disappointment has to be Stelle x Castorice. The trailers had solely Stelle with her. There was a lot of emphasis on touching between the two of them. Some fans and fanart made her seem like Firefly. Only for them to have 0 romantic tension in game. Even worse her biggest ship by a large margin is with Mydei

>>4421303
wha tis this

>>4421363
3.3 readable about Mnestia and Cerces, and easily the most explicit yuri we’ve gotten in HSR

Please come back soon

>>4421412
1 more patch until she shows up

>>4421310
>Even worse her biggest ship by a large margin is with Mydei
Luckily there was nothing in the actual game for that since Hoyo was pushing Phaidei so hard and even had Castorice writing poems about their gay ass relationship, so that's just delusional hetfags being annoying fucks that will ship any kind of hetshit in sight as usual.

But holy hell Amphoreus sucks so much for yuri. I can see fujos having the time of their lives feasting with all of the nonstop fujobait between Phainon and Mydei or even Anaxa but the yuri scene is so dead by comparison. No one cares about Castorstelle because of mediocre writing, hetfags everywhere because of the shitty Aglaea and Anaxa shipbait and even Castorice ends up with godawful hetslop in fanworks because of all the femcel losers in this fandom who only care about using her as a self insert to ship themselves with Mydei. Leaks make it seem likely there'll be something between Aglaea and Cipher in 3.3 at least, but it's still a shitshow overall regardless.

I can only hope Cerydra and Hysilens will be the actual yuribait ship of the planet otherwise the drought continues. And hopefully Cyrene won't get shipbaited with Phainon either. God, I want to get out of this planet so badly and we're still stuck here for another six fucking months. At least the next planet might be more promising since Yae Sakura is supposed to be one of the key players, even if she might not get paired with Kallen this time (as long as it's not with a male).

>>4421450
Not even just in the yuri department, the plot is a snoozefest and feels more like a collection of characters quests loosely tied to each other. And a lot of it and the setting is recycled Elysian Realm + Natlan (gathering heroes and their power ups to save the day), but worse in every single way

>>4421453
Yeah, forgot to mention the story's complete ass too. I can't believe a leaker even said everything from 3.0 to 3.4 is a literal filler arc only meant for shilling all of these bland and utterly irrelevant characters (except the Kevin and Elysia faces, I guess). I thought Penacony was already bad enough with its terrible and rushed writing, but this actually feels ten times worse because it just keeps dragging on and on. Get me off this ride already.

>>4421450
HSR is a mixed toilet gacha that has no "canon" romance, the closest we got was firefly x TB which is either Yuri or het depending on the players own choice of gender. I guess the phaidei stuff gets pretty close to that too I suppose, but for the most part they try their hardest to leave everything slightly open to have the biggest market appeal / not to piss anyone off which is lame. The hetcucks as you call them are just as starved as us, and since nothing is "canon" we are equally as delusional as them anyway. It's a bitter pill to swallow, hopefully they will move to more interesting characters soon, this phaidei stuff is already like half of the HSR art from amphoreus.
>>4421453
>>4421462
Now this I completely agree with, this entire planet was a mistake if you ask me. I've tried giving it a chance but it's such a boring slog, at least penacony had characters I loved and a great setting. Now sure penacony had some awful pacing issues and I really don't know what's going on at the mihoyo offices when they decide to release content like this but oh well. It can't get much worse from here can it?

>>4421493
At least Hoyo tried to give us some yuribait before, so we weren't completely starved like we are right now. And this really does mean yuri fans lose the hardest in these omnislop games because we're completely outnumbered and most of the fandom is full of straights or bihets who only care about male characters at the end of the day so the males will get showered with the most love, attention and fanworks while female characters get ignored, sidelined, or outright shipped with the males if there's no strong yuribait for them because the fandom only cares about their relationship or proximity to male characters in that case. Look at Topaz for example who no one cared about in terms of ships at first even if she had potentially interesting dynamics with other women like Bronya, Asta, and Himeko until Aventurine showed up in the story and then suddenly she became more popular in the fandom only because of all the hetfags who wanted to ship him with a woman and didn't care to self insert into the TB. I know Hoyo tried to yuribait her with Jade later on but since Jade is so unpopular it didn't really do much in the end, and she's still mostly associated with the hetshit as a result because it's sadly the most popular ship for her.

I can see why the Reverse 1999 fans are so against adding too many male characters since they managed to form a yuri heavy fandom unlike the Hoyo games where yuri is usually the lowest. If you want the fandom to actually care about f/f pairings, it seems like the only way is by removing or reducing male characters since all they do is attract the fujos, yumes, and hetshippers who won't ever give a damn about anything yuri.

And because of all of this I just realized adding more HI3 expies to HSR is a bad idea since they'll only end up getting hetships for the most part. I know Bronya, Seele and Acheron managed to avoid that but Cyrene is already getting way too much ship art with Phainon before she even got to show up in the story.

>>4421526
The 3.3 story spoilers don’t exactly have me hopeful for Cyrene’s yuri potential in the upcoming patches either. I’ll even take heavy self-insert pandering over this Phainon dogshit, even if the trailers will be FF 2.0 featuring only Caelus.
I can only pray they don’t shit on Sakura in 4.x

>>4421526
I agree with most of that, but even the bait we've got before has been very brief and surface level. Black swan and Acheron did a dance pre-release and then what? They barely interacted in-game and most people probably forgot all about it by now. Big herta was the best thing they gave us for a long while now. I haven't been fully in the loop about future content or characters outside of "evil March" because I found amphoreus so dull.

>I can see why the Reverse 1999 fans are so against adding too many male characters since they managed to form a yuri heavy fandom unlike the Hoyo games where yuri is usually the lowest
Well, obviously the less dudes you have the more yuri heavy the fanbase will be. There's a lot of games that are exclusively girls but you can pick the MC gender, that could be the best middle ground I suppose. I would disagree about hoyo not being that yuri friendly, wasn't hi3 pretty yuri friendly? And I see a fair bit of yuri discussion about these later games too, but that could be confirmation bias as I deliberately look for it.

>>4421528
In this version I think the trailer content uses Stelle, no? Penacony was all Caelus. Anything over Phainon x Mydei would be nice though!

>>4421528
Lol if they ruin Sakura x Kallen, we will know hoyo's truly over their roots

>>4421541
HI3 is a good bit more than just yuri-friendly
That and GGZ are the 2 most yuri things to come out of Hoyo.
>Stelle
They still alternate. Stelle was in Cas’s Myriad, and now Caelus is in Hyacine’s trailer.
I assume they wouldn’t keep the MC shipbait only for Stelle so Caelus is likely showing up for Cyrene’s trailers if they go that route. Not that I mind since literally anything is better than the Phainonslop crack they’re pushing.

>>4421564
I could have sworn it was only Caelus in Penacony and I saw only Stelle early on in this new planet, but I will admit I've been following the game a lot less so I guess I missed out this.

>>4421541
>even the bait we've got before has been very brief and surface level
Tell me about it. I think I mentioned this in a previous thread here but I feel like the HSR devs treat yuri only as a marketing tool and nothing more so that's why we get moments like the Acheswan dance or Ruan Mei sniffing Herta outside of the game and nothing of substance inside the game for either pair. Meanwhile ZZZ had one of the strongest written/portrayed yuri ships with Astra and Evelyn (as long as you pretend that dumb trailer with Wise never existed) which was way better than anything HSR has to offer for yuri. No seriously, when was the last time we even got a developed on-screen relationship between two female characters that gave strong yuri hints? Because the only one I can actually think of is Bronya and Seele all the way back at the very beginning of this goddamned game.

Meanwhile the fujobait pairs like Phaidei get all sorts of fun interactions in the story and they even get pushed heavily in the marketing as well with all the recent stuff they've been putting out for them. I would kill for even one f/f pairing in HSR that had the same level of depth to it that Phaidei did with the constant bantering, the whole gay bath scene and then the heartfelt meet me in the next life stuff they did for the doomed yaoi I guess. I actually wonder if one of the reasons for the lack of yuri is because they want to appease waifufags by downplaying f/f content so they won't feel too threatened by it in the same way they'll never commit to a m/f relationship due to the fears these men have about cuckholding.

>I would disagree about hoyo not being that yuri friendly, wasn't hi3 pretty yuri friendly?
Oh yeah, I was mostly thinking about the mixed toilet ones, so Genshin, HSR, and technically ZZZ when I said that yuri is the lowest. HI3 actually demonstrates the same as Reverse 1999 where the less male characters you have, the more yuri you get. Too bad that game is almost dead though.

>>4421567
I think Ruan Mei and Herta is somewhat of a legit pairing just due to how often it's brought up, and sim universe being a fairly big portion of the game. Herta is a very unique character that doesn't really like interacting with people to begin with but Ruan Mei is somewhat of an exception. Bronya and Seele also got a callback to even during penacony which was very cute! I somewhat can't believe they actually did that..

>Meanwhile ZZZ had one of the strongest written/portrayed yuri ships with Astra and Evelyn
I'll be honest, I quit the game before these characters were added because the gameplay just wasn't for me, but this kind of stuff might have kept me around had I been there for it. I'll have a look later on maybe to see how it was portrayed.

>I actually wonder if one of the reasons for the lack of yuri is because they want to appease waifufags by downplaying f/f content so they won't feel too threatened by it in the same way they'll never commit to a m/f relationship due to the fears these men have about cuckholding.
Sadly I'm afraid to confirm that you are 100% accurate about this, the CN community especially is VERY prone to even threatening / attempting to kill gacha CEOs if there's even a hint of NTR / perceived cuckoldry. You might have heard of drama pertaining to snowbreak or GFL2 too over basically nothing. Some people love self-inserting and being the most important person in the universe and some people just want to see cute character interactions whether it involves the MC or not, you can never satisfy everyone I suppose.

>>4421567
ZZZ about add movie dates, the wise shit boutta get worse lol

>>4421573
I agree that Ruan Mei and Herta have all the right parts to make a strong ship, but I'm just kind of bitter that we always have to look for all of these crumbs that were mostly just told to us about their relationship because nothing was ever really shown in the game. I do hope they'll eventually get some good on-screen interactions one day.

As for the Astralyn stuff, you can probably look up a YouTube video if you don't want to actually play it again. This game is mostly about selling waifus and has a lot of ML pandering so getting into it for just one yuri ship is probably not the best idea anyway, unless you're fine with mostly Belle x female character ships even if Wise is the one that usually gets the actual marketing with them.

And the Chinese NTR drama is really pathetic I know. The funny thing is I think most of those guys left Hoyo games for good especially after they felt like Sumeru betrayed them or whatever for games like Snowbreak and WuWa so if Hoyo really is trying to play it safe with their female characters by reducing the yuribait to appeal to them it feels so pointless since they're not even going to come back again anyway.

>>4421581
Ugh, I figured as much. Playing ZZZ for yuri is like shooting yourself in the foot and pretending it didn't hurt. I knew Vivian and her obsessed stalker personality for you was a bad sign of things to come but it looks like the ML shit featuring Wise will just keep getting worse and worse from hereon.

>>4421412
I can't wait too

>>4421450
This planet is garbage. It's boring and is dead in the yuri department. It'll probably stay that way until March's comeback

>>4421462
Star Rail has been a drag since getting to Penacony. Penacony's saving grace was Firefly, and that's mainly because of her long term relationship with Stelle. If we're talking about her just in Penacony she was pretty meh there like everyone else.

>>4421600
March could be a "safe" bet since it's het/yuri in the same package just based on who is playing it, same deal they did with Firefly

>>4421584
Hopefully they'll write it as platonic, but I ain't expecting much.

>>4421526
Couple of counters to your post.
1. Many people do unfortunately ship Stelle with Aventurine so you aren't quite right there
2. Topaz x Jade isn't as small as you think and is her 2nd biggest ship. It's only out shadowed by Topaz and Aventurine because of how much longer the other two have been around. Plus in game she has more of a motherly role towards them
3. Acheron, Bronya, and Seele aren't that safe. I know there's a lot of people that Acheron with Caelus. The game both sucks at and tries to push her caring for the TB. They also pair her with Aventurine. There's also people who ship Bronya with Caelus. And luckily to a lesser extent Luka is paired with Seele by some people.
Like you said people will ship anyone with anyone in HSR without anything conclusive. I will say it's slightly unfair to attack hetfags for being delusional and pairing Topaz with Aventurine when some yuri fans pair Robin and Firefly, who have never met before

>>4421541
The Herta gave us less than the Acheron and Black Swan dance. At least those two are characters. The Herta is just there for gacha purposes. She's barely even a character

>>4421630
>At least those two are characters. The Herta is just there for gacha purposes. She's barely even a character
Herta is more of a character than Black Swan for sure, and arguably Acheron as well.

Play HI3 you goddamn whiny bitches.

>>4421633
I do
And before you say anything else I also play D4DJ, HBR, and R1999

>>4421630
The Herta is Herta so not really a new character in a sense, and she has a lot of lore especially if you do the sim universe stuff, she is very much a shut-in and awkward to deal with, they personalized her very well in the valentine's web event where other characters sang your praises to high heavens for the chocolate you gifted them and her response was this.

>>4421633
I tried it but I couldn't reverse Y-axis controls on controller, the only game I have ever seen to not allow this...when even early PS1 titles let you.

>>4421634
Post your Towa Tsugai account.

>>4421564
Since Cipher and the TB aren't that close in game I can see neither appearing in any of her trailers so that would mean Stelle might appear in Saber's trailer if she gets one. Caelus might appear in Phainon's which means Stelle has a chance to appear in Cyrene's, but at the end of the day it probably won't matter. I mean look at all the nothing her appearing in Castorice's trailers brought us

>>4421567
I'll never understand why people act like Astra and Evelyn are well written characters? They play off each other well but with everyone else it's a chore to care about them. Let's be honest outside of yuri we wouldn't give a damn about either of them. Even worse ZZZ's writing makes everything feel so disconnected time line wise. Everything can be happening days, weeks, or even months apart. The game has bad story structuring. It's one of the reasons I don't care for the yuri in ZZZ. Forget the fact that the odds of meeting the characters again are small. The odds of these characters continuing to develop are even smaller. Anby will most likely be like Dan Heng and we'll never see 5 star Anby again outside of banners. Astra and Evelyn will forever remain subtext yuri at best if we ever see them again. Vivian will always remain just a Belle simp because the game will never allow them to become anything more than that, and that's also if we see much of her in the future. I'd argue ZZZ characters are more surface level than HSR characters

>>4421637
?

>>4421573
>>4421584
I don't really agree with your Herta x Ruan Mei ship take

>>4421631
Not really. All The Herta is at the end of the day is a large Herta doll. Nothing interesting with her model and her personality is the exact same. The Herta is a glorified skin HSR tricked people into wanting

>>4421637
>The Herta is Herta so not really a new character
I never said she was a new character anon

>>4421647
I mean, yeah? She was operating the puppet when we interacted with them most of the time, it would be weirder if she acted differently. Her being a new gacha character doesn't have much to do with "Herta" character storywise.

>>4421645
Must be a relatively new addition then, thanks anon.
>>4421646
That's ok.
>>4421648
I'm just puzzled because you don't seem to think she has enough interactions / story when she's one of the most explored characters just due to being in the game since the release version. But yeah obviously her "alt" was just salesbaiting, but I think it's a pretty acceptable way to do an alt since it was her real form. I think selling the same character in different clothing is infinitely lazier

>>4421650
You're missing the point of my post anon

>>4421652
>I think selling the same character in different clothing is infinitely lazier
The irony of this post, your image, ans what we ultimately got with Herta is lost on you anon

>>4421661
Anon, the original point is you calling The Herta barely a character, but she inherit all the character traits, motivation and history from Herta, because, they're not two differents characters. At best, you could say that she's not all that different from the doll, but that's entierly a personnal preference and the story never tried to pretend like The Herta had a different personnality.

>>4421663
>Herta doll + Real Herta vs Character + same character just wearing a swimsuit
Which one is lazier anon? That was my point really, there's no reason a character would have a different kit if they wore different clothes, doll Herta and the real Herta would have different combat capability. She's still the same personality as the dolls as she is the one controlling them, I'm not sure why this is a bad thing.

>>4421634
>4 gacha
Strongest sister in this thread

>>4421633
I watched all the part 1 story, but can't bring myself to continue. The Moon arc's technobabble was brutal and even all character interactions felt so much shallower than in the past. Part 2's setting looks like more of the bubble universe and bullshit jargon plot. And it's pointless without Kiamei.

>>4421682
Do it for them, sis. You won't be disappointed

>>4421665
That's why I said The Herta. The Herta is literally just Herta. My point is they scammed us into rolling for for the same character and didn't bother adding anything new to her. At least with Anby and Dan Heng there's more lore and character development to justify the new versions. With The Herta we could've just gotten her from the jump. There was no point in waiting for her other than Hoyo wanting more money

>>4421666
They are equally lazy of you ask me

>>4421667
I also play Project Sekai, ZZZ, and WuWa, so that’s a total of 8 (with HSR)

>>4421693
That's fair. Ultimately alts are always atleast a little lazy, unless it's a skin / freebie like the (imaginary?) swordsman march 7th was

>>4421666
Aren't you basically comparing the same thing and just using semantics? Isn't the dolls just Herta's swimsuit in a way? Somewhat of an outfit/skin she wears when around people. We see that big Herta dresses slightly differently but lore and personality wise she's just big doll Herta. I don't see how that's any different from swimsuit of a character. Personally if you're gonna make an alt of a character I like how FGO does it with Artoria. Not counting some of the summer versions no Artoria are the same. They all have different personalities and lore. I don't have any issues with big Herta myself. I just will never care or roll for her. That's mainly because I personally don't roll for the same character unless that new version adds a new layer to that character. For example if 5 star March is just March but a 5 star variant I'll probably skip her.

>>4421704
If big Herta showed up for a reason story wise that added something new to her character I feel like I would've liked her. There was no character development reason why she's now here, nor real big story reason, which just makes her feel just there to me. She doesn't add anything new to Herta as a character that many alts from Hoyo tend to do. Compare big Herta to Dan Feng and potentially evil March and it feels like the writers just wanted to get her out and move on.

Just wanted to add a bit more context on why I personally don't really care for big Herta.

>>4421699
>Ultimately alts are always atleast a little lazy
Insane take. A limited cast with alts is the only way for a gacha narrative to work in the long term

>>4421704
Herta doll is not a pure wardrobe change, so couldn't just be a skin they release. Of course it's all semantics at the end of the day and I can see your point here too.
I think HSR had the right idea with the March alt where you can just change her path, but they make less money doing those, so dark March will be a new character just like Dan Heng was. It will be interesting to see what her personality is though
>>4421707
Ultimately it is a bit lazy, wouldn't the real issue be too limited of a cast then? I don't mind all implementations of alts though anon. And there could be positives too, seeing a fan favorite character be meta again for example. I'd still just prefer skins though in most scenarios

>>4421682
they buidl their own yuri sips in part 2 that are pretty good.
You are right tho part 2 does start with bunch of technobable but with words it gets better and better each chapter before it becomes pretty great and so gay it makes yuri haters quit.

>>4421694
I always wanted to give WuWa a try but since I basically missed Zani banner, can’t see a reason to anymore (which is a good thing, too many gacha is bad)

>>4421743
Zani'a banner still has 2 days left. Plus Cartethyia is coming out soon

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>>4421727
>wouldn't the real issue be too limited of a cast then?
I think HBR gets pretty close to a sweet spot, a large but limited cast of characters, and they get new forms when they're the focus of an event
For star rail, I think a small core cast of characters, like the Astral Express and the Stellaron Hunters, who get alts when they're the focus of a patch or receive significant development, and new characters central to a planet's story filling up the gaps

>>4421751
How long is the "mandatory beginner tutorial" section before you can roll freely

>>4421833
Not too long. Plus you can skip dialogue so that'll help move things along

>>4421840
I wouldn't advice anyone to skip story in games they are interested in, but I guess having the option is better than not having it (looking at you genshin)

>>4421856
I mean, they're planning to reroll, they can watch it the first time, but clearly skipping is going to make rerolling much faster.

>>4421856
While I did play it at launch, I completely skipped through the intro when I was rerolling for Zani. The 1.0 story is just way too ass, even by gacha standards.

>>4421857
Yeah makes sense, I find gacha rerolling to be miserable though.
>>4421860
It was a weak aspect of the game, I only played the launch stuff up to where you see Camellya (?) first time but I did notice the story improving bit by bit.

>>4421856
I'm not saying to skip the story now am I? I'm saying that if the anon wants to breeze through the tutorial they can skip the dialogue there

>>4421862
Rinascita has really stepped it's game up in terms of story. Carlotta x Frover is my new favorite

>>4421310
The Mydei shit is nonsense.
But yes, Castorice overlal is clearly a step down from how much they pandered with Firefly.
With that said, 3.X isnt all bad. HertaMei was a huge plus, for what this fandom can produce that is

>>4421526
R1999 has a fixed female character and is functionally a Visual Novel, it's an entirely different business model altogether.

I know she gets a lot of hate, but personally, I really liked Castorice's character and arc...

But yeah the whole ship-baiting part was totally pointless. I never got any sense for why she'd want to help Stelle in particular except that she was /there/. It works alright contextually, but the focus it got in advertising was really disproportionate. It might have worked if she had like, a companion mission set before her "Death" to develop a better 1-on-1 rapport, but that doesn't work with how they've designed that system and Amphoreus' story. As-is, they should have framed her helping Stelle as more a professional sense of duty than personal interest.

>>4421904
The set-up was PRIME ship fuel though.

(You) are the only one who can touch her! Wowzer! This is like...how a million romance stories begin! And then it's kind like....eh

I hope we get more siscon stuff with Castorice in the future than anything with Stelle desu

It's pretty obvious all the current gen (playable) characters are going to get resurrected in whatever resolution comes to Amphoreus' plot, but I wonder if it'll bring back any of the previous era characters? Would be nice if we got to see Calypso and her girlfriend in the denouement.

>>4421897
HertaMei was 1 trailer. If we're going by that than Casstelle was a huge win

>>4421904
>>4421915
Yeah it was really weirdly done. My only guess is they might pull a Firefly where there relationship grows overtime, though a big advantage FF had was knowing Stelle from the past. That allowed them to skip a lot of the development in Penacony. I think if they just committed more on Castorice wanting to touch someone the ship could've had something. The only thing I can see helping it is either the doomed yuri of Castorice no longer being able to touch Stelle, or Stelle somehow still being able to touch her. As of right now their relationship reminds me of Stelle and Acheron's relationship. The game wants us to believe they're closer than they actually are.

I'm hearing people hyping up some Aglaea/Cipher in the new patch story?

>>4421904
The fact that they did barely anything with the fact she could touch Stelle without killing her was a waste no matter how you look at it. Castorice had gone hundreds (thousands?) of years without knowing physical contact. That shit should have been world changing to her.

>>4422194
I’ve only just started it but Aglaea’s About: Cipher voiceline is quite nice
>I have lost much on the Flame-Chase Journey, and I have not a single complaint. And yet... With Cifera... Her eyes, blue as the clearest lakes, could not mask her disappointment on the day we bid each other goodbye. There must be a reason, one she could not tell me...

>>4422194
Apparently Aglaea adopted Cipher as a child...

>>4422216
It seems less like adoption, given Cipher's independent streak, but that Aglaea has known and cared for Cipher since she was a child, while she was already fully grown, so there's an element there you could call familial, whether sisterly or motherly. But of course, normies are like not to make any sort of nuanced distinction there. Possibility of the ship catching on despite that tendency, or getting largely shut down for it.

Be interesting to see which way the trends shake out in the general zeitgeist. Personally, I love me some age-gaps.

>>4422228
Let's be honest anon neither character is interesting enough for anything to catch on. At best it'll be barely popular like Lynx and Pela. At worst it'll be completely forgotten about about of a few fanfics. HSR shipping is mainly fujo. Plus these new characters are boring.

>>4422292
One of the reason is that the girls get what, 1 patch of interaction and then never again, we waited until 3.3 to learn that Aglea and Cipher have prior relationship, why there wasn't any sign of this in any of the others patch?

y'all argue too much about what is and isn't yuri or what is and isn't canon or what is and isn't given enough attention. Just post and enjoy girls loving girls and chill

>don't think about things, have no standards, just consume product

>>4422342
Complaining about people complaining is just stupid

>>4422377
But now you're complaining about people complaining about people complaining. Let's discuss the contradiction.

>>4422386
NTA, but pointing out that you're stupid isn't a complaint, just an observation.

>>4422388
'this behavior is stupid' is definitely a complaint.

>>4422304
Reminds me of Firefly knowing Stelle the whole time. Yeah in retrospect we can say she acted too familiar, and her being a SH helps out a lot. But within just Penacony it felt random. Possibly dropping small hints of their past with stuff that Stelle, before losing her memory, would've known and looking sad would've been cool. Or having FF already know all of Stelle's favorite foods and hobbies before Stelle told her would've been cool. It could've hinted at them knowing each other, and the players would feel FF's immediate attraction to Stelle as something understandable.

Star Rail has always been bad at building up and following up on things. They built up Castorice touching Stelle and I bet going forward it won't amount to anything. They built up some connection with Stelle and Acheron in their first meeting that amounted to nothing. They built up Dan Feng, and that version of Dan Heng hasn't been relevant since his debut. At least with The Herta she's now frequently present, but even with her she feels like a her down with all the hype they made with her.

>>4422386
I'm not complaining I'm pointing out your stupidity. Saying a movie is dumb isn't the same as listing off multiple reasons why you think a movie is dumb.

>>4422389
Idiots like you shouldn't be allowed to use the internet is a complaint. You're an idiot is a conclusion I came to from observing your stupidity. There's a big difference

>>4422386
Anon's not complaining that you're stupid. Anon is just saying that you are stupid.

>>4422390
>Possibly dropping small hints of their past with stuff that Stelle, before losing her memory, would've known and looking sad would've been cool. Or having FF already know all of Stelle's favorite foods and hobbies before Stelle told her would've been cool.
100%, it wouldn't have taken a lot of effort either. It was also particularly mean to make you choose between Firefly and Kafka in the past story sequence where you had to choose to say goodbye to only one of them. I feel they were trying to ship Castorice hard to repeat the success of Firefly, but atleast to me it felt particularly artificial and sudden right before her banner was about to release.

>>4422344
It's what all the people making actual y/u/ri fanworks do, might as while try to be in the same headspace.

They put someone's Cerces X Mnestia fanfiction at the beginning of this patch, I'm gonna be very disappointed if this story ends with no confirmation on if their relationship in the myths is accurate or not

>>4422442
Isn't the implication that the myths of the Titans are consistent between Cycles? So Cerces x Mnestia will always be part of Amphoreus' religious canon, regardless of the relationship of their Heirs?

(No one tell the Anaxa x Aglaea shippers)

>>4422446
If Anaxa becomes the new Cerces wouldn’t that make it a het ship then?

>>4422446
I'm kinda stupid and somewhat confused on the legitimacy of most of the myths because it seemed like Pollux died to bring back Castorice early on, but a lot of stories mention Thanatos being around. So I have no idea if I'm just completely forgetting something or if the stories of whoever was death beforehand was still passed down

>>4422450
Yes, thus my "no one tell the het shippers."

The previous/current Cerces/Mnestia is a yuri ship, given we know Calypso was a woman, and based on their "voice" so was the previous/current Mnestia, but we've never actually seen her, nor do we know what her relationship with Calypso was like. Would be nice if we got to find out.

The Cipher x Aglaea content in this patch was peak. Their relationship and Cipher's scenes were the only ones that caused me strong feelings in all of Amphoreus.
Aglaea didn't adopt Cipher, Cipher was used to living on her own and Aglaea just gave her a roof over the head. Cipher left Aglaea shortly after, due to the fear of her lies being discovered by the golden threads, and they have barely seen each other ever since, CN text implies Aglaea was younger than 18 years too.

I ship Seliose and the nameless woman.

>>4422504
I feel like the word peak has lost all meaning.

>>4422504
>CN text implies Aglaea was younger than 18 years too.
Good to know, yes yes.

>>4422504
Does any of it matter? Like seriously does any of what's happening on this new planet matter. HSR has been coasting on OP beta characters for the last 8 months to make up for its bland and boring writing. I'm reading what you're saying and just thinking "does any of this matter?" and "how does this connect to the main story of Star Rail?". This all feels so filler, which makes me not care for any of these characters. None of the interactions feels like it has any heart in it, the plot feels so forgettable, and at the end of the day this all will mean nothing to the Express crew once it's time to leave. All we'll get is a forced emotional ending where the crew and these characters will act like closer friends than they really were in story. I really hope in the 4.x patches they get better at writing these characters and making the stories feel like it matters. This planets feels like I'm watching an anime movie where nothing matters at the end of the day. I'm hoping March really plays some role because as the story is going I can't be bothered to even care for a single person. None of these stories dlow well into the next and they all feel like character story quests jammed into 1 main story that flows terribly.

>>4422560
I hate to break it to you anon, but plenty of people are plenty engaged with Amphoreus and Star Rail in general.

Personally I don't think it's very good, but desu Hoyo's writing has never been that good. SR is better than Genshin at least, but that ain't saying much. I don't feel any more or less engaged with Amphoreus than I had Penacony, the Xianzhou, Belabog or Herta Station. It's all par the course.
I mean this genuinely, but if you're not vibing with it even a little, maybe just play something else?

Damn it didn't realize they changed Stelle's VA https://youtu.be/sTUOTbYlT1M?si=cQun5loKK7KRwi9N

>>4422560
The Cipher x Aglaea interactions had heart. Of course, not comparable to the big hoyo yuri ships, but it was my favorite part of Amphoreus and I found it genuinely enjoyable. Cipher as a whole was a nice suprise. She did a lot of interesting things in a short time. Meanwhile Phagnon has 9999 hours of screentime and is still just a boring generic shounen protagonist.

>>4422566
I never said they weren't. To believe people wouldn't be is dumb. Please point out where I said that was the case in my comment. Jesus Christ can people not read these days?

>>4422583
Anon don't you realize if you hate 1 aspect about something you now hate the whole thing and should stop engaging in it. If you dislike 2 chapters in a book stop reading the whole book.

You know burnice canonically likes pussy?

>>4422583
"Does any of it matter." Maybe not to you, but to others, yeah.

And before you say you were talking about the events on Amphoreus in the scope of HSR's "Main Story", the bulk of your complaints were centered around the events of Amphoreus in a bubble and engagement with its individual story and characters, not their greater potential context, thus the treatment of the phrase "Does any of it matter?"

But to approach the question you apparently thought you were asking, yes. The initial setup with Black Swan and our subsequent Path Change, plus the interludes with Herta all point to some wide-reaching lore implications hiding under Amphoreus' surface. We just haven't gotten there yet.

>>4422606
Anon shut the fuck up

>>4422606
This is why Star Rail gets away with its bad writing lately. Autistic retards like this eat it up and call this slop great or interesting

>>4422566
Herta space station was interesting imo, as was belobog since the story was a bit simpler. I think mihoyo often fails at storytelling because it tries to make things deeper than they have to be, space china was just bland, penacony as a setting is super interesting but fell short in the storytelling aspects yet again. Amphoreus for me is just the worst of both worlds, uninteresting setting and bad storytelling. Mix in some uninteresting main characters who steal the focus like Mydei and Phainon and you have a recipe for boredom. The sooner we leave the better.

>>4422723
Nah, they are just too damn serious. Any real storytelling in a gacha will never work, for one due to the writers, but also simply because you have way too many chars you need to feature at specific times for sales purposes.
For good reasons was stuff like the ghost event well received, or "pokemon".

The need to take the stick out of their asses and have some damn fun. Learn something of Sparkle if you want.

>>4422756
>Any real storytelling in a gacha will never work, for one due to the writers, but also simply because you have way too many chars you need to feature at specific times for sales purposes.
It's not like this was a solved issue in multiples gacha games, like HBR, Limbus Company, or fucking HI3.

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>>4421866
ZanixPhoebe is cute as fuck and has a decent following on Xitter. Unfortunately completely wasted on wuwa audience

>>4422723
It also has the samw issue as Penacony of who's the main character. It jumps from character to character so frequently that no one feels like the main character. We're being introduced to and getting a characters entire story all in one patch. I felt like we were just getting to know Castorice when they moved on to the next character. Same with Cipher and the rest. Star Rail no longer doing story quests that would've provided some of these extra bits is hurting the main quest. Imagine if in the Liyue main quest we randomly spent time on why Baizhu has health problems. Like with Navia or Bronya you can mix backstory with the main quest, but the biggest issue here is that they're doing it with 8 characters back to back to back. After awhile it becomes exhausting hearing the 5th characters backstory in the main quest. Also why is Stelle here? She feels more like she's there so Hoyo can tell these new characters' stories more than she's there for a specific reason. For the most part she's just there. I'm not saying she has to be the center of the plot but if she's gonna be there have her mean something to the plot besides just being the protagonist that ends up fighting the big bad. If they don't have Stelle doing anything of great importance why not just use March as the MC in this arc. We can explore her backstory, why's she's affected by this planet, and by the end she gains her 5 star form. Stelle can play shotgun as March takes the leading role. One by one March learns more about herself while aiding each character. That to me would've made it feel like coming to this planet adds some form of development for the Express crew. This idea is under the assumption that Evil March is actually connected to this new planet and not from some other means.

>>4422761
Unfortunately the ship hasn't a bit of momentum since the two haven't talked in awhile. Cantarella won me over with her basically telling Frover they are married

>>4422773
Has lost*

>>4422756
This is true. Take the recent Hoyo events with Natlan characters. Mavuika being yelled at by Xilonen, Ifa and Ororon being complete idiots, and Mualani and Kachina being adorable sisters has done more good for the Natlan characters than the archon quests ever did.

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>>4422779
Yes, less serious events and stories do seem to resonate better. I still think you have room for both, just don't botch the execution. I do find myself more interested in the "lesser stakes" ones myself

>>4422786
I think it can work too. I just think recently with Star Rail it juggles too many ideas at once. Like Penacony was a murder mystery, a showcase of the strong oppressing the weak, and Hoyo questioning what it means to be free all at the same time. Even with the current story we have so many clashing ideas and themes that by themselves could make a great story, but together make a bloated mess. I miss when Star Rail was the funny game with serious moments. Now we have an overly serious game that isnt much fun.

I still enjoy the characters and the gameplay. The main story I hope gets better

>>4422786
>I do find myself more interested in the "lesser stakes" ones myself
The problem with Star Rail's story is that the stakes are identical from planet to planet, it's always "if we don't beat the bad guy this planet will be destroyed"

>>4422808
Add to that the fact that the TB has less and less relevance and connection with the new characters as time goes on. Castorice and her sister have this big emotional story and I keep wondering why Stelle is there. Stelle reflects on all the people she met and when these new characters pop up in get memories it feels hollow. She barely knows any of them so I didn't feel any emotional punch to the moment. Why don't we see SW, Herta, Asta, or even Hook? And since Stelle just feels there beating the enemy that has nothing to do with her feels hollow. It reminds me of fighting Sunday.

>>4422760
It's funny how earlier anons were complaining earlier about how lazy alts are, when HI3 kinda perfected the art of utilizing them.

Rather than an endless parade of new characters bloating the cast, HI3s "Battlesuits" mostly draw from the same pool of characters using different power sets, letting the gacha reflect developments in story and character. And then the whole "Bubble Universe" shtick lets them continue to use dead characters too, allowing the main story to have an actual sense of stakes.

Though the frank truth is that both Star Rail and Genshin don't really set themselves up for this, with their stories being mostly centered around traipsing from one locale to the next, necessitating large-scale cast changes by design. Genshin at least gets the benefit of this creating a vast and diverse world, which Star Rail lacks with each location being a distinctly divided KH-esqe "theme park world."

>>4422823
After seeing Star Rail's writing dip it's making me want to get back into HI3

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>>4422776
Check out @syurikenmaru, it's chibi art tho

>>4422818
Speaking of old friends why does the game keep thinking TB and Acheron are so close? I kept asking myself why was Acheron there to help Stelle. They aren't close enough for her to go out of her way to see her again. If this was always the plan why didn't they make their relationship deeper in Penacony?

>>4422838
Cute art, thanks
They’re easily my favorite wuwa pair

>>4422839
Because they act like TB is a expy of whatever their name in HI3 and Acheron has some vague memory about others timelines so she act in a "we we're friend in this other game" way with TB.

>>4422850
Why not have her act like "we are friends in this game"?

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>>4422843
I wish Zani and Talos went somewhere. They look so good together, and Talos' design screams badass lesbian to me. I haven't gotten to her part yet in Zani's story

>>4422850
Its weird for her to see Stelle has a Kiana expy when the story barely has them interact, has characters that look closer to Kiana in Penacony, and also never make that an actual plot point in the game.

On another note when will Jeht appear in a voiced event? I wanna know what she'd sound like and if they'd tell the va to have a different cadence in her voice when talking to Lumine and Aether. Since we finally got to hear Sorush's voice maybe there's a chance we'll see Jeht during Nahida's next birthday. Please Hoyo

>>4422917
We'll never see her again because players liked her quest more than the main story. But let's hope I'm wrong

>>4422920
There's also the fact that Aether mains and hetfags wouldn't be able to explain away her obvious attraction to Lumine. If they heard her call Aether a good friend while calling Lumine someone very special to her in an event they'd probably uninstall the game on the spot.

>>4422932
Well coincidentally isn't that the last instance of gender exclusive dialogue? I could be wrong on this honestly.. but I could imagine that pissing people off

>>4422935
Well if you want to go by what people say about Citlali blushing more with Aether than Lumine. I believe people here mentioned something with Miyabi where Belle has a different line than Wise. I think those are the only moments

>>4422839
Gotta wait for Edo Star to find the truth.

Shame how Natlan killed the yuri momentum for Genshin.

>>4422999
That doesn't make sense. We have to wait months to find out why a character that's been around for over a year cares for Stelle despite not having a relationship that warrants so much care?

>>4423004
It didn't though

>>4423004
Didn't we just get a new cute pairing in Escoffier and Furina.

>>4422958
Oh right the Citlali thing, can't say I ever checked the Aether version of that since she's pretty thirsty for Lumine already.
>>4423004
I dunno, I think we've got some stuff.. Citlali x Lumine, Furina x Escoffier (technically fontaine but released in a natlan patch cycle), Mavuika x Xilonen too

>>4423029
I'm pretty sure people were just seeing things Citlali is described to like both travelers. Even if they want to bs that she looks at Aether differently the main point is still clear, which is Citlali really likes the Traveler.

>>4422839
Acheron spends her days going around helping random dead people or those who fell in nihility. So I assume she just gave priority to Stelle cause they know each other.

>>4423031
It was a bit disappointing she wasn't awake if/when you brought her the books she wanted. But yeah I had fun thinking about the scenario at least, and I guess I appreciate the books not just being a throwaway line to advance the plot, you could actually get them for her if you desired.

>>4423037
I guess. Honestly the fact that we have to just assume this is the case tells you how poor the writing is.

When are these two grannies gonna meet? I need them, Yoimiya and Mualani, Itto and Ifa, Xiangling and Escoffier, and Alice and Yae Miko to all meet. The last one mainly because the mischief they'd come up with would be insane.

>>4423069
Klee and Nahida should meet because I just know their interactions would be so adorable. Imagine Nahida teaching Klee a more destructive way to make her bombs.

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>>4423031
Yeah I have seen comparisons of the Aether & Lumine versions of the scene people talk about, and it is definitely a collective hallucination or some shit. Her reaction is identical in both.

looks like ZZZ 2.0 is adding more dating like functions with a movie theatre for all your Belle shipping needs

>>4423596
I wonder how that'll work with characters like Burnice or Ceasar, who had no subtext with Belle. Also I don't get why games add in dating sim stuff when they never commit to having the characters outright say they like each other. If we can go on a date with Vivian just allow Vivian to be Belle's gf.

>>4423751
>with characters like Burnice or Ceasar, who had no subtext with Belle
Do you think they care?

https://x.com/ImAnnaNuy/status/1926026834820362499

>>4423751
>Also I don't get why games add in dating sim stuff
Because these games are aimed at pathetic straight men who need every female character to revolve around their self insert

I'm still astounded this got pitched, approved by executives, storyboarded, animated, previewed on a stream, and then released

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>>4423805
Yeah but wouldn't it be easier to just have the characters just outright state they love the MC? For example look at WuWa and how the girls are pretty open about their feelings. I don't get why games like ZZZ and FGO add in obvious romantic stuff but never want the girls to look at the MC and just say they like them? They're brave enough to have a sating feature but too scared to have it mean anything. At that point why even have it?

Of course ZZZ shares a comic of Vivian being jealous of Astra visiting Wise at the video store.

>>4423920
>games like ZZZ and FGO add in obvious romantic stuff but never want the girls to look at the MC and just say they like them
I saw a review/video essay once where the guy mentions that when he was a teenager, he'd watch romance/ecchi anime but get uncomfortable when things got overtly intimate because he had no idea how to behave in that situation
I guess this is a similar mentality. It's for guys who like the idea of hot girls being into them, but don't know what they'd do with an actual relationship

There's one.

>>4423974
it's honestly a bit sad how they want to push the narrative of Wise being this oblivious harem lead when in-game, Belle is the one who flirts with girls

>>4424062
There's more than one, in fact. I'm kinda surprised that it got a nice flow of shippers, it's to bad they will most likely never interact again.

>>4424022
It's because harem anime from the 90's-2000's spent 90% of their time creating "scenarios" instead of telling a romance story and all the shitty battle academy and isekai shows that came after mirrored that

So you got generations of idiots that grew up on "girl X jealous of girl Y because of misunderstanding hijinks" or "le nice MC obliviously helps girl when she's at her most vulnerable" instead of two characters actually being interested in getting to know each other and getting together.

>>4423920
>I don't get why games like ZZZ and FGO add in obvious romantic stuff but never want the girls to look at the MC and just say they like them?
Weird examples, when ZZZ has Vivian who does just that and even had marriage documents prepared for herself and the MC. And FGO has also several girls that explicitly say they like Gudako.
WuWa does nothing different from either of those with Camellya or Shorekeeper (the only ones that explicit).

They don't try to take it "too" far because you get problems like WuWa has, with it just making any future girls loving the MC feel not only overdone, but also make people painfully aware how the last 5 got thrown in a ditch after their banner.

>>4423892
Is it that astounding? We know for a fact people high up in Mihoyo, the original founding members at least, like if not love yuri. They're perpetually doing what they think they can get away with in terms of both market reaction and CCP reaction.

Helia's Coralie shrine.... very subtle.

>>4424186
Wrong. In ZZZ it's treated as a joke with Vivian being an obsessed fangirl. The fact that Belle and Wise are equally important to her proves it's more of a gag when it comes to love.

>>4423920
You can end up like snowbreak if you take it too far too, in that game you are the only person in the entire universe as far as the cast of playable characters is concerned. The chinese incel playerbase was so angry that male NPCs even existed in the game so they got completely removed (they had no dialogue or anything, they just provided buffs to your team but clearly that's NTR!). I think mihoyo just wants to play it way too safe to "not offend" anyone, but they still have to drop some hints so romance enjoyers have something to talk about.

>>4424187
It's a shame this was all we got out of those two for the most part, it feels like they want to do more yuri but are afraid of backlash nowadays.

>>4424192
You clearly didn't play it, because both of these are wrong. Her affection isn't played just for laughs and she is very explicit in the Phaethon she loves is the MC one. Her backstory and reason for starting to obsess over Phaethon was specifically made to explain why she cares more about one Phaethon than the other.

>>4424186
I always gotta laugh when people act like they know what they're talking about. Just you've never played WuWa. I mean if you did you'd know Cantarella basically said her and Frover are married in her story quest.

Also you'd know that many characters have returned. Legit every woman that likes Frover was just in this current patch. Seriously play the game and stop getting info from second hand sources.

>>4424193
That doesn't make any sense. Hoyo players care for OP characters. Nowhere has it ever been proven that yuri would impact any of their games. Let's stop making excuses for them. They just don't care to add in more yuri. If it was about yuri itself why is HSR and Genshin pandering to the yaoi fandom more and more lately? Wouldn't that be just as no go with the large male fanbase?

>>4424197
>cares more about one Phaethon than the other
So she cares about both. Thanks for proving my point anon

>>4424199
I mean the male fanbase is seething over the homo stuff. ZZZ is also flopping like a circus, don't maybe the new stuff will change that.

>>4424197
Saying someone has never played a game after showing you clearly don't play Wuthering Waves is crazy levels of ignorance

>>4424199
They have party join lines together and I believe they had a line together on the anniversary roller coaster thing

So that's....something I guess. Penacony story sucked anyway

>>4424201
Wouldn't they back off of homo stuff instead of doubling down on it? Mydei/Phainon has become one of HSR's biggest ships thanks to the story. Same with Neuvillette and Wrio. Thanks to the recent event even Ifa and Ororon are growing in popularity.

>>4424203
Penacony as a whole sucked, but that's because the characters sucked. Acheron was probably the start of HSR's decline. She's the first character where they put profit in name recognition and meta over storytelling. She has 0 real development with the rest of the cast and felt like a plot device. She there to do something important just to justify why she's there. Honestly because of that I don't really like her.

>>4424204
I think it's because HSR and Genshin are so big they can weather any negatives that come with homo stuff (which is usually less sales). ZZZ on the other hand was self-insert pandering from the start

>>4424199
>why is HSR and Genshin pandering to the yaoi fandom more and more lately?
They are trying a new approach to see if it bears fruit I suppose. In Genshin they did this in Sumeru I recall and didn't they publically say it was a failure? In HSR it'll continue till revenue numbers go down. Ultimately they will try to pander to "everyone" a little bit to keep multiple revenue streams open but not commit to a single one.

>>4424200
So you're saying it doesn't count unless she has no one else in the world she has positive emotions for? Well, I guess to be expected of someone obsessing over WuWa to screech NTR if a girl even looks at someone besides the MC.

>>4424207
Sumeru did good numbers with each banner didn't it? It was also one of the most beloved stories

>>4424208
You're clearly just retarded anon.

>>4424206
>ZZZ on the other hand was self-insert pandering from the start
ZZZ has quite a lot of NPC gayness, Jane's various adventures just to name some.
The homo content (or lack of it) really has nothing to do with the flopping anyway. ZZZ has huge issues on a design level they terribly mishandled since 1.2
The seething ML chinks also were proven repeadetly toothless with Vivian not doing great and Astra visibly underperforming because of their stupid stunts. And thats only in ZZZ.
Even in Wuwa the biggest success recently was Zani, who is basically the least for (You) character in 2.X

>>4424213
Zan is a cool design and basically discount Arlecchino

ZZZ totally dropped the ball after its early designs and turned into another animeslop

>>4424213
Zani's success in JP also gave us a lot of Zaphi love, even if its a borderline crackship.
I just love this dynamic.

https://x.com/MsCheckaCheck/status/1926307200332632269

>>4424208
Anon you can debate you're point without putting words into someone else's mouth. All that does is negate whatever point you're trying to make by sounding childish

>>4424214
>and basically discount Arlecchino
Is Genshin your only frame of reference for any character? They both wear pants, basically the same?

>>4424220
Anon, Kuro has been huffing Mihoyo's exhaust pipe for almost a decade.

>>4424213
Didn't Cantarella helped Wuthering Waves top ZZZ and Genshin in sales last month? Though it was largely going against rerun banners.

For ZZZ didn't Lighter and Burnice also massive underperform?

>>4424219
I'm not worried about looking childish next to someone who's entire arguments are
>making shit up
And after proven wrong
>noh uh
Also thats not putting words into anyone's mouth, because he literally said her loving MC Phaethon doesn't count because she also likes the other Phaethon platonically. Unless he wants to admit he actually knows nothing and took "liking" to mean romantically in both cases.

>>4424217
>Jane never got a really popular ship for all the hot tail Action
Its not fucking fair. Mouse girl should have been playable.

>>4424222
For the games, sure. Not really for character designs. For better or worse.

>>4424220
Anon this counter argument falls flat when there's a crap ton of fanart and videos referencing this fact. I wouldn't call her discount since I love both so I don't fully agree with that anon on that part.

>>4424224
Thanks for admitting you're just a pathetic child. Also that wasn't even my entire argument. Nice to know you aren't just acting childish but have a reading level on the same level as a child

>>4424230
The people making those definitely have Genshin as their only frame of reference, so thats not saying anything. They're not particularly similar. Wears pants, maybe if I stretch it a crime past? Honestly they should have made Zani a bit more rich lady like Arle, to make her batman gig funnier.

>>4424229
Weren't people also joking about Black Swan and Shorekeeper? Don't want to turn this into a Hoyo vs Kuro thread since I love both games.

>>4424233
We're talking about Zani and Arle specifically though. Vivian and Cantarella isn't just a huge coincidence either. Though I'm not sure who is ripping off who there.
Just chink things.

>>4424232
Wears pants, white hair, has unique eye features, both come from the Italian region, both a high ranking members of an organization

>>4424234
Anon that's why I said also.

>>4424236
Thats a pretty massive reach even you have to admit anon. Half the characters in Wuwa have white hair and Zani is just a employee of the Montelli, not a high-ranking member of their organisation comparable to Arlecchino.
Also Fontaine is france not italy. Literally the name is french.

>>4424206
>ZZZ on the other hand was self-insert pandering from the start
At first I had hopes that Belle and Wise having actual personalities meant ZZZ wouldn't do the cringe self insert stuff. But ZZZ ended up pandering to it the most

>>4424236
>both come from the Italian region
Pretty sure Fontaine is (northern) France.

>>4424217
Perfect for tail sex

>>4424245
Vague hopes they tone it down now that it flopped twice in a row. But we'll see.

>>4424242
Not really honestly you're just trying hard to ignore it

>>4424246
European. You get what I mean

>>4424236
>>4424242
>>4424246
The Zani reach aside, are there actually people who still don't know the entire plot of Fontaine is a pun on france being 法国 literally law country in chinese?

>>4424242
Anon fuck off and create a WuWa board. Fuck you're so god damn annoying.

>>4424253
Lets agree that Zani is discount Arlecchino in the same way france is discount italy.

>>4424255
Stop fucking talking about Zani retard

>>4424258
Let's agree that you fuck off and stop talking about wuwa on the hoyo thread loser

>>4424258
I made a simple mistake. I will say you bli day rejecting my other points with simply saying "other characters have white hair" or "we aren't talking about Shorekeeper and Black Swan" is pretty funny.

>>4424217
>>4424199
WuWa fans are such tryhards. I hope you're happy for turning this board into a WuWa one as well.

>>4424270
Forget about lurking more, learn what words mean in the first place.

>>4424276
Fuck off loser.

>>4424276
This little homo thought he was gonna get support on this post when hes posting about WuWa on a hoyo board. Talk about being delusional. Its not anyone here's fault your game isnt popular in terms of yuri to have a thread of its own

>>4424286
NTA but anon, it's painfully clear that you're samefagging since you clearly didn't learn what a board is between those two posts.

>>4424191
>"Do you think the vase of lilies in the corner is too subtle?"
>"Nah, I'm sure they'll get it."

Every single thread I lurk in just turns into an argument between two people who sometimes fight for hundreds of posts per thread

Wait why are people talking about Wuthering Waves here? Its one thing to comment once or twice but to post images makes no sense, especially for a crack ship like Zani and Phoebe. Is it a troll or someone that desperately wants attention

>>4424287
In fairness to that anon you could just stop posting about something off topic like Wuthering Waves or just leave. It is annoying to see tbf

>>4424218
The height gap is the best
Can’t wait to have them be BiS for each other in 2 patches

Their height gap is so cute. What's cuter is the fact that Belle would probably be the more dominate one in the relationship

>>4424321

>>4424308
>Is it a troll or someone that desperately wants attention
Obviously.

>>4424323
What's funny is Lumine and Belle have height gap ships but Stelle doesn't since she's the latest woman in her game

>>4424302
South east Asians in a nutshell i swear they live to argue over nothing online

>>4424370
Where's your source on this topic? Or is it you just made it up?

>>4424374
Over a decade of experience on this website and seeing the posting patterns of SEA posters on multiple boards

Nobody cares, anons.

>>4424384
You're right anon no one cares about that game

>>4424205
>She has 0 real development
God forbid a character is not a mopping emo who wastes the whole screentime getting us to feel sorry for them like Aventurine. I find it very refreshing that Acheron just shows up to do her stuff without all the "woe is me" like Phagnon throughout all of Amphoreus. She's there to explore themes and philosophy.
Firefly didn't get any development either and she had the lion's share of screentime. She didn't change any of her view points or grew in any way.
Robin, Sparkle, Jade and Boothill did fuck all during the whole story, but you think Acheron is the biggest issue?

>>4423892
That video was gayer than gay sex

>>4424203
I need a Penacony fix fic. There are so many good ideas and potential, but that got thrown out of the window by shitty writers. I will never forgive hoyo for baiting with the Constance + Swan + Acheron subplot, but doing literally nothing with it. If you throw Sparkle in there, there's some crazy lesbian love triangle (square?) intrigue on top of the plot.

>>4424347
Height gap goes both ways you know

>>4424404
How's that refreshing? In a boring bloated story like Penacony how's it refreshing to have a character that's there to do their own thing and increase the yapping? She was boring and added nothing to the story. On that note when did I say any of those characters were good? I said Acheron started the downfall of Star Rail for me. I never said after her any other character was any good. I hated Sunday, Misha, and Gallagher

>>4424406
What kind of gay sex do you watch if that's less gay than that? I feel like whatever you're watching is soing it wrong. I suggest you watch Gushing Over Magical Girls.

>>4424413
Unless you're shipping Stelle with Sparkle or SW HSR doesn't have a ship with Stelle and someone that much shorter than her.

>>4424432
Sorry meant to respond to >>4424409

>>4423892
And then did fucking nothing with it. What a waste.

>>4424415
>Gushing Over Magical Girls.
Ugly characters and MC doesn't have any deep connection with the girls she lewds. At least as far as I read it.

>>4424453
Shit taste but I guess that's to be expected based on your previous comment

>>4424327
The sad part is they didn't even try to hide it. They were posting images of WuWa girls even when what they were saying had nothing to do with WuWa.

>>4424404
>Firefly didn't get any development either and she had the lion's share of screentime. She didn't change any of her view points or grew in any way.
It's funny 'cause like, all the extraneous information frames Penacony as all about her character development, going from a fatalist to having some love for life. But we don't really see that since she spends a decent amount of her screentime faking her personality, so we never really see that shift in her despite being told it happened.

>>4424452
I partially blame the fandom for Hoyo's yuribait. They've realized to keep the yuri fans all they have to do is bait us with brief interactions or trailers. With whales they just need to make the characters broken. The hardest group to appease is probably the m/m fans. It feels like that's the reason why we've gotten so much men hanging out with other men in Hoyo games recently. That's probably the hardest market. It us /u/ fans started to act a bit more selfishly and started to not care for the yuribait they'd actually start trying. The biggest yuri ships in Star Rail is between two people that have said all but 5 words to each other. Then there's Robin and Firefly, Shenhe and Yelan, and Arle and Furina as well. If I was Hoyo I wouldn't try hard either.

Speaking of yuri in gacha games what's the likelihood this will be good? Showing off the female MC, her being fully voiced, her having an amazing design, and that ending with her and that other woman give me hope

>>4424460
Not sure what that is, I assume a new gacha? There's a few upcoming ones that people seem to be interested in, I'm always pretty cautious of these from devs I don't know. I don't like mihoyo for a multitude of reasons but atleast their games stick around

>>4424458
>The hardest group to appease is probably the m/m fans.
Nee-sama, please. Fujos just need to see 2 men in the same frame to ship it and act like the pairing is canon. A male character can be the worst written shit from a butt, but fujos will worship him.ánd even invent a backstory for him if needed. See Kazuha's NPC friend. They might have lower standards than het shitters

>>4424475
Here's the trailer
https://youtu.be/ELC4r7fbKEQ?si=ASd2Ufy4ql5Pff-x
I'm hopeful since they seem to be doing the reverse of Hoyo and treating the female protagonist as the main one. She's in the trailer and they even use her in all their social media accounts

>>4424483
That's an interesting art style / setting. Not sure how I feel about that mount she was riding though, didn't exactly fit in. But seems interesting enough and the girls are cute, won't get too optimistic though..
And Hoyo generally alternate which gender MC they use for promos, except for genshin where they have left Lumine completely out. Which is crazy when you consider how much more popular she is.

>>4424528
Luminr reminds me of Gudako. Far more popular than their male counterpart. At least with Gudako it might be harder to track which MC a player is using because you can swap them anytime. With Lumine Hoyo must have some form of a tracker that can show how many players use Lumine over Aether.

>>4424249
That's obviously not the lesson the team has taken so far considering theyre upping the character "dates" stuff

>>4424546
They probably think the issue is it underperformed because the character wasn't meta enough. Yi Xuan also screams a character they'll want to appeal to hetfags. I can already see the Wise trailers coming with her.

Firefly Joins the astral express crew in 3.8

>>4424766
Source?

>>4424775
Probably has an uncle who works at Hoyo.

>>4424458
Good thing is that we are past Shenlan. That ship was made because were afraid they would get jumped by Beiguang shippers if they tried to ship Ninglan.

>>4424928
*because people were

>>4424766
I like firefly, I also like that I can use her with Stelle in her team. Now that I think about it, it's somewhat rare that the MC is even useful in these games huh? But also rare that a ship synergizes well with each other in gameplay terms, guess I can think of one other example but that's about it.

>>4424933
I feel like Harmony Stelle and Remembrance Stelle were made specifically for Firefly and Castorice

>>4424933
If you wanna stick with yuri Furina x Escoffier work well together

>>4424956
Yeah it was really nice of them to design it like that, I think it's cute. Although if they keep doing this every planet I could see it getting a bit formulaic.
>>4424964
Ah my bad anon, I was still talking about MC ships where they are also paired together in gameplay. I'm tired today so I didn't express it very clearly. I do like me some Furina x Escoffier though! Best part of the update really

God I love submissive Ei

>>4425175
>submissive
>post pic with her tied
??? you don't need to tie a submissive person.

Anyone else feel that if the SH were the main characters instead of the Express crew the story would be so much better. A much of misfits traveling around collecting stellarons from different planets while being hunted by the galactic government sounds so much more fun than just being a generic good guy saving people simply because we're nice. It would give more reason why we amdo what we do. Plus I feel like each SH has more character and story than each Express crew member. There's also the fact that all of Stelle's character development and backstory comes from the SH

>>4425233
>A much of misfits traveling around collecting stellarons from different planets while being hunted by the galactic government sounds so much more fun than just being a generic good guy saving people simply because we're nice.
If the Stellaron Hunters were the main crew, then they'd be the generic good guys

>>4425233
Yes, protagonists that have any amount of grit are infinitely more interesting than generic good guys, it's something I've noticed myself enjoying while playing a lot of RPGs recently. I was pretty shocked recently while playing through a JRPG where the MC straight up just assassinated some corrupt bad guy without telling the party about it because he knew the law wouldn't do shit about him. It's not even that impressive of a scene or anything but when I expect nothing but cookie cutter "turn the other cheek", lawful good protagonists from most games, it's a breath of fresh air. It's also more interesting to play as a rebel faction instead of being a part of the "greater good".

Stellaron hunters as a faction is also the most popular one in the entire game, Kafka, Silver Wolf and Firefly are some of the most popular characters in the entire game to boot, no matter which region you poll. They are so underutilized it's honestly sad. At best we'll see SW pop up in hologram form for events, lazy.

>>4425236
How come? If you still kept being hunted by the law while you do everything it takes to find stellarons I wouldn't consider that to be a "generic good guy" faction. Sure the end goal is good and all, but if you break the law and crack a few eggs along the way I'd still say that qualifies as being a misfit faction instead of a goody two shoes one.
Or are you saying you have such little faith in mihoyo's writing that you think they couldn't write SH as being the main cast without them being turned into generic good guys? I guess I'd agree with that take honestly.

>>4425175
It's the only correct interpretation of Ei

>>4425245
>If you still kept being hunted by the law while you do everything it takes to find stellarons I wouldn't consider that to be a "generic good guy" faction.
Zzz started out with protags being wanted criminals. Criminals with a heart of gold, sure, but they didn't go out of their way to do good things, they did good if it helped them get closer to their personal objectives.
It hasn't even been a year yet and they're already thoroughly white washed and generic good guys

>>4425236
I don't think so. Nothing about them screams generic good guys

>>4425262
The issue is at the beginning Belle and Wise didn't have much character. They were generic MC characters. That wouldn't apply to the SH because they aren't the playable characters like Belle and Wise are. And let's be real looking at Belle's design did we expect her to be anything else but a sweet adorable mess?

>>4425245
>Or are you saying you have such little faith in mihoyo's writing that you think they couldn't write SH as being the main cast without them being turned into generic good guys?
In the first place, you can't write it in China without the government inviting you for a talk, or at least not become big enough in the eyes of everyone.

>>4425265
Sis, the Stellaron Hunters, even as a semi antagonistic faction, have already been whitewashed like hell. Hoyo is simply incapable of writing a playable character without defanging them

>>4425275
I guess that's a fair point too. It is a bit of a shame they are creatively shackled just based on the region they operate in, but I don't have enough faith in their writing ability regardless.

>>4425175
We need more submissive Ei yuri

>>4425276
Well duh. No one wants to play a completely bad person. Also the SH aren't even bad. They just aren't overly nice and good

>>4425279
I highly doubt Hoyo is shackled by anything

>>4425361
>They just aren't overly nice and good
So they're edgy generic good guys. I fail to see how that's an improvement

>>4425383
Huh? You're not making much sense. I'm not looking to turn this into an argument over something that isnt happening so I'm not gonna continue any further

>>4425687
I don't get it

>>4425696
her tail is actually just anal beads, what is hard to get

>>4422839
>why was Acheron there to help Stelle
Acheron was staying at the AE train to have sex with Black Swan, since the poor memokeeper has nothing to do in the story. Later, Acheron's ferryman senses tingled and she noticed Stelle was in the afterlife, so she showed up to help.

>>4425175
>>4425259
TBF Ei is a turbo-sub in the vast majority of Eimiko art.

>>4425785
I would've said is this canon if Hoyo weren't cowards

>>4425803
I hope Acheron's writing is vastly improved in Edo. Penacony was nothing but hype moments and aura for her.

>>4425807
Do we even know she'll show up there? Personally Acheron hasn't really done much that I feel requires her to ever meet the Express again.

>>4425862
Acheron can meet the express at any point for basically no reason because the express decide their next destination basically through either rock paper scissor or getting jumped with a request to go litteraly anywhere.
Narratively, we already know that Stelle is super special and has to be gazed by basically any aeon and getting nihility gaze is 100% going to involve acheron.

Does Elysia have a manta ray cause it looks like a pussy when the labia minora are spread?

>>4425865
I mean narrative wise whats the point in meeting Acheron again. She doesn't really add anything the Stelle's story. She doesn't really have her own story. And on top of that the odds of them running into each other in the vast galaxy is so slim it almost feels unbelievable that they will ever run into each other again. Stelle seeing her in 3.2 was already a stretch and felt random.

>>4425888
>She doesn't really have her own story
Her main goal is to kill IX. The overarching plot is also about killing Aeons and who knows, maybe she will team up with Jingliu and co., help them so they will help her later. If Frebass is not actually dead, there's also a plot point with her and Acheron.
If hoyo focused on how she struggles with her memory, it would be awesome. But they did fuckall with it in Penacony, so it would only make sense in the story if she deteriorated until we meet her again.

>>4425888
>add anything the Stelle's story
What story? Stelle story so far is basically getting dragged into whatever is currently happening right in front of her, with barely any initiative.

>>4425932
You're giving plots for Acheron, which doesn't really have anything to do with the Express

>>4425945
Hoyo have done Stelle and Belle dirty. They are the most "along for the ride" Hoyo MCs ever. Yeah Lumine isn't mostly this too, but at least she has an endgame goal of saving her brother that helps drive the main plot forward. Its crazy how well other gacha games are with writing their MC compared this billion dollar company

>>4426098
...the express will fight Nanook in the end. Killing other Aeons will teach them how to deal with Nanook, and probably earn them allies in their fight.

>>4426110
I guess anon

>>4426098
They have done Lumine dirty too, she's not featured in any of the promo materials or trailers. Everything from the in-game hint system to events is nothing but Aether; the worst looking male protagonist I have ever seen in any videogame. It's almost as if they regret even letting players pick Lumine, then seeing her popularity, they now leave her out just in spite.
But if we go by just MC relevance to the actual plot then sure, genshin wins since the MC actually has a personal agenda in the story.

>>4425862
I'd be weird not to meet the most Japanese-looking character in the Japanese planet don't you think? Then again, aren't we supposed to meet Sparkle again in Edo?

>>4426341
Not really when that character has shown to have zero connection to that Japanese region when we met her

>>4425479
>Astra rerun is coming
A little tempted
But I havent forgotten how they whored her out in that trailer

>>4426367
Knowing how Hoyo works watch by ZZZ's 2nd anni you could probably get Astra for free.

>>4426346
She's the Raiden expy. They got big plans for her and they've learned a lot from Ei.

We’ll be seeing her in the 3.4 Myriad Celestia soon enough

>>4426856
I mean more why not set up these plans. There was nothing in Penacony that would lead me to believe there was any reason her and Stelle need to meet again outside of "oh you happen to be on the planet too"

how do you guys feel about zzz 2.0? for me it doesnt seem really interesting

>>4426958
ZZZ isn't very interesting. Personally I find it the most boring of the Hoyo game.

>>4426958
Too flashy for the simplistic combat, the urban aesthetic is played too safe, just compare it to something like JSR or TWEWY
Also some characters straight up stopped mattering like Fairy

>>4426958
ZZZ has a ton of personality it doesn't take advantage of and the mandatory 2nd year in notChina might be the worst thing they could do. Not a fan of the hacker MCs living dual lives never doing any hacking and turning into generic chosen ones who everyone knows about. Changes to gameplay are egregious overcorrections to player complaints yet the handholding is still as bad as ever, tutorials vomit terminology to the point it's easier to learn by trial, the story is simultaneously padded and rushed so dramatic moments fall flat, but that's all the generic hoyo experience.

I wish the combat were more 'fighting game lite' but I understand it has to be playable on phones. They really need to lean into the original techno-punk art direction. Factions shouldn't be so disconnected from each other, it's a small world and they should be bumping and clashing even without the siblings' involvement. Obviously I want them to be more consistent when they tease characters with yuri. I think it'll sort itself out and as a player of a lot of tiny now-dead gachas it's hilarious to see it called a flop. But the devs need to get some confidence instead of following a checklist.

>>4426958
I only played 1.0 content since the game gives me a headache, probably due to the overly flashy effects on a big PC monitor, game would be more comfy viewed a longer distance away probably. But anyway what I did appreciate were the comfy hubs, music and the much "snappier" dialogue (atleast in hoyo standards..) it wasn't that much word-vomit and conversations actually moved fairly well. I've no clue how 2.0 has changed the game up outside of TV segments not being a thing anymore?

>>4426958
The game gradually abandoned all the things I found interesting, it's a shame because I thought it had the most potential out of all the recent hoyo games

>>4426969
I always felt like ZZZ's main stories felt too much like character quests. I feels like a smaller scaled version of Star Rail

>>4427000
I just hope Hoyo gets rid of a terrible character outfits in their games. Why do almost all the females need to have mismatched pants, sock, or leg accessories

>>4427086
Gacha outfits have always been lackluster due to the fanbases liking any form of fanservice. That means random ass holes in clothing is perfectly fine as long as it gets someone off

>>4427110
R1999 has pretty good clothes design. I love Isolde's outfit

>>4427086
I'm just begging for attached sleeves/covered shoulders and no more thin straps atached to the front, usually on a choker.

>>4427086
Because Hoyo isn't allowed to do real fanservice.

So they make due with these stupid fucking holes, side boob, thigh straps and other nonsensical designs that often dont even fit the character's role/personality. Give them the freedom to choose between real coomer shit and practical designs and you'll start seeing more of the latter.

>>4427141
R1999 is mostly played by women too. It's a whole different world.

>>4427186
I agree the random holes and straps are dumb, but I'd really hesitate to say ZZZ doesn't have real fanservice. Shit is ridiculously sexed up, from the super tight clothing and wobbling jiggle physics to the basically softcore porn illustrations. They even took the time to model Astra's abs so the player gets a sexy shot when her top flips up during combat.

>>4427194
I can't believe Astra survives that every night

>>4427198
Basically like this meme. Actually I should make a version with those two.

>>4427141
Isolde is one of the best designed gacha characters for sure. She fits that elegant theme perfectly (despite her actual character, heh)

>>4427211
What I love about R1999 is how everyone's outfit really fits the times they are from. Its rare to see a gacha game with people from different time periods and just know what era they are from based off their clothes. If only FGO was as good at that.

These two will be the death of me

>>4427194
Real fanservices are pantyshots and swimsuits anon. ZZZ is still very much within the realm of safe horny established by Fortnite and Genshin.

>>4427276
Uh, Evelyn's huge ass in skintight pants wobbling and shaking when she gets hit in that gif is way more fanservicey than a swimsuit. And half the women can be upskirt'd already, it's why there was a huge outcry when that patch momentarily made the characters go transparent when you zoomed in on them.

Astra also bounces like crazy and has an outfit where you can clearly see a string of pearls go through her cleavage and out the other side. The game is hugely sexed up anon. Thinking fanservice = beach episodes is actually a pretty outdated notion, these days it's all about passive horny that's always around.

>>4427280
Can't you look upskirt in Genshin? I'll also say you're partially right with the swimsuit comment. Arknights swimsuits are tame but when it comes to Azur Lane they blow ZZZ out the water

>>4427271
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Q17JzNEb8/
Did you see this animation?

>>4427292
Woah, looks amazing
Is that fanmade?

>>4427323
Yup, they also made this one, another corelia
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ogBMYQEyi/
A vita sparkle one
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV159tBebERP/
And a songlema one
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15z421Z7Tt/

>>4427328
That's some crazy dedication

https://www.miyoushe.com/bh3/article/64860525
Art for the dragon boat festival

OK this is a really cute reference

the only reason why Belle didn't agree was becase she's waiting for polygamy to be legalized in New Eridu

>>4427486
For each Hoyo game I swear if Shenhe, Ayaka, Jeht, and Nilou don't end up happy with Lumine I'll be pissed, if Firefly, Kafka, and March don't end up happy with Stelle I'll be pissed, and if Vivian, Ellen, and Zhu don't end up happy with Belle I'll be pissed

>>4427491
>and if Vivian, Ellen, and Zhu don't end up happy with Belle I'll be pissed
add Nicole and Jane to that list as well

Sorry if this was mentioned in the livestream but will the movie date thing in ZZZ work the same way as Genshin's hangouts, where you fail is the meter drops too 0? Also can it be used to increase the trust/bond level of a character? I'm wondering if every character will have the same options and if every character is available for this feature from the start.

>>4409642
the 'hasnt slept in days' could also have another meaning also if Pulchra is allergic to lilies, does this count as turning straight girls gay?

>>4427537

>>4427198
Astra's genes are hella strong! The kids took nothing from Evelyn!

>>4427542
according to the artist, the reason she has so many kids is because she's waiting to have a mini Evelyn

>>4409894
I don't appreciate how random they feel. If you're gonna make them a thing at least make them feel not only natural but a separate part of the game. Ningguang and Beidou, Qingque and Fu Xuan, or Navia and Clorinde all do a better job building the relationship and also having the characters still interact and feel like they are apart of the MC's stories. With these two they might as well not even be in the game with how forgettable in story they are to the plot.

>>4427538
And people pair her up with Seth

>>4427619
>having the characters still interact and feel like they are apart of the MC's stories.
This isn't a good thing.

>>4427632
What, you only like it when the entire story is always centered around your self insert? shoo shoo

>>4427632
Its not good to have characters feel like they're part of the world? Huh who would've thought

>>4427633
This retort doesn't even make sense. Bait used to at least be funny

making the wives know each other to prevent fighting

>>4427633
I'm literally saying the opposite, retard.
>>4427636
Why do you think they need to revolve around the MC to be part of the world?

>>4427640
Who said revolve? Learn to read

>>4427638
I can't tell if Belle has a cuck fetish or she wants their eyes to meet and a brawl can break out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmrGq9ElWDQ

>>4427683
I've been seeing a few fanart of these two together. Did something happen in 3.3 or is this just people pairing them together just for fun?

Happy June

Quite cute

>>4427751
Hopefully Cipher's trailer will show more about her relationship with Agy

>>4427951
What else is there to show? Honestly I'm hoping it shows more of Cipher. As of right now I don't really care about her as a character

>>4427999
Star Rail is the weakest in terms of character writing in all of Hoyo games. 90% of characters development starts and stops in their introduction story. Rarely any of them develop pass the patch in which their story is told.

>play the flower arrangement event
>complete Evelyn task
>unlock Lily (Yuri)
>...
>Burnice task
>game hardcoded you from using Lily
what does mihoyo means by this?

>>4428243
Nothing

>>4427533
>>4428243
She is? But they were around her during her pv

>>4428401
forgot pic

Posting sauce so hopefully the artist won't delete it
https://x.com/gya_ri/status/1929547544809390365

>>4428402
Furries are gross

>>4428410

>>4428437
>>4428410
Sorry didn't mean to respond to you

>>4428433
It's funny I can post purrnice in every board but /u/

>>4428555
How many other boards actually interact with the post or care? How many of them just see it as hot and don't even ship them?

After finishing Natlan I will say while nit great it wasn't as bad as people say. I'd argue that anyone that said Natlan was terrible either forgot or convinced themselves Fontaine was good. Fontaine was the first Hoyo story I couldn't bother playing through. It was the first Hoyo story I thought was downright bad. Its only saving grace is that it has likeable characters, some of those characters don't do anything in the AQ. Everything I hate about Star Rail today I hated about Fontaine

>>4428737
to be honest I only use /v/ ,/a/ and /u/ lol

I dont know....I dont hate it but I'm not feeling it either.

>>4429007
I'm a Ellen x Belle or Zhu x Belle fan. I'm not really into Vivian either

>>4429007
I really like Vivian's design but she feels like the biggest victim of the "disposable waifu" syndrome

>>4429007
>>4429183
I dont see why they gave so much attention to Vivian when not even a patch later we are going to a new region and wont interact or she wont be part of the story for a long time

>>4429183
>>4429194
The one thing I like about ZZZ it there was a running plot with characters from the beginning still being relevant.

Also it's not like they're going to a whole new county or anything, it's all one huge city. I assume certain characters will still make appearances.

Meanwhile in HSR some characters drop out of the story as soon as their banner ends (looking at Rappa)

>>4429211
I have to disagree with this. ZZZ's biggest weakest is how they tell their story with the characters. Everything feels so disconnected from each other. Most stories feel like they can take place at any part of the story and doesn't feel like they flow from 2 story to the next.

>>4429194
Yuzuha and Alice are from her school so there’s a chance

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The more I see Skirk the more I feel her design doesn't fit Genshin

>>4429622
>>4429627
I still don't know why Rosabarb isn't at least as popular as Eulamber.

>>4430067
That's what everybody was saying 18 months ago. Compared to Natlan playable characters she fits well enough.

>>4430177
Not at all. Kachina, Mualani, and Xilonen at least fit the vibe of Natlan. Skirk doesn't even fit Genshin. She belongs in Star Rail, but they already have Jingliu. Though they probably forget that they do.

>>4430067
She looks like a Honkai character on purpose as a reminder that Genshin is apart of the Honkai universe

>>4430177
>Compared to Natlan playable characters she fits well enough.
The only ones that look really out of place are Chasca and Mavuika. They're like how Cipher's design doesn't fit the new planet at all. The rest are fine. Skirk looks like a Star Rail crossover character.

>>4430181
Not sure what you mean by this. Why make a character look like she's from another game but carry 0 elements from that game in both character and story.

Am I the only one not interested in Yixuan?

>>4430216
I'm sure you're that unique in the world.

>>4430217
What???

They're still baiting these two.

>>4426958
I really like it. Love the new area and I'm genuinely looking forward to the next part of the story. So glad it wasn't a pile of dogshit like Luofu.
Only complaint I can think of atm are that the character skills are starting to get really flashy to see what's happening on screen

>>4430216
Gameplay-wise, she takes some getting used to but she's fun.

>>4430311
I like how you're baiting us by conveniently cropping out Kafka to fit your narrative

So at the end of season 1 there's Belle x Vivian.

Pretty interesting

>>4430446
Belle x Vivian is probably the Firefly x Stelle of ZZZ as of now

>>4430483
Hopefully Firefly can be as honest as Vivian eventually. Gal just straight up is honest about her desire to marry Belle

>>4430351
Isn't that pic old?

>>4430510
I like the fact that Vivian isn't one of those played for laughs characters. For example she's not like Tohru, who funnily enough has the same VA, where Belle finds her creepy or annoying. Her feelings can get the best of her but Belle is never uncomfortable around her and her love is never seen as just some gag. Vivian is the closest we've gotten to having a playable version of Jeht.

https://x.com/nukoleg/status/1931335336593863079
Vivian needs to fight hard if she wants the wife spot all for herself

>>4430601
Banshees are many things, but they are not quitters.

>>4430601
Nicole x Belle reminds me of Lumine x Amber. It may not be the biggest ship or my favorite but it will always have this comfy nostalgic feel. Like whenever I see them together again I just smile.

>>4430648
they are a good fit, girl who uses her strange powers for good while running a struggling business x mercenary opportunist with a heart of gold who constantly has money problems

>>4428401
Guess the spa uses plastic flowers.

https://youtu.be/A7c6_mh5eWQ?si=r8G08HOCMy-vrihd&t=1603
they fucking

>>4430176
iirc its partly because annoying folks scream that barbara is a minor and it scared off folks who might be interested in it who didnt want to deal with the heat

https://x.com/ZenlessWorld/status/1931404026744017148?t=nhIMmgfVvaP6_mdZqv3zCg&s=19
Can someone tell which hands are those at the end?

>>4430751
Lighter, Nekomata, Grace/Koleda, Soukaku/Yanagi, Billy/Caesar, Anby/S11

>>4430736
>Video was removed

>>4430792
The CCP got them

>>4430792
what even was it?

>>4430798
It was a compilation of animations that are either official/officially commissioned by hoyo (I'm not sure to be honest)
One of them had explicit lesbian sex (off screen though)

>>4430801
I highly doubt Hoyo would commission a lesbian sex scene shown or not

>>4430818
sucks that you missed it. Maybe someone will re-upload that part

>>4430823
Anon I never said there wasn't a video where it happened. I said I highly doubt it was commissioned by Hoyo.

Also if this implied sex scene is of this character I'm ok not seeing it

>>4430829
someone in the comments said all those videos were commisioned by hoyo. I dont really know to be honest if that''s true.
>Also if this implied sex scene is of this character I'm ok not seeing it
no she was just watching and stopping it

Did anyone actually save whatever this is? im pretty curious now

>>4430829
>I’m ok not seeing it
Go back

>>4430852
Go back where? Your mom doesn't get home until 7

>>4430786
Oh... that was excellent, hoyo...

>>4430801
Which lesbian sex?

How long before ZZZ makes Belle playable so she can actually do something? Seriously the game went a whole season where Belle barely does anything outside of talk to Wise or Fairy. I was expecting more like Stelle but we ended up getting more like Gudako

>>4430786
So the people behind it are into lesbian incest?

>>4430868
What??

>>4430868
Don't you have siblings?

>>4430868
I don't think siblings holding hands equals incest. Don't be like those Wise x Belle people

It's nice you can also choose the shop NPCs to date

>>4430934
Surprisingly, Caesar friendzone the MCs.

>>4430936
I thought she was one of the few characters that are into Wise

funny how Coco has a fanbase despite being an NPC whose shop you can't even interact with

>>4430934
>>4430941
I called it months ago but im almost kinda surprised i might be right? ZZZ is the first game of the main 3 that will end up with a full blown dating sim element complete with maybe a kiss scene or two or something similar at the end of it. They're using it to test the waters.

>>4430942
Wasn't a hot springs location leaked months ago? or was the Lycaon on bondage underwear something a fan made?

>>4430818
Hey you never know. Jane Doe may as well have fucked Tomiya in her official teaser.

>>4430937
She's definitely het but I don't think she's into Wise

>>4430934
Its crazy how much cooler NPC characters look compared to the playable characters. They all look so much more unique

>>4430943
I don't recall a hot springs thing, there was one in star rail and genshin wans't there?

>>4430942
Oh there's definitely gonna be a romance mechanic added one day. Genshin is about exploration and elemental reactions. HSR is about doing big dmg numbers. ZZZ seems to be Hoyo's waifu collector game.

>>4430954
>ZZZ seems to be Hoyo's waifu collector game.
I mean, it's the only way to pull themselves from sinking in the revenue chart

>>4430959
Except it's not really working out all that amazingly either.

>>4430965
from what I've seen, this banner has been doing just as good if not better than Miyabi's

>>4430966
This has top up reset

>>4430934
It's not like you can freely choose who to go to the movies with, it's an event. It's already decided.

>>4430823
>>4430829
https://youtu.be/aBNgzA7LxJU?si=P6I-W6Wzz16tqRit&t=1604
holy shit Purrnice sexo

>>4430971
so you have to obligatorily go on a movie date with Harumasa?

>>4430973
lol thank you

>>4430975
there's also a segment of Coco and another girl dancing for Belle to convince her to buy their stuff

>>4430973
Cool it's back
>>4430829
see?

>>4430973
Fucking gross furry shit

>>4430959
If I recall hasn't Miyabi's banner been the only one thats seen a good jump in sales. I mean last month ZZZ almost lost to R1999, which actually made me really happy to see Reverse do so well

>>4431035
>which actually made me really happy to see Reverse do so well
the writing's on the wall, if ZZZ wants to survive, they must make the yuri canon

>>4430966
I think it really helps that her and Belle have been together almost thid whole patch. Plus she already has a skin that adds more jiggle physics to her. Yixuan has a chance at even beating Skirk. Mainly because Skirk has the samw issue Jingliu has with not really being part of the story much. There's hype for Skirk but no one really knows why we should be hyped for her. I honestly forgot she was even in the Fontaine story.

>>4431039
The Rush Hour event was so much fun. I loved these two

>>4431042

>>4431044
Its also funny how a Chinese game can give us good diverse representation and yuri. More people starting to play R1999 is always great to see

>>4431042
>>4431044
>>4431045
I've been meaning to jump into it as well, would I miss anything important like a limited event if I do now?

>>4430973
Did the original seiyuus also dub this?