Youth Frontier starts on May 23rd. Will you be able to survive?

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>Cradle Planet
https://en.gundam.info/about-gundam/series-pages/witch/music/novel/

>Vanadis Heart Manga
https://www.zeonic-republic.net/?s=VANADIS+HEART

>Special Drama CD - Episode.01: What Miorine Wants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAh5ScjxH5g
>Drama CDs part 1-2
https://mega.nz/folder/YpMR2IAC#NyjE6N__hG-Cit7J9yWtuQ

>Suletta & Miorine Japan Tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHUmRo3MzCE
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P5B9vgi2EUey86UWRPQ7EJr40n40j590p-GiDFJo-ZE/htmlview#

>Light Novel
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>Doujinshi folder
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>Doujin Anon's ko-fi
https://ko-fi.com/thatanon

>All About Mercury ZIP
https://mega.nz/file/REdEmYJC#USI-CHp48bDKvqnNdZuaI7oWKLw7zTEHnHejXRI1ia0
>Accompanying TL Notes
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RPIKat-pn2KzCvy6PZzZHtByfigJApNd/view

>Misc Translations (including the School Assembly Drama CD)
https://roguemaki.tumblr.com/gwitch
>Translated MajoRaji snippets:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn9KxueQgEUcvoaMHaJdcMgsfhJBJvygQ
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLueB-DN62sJtDMY6xSpbF7Vs6p1eyc7Ib

>SuleMio comics translated and typeset on /u/
https://mega.nz/folder/B7sBQR6a#C_H3QF5Tvj4U8FdkgbqiuA

>Asticassia School Festival BD rips
https://mega.nz/folder/QvkFHADZ#abreWiPFwRTmtEQfHJWWbQ
>School Festival Drama CD (parent directory contains WfM-related scans, including non-/u/ doujins)
https://mega.nz/folder/wLcRxD6a#q7L818Ixfxn6terqdTwF0Q/folder/oeUGUB7J

>>4418339 (OP)
The thumbnail looks like Suletta eating out Mio's ass.

>>4418334
Literally we’re about to get a manga featuring SuleMio how dense are you?

Reservations start from 12:00 on Wednesday, May 21st!
>2way acrylic stand
>Acrylic noodle stopper

>>4418273
Y'know it's funny, actually. Yeah, both relationships are shallow, but in different ways. Shuji/Machu you get the sense they're underdeveloped either because it's ultimately unimportant thematically, or because of the normalization of hetshit not needing any actual development. Could go either way right now.

Machu/Nyan on the other hand, feels quite purposefully shallow. Their friendship is extremely tenuous, and while it's yet to be examined textually, there's both a lot of environmental clues and subtextual themes which sets them very much at-odds.
It puts the whole bullshit of haters going, "Oh, they have so much more chemistry than SuleMio!" in even starker relief; they don't just not have chemistry, they have /anti/-chemistry. Right now they're at a point where their already shallow relationship has been frayed, and we see they both potentially want to make up, but where would they go from there? They share a common desire for "Freedom," and have found it in the Newtype-Sparklies, but they come into seeking that freedom from polar opposite directions. Machu is a rich kid whose entire life has been primed for success, but she's sheltered and at a point in her life where that just feels suffocating. Nyan on the other hand has had everything taken from her, having to crawl her way back up from nothing, doggedly working towards everything Machu takes for granted.
Say they reconciled, Shuji were removed from the picture, they got the chance to develop a proper relationship between them... I think they'd be genuinely terrible for each other, super toxic, and not even in a fun way.

>>4418365
I still wonder how they’ll tie in the Newtype theme for this.

The best example would be Char and Amuro: where despite having the psychic ability to understand each other, it ultimately came to the conclusion that Char has become too broken to be reasoned with and Amuro spends his final moments being utterly confused

NyaChu patriots, are we still in control?

>>4418370
Deux kills the twink next week.

>>4418365
I think you're overinterpreting Machu's hostility being towards Nyaan rather than towards her situation.
Even immediately after, Machu is pondering on two different occasions that she probably fucked up and was in the wrong for having an outburst. She's just a teenager acting out when she felt her position being threatened.
It's the same reason she is acting out against her mom. She knows her mom cares for her and she loves her too and was happy she would come to the parent teacher meeting but she is unable to verbalize what she actually wants to her while simultaneously feeling incredibly pressured by her.
Machu's core conflict is something like finding her place in the world, a very typical teenager coming of age story and she's just venting as a hormonal teenager would.

Nyaan is her foil, she wants everything Machu has, a family, a normal school life, friends, stability, safety. Her mom is paying for her cram school she doesn't want to go to and Nyaan wants to go to college but doesn't have the means to. Yet Machu is still deeply unsatisfied. It'll clearly be part of her character arc that she had everything but did not appreciate it and if she won't learn from it she will lose everything. That's going to be her core character flaw.
They literally spelled it out in episode 4. Shiiko had her perfect family and lost it all because she couldn't overcome her obsession.

>>4418382
Also regarding Shuji, I think the show is going out of the way to show that he is a dangerous obsession rather than a real love interest. There was a scene where she complained about her mom being too mundane and it's juxtaposed to the scene immediately after where she's idolizing him for being abnormal.
He's her gateway. There's no development of the relationship because it's not a relationship and Shuji clearly has other things in mind.

>>4418382
>and if she won't learn from it she will lose everything.
Machu shouldn't get punished for being a bored and understimulated teen. I don't want her to lose her mom so she can "learn" to be grateful, it would come off as your typical "learn your place" and "don't defy they status quo" they nips love

>>4418466
She should get punished for being a hetshit.

>>4418466
In UC Gundam, that sort of issues can also end up moot due to the conflicts humanity ends up with. So when things escalate and the characters are forced to fight in life or death situations, it becomes a question on what happens next

Popping in to say I'm alive and still doing this. Sorry for the delay. I spent the past month stuck abroad with no pc.

>>4418473
So is Nyaan and all they women in the show. Charia is the gay character of the show

>>4418370
I still believe 100% that their relationship will be thematically important.
This episode even repeated that the Nomolen Nolemon song (https://youtu.be/73stcwZC9vk?si=184hN2G0p7gQ8W-e) is their leitmotif and the shrine on the highrise building is their set.

>>4418532
Cope

>>4418354
Don't mind the clown sis.

>>4418509
God bless yo/u/. I thought you were gone after 4chan's incident.

>>4418538
Now now, there's no need to act like that, anon.

>>4418369
I think Nyaan and Machu will make a positive Newtype connection. Otherwise it's all been so negative. Newtypes have been characterized by killing, obsession and selfishness, when the ideal is to connect with another person and understand them.

>>4418382
That's a pretty good analysis, but I think the show is more sympathetic to Machu than that. It's not exactly fun to be the daughter of absentee parents who pressure you to do well academically when you just feel lost in life.

I would look forward to Machu and Nyaan bonding if I thought they were actually friends but outside of seeing the hanging out they have 3 on screen conversations between the two. What do they have in common exactly? Their friendship was supposed to be a major factor in the anime but it's halfway over and I find it hard to believe that Machu actually cares about Nyaan.

>>4418660
Sorry we had to put it offscreen because we needed one episode for Char wank

>>4418382
I don't really think Machu has any hostility towards Nyan, outside the current jealousy over her being a Newtype too? I'm not really talking about either of them being hostile to the other, so much as their opposing circumstances being a hotbed for potential conflict between them.

Of course, there's every chance I'm overestimating that just the same. Like, with how I'm interpreting their friendship as tenuous and shallow, I'm presuming they're largely ignorant of each other's circumstances. But I talked about environmental storytelling, and that presumption ignores a couple such details, like Nyan meeting Machu outside her rich girls school, or Machu's aggression towards cops entirely for Nyan's sake. So if the conflicts I'm imagining hampering or negatively impacting the potential development of their relationship have already largely been dealt with, and I'm supposed to be presuming their relationship isn't quite as shallow as I've gotten the impression thus far, then that swings back around to issues with the show's writing being super rushed and leaving a lot of development off-screen.

>>4418665
I think your points in the second paragraph are right and they're supposed to be pretty close. No matter how much you hate ICE, you probably wouldn't kick one of them in the balls for a casual buddy.

>>4418661
Enokido bringing back one-episode wonders and hated assholes is so much more fun than the Char fanfic.

>>4418665
I think Nyan might like Machu a lot more than Shuji, during the fight in episode 5 the reaction between Nyan and Shuji, Nyan seems to act indifferent. Even in the last episode Nyan said she did everything for Machu. Also Shuji also somehow likes Nyan more than Machu because the Red Comet Gundam likes Nyan more. And Nyan doesn’t really care when Shuji told her that he liked her, she was too buy depressed and thinking about Machu.

This feels like grasping but it’s something I genuinely observed in the last episode.

>>4418556
There's a difference with being to connect with people and understanding them to actually reaching a mutual agreement. That's why despite having Newtype abilities it becomes a coinflip

>>4418404
Awkward butch lesbian Garroda becoming autistic cutie Tiffa's knight would have healed the wounds in my soul.

>>4418791
It might go achieving understanding > newtype connection > a kind of kirakira without having to pilot murder robots.

>>4415195
I'm obsessed. Amu calls her oneesama again.

(They survive and are fighting over which of them would have been the prettier corpse in the next scene.)

>>4418509
I saw this and thought it looked familiar. It feels so strange seeing a TL of mine on paper, thanks for doing this!

Delay or not the strange death of 4chan made me worry about a lot regarding the typesetting. Thanks for your work once again!

>>4418939
Super cute.

>>4418939
Friends in heaven? How about pussy kissing pals....

>>>4418918
That's not really how the Primary or Alternate Primary UC setting works.

There's also ranks, glad to see that Suletta's wife is doing good.

girl best friends

Why did anon say the spin-off manga is free? Is it true that its free?

Anon who is typesetting doujins, did you see what happened with MangaDex?

>>4419379
Who knows, we're going to read someone's copy or a scanlation anyway.

>>4419386
I don't think they took down any doujins.

>the writer of wfm youth frontier is Miorine fan
We don't have to worry

>>4419474
You thought it was gonna be Suletta and Miorine alone? No other characters?

>>4419481
He's a troll. Report and ignore.

sulemio is always trending

>>4419497
Sophinore

Miorine being jealous of Suletta and Sophie would be nice

I want Eri to be the sister that is studying abroad and Suletta talks about and then she comes back and starts bullying Mio instantly

>>4419516
Sophie becomes Suletta's self-described little sister after defeat and keeps hanging with the crew. She gets extra clingy whenever Miorine is around.

>>4419386
Yeah. Like the other anon said though, doujins didn't seem to be included. It's a bit concerning for the scene in general though, especially if the DMCAs keep coming and any of the spin-off manga get hit.

>しかし、まさか公式的にきつねとたぬきになろううとは……。

https://x.com/ichirou_o/status/1923304011769192663

>>4419488
Their power is unmatched, even something simple like a cup noodle collab spawned hundreds of fanarts

>>4419481
A gal can dream.
Though I also want Chuchu. And Felsi.

>>4419482
It was but that's a little harsh.

We need actually furshit instead of cowardly kemonomimi, do it Bandai

>sulemio's rings are on sale
>again
Neat

I hope Sabina has fangirls in the AU.

Too many lesbians to choose.

>>4419634
>I never expected that they would officially become a fox and a tanuki
Oh? you mean someone requested it? I wonder how did this happen.

Do you think we will see Suletta's aunties again alive?

>>4419951
That'd be interesting. Will her home life be normal in this AU? Will her dad be alive? Will her mom still be a Shakespearian villain?

https://x.com/STRICTGodaiba/status/1923665095844057525
>The silver rings from Sletta and Miorine are designed to be stacked together
That word again!

>>4419911
I don't know, I only wanted to share Okouchi's tweet.

>>4419953
Yeah, with less than a week for the release, share your predictions.

Do you think they'll be in the same class?
How will they meet?
Does this setting have the duel system?

>>4420008
>Bandai: best friend rings of course!

>>4420202
I don't remember that they called them bestfriends.

>>4420211
She's able to be so versatile in those pantyhose... Those must be some premium nylons for them to never run or get nicked from movements.

All art of SuMio being affectionate at Asticassia is fun in that there isn't a single episode it could have happened. You just really wish it could have.

>>4420378
I mean there were weeks off camera between some of the episodes in S1. But I do agree their relationship wasn't at the point of anything explicitly romantic yet.

>>4420378
The closest thing would be the scooter ride, but their romantic moment is episode 11.

>>4420378
The betrayal was a mistake.

>>4420409
Me neither because Miorine did it based on hypothetical questions. Still, it was really appreciated to see how much Miorine was willing to do for Suletta's happiness.

>>4420412
On top of how flimsy its justification/execution felt (even given Miorine's fragile state at the time), it also took away a lot of Season 2's intrigue (especially when it became clear that the show was only going to be 24 episodes) and of course meant that there would be next to zero scenes of Suletta and Miorine working together to overcome conflicts, which was a big part (arguably the biggest) of what made the first cour so good. The juice of their reunion also wasn't close to being worth the squeeze, in my opinion.

>>4420409
Yeah, worst subplot in the show and that's saying something given S2. It serves basically no purpose narratively other than creating a reason why the girls can't be together until the ending arc. Obligatory reminder that SuleMio are only together for like 4 episodes of the entire second half.

>>4420415
And yet they are at the forefront of each other's minds the entire time.

>>4420416
Yeah, but that's still a huge downgrade from S1 where they were actively working together and bonding for the entire run.

>>4420409
I think the betrayal is fie, her Dad did do bad things to them and she probably thinks Suletta need to separate her bad mom. The problem is they handled Suletta so badly in s2.

>>4420419
betrayal is fine*

>>4420419
I think the depressed Suletta eating ham out of the fridge in the middle of the night was good but it lasted an episode too long imo

>>4420378
Any time between like Episode 7 and Episode 11

>>4420409
Nah, the betrayal was good. Being able to manipulate Miorine into doing that is what makes Prospera a great villain and it's what S1 logically led to. All those scenes of Miorine being a cool girlboss with Suletta as her loyal retainer? Cute and also a terrible basis for a relationship.

>>4420555
Absolutely not. Miorine refuses Suletta's hug in 8 in a rather mean way and she's cold to her again when they reunite in 10. The most affectionate she gets is when she lays her head against Suletta's back while calling her an idiot. There's no way they were cuddly and flirty between 9 and 10.

>>4420420
Boob sizes need to be swapped but Nyaan being so much taller than Machu is cute.

>>4420555
What's wrong with 11?

>>4420597
They leave Asticassia for space. Miorine only returns there once and isn't in a very cuddly mood.

>>4420378
>>4420583
I feel like there's a decent possibility of void space between 9 and 10?

>Miorine refuses Suletta's hug in 8 in a rather mean way.
Disagree, it was cute. Also they were around other people and she's a Tsundere.

>>4420448
The issue really is Guel frankly.

We get Miorine's betrayal, and in the immediate aftermath, Suletta puts up a facade of coping, which gets broken after the rest of her family betrays her too, leading to her catatonia until her friends snap her out of it. This is all good. It flows well, develops her relationships and character, and sets up her subsequent actions... problem being, those actions are delayed by an episode where plot largely just happens around her with no ability for her to affect anything. Which isn't entirely bad per se, as her helplessness makes for excellent dramatic irony after her family's claims of acting in her best interests. The problem imo, is that focus is then put on Guel getting to be the hero of the hour taking down Shaddiq, while Suletta spends most of the episode knocked out; the irony could have perhaps been better emphasized by having more ground-level PoV with her.

The issue of emphasizing Guel to Suletta's detriment crops up again with the fencing duel in 22, which really doesn't do anything for Suletta's character, just gives Guel a moment to tie a neat little bow on his arc that I couldn't care less about.

AND OF COURSE there's the complete waste of time that is 15.

>>4420640
I don't think even Guel is a problem as such. His job is to be there to show why Miorine was wrong to think she could replace Suletta as her partner (as in primary ally) with someone who has resources and no emotional connection with her.

The real problem is episode 21 not being sufficiently clear about Guel fucking up the stand-off with Shaddiq and not showing enough of Suletta helping the survivors on the ground. The latter is a major turning point for her character, but it happens mostly off-screen and is handled pretty stupidly because they needed to shoehorn Petra in to justify the upcoming Lauda drama.

Hmm okouichi is still using gwitch banner...

>>4420644
That is basically what I said, though I didn't complain about Petra's presence and the subsequent Lauda conflict since that whole thing at least served as a foil for Suletta and Ericht's conflict.

But even then, I could have done without it; the issue again ties back into the writing seeming compelled to have Guel doing /something/ even if it's ultimately unnecessary. But at least this last superfluous feature served Suletta's character in some fashion (plus we got Felsi's meme moment)

Just reminder that felsi's seiyuu ships sulemio so do not bully her.

>>4420648
Well it is the last successful show he worked on.

>>4420597
Suletta isn’t in her school uniform.

>>4420640
Guel doesn’t have anything to do with it, you spend too much time om twitter

>>4420675
>Isn't in her school uniform
?

>>4420583
>Being able to manipulate Miorine into doing that is what makes Prospera a great villain and it's what S1 logically led to.
Yeah, I really like Prospera because she took her chance and manipulated Miorine into joining the election, the last minutes of episode 16 are too kino. Though, I feel Miorine's IQ dropped for plot's sake.

>The most affectionate she gets is when she lays her head against Suletta's back while calling her an idiot.
Yes anon, in episode 24 she called Suletta idiot and hugged her.

Btw, I think I know that artist, but would you mind sharing the source?

>>4420640
>that focus is then put on Guel getting to be the hero of the hour taking down Shaddiq, while Suletta spends most of the episode knocked out; the irony could have perhaps been better emphasized by having more ground-level PoV with her.
Episode 20 pissed me off because of that same reason. It's funny most people agreed with Sabina and Shaddiq during Guel's "hero moment", or worse, Guel never showed regret or faced any consequences over the fact his actions ended in students dying, kek. I agree with the other anon, her development was off-screen.
Funny to think Suletta and Miorine don't appear in episodes 15 and 20, the Guel-centered ones.

>The issue of emphasizing Guel to Suletta's detriment crops up again with the fencing duel in 22, which really doesn't do anything for Suletta's character
I don't know, you can see Suletta's development, she sounds so determined when she accepts the duel; compare how she said the duel vow in episode 3 with how she did in episode 22.
I find annoying the duel, but we can see Suletta's change, and she looks sexo. MioMio lucky desu.

>>4420418

>>4420836
>I feel Miorine's IQ dropped for plot's sake.
I get that, but I think it's justified by Prospera just being that good. She gets Miorine to always worry about the wrong thing, like the election, her making Suletta do something fucked up or her joining up with Shaddiq. Meanwhile, Miorine has no idea QZ is already finished.

>would you mind sharing the source?
https://bsky.app/profile/andiedraws.bsky.social/post/3lp3ijwiv2s27

>Guel never showed regret or faced any consequences over the fact his actions ended in students dying
Lauda attacks him partially because Petra got injured, but it could have been handled better. Then again, that would have met him getting even more screentime during episodes that were already rushed.

>the duel
I think it was pretty good. You had to put some kind of a pin on their relationship after all their duels and parallel storylines, and this was clean, fast and memorable.

>>4420851
nta but WFM will forever be that frustrating 7/10 that could have been a 10/10 goat because of the fumbled second half. The fan works are nice though.

Why don't existing Gundam fans like WfM as much?

>>4420583
>Being able to manipulate Miorine into doing that is what makes Prospera a great villain
No, what makes Prospera a great villain is that she is able to do a bunch of bad things that continue to escalate with the stakes of the plot while actually ostensibly being justified in her actions basically every time. It's fine to talk about how conceptually great it is for Prospera to manipulate someone who is as intelligent, savvy, and suspicious as Miorine has been shown to be, but when it actually just translates on-screen to Miorine temporarily having a room temp IQ for 3/4 of a season and repeatedly stepping on rakes that are out in the open, it's not particularly compelling television in my opinion. Especially since, because the core of the conflict is so manufactured and tenuous, the one time Suletta and Mio interact before Mio decides to go through with the betrayal has to be cut short by her blowing a gasket and running off so that they don't resolve the main issue by talking things out like they did in episode 11.

>All those scenes of Miorine being a cool girlboss with Suletta as her loyal retainer? Cute and also a terrible basis for a relationship.
I'm not sure you paid very close attention to how their relationship actually developed throughout S1.

The betrayal was just a pretty boring and predictable direction to take the narrative. Just because something "makes sense" doesn't mean it's interesting. People were anticipating it since like episode 4, meaning its execution was that much more important, and it simply wasn't done in a particularly interesting way imo. The betrayal also has other issues, like how it shines a spotlight on the show's particularly scant world-building with the presidential race and how awkwardly it constrains Suletta's character development and the order of other important events, which of course wasn't helped by how rushed the whole season was.

>>4420862
Well it's barely a Gundam

>>4420864
I'm with you anon. People talk up Prospera as this manipulative genius, but she really mostly talks about her plans in vague enough terms people can misconstrue and insert their own interpretation in there. Her somehow getting to talk to Miorine alone and making her panic by namedropping Delling and Quiet Zero isn't some grand plan, it's the writers realizing the only way this next arc can work is if Miorine jumps the gun and overreacts so that's what's gonna happen.

>>4420862
Its loudest voices aren't exactly known for their receptiveness for new things. But plenty of old fans like it just fine.

>>4420864
>so that they don't resolve the main issue by talking things out like they did in episode 11.
They had to talk things out in 11 because Miorine didn't have the social skills to show Suletta she'd missed her after months of separation and didn't even notice she was devastated by it. Her fumbling a far more difficult situation where Suletta wasn't giving the kinds of signs she hoped for isn't at all surprising.

>>4420868
wha? bullshit

>>4420862
They do, it was a huge success, that couldn't have happened without the existing Gundam fans also liking it, much less producing another AU (well, alternate AU) Gundam series that's a bit similar to WfM immediately right after it, I don't remember that ever happening before, and I'm a long time Gundam fan, usually AU series are quite different from each others if they aren't direct sequels like Seed Destiny or the Build stuff.
I would ignore the vocal minority bitching about WfM, they aren't real Gundam fans they just want borderline yaoi garbage and I'm very glad that Gundam is finally moving the fuck away from that.

>>4420862
The reactionary/anti-reactionary culture war nonsense aside, I think the sad and simple truth is that there simply isn't a whole lot there for fans who don't like yuri and didn't fall in love with the MS designs. The show only got one 24 episode run (which is basically unheard of for a proper AU) and was very rushed as a result, and the way in which its conflict escalated and concluded, combined with lackluster world-building, leaves any potential sequels or side stories in a very awkward spot. I think something that isn't talked about enough is how the reveal of QZ being a solar system-threatening superweapon instead of something of slightly lesser consequence (while still being very personal) hurt the narrative and AU as a whole. I get that they probably really wanted the cool scene of Suletta going permet score 69 and turning the SAL super laser gay, which was admittedly very cool, but it ultimately was kinda hollow at the end of the day.

>>4420869
Yeah, when it was airing, I was kinda hoping that Mio would chicken out of the betrayal at the last minute and then actually have to deal with the consequences Prospera going through with her promise of making Suletta kill more for the sake of her plan and we could get more on how they navigate through that together (although given what we know about what her plan actually was, I guess it was more or less just a bluff on Prospera's part).

>>4420870
>Her fumbling a far more difficult situation where Suletta wasn't giving the kinds of signs she hoped for isn't at all surprising.
I don't particularly care about arguing whether something is surprising or not (in fact, I literally said one of the betrayal's main issues is how predictable and unsurprising the whole conflict and its resolution was). Ultimately, people can argue about whether or not something works or makes sense until the cows come home because, among other things, suspension of disbelief is very subjective. I care more about whether a development leads the narrative in a more interesting or satisfying direction, which, for reasons that I laid out, I don't think the betrayal does.

To go at it from a more meta perspective, when the first season of your two season show is built almost exclusively on the foundation of your two leads growing closer as they learn to work through a bunch of different conflicts together, you better have a good and interesting reason to then split them up for the majority of the 2nd season and execute it well. None of this is helped by the other issues season 2 has going on.

>>4420872
What Prospera would have done if Miorine didn't go along with her plan is a fun question. Most of what she does is about revenge, since all she needs is to steal Aerial and destroy the Gundam storage. I like to think she'd have congratulated her on being a good bride and told her to make Suletta happy as she escapes on Aerial.

>>4420876
>To go at it from a more meta perspective, when the first season of your two season show is built almost exclusively on the foundation of your two leads growing closer as they learn to work through a bunch of different conflicts together, you better have a good and interesting reason to then split them up for the majority of the 2nd season and execute it well. None of this is helped by the other issues season 2 has going on.

I'll keep saying this until the end of time. Season 1 had a pretty predictable pattern but it worked damn well. It's basically four miniature arcs put together. A new challenger appears to contest the girls/aerial -> they work together to overcome it -> flashy and cool mech battle. It's simple but it works. Season 2 deciding to completely scrap that pattern and cook up a grand overarching plotline that's way too elaborate for just 12 episodes WHILE also choosing to sideline the main duo for almost the entire thing is such a baffling and dumb move.

>>4420862
/m/ are not real gundam fans.

>>4420878
She still needed Suletta to unlock permet score 8 (or was it 10?), and I think she still wanted to inflict revenge on Delling through Miorine in some fashion, but it's definitely a very interesting route to think about. I think a big part of what continues to make GWitch so compelling for me (aside from the obvious) is thinking about what could have been.

>>4420880
Yeah, a lot of people say that season 1 was paced way too slow, but I always felt that it was actually almost too fast, where the characters have next to no time to breathe and interact outside of an immediate conflict. I think each little arc also served the overall plot in a very satisfying way and I felt that the intrigue continued to escalate up until episode 12 with Aerial Rebuild's sortie and the splat. Season 2 felt like it was both incredibly slow and rushed at the same time. After the splat, it felt like the cast had just about outgrown Asticassia and we were due for a significant expansion of the world/shake-up of the formula in some manner or another. However, next to zero significant major players are introduced throughout season 2 that I can think of off the top of my head. (>inb4 the sal), and we are left to suffer through two repetitive school shootings while a large portion of the principal cast is confined to various rooms for most of the season. There is good development for some characters, but Suletta's development is criminally hamstrung by the circumstances and timing of the betrayal and the order of events related to Miorine's own regression and redevelopment, and the pay-off simply isn't worth it.

>>4420880
>baffling and dumb move
I realize >>4420876 will find this uncompelling, but pointing to genre conventions should show why I don't consider it either.

That is, these are well-established conventions in anime and romance stories. Lots of anime have a fun first half followed by something more dramatic and sad that upends everything. That's your Eva, Utena, Trigun, Little Witch Academia, what have you. It's a distinctively Japanese way of structuring a tv show.

Similarly, most romance stories will separate the lovers so they can go through character development, think about their feelings for the other person and then commit to staying together, while the audience desperately yearns for them to get back together. This part certainly worked on /u/.

Suletta's separation arc was good but somewhat hamstrung by how ep 20 was handled, but Miorine's was great. The realization that many of the seemingly positive things she did in S1 were bad for her (becoming part of the game, thinking she could do good inside Benerit, coming to see her dad's POV), learning she's out of her depth, the crash, their wonderful reunion. I think it was worth it, though they needed one more sweepingly romantic scene.

>>4420887
>I think she still wanted to inflict revenge on Delling through Miorine in some fashion
Yeah, but the revenge is psychological. She manipulates Miorine into doing to Suletta what her dad did to her, partly to protect her, partly because she wanted QZ for herself, and then makes her a butcher. If she was a pure maiden who refused to take those initial steps, I don't think Prospera would have found hurting her satisfying. She probably justified breaking Suletta's heart as just revealing Mio's true colors.

>>4420901
>That is, these are well-established conventions in anime and romance stories. Lots of anime have a fun first half followed by something more dramatic and sad that upends everything. That's your Eva, Utena, Trigun, Little Witch Academia, what have you. It's a distinctively Japanese way of structuring a tv show.

But was the second half even that sad and dramatic? Outside of Norea and Sophie who had huge death flags anyway, basically no named characters died and the entire conflict was neatly wrapped up by the last episode. I can respect the emotional swerve, but when the ending tone is actually everything turned out good and the cast sails off into the sunset it makes the DRAMATIC SEPARATION ARC even more questionable looking back. The drama is largely an illusion is what I'm trying to get at. Even episode 15 where they went full war is hell man was never relevant again.

>>4420901
>This part certainly worked on /u/.
I'm pretty sure it worked on /u/ in the sense that most people wanted the series to move past an extremely tired genre convention and get back to what made the first season so great before it ran out of runtime (especially as it became increasingly clear 24 episodes is all we were getting). A drawn-out separation arc that doesn't come off as the writers padding out their word count/runtime and copping out of actually writing good relationship development is a rare thing, especially when the series ends shortly after the reunion.

Also, it's not like there was a whole lot of romantic development before season 2. Episode 11 (which was precipitated by a small separation period already) felt like they had finally reached the starting line of a proper romantic relationship, and they were immediately separated again afterwards before reuniting briefly, just so that the "proper" separation arc to finally begin.

>Yeah, but the revenge is psychological.
I'm pretty sure she was very much planning to kill Mio along with Delling and whoever else was at Benerit HQ when QZ got in range. I think she would have found taking Delling's child from him after he took everything from her satisfying enough, regardless of if Mio said yes or no to the betrayal. She's more than intelligent enough to understand that Delling probably values Mio's life more than anything else.

4 days to go before the spin off manga.

>>4420940
Nah, the prevailing mood wasn't a dispassionate "I'm afraid this once promising narrative is on the wrong track". You don't get a thousand replies a week or whatever it was if that's how people are responding. People were emotionally involved with everything that happened to the girls and were ecstatic once they reunited.

>I'm pretty sure she was very much planning to kill Mio along with Delling
Going to Benerit HQ wasn't part of the original plan. She needed to go back for the thingamajig Guston and Bel managed to steal from Plant Quetta.

Trying to get them with the massive superweapon would have been dumb, since they had ample warning and were already evacuating L4. She had a perfect chance to kill Miorine back on Earth and left her to stew in her own failure instead.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/baby_bed
It's nice how many translated SuleMio doujins we've been getting, even outside /u/.

Should Nyaan and Machu adopt Deux Murasame as their daughter?

>>4421322
Only if she kills Shuji.

>>4420851
Thanks! Turns out I did not know that artist, lel.

>>4421074
>You don't get a thousand replies a week or whatever it was if that's how people are responding. People were emotionally involved with everything that happened to the girls and were ecstatic once they reunited.
Well, there's a huge difference between watching the show airing and rewatching it. When you rewatch the show you notice some lazy writing; like some anons said, the betray required Miorine overreacting to Prospera's "manipulation", personally I would've bought Miorine's actions if they have brought up Sophie's death in the greenhouse instead of the hypothetical scenarios.
I still love WfM, even with its frustrating flaws. Maybe the separation arc would've worked if the show had more episodes.

>>4421308
Based. I wonder if Gouma-den would be interested in translating Youth Frontier.

>>4421074
>Nah, the prevailing mood wasn't a dispassionate "I'm afraid this once promising narrative is on the wrong track".
There was definitely plenty of that, for reasons both related and unrelated to the betrayal itself. Are we really going to pretend that there wasn't constant bitching and moaning about Guel and episode 15 from the moment it aired? S2's narrative had plenty of other issues that were apparent even before the whole thing had finished, and I even mostly like Guel's S2 arc (the Lauda and Shaddiq stuff aside).

>You don't get a thousand replies a week or whatever it was if that's how people are responding
With how many schizos and shitposters the thread was infested by while it was airing, I don't think the actual contents of the show mattered that much when it came to how many posts each thread was reaching.

>Going to Benerit HQ wasn't part of the original plan.
She still needed to actually get revenge on Delling, whether that was before or after QZ was fully realized. It's not like it even really matters if they evacuate, since presumably Eri could figure out wherever they are in the solar system and disable any means of resistance at any range once she becomes God.

>>4421465
NTA.

>Are we really going to pretend that there wasn't constant bitching and moaning about Guel and episode 15 from the moment it aired?
No one denies the "bitching and moaning" regarding the Jobturks, how come the two main characters don't appear in two episodes?
Episode 15 only exists because Miorine needed an ally for the betrayal, and Shaddiq and Peil were blacklisted. Guel's "arc", especially episode 15, was a waste of time. There were other characters who needed more screentime, like the "antagonists" Shaddiq and Prospera.

>With how many schizos and shitposters the thread was infested by while it was airing.
There were schizos, but even the tourists mentioned how /u/ had a better discussion than other boards. Still, don't you remember how we went crazy with episode's 22 chink leaks + that frame leak?

Isn't the new show yuri?? Why is there no dedicated thread to it

>>4421494
This is the thread.

>>4421495
But this is for G-Witch, no?

>>4421494
>Isn't the new show yuri??
Anon... I...

>>4421494
You got baited by people who baited themselves for no reason.

Is it bad that I'm hoping Deux and Machu's dynamic sparks something like Sabinika?

>>4421494
It's not yuri.
>>4421514
I also don't get them.

>>4420871
>another AU (well, alternate AU) Gundam
GQsomething isn't that different from what's come before. We'll see where it goes, but so far the scenario is leaning heavily on the (main) Zeon Gihren's Greed route, right down to the Titans returning. I wouldn't be surprised to see elements from Tomino's 0079 novel specifically Char toppling the Zabis by using Kycilia against Gihren creep in too, especially if it gets a more traditional second season. The Origin was already a soft AU, so I'm not surprised they went with Zeon wins lol. It's better than yet another UC spinoff that boils down to
>zeon was right but they had to be evil in the 70s to sell toys and because Tomino wanted a morality play about the pacific war
There's a lot of ground for actual spinoffs from the new show if it does well, since you don't have the corrupt yet surviving Federation monolith still standing to arrest progress in the setting.

>>4421494
It's not Yuri the two main character are both girls and supposedly are good friends but so far they've had like 4 on screen conversations and I don't think Mashu cares much about Nyaan.

Macheux SOON

>>4421523
Even when Machu potentially kills her, Deux will do more for shippers than that traitor Ny**n

>>4421514
>baited by people
>baited themselves
Let's not get ahead of ourselves, /a/.

>>4421529
>End Credits
And the show itself barely shows them interacting. Literally the only stuff they do past episode 1 is a montage and scenes that fail the bechdel test.

Nigga this is on you

>>4421523
Unironically, might happen. The fact that Deux might follow the character archetypes of Four already gives it the most stocks of any ship.

>>4421520
Anon, Zeon always were space Nazis. Just because Federation became increasingly shittier (and Victory being made during a depressive episode to guarantee that nothing will ever improve) doesn't mean they should win. Quite realistic, desu.

>>4421523
Seeing as the previews show Nyaan and Shuji interacting while the GQuuuuuux and Red Gundam are near to each other.

I am wondering how Machu gets her Gundam again or perhaps she gets involved with Deux and the Psycho

>>4421538
>Zeon always were space Nazis
They really aren't and people take Gihren as Space Hitler too seriously. The course of the OYW is based on the pacific war, the rivalry between Gihren and Kycilia is a stand-in for the insane IJN-IJA rivalry, Garma's death is a pretty clear commentary on the futility of kamikaze and how they were used for domestic propaganda and Degwin's mix of ultimate responsibility for the war with vague personal pacifism, growing disenchantment with the human cost of the war and effective absence from government despite being the basis of it is very clearly based on Hirohito. There is literally nothing nazi about the beliefs that the Zabis claim to hold, least of all the fact that Degwin is nominally an absolute monarch. The most "extreme" view that they hold is that spacenoids are better because they thrived in a harsher enviroment while the corrupt federation grew fat off the earth as a pleasure planet, which is a propaganda turn around of iirc the federation deporting the poor to the colonies.

>>4421521
I think she does care for her, otherwise she wouldn't have kicked the cops for her.
The show does seem to intentionally and visually lean on the fact that they haven't had a real emotional connection yet, I think that's gonna be a plot point. It's gonna be a push and pull kind of relationship they'll probably end up fighting each other with their overpowered gundams before reconnecting.

>>4421531
Nah, hetshits are at fault, they always are. Yurichads only believe in the true principle that says two girls who bump into each other will inevitably fall in love.

>>4421538
>>4421542
Zeon always were Imperial Japan with a Nazi coat of Paint.

and they are also in the wrong

>>4421550
Yeah, Machu and Deux will. That immigrant bitch is hetslop industry plant

>>4421454
>the betray required Miorine overreacting to Prospera's "manipulation",
I think people are overestimating Miorine. She does great against fellow students in S1, but all her interactions with the real sharks just end in her doing exactly what Delling and Prospera want her to do and not even realizing she's fulfilling their agenda until S2.

>>4421465
Of course people discussed all aspects of the show, and of course /u/ didn't like episodes that focused on a guy. My point is, it was all very passionate and in the ways clearly intended. We were angry at Miorine at first, followed by sympathy when she watched that dumb video of Suletta, etc. The passion's what attracted the schizos and trolls, rather than it being created by them. It wasn't like that concurrent golf anime that forgot its lesbian stuff in the second half and /u/ just stopped watching and posting.

>>4421539
Nyaan inherits the Red Gundam after Deux does what needs to be done.

>>4421542
They're based on both Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. Their iconography and uniforms are Germanic and Degwin explicitly compares Gihren to Hitler. In the same scene, Gihren presents the genocide of the unworthy as his solution to overpopulation, which is more in line with Nazi eugenics than Imperial Japan.

>>4421555
>Their iconography and uniforms are Germanic
It's pretty much the helmet and arguably the flag
>Degwin explicitly compares Gihren to Hitler
From what I remember, Gihren's response is that Hitler was a middle ages (pre-UC) leader whose national/racial politics no longer fit the conditions of the current era.
>Gihren presents the genocide of the unworthy as his solution to overpopulation, which is more in line with Nazi eugenics than Imperial Japan
Not really. They were both colonialists and the nazis were agrarian revivalists who had little concept of an internal inferior class except the mentally retarded. They regarded everything but overpopulation as underpopulation and that the solution was recolonizing eastern Germany and western Poland similarly to how Brandenburg was originally colonized.

>>4421558
>From what I remember, Gihren's response is that Hitler was a middle ages (pre-UC) leader whose national/racial politics no longer fit the conditions of the current era.
At least in the movie cut, Gihren doesn't seem to really get the comparison, assumes it means he's based and moves on without elaborating further.

>nazis were agrarian revivalists who had little concept of an internal inferior class except the mentally retarded
And sexual minorities, dissidents and criminals. Their euthanasia and sterilization programs had hundreds of thousands of victims while Japan forcible sterilized some 500 people. Eugenics never became that big in Imperial Japan because it didn't really fit Shinto Nationalist beliefs of Japanese divinity. Same reason why they were so lenient with internal dissidents.

Neither is a perfect fit, but culling the weak to ensure a glorious future makes much more sense as a reference to the Nazis. You are right in that Zeon is based more on Imperial Japan, which lots of Western viewers miss.

Japsisters fueling Macheux

>>4421702
>I am starting to think we may have been baited. Still we didn't get baited, just some anons had some hopes where from start it was certain to never get anywhere with it.
This wasn't G-Witch scenario, from start when we saw first PV it was presented that both girls are into the boy while blushing, it's some anons fault here wanting to see something that wasn't there for any normal yuri observer.

Alas, the weakness of the 12 episode format strikes again

>>4421702
But either way Shuji got ascended to Newtype heaven and Machu and Nyaan are now recruited on opposite sides

>>4421702
Anon, you can't be serious.

>>4421721
Shuji confirmed Final Boss then...

>>4421702
Gridman?
The same Gridman that confirmed Akane was using an idealized body in cyberspace and Rikka is a replica of her real self?
The same Gridman where they revealed the title hero could come to oppose Alexis because of Yuta’s het love?
The same Gridman that had explicit het romance in the sequel Dynazenon?
The same Gridman that had Yuta confess in the movie finale Gridman Universe and Rikka accept?

>>4421702
>I am starting to think we may have been baited.
>we
Who is “we”?

>>4421702
>Posting het on /u/
Jannies pls just nuke this whole thread except the SuleMio fanart

>>4421735
I think one of posters here like nyaan x machu?

I just want to give my own fuck you to the people that claimed Machu did care about Nyaan. I was right she doesn't give a damn about her.

That post from last years about top/bottom argument is so right. Good thing Youth Frontier is released in less than a week.

>>4421738
The retard who said WfM threads would become Gcucks, kwab.

>>4421746
To think the last time a thread was nuked was because of a FANFIC.

>>4421749
Who?

Half of the this boards needs to get nuked for het posting it has been getting worse from what i assumed it one person trolling.

It's been a while since Pina drew Sulemio.

>>4421721
This is just how Enokido writes

Yes, I’m a woke faggit. There’s got to be something inherently misogynistic that two teenage girls end up falling for a paint sniffing broke bum. Machu? Fine, whatever. Nyaan? The character that was tossing Shuuji’s head like an 8-ball during a fight? She could have been so much more interesting if they kept her independence. God, the scene where she’s tossing her clothes on top of the gundam gives me a bitter aftertaste in retrospect. Blah blah, Shuuji is meant to represent hippie freedom so the girls don’t really love him for real, like DEFINITELY NOT. Blah blah, this shit parallels previous Gundam works. I don’t give a fuck. I think this shit is lazy as hell.

>Mods deleted posts complaining about the webm.
Come on.

>>4421783
>Less than a week
It will release on May 23, 3 days from now.

>>4421810
That's less than week, neechan...

>>4421806
The hard bitter truth is that Gundam has almost always had hackjob writers. The first few series get a pass because the narrative was genuinely novel, but they haven't innovated on the formula at all since like the 90s. Wow war is bad, wow freedom is good but not too much of it. Wow it's up for us to decide the future. Real boriginal.

>>4421749
Liking Nyaan/Machu doesn't mean you believe it's gonna pan out in the show.

Post cute fanart.

>pic with male (and het) not deleted

>>4421821
>>4421806
What doo you guys actually like Gundam? I am being 100% serious.

>>4421702
>Gridman pulled yuri starting from episode 9 so the same could happen here
Until the director and the character designer straight up denied any yuri.
Bandai was buried for far less. Would be fun.

Yay, two episodes out of 12 dedicated to Anno's fanfic rather than the actual story. What a hack he's turned into.

Still, at least Shuji's dead.

>>4421855
I said it should have been a separate prologue like Witch From Mercury did it with Prospera and Eri’s prologue special
Also, Anno always was a hack

Mods doko?

I really like mogumo drawing Miorine's eyes rounder with time.

>>4421863

>>4421702
This felt so forced. Not once did Nyan show any attraction or special interest in Shuu. I can buy that she gets attached to people easily because she never had any friends, but that doesn't excuse her trying to abandon Machu like she didn't have more interactions with her than with the autist who barely spoke to her.

>>4421721
No joke, the pacing is awful. Just like how G-Witch suffered from being 24 episodes long, this one is suffering from being a mere 12. We had 6 episodes of barely anything happening, and suddenly everything happening at once.

>>4421732
>The same Gridman that confirmed Akane was using an idealized body in cyberspace and Rikka is a replica of her real self?
This one is a fan theory, and not a very good one.

>>4421868
It is fact. C’mon. Real Akane looks like Rikka

Trust the plan sisters. MachuNyan patriots ARE in control. This post is sponsored by the shadow government.

>>4421872
Which is to say she looks like every 3D jap girl ever.
This is the only proof ever presented for this theory, and it ignores both worldbuilding and symbolism.

>>4421848
You’re /a/ tourist based on your thoughtless question. No one on /u/ wants to watch contrived horse-hetshit that genuinely leaves everyone why it even exists. Why does Nyaan have feelings for Shuuji? Why does Nyaan and Machu’s relationship feel so frustratingly shallow?
Do you want me to go goo-goo-gaga at the amazing story-telling like poor people have it rough? Teenagers want to be free? Obsession is bad? The mecha designs are okay. The environment atmosphere is pretty. The OST is good. Next

>>4421702
Bro is so uninterested

It is so obvious that while he may appreciate the company he never really cared for either of them

>>4421806
>There’s got to be something inherently misogynistic that two teenage girls end up falling for a paint sniffing broke bum
Teenage girls (and even grown women) do this all the time. They fall for prisoners, drug dealers, abusers, etc.

Women are attracted to guys who are strange. but there's also Newtype shenanigans happening on top of that.

>>4421867 I think the reason Nyaan was so willing to abandon Machu was because she realized that Machu doesn't care about her at all. Nyaan doesn't look her in the eyes or even acknowledge her when boarding the Gundam. I don't think she likes him but she just wants someone to care about her after being alone for so long.

This would have been such a terrible first female protagonist show like it was supposed to be. 80s Tomino was hardly a great feminist, but he never wrote a central female relationship this boring and regressive.

>>4421894
I do agree, but like others have said, it's all so rushed it just comes off in the worst way ever.

Maybe the final act will be better now that it's just them, but after how shoddy the setup was, I can't really bring myself to care. Worst case scenario, when their conflict reaches its climax, they'll just be screaming about Shuji the whole time, bleh.

Also while part of me wants to just dismiss it as bait, the more objective part is a bit interested in how it's now clear that stuff like the ED are intended as a vision of "what-if things had gone better?" Bit of cope, but it'd be nice if they actually reflected on that, but I doubt it. Oh well, decent fanfic fuel for anyone who cares at least.

>>4421879
It’s not hard to make the actress look like Akane. C’mon now. If cosplayers can put on a school uniform and wig, a professional actress can do it

Don't reply to it you idiots.

>>4421905
Back to /m/ with you.

>>4421893
>low hanging bait.
Nice try

>>4421896
>>4421900
What a step down from WFM. Even if you aren’t a s/u/premicist, I can’t fathom how any of this is interesting. Every episode it’s constant sperging about Shuji between Machu and Nyaan. Ironic that Amuro/Lalah/Char’s triangle gave men their agency and motivations before their romance while the teenage girls are forever dick-matized is not lost to me.

>>4421909
It's just the truth, Newtype powers are that serious, Scirocco does it all throughout Zeta.

If you mean the comment on women being attracted to bad guys, there's a reason so many girls have terrible stories about their exes.

>>4421909
Logically this is all symptomatic of how rushed this shit is, compared to the OG having 5x as much time to develop Amuro and Char's rivalry before even /introducing/ Lalah. But really this all begs the question of who the hell thought it was a good idea to try and do a whole microcosm of two different ~50 episode shows in a single season?

Also it's like, I dunno if I'd exactly call it ironic, but it's funny that they did that weird short mall ad thing that had like, reincarnations of Amuro and Char fighting over Lalah, but then she runs off with a girl instead, and they're just like, "...well, guess that's how the cookie crumbles." and fuck off. And then they follow that up with this hack-job attempt at recreating their dynamic, but genderswapped.

>>4421911
>so many girls have terrible stories about their exes.
Because men are violent, entitled, lazy, dumb, selfish, uncaring, inmmature, etc. next question

>>4421913
And yet women hook up with them anyway, which was the point being made.

>>4421815
Yeah but, atleast you know the date.

>>4421912
Actually, you’re right. I don’t even know how it’s ironic because why did they even gender swap them? If it was a straight love triangle, at least it’s expected to be shallow. But with girls as the focal point, I’d think they’d try something new. Instead, it just comes off as gross and stereotypical. Maybe not as grand as another yuri win, but like wow.

>>>4421914
Here’s my last (you). Go spend on something nice with it.

>>4421921
You are not even trying to defend the hetslop

>>4421702
>8 hour shitpost that outright violated one of /u/'s three rules still hasn't been deleted yet
Oh moooooooooooodddssss

>>4421893
>Teenage girls (and even grown women) do this all the time. They fall for prisoners, drug dealers, abusers, etc.
Where did you learn that from? Homeless drug addicts?

>Thread is about to hit 300 posts
>Most of the posting is Gcucks's hetshit
>Less than 100 images

Imagedumpsis, onegai.

>>4421920
It's still a straight love triangle, just MFF instead of MMF. And especially in the current climate, these kinda stories are frequently shallow wish fulfillment to begin with, and it comes off all the worse having two female characters whose principle motivation is "Boy."

I still wouldn't like it, but at least if Machu were the focal axis instead of Shuji like some people had been coping with the idea of, that would be marginally more interesting. But no, instead it's just two girls who can't talk about anything but a boy.

Shout-out to Annqi for calling it pathetic, that was funny at least.

>>4421925
I noticed that the mod on /m/ literally deleted the points of yuri but not the hater ones. What's wrong with them?

>>4421928
At this point I can't wait for GCucks to be over, so we can just get back to talking about actual /u/.

I'd hope for a lot of energy with the manga coming up, but knowing the erratic schedules of Gundam manga, it'll probably be spotty at best. Oh well, fingers crossed for a strong start at least.

>>4421921
>the yuri board likes it when things are yuri and doesn't like it when things aren't yuri

genius insights here

>>4421926
I've seen it happen. Many times in person and also through the accounts of others online.

>At this point I can't wait for GCucks to be over, so we can just get back to talking about actual /u/.
I miss when the threads were slower.

>>4421933
Btw, cute fanart.

>>4421702
>Bullshit male in the goddamn webm
>Not knowing /u/'s rules in 2025
Fucking kill yourself, fucking newfag

>>4421943

I wonder if DJ-nee is still here, the same circle who did “Bewitched to you" is doing another +18 book for June. The guests are good, PriPrifag is one of them!

>>4421944
>Ericht being a gremlin in the shadows
Cute

Also I dunno exactly what she's saying, but this clip of Suletta stammering Miorine's name repeatedly while doing some Heart-Themed super attack is adorable.
https://twitter.com/DeltyThe73rd/status/1924794377572159984

>>4421936
A teenage girl liking Patrick Bateman
's edits on Tiktok is not teenage girls being attracted to drugies

>>4421946
Cute fanart, source?

Last thread someone translated it >>4411115

>>4421926
>>4421893
There's this even a guy who killed his wife and his kids just to be with his new girlfriend, and when he's in the prison he gets the love letters from women and told him he's innocent.

>>4421945
I've seen quite a few anthology doujins being made. I don't know if any of them are also being digitally released. I hope the one released in June in Kobe is with how many people they have working on it.

I didn't know they combined written fanfiction with comics for certain doujin collabs.

>>4421952
DJ-nee?
For more information, the twitter account is @dirty_pig5

>>4421948
Oh that is fantastic, thanks.

>Cute fanart, source?
https://twitter.com/smysmysm/status/1673322859790213121
I am genuinely surprised Google actually pointed me to it.

TL please?

>>4421957
I think it's fanmade tho.

Thanks!

>>4421945
@5kawa8gi has been working on this since February.

>>4421955
Oh sorry, no I'm not them. Didn't realize we were talking about the exam same doujin either way happy coincidences.

>>4421968
miorine canonically got blacked by suletta so. appropriate.

>>4421555
>My point is, it was all very passionate and in the ways clearly intended.
There was plenty of discussion on whether the narrative was going in a good direction. Reminder that the first time Miorine and Suletta interact in season 2 is in episode 16. People were definitely talking about that, especially because the betrayal had been anticipated since the first season. I don't think distinguishing between passionate and dispassionate discussion is particularly meaningful, because the show had already built up a fanbase that was invested in how it would end.

>The passion's what attracted the schizos and trolls, rather than it being created by them.
Again, I don't really feel like debating such an asinine point, but I don't know if I agree. A new gundam au with a lesbian mc was 2000% guaranteed to attract shitposters, regardless of the quality of the show. You could reliably farm a billion replies with the most obvious bait possible for the show's entire runtime. I'd say that qualifies as creating/fueling a not insignificant amount of the passionate "discussion" that was going on then. By no means am I saying that shitposting was the singular root of all discussion, but it wasn't a non-factor.

Let's be real, Birdie Wing never was that interesting. The only draw it had was the yuri once the novelty of its wackiness wore off.

I haven't been keeping up with gcucks because every time I see a new ms design I have to bang my head against a wall to erase it from my memory (while silently crying at the fact that Sentinel will never get an anime adaptation), but it's not actually 12 episodes, right? Surely Bandai is not making the same mistake twice in a row (three times if you count build metaverse), right?

>>4421976
Yes it is. The anime industry is so horrifically dire I feel like we'll unironically see 10 or 8 episode runs being normal in the next few years

>>4421977
Insane, although now I feel less bad about not keeping up with it. I wonder if we'll ever see a proper 50+ episode Gundam series again. Maybe they'll go back to tighter, high-quality OVA (or I guess ONA) runs that aren't constrained so much by TV station timetables, but I guess it's too much to hope for anything good to come out of this.

I'm not interested in Nyachu, but them being rivals looks cool...

>>4421996

Big question is how do we save Nyann/Machu from killing each other and save the series?

>>4422025

Ok, were they actually trying with Machu x Shuji? Because aside from the Kira Kira scenes it's been dogshit and her just being jealous

This isn't even just me hating hetslop, hell, I genuinely think Shuji and Nyaan have better chemistry than the so-called main relationship. Am I missing anything?

>>4422018

Based on how the rest of the killings have gone through the series when Amate kills Nyaan she'll move on from it in a few minutes.

>>4422018
Machu fucks off on her own adventure and that traitor ny**n and sh*ji are both left to die

>>4422038
Shuji never cared about anyone but himself and Char. Nyaan and Machu didn't realize this the whole time. I do see there will be a payoff in the final episode.

>>4422041
Idk, they deliberately lessened his usage of "The Gundam said" in this episode. His interactions with Nyaan so far feel like it's subtlely more genuine than whatever they did with him and Machu.

Based height difference.

>>4422048
>interactions with Nyaan so far feel like it's subtlely more genuine
He never cared for both of them only to get close to Char's Newtype. Nyaan will realize this so as Machu to the point it will be too late. I have a strong feeling both girls will die as a result to their own foolish choices.

As a woman, who sleeps wearing a bra?

>Spent too much stocks on Machu x Nyaan
>Immigrant bitch simps for hobo
>Now I'm in the same financial status as discount Kamille

>spends remaining stocks on Machu x Deux
> TestTube Bitch dies and never interacts with Machu

Where should I spend my MachuStocks next?

>>4422124
Challia's plot fails and she and Nyaan both become Mistress Kycilia's pets.

>>4420008
>official pic
>actual 2 people
L-lewd

>>4422124
Why the hell does machu need to even be with that traitorous immigrant? I'd rather she find someone else

>>4422038
Does anyone actually unironically ship Machu with Shuji, let alone anyone else in the show? She's just been an absolute brat rather than an actual character

>>4422124
>Deux
S/He could still be alive. IIRC, the Psycho Gundam Cockpit is in the head.

>>4422166
But unless Challia took her to custody, she won't meet Machu. Hopefully he did though because I need my stocks back after the damn pump and dump that immigrant did

>>4422161
Her being an absolute brat is her charm. I really loved how desperate she was getting this episode.
>>4422083
Machu's mom living or dying was the determining factor of the ending. Since she lives, Machu will have to go back and reconcile with her, accepting that adults are flawed even if they mean the best.
And if that's the case, Nyaan will also live because Machu will not kill anyone until the end.

>>4422169
>series ends with Machu going back to her normal life
>hobo and immigrant fuck off somewhere and die
>Machu meets white haired transfer student named Deux
>GQuuuuuux High School Sequel announcement

Studio Khara, I KNEEL

>>4421894
>because she realized that Machu doesn't care about her at all. Nyaan doesn't look her in the eyes or even acknowledge her when boarding the Gundam
The shot is framed differently.
Machu turns around to face her but Nyaan still has her back turned.
Also last episode she was deliberating over having wronged her on two seperate occasions.
Machu is the one who broke the bond, as well as with her mother, and she will have to be the one who repairs it.

Why are Machu fans so racist against Nyaan? Even if you don't ship them, it wasn't this bad as when Suletta was the protag?

>>4422177
Numerous reasons

1. Yurisisters who got baited into thinking it was Yuri and think Nyaan betrayed them. Ignoring how Machu and Shuji was teased before Nyaan even was interested in Shuji

2. Hetslops thinking Nyaan is going against Machu x Shuji

3. Being an Immigrant

4. Being Brown

>>4422177
Shitposting. Same as what happened with Machu after her outburst last episode. Both of then will get to the low point before it goes back up

>>4422179
So basically, both her romances are so trash they think blaming nyaan will fix either of them depending on who you ship

>>4422177
She did try to betray Machu. Depending on whether she knew Challia picked her up, she may have also left her to take the fall even when specifically asked if she wanted to help someone leave Side 6.

I'll kill SHARTji.

>>4422183
There's no romance in this show. This episode is the one where everyone should understand this. Shuji and by extension, the kirakira sparkles, has repeatedly been implied to be what drives Newtypes into desperation.
It has always loomed over this show, they had it with Shiiko and it became abundantly clear this time with Deux.

>>4422186
It was a joke fag, I know, I was just making fun of the reasons on why Machu incels hate Nyaan.

Why is this show even on here beyond being a Gundam show and somewhat related to Wfm?

1 twitter nigger ruined himejoshis rep for GQuuuuuux. The Guel-less cut sister was funnier than that Schizo Daily Nyachu shipper. Once again G-Witch is on top

I don't think Machu & Nyan are gonna die "tragically" in the end, but I also don't think it's gonna be a golden ending with them getting kira-kira with each other, understanding and opening up to one another, leading to them living out their lives together like in the ED.

I'm not sure exactly what the middle-ground between these two extremes will look like, but I am pretty sure it's gonna be really underwhelming and super unsatisfying.

>>4422195
Maybe they ascend to newtype heaven

>>4422195
I think it's gonna end with the trio "separated" but have the whole, no matter where we are we understand each other, type ending.

>>4422195
Machu and Nyaan will have sex and have a cute baby daughter.

>>4422193
>Daily Nyachu shipper
Never forget they are a hetshipper for Gwitch

>>4422169
Shiiko died while having a place to go back to, Machu will follow the same path, chasing the red gundam to her death.

>>4422225
Macchers is too cute to kill.

>>4422229
She will kill Nyaan, and then die to something related to the Red Gundam.

>>4422225
Machu will not retread Shiiko's path, that's why she was there.

>>4422233
She will, Challia will get Machu to triple down on her obsession.

Is this an Amuro/Char situation or more of a Banagher/Riddhe situation now with Machu and Nyaan?

Also am I the only one being unreasonably excited about the prospect of the climax of the story gearing up to be female gundam ace pilot vs female gundam ace pilot?

>>4422236
>Is this an Amuro/Char situation or more of a Banagher/Riddhe situation
...is there really a meaningful distinction there?

>>4422236
I would be if there was any meaningful relation or conflict between them, but there isn't.

>>4422237
Char and Amuro wanted to kiss each other.

>>4422242
...yeah Banagher/Riddhe then.

I think I understood why Nyaan did an 180 this episode.
If you look at the end of last episode, Nyaan has a hopeful expression when meeting up with Machu.
This episode in the same place she has a disappointed expression.

Nyaan did indeed want to be together with the three of them but when she thought Machu would try to apologize or explain herself or reconnect with her, she instead started blabbing on about Shuji again instead. At no point did she concern herself with Nyaan's opinions. The "are you in love with him" is an indirect "and I don't matter to you?".

That's why she abandons Machu in the middle of the episode. In her mind Machu is the one who left her first and Shuji is the only one who she has left. Then Shuji also rejects her and goes with the Red Gundam. At the end of the episode she has no one.

The question is now, will Machu realize what she did wrong before the end of the show?

>>4422239
I can just see the writers thinking that having the two mains fight each other was going to be some big emotional moment. But they completely forgot to have them bond. The wrost part is Machu is going to try to kill Nyaan blaming her for Shuji dying. "You killed Shuji." Is definitely going to be a line she says.

>>4422246
The problem is this show works way too much on implicating information instead of showing any of it in the actual text. We get shots of them hanging out in different outfits implying they did become friends. But what did they actually do that made them suddenly friends?
What does it mean that she still owes her the phone screen fix? What did Machu mean by asking about her swimsuit? What does Machu mean by becoming a jellyfish?
The dialogue is intentionally so vague they have to stick the ending absolutely perfectly that explains everything in hindsight or the audience will be left just feeling empty.

>>4422245
I think that too I don't think Nyaan has feelings for Shuji she just wants a friend anyone after losing everyone that loved her. She didn't want to be alone again Shuji was the last person she had after Amate confined she didn't care about her.

At the end of the episode she was alone again they asked her if she had any friends or family she says no, there's no reason for her to think Machu is dead so she doesn't consider her friend.

There's more to the shrine scene we never got Nyaan's answer but she's clearly not happy with Amate's obsession.

>>4422245
>The question is now, will Machu realize what she did wrong before the end of the show?
Definitely not.

>>4422250
>I don't think Nyaan has feelings for Shuji
I appreciate the optimism, but the blushing she does around him in ep 6 is pretty obvious. Besides, if she didn't like him, she could just tell Machu that to resolve their conflict.

>>4422256
>she could just tell Machu that to resolve their conflict.
Not that anon but it wouldn't fix anything. That still leaves the fact that Machu is willingly throwing her into the firing line to save Shuji due to her obsession.
But I do think there's enamourment over him from both sides because thematically the kirakira is something they both want, but Machu way more than Nyaan, and something that will ruin both of them.

>>4422256
But the conflict is that Machu doesn't care about Nyaan.

>>4422257
>>4422258
She's a friendless refugee. If she can preserve her friend group by telling an aggrieved girl she doesn't like the same boy as her, like millions of teen girls have done, she'd take it without considering the deeper implications for their friendship.

>>4418778
>bulge
I fucking hate futashit.

>>4422272
She wants friends but she's not a doormat.

>>4422272
She doesn't want a fake friendship.

>Webm with hetshit is still there
MODS DOKO?

>>4421918
It's already May 22 in Japan...

>>4422295
I see the post with file deleted
You might want to clear your cache and refresh. The het webm got deleted already. If you still see it, it's some sort of bug

>>4421912
>begs the question
Raises, not begs. Begging is a different thing.

>>4422298
>You might want to clear your cache and refresh.
Yeah, just noticed.

>>4422325

>>4422328

>>4422330
hot desu

>>4422350

>>4422236
>Also am I the only one being unreasonably excited about the prospect of the climax of the story gearing up to be female gundam ace pilot vs female gundam ace pilot?
At this point I'm more interested to see what kinda mech Nyan is gonna wind up in than if her conflict with Machu will amount to anything.

>>4422447
Reversed

>>4422452

So is the manga out tomorrow or in two days? Isn't Japan a half day ahead of est?

Surprised that they haven't shared the little pages of youth frontier

>>4422476
Technically tomorrow? It's like 11 am May 22 in Japan atm.

>>4422370
They are so soft in every form. I can't wait for Seishun Frontier to show what could have been in season 1.

For a show's setting to be in school, there was a surprisingly lack of school activities in the show.

>>4422236
>Also am I the only one being unreasonably excited about the prospect of the climax of the story gearing up to be female gundam ace pilot vs female gundam ace pilot?
If their main beef with each other is who deserves to be with some deadpan faggot then it's like who cares you know? I want to see a girl/girl pilot rivalry but not like this.

The best we can get out of a situation like that one is fuel for "women amirite fellas?" shitposts.

>>4422529
If the writing centers their coming conflict around their mutual feelings of abandonment and isolation, presenting them lashing out at each other for it (perhaps even reconciling and building from there, but I won't hold my breath), it could be interesting, but if they continue to crouch it entirely on the basis of their interest in Shuji, it's gonna be impossible to sit through.

Very, very based imagedumpsis, onegaishimasu.

>>4422579
That giraffe...

>>4422587
What's wrong with that giraffe?

We're hitting the image cap soon, so any suggestions for OP image?

>>4422639
Official manga Youth frontier?

>>4422585
Love how their Nika has just continued to become a mad scientist.

>>4422644
Good idea. Imagedump-chan, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't fill the thread completely until there's scans to use as OP.

Less than 11 hours for Youth Frontier's release, how are yo/u/ feeling?

>>4422696
Yeah, that's what I thought. The OP image must be the panel where they meet or (if) get engaged.

>>4422728
11:00 am huh? I can't wait

>>4422728
My expectations are kind of low. How often are spinoffs like this any good? I'd love to be wrong, though.

>>4422639
More funny animals.

>>4422728
I'm just wondering how they'll ruin it

>>4422772
Not exactly the same, but that SnK High School AU was, at least, entertaining.

>>4422790
Based animalsis, we've won enough since last year with THAT picture being the OP, official Cat/Dog Sulemio and official Tanuki/Kitsune.

>>4422801
Did Historia x Ymir happen?

>>4422811
I can't tell if that's a rhetorical question, but I was happy seeing they were always together. If we have Sulemio doing teenager shenanigans, I'm satisfied.

This is the energy I want from Youth Frontier.

I think we should stop posting images after reaching 270.

>>4422860
Possessive, clingy tsuntsun Miorine? Absolutely

>>4422860
Not to be a debbie downer but I feel like you people are getting your hopes way too high for this thing. It's a cutesy spinoff with an ensemble cast, not a full Sulemio special.

>>4422899
Gwitch is sulemio. I don't even remember what else happened in that anime

>>4422899
Why the sudden downtrodden responses? I've seen a couple of takes like these on twitter. I don't think they'll remove the whole "betrothal" aspect from the show. So there's bound to be Sulemio hijinks.

>>4422990
I think they will, given it'd be pretty awkward to work into a more conventional high school setting. Granted Earth!Asticassia still looks to be pretty ritzy, and I imagine they'll still have most of the cast being rich scions, just perhaps not to military industry. Maybe it'll touch on that, maybe not. Could be totally wrong and there'll still be arranged marriage shenanigans.

Either way, I'm expecting some sort of setup to still pair them up, whether it's marriage or something else.

So, where can we buy the manga online?

>>4423018
The whole Benerit group conglomerate could be worked into a more contemporary setting. Like him being a major leading party politician or CEO of some massive influential company on the country that is (presumably) Japan. (i.e Samsung to Korea)

The idea of setting up arranged marriages among the elite wouldn't be too far a stretch... maybe. Also betrothal/engagements have been worked into High School settings in more mainstream romcoms for a while now.

The benerit group could be a conglomerate of logistic companies which are of great importance and I could see having branches. This is all conjecture of course.

>>4422115
Are they making out here?

45 min to go.

https://comic-walker.com/detail/KC_006679_S?episodeType=first

>>4423080
>Eri types in English
Huh

>>4423080
>>4423081
>her profile is Suletta's keychain
lol what just happened

>>4423084
They probably just don't want to make an older eri design for a spin off manga au

>>4423085
We are not sure about that, It's just her profile pic that we see.

>>4423080
What the fuck would be an ariel in this timeline, don’t tell me it’s

>>4423094
It could be a cool motorcycle that she's always wanted, but she never could afford on her own

>>4423080
>Yuri manga as-fuck beginning
>Eri as the unseen sister abroad
Off to a fantastic goddamn start!

>>4423096
It's gonna be a motor scooter like in the show just more modern day

>>4423080
>Eri is alive
>Aerial exists
>Yuri opening
It's so peak. Can't wait to see adult eri

>>4423113
I dunno, I'm guessing she's just gonna be this unseen presence throughout the run, only ever "seen" via texting with Suletta.

But if we do get an actual appearance from her, that'd be peak.

>>4423080
Is Guel supposed to be a Principal?

>>4423080
I need the next chapter ASAP and fanart, lots of it

>>4423079
>Guel appears midway
>Doesn't speak to suletta
>Must be a guel harem manga
Are you retarded?

>>4423130
Student Council President I think. They usually give a commencement speech in Japanese schools (or in anime/manga anyway).

Given it's apparently the counterpart to the "Holder" role from the anime, and we see Suletta wearing that white jacket in promo art, that raises some interesting questions about how the next couple chapters are gonna go...

>>4423080
>Suletta is the Witch from Alaska
That's hilarious

https://x.com/NGICHHR/status/1925743738648768904

>>4423080
Welp, there you go OP-chan. Imagedumpsis, onegaishimasu.

>>4423080
please tell me Bandai isn't involved in this.

>Alaska
>Brown skin

>>4423080
It says they didn't tag it on yuri, are we doomed? should we worry?

>>4423192
Freak the fuck out and dump all your Sulemio stocks now. It's over...

>>4423192
I don't think they tagged WFM as yuri when it was airing either sis... Too early to tell, but I have hope

Someone pointed out Sulemio met by the ocean like Ferdinand and Miranda did, BASED.

>>4422930
Yeah, the show always said "the story of two girls".

C'mon OP-chan, cute scans for the OP, pick em' up.

https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000016974.000007006.html
Nice articles

So, what will the Aerial be here? A motorcycle? A car?

I can't wait for the rest of the family to appear

>>4423235
A dildo.

Who would be the half american? Nadim?

>>4423107
I'd love to see that motor scooter racing around the modern day kanagawa campus.

Miorine's wild driving session when?

Suletta looks handsome in SRW Y

>>4423080
Is this going to be a monthly serialization? I don't remember if they ever officially stated that. Comic Walker's end page for this chapter says the next scheduled update is 6/27...

>>4423263

>>4423259
Sorry, but Gundam just so happens to be a top brand for sex toys in this world.

>>4423199
Also, while Miorine fed Suletta a tomato, it was Suletta's turn with an onigiri.

>>4423274
A true american burger

Op-chan, please do your thing.

>>4423274
Another thing is that suletta is the one from a place where same sex marriage is legal instead of mio

>>4423080
>Suletta is from Alaska
Cute, but also kinda not sure how I feel about that?
Pretty by the numbers first chapter. Looking forward to more. And to finding out what "Aerial" is in this universe.

>>4423318
Was wrong with alaska?

New thread:
>>4423324

>>4423317
Not for long lmao especially if it's set in the near future