Thread 712345532

>>712345532 (OP)
>Has been fighting the Covenant since first contact
>One of two survivors of the first Halo and the initial encounter with the Flood
>First human to entire into an alliance with an alien that doesn’t end in one killing the other
I’d want him in my war room.

How the hell is he still a sergeant? Some military anon please explain how that is possible.

Same with Master Chief being a Master Chief after all he's done

>>712346219
Its more like a nickname. Their actual rank is ‘I’m a spartan and I do what I want’

>>712346219
At the end of Halo 3, Chief is “posthumously” promoted to Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy, which is the highest rank for an enlisted serviceman.

>>712346219
>still a sergeant
It's just short for Sergeant Of The Master Sergeants Most Important Person Of Extreme Sergeants To The Max

>>712345532 (OP)
Halo 2 Johnson is the only good Johnson. In Halo 3 they made him akin to a damsel in distress in constant need of the Chief and Keyes's rescue only to just kill him in the most retarded way possible.

>>712346219
It's likely that he turned down promotion so he could stay in a combat role. After enough rank they don't really want you getting shot at.
Also this is 500 years in the future so who really knows how their rank structure or chain of command works.
>>712345532 (OP)
Subject matter experts are commonly brought into command meetings regardless of rank
Another anon explained he is a big deal
Also he's a former spartan candidate

>>712346219
You can refuse a promotion.
And for Johnson, at some point he became a symbol for the troops so dragging him from the fight to a desk would've been detrimental to troop morale

>>712347198
>Also he's a former spartan candidate
Not a candidate, he was an Orion. A Spartan I.

>>712346219
halo 1 - 3 take place over 4 months, apparently
i'm sure johnson would've been promoted after the shit was over with

>>712348046
Johnson's been fighting Covvies for over 20 years - the entire war, in fact.

>>712346219
Master Chief is the highest enlisted rank. What would he get promoted to exactly?

>>712346219
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_promotion
He would have gotten a battlefield commission long ago even if he didn't attend any formal officer school or academy.

>>712346219
You don't get to shift over to officer no matter how much badass stuff you do
Also he was a Sergeant Major when he died, which is a rank where most enlisted men are retiring

>>712345532 (OP)
>command should never talk to the leaders on the ground
Idiot

SERGEANT JOHNSON IS A JOKE CHARACTER THAT DIED AT THE END OF HALO 1

>>712346770
B-B-B-BLOODY SCREEN
SO REAL

>>712349443
Not even at the end, he was a common Marine who died several times a mission.

he's the main human-elite liaison

>>712350369
>sergeant johnson
>black
>shit jokes
>I'm a real man
>dies being embraced rectally by an alien
even in space blacks are bucks

>>712345532 (OP)
Master Chief is too overpowered to get feedback on what the war is like for the average soldier. You could drop him 100 miles deep into enemy territory with a stick and he would make it out. He's also kind of autistic. Johnson is in the sweet spot in being just modified enough to survive that long but still human enough to know what it's really like for Private Gonzalez

>>712346879
You can thank Marty O'Donnell for that, same with Keyes retarded death...

>>712345532 (OP)
I agree that they should have promoted.

>>712346219
>master chief is enlisted
>out of all the training SPARTANs had to go through, college and officer school wasn't part of it

>>712352902
Marty gets a lot of justified shit for being a maga boomer and having some stupid ideas by the time of H3, but he's also responsible for how the flood are introduced in 343 Guilty Spark, and that moment in Silent Cartographer when chief kicks to stone into the shaft. And a lot of other iconic moments. It's justified to say he massively contributed to the game and is a genius

>>712353889
>politics out of nowhere
brainrotted retard

>>712353778
There's apparently some stupid law against enlisting kidnapped children that they had to work around

>>712354181
It's marty whose a brainrotted retard, blame him for not sticking to videogames and constantly getting into politics

>>712353778
they must've realized learning how to take inventory of shipboard dildos wasn't conducive to raising a killing machine

>>712346219
master chief was offered to be promoted to officer (lord hood even outright stated he can pretty much go straight to admiral) but he declined

Ghosts of Onyx is such an awesome book and Nylund is a freaking god, it sucks how it ends in an interesting place with Blue Team stuck on the shield world, but then the story is picked back up by Karen Travis who is a dogshit author who taints and ruins whatever she touches

I want my own cortana.

>>712357165
What? You don't likes shitty edgelord slop?

>>712357165
I loved that part where one of the Spartan III kids comes back from a fight, having his whole side blown off, but part of the Spartan III training is to hop up the kids on drugs so much that they don't ever stop. So he's just like "enemy subdued, area clear, sir" and drops dead on the spot.

>>712358191
No.

>>712358449
Its hardcore how Kurt goes through like three generations of Spartan IIIs the first two of which are literally slaughtered to the last man.

>>712358712
>the first two of which are literally slaughtered to the last man.
Not anymore!

>>712358712
>Its hardcore how Kurt goes through like three generations of Spartan IIIs the first two of which are literally slaughtered to the last man.

The entire point of them was to be cheap and expendable, and every time they are preventing attacks that would otherwise have the Covenant win the war.

>>712345532 (OP)
Can't talk about that, son
It's classified

>>712345532 (OP)
NOT BAD SOLDIER

NOT BAD AT ALL

>>712352902
>dies in a heroic last stand
>tragedy in the final entry of the story
>erm ackshually this is bad because reasons
Get some taste you fucking pleb. Stick to your zoomer friendly games where none of the named characters die because they could be someone's "comfort character" you pussy bitch.

>>712359697
It's bad because it makes no fucking sense. Why would 343 spark let them into the control room in the first place when he knows they want to activate the ring and he knows the ring isn't ready for activation. The whole plot point is forced and retarded.

>>712359697
>dies in a heroic last stand
of her own retarded making, no really what was even preventing her from just quickly grabbing chief and arby, or at the very least some random marines and elites to help her in her last ditch fight, and why the fuck wasn't her pelican armed despite it being deployed to a warzone, Johnsons deaths makes some sense at the very least but Keyes was just a series of retarded moves

>>712358449
doesn't he just get hit by ONE plasma bolt while his shields are down
that book made the covenant weapons feel terrifying. i remember feeling sick as it described how the plasma seared the flesh off of his ribcage and you could see the internal organs

>>712346064
>one of two survivors

>>712362451
I guess she thought there truly wasn't any seconds to spare (even though it gets turned on anyways and you still make it in time) though why she was flying it alone in the first place I can't remember, maybe she didn't want to risk anyone else possibly being captured as well. I really like the scene even if it is forced drama though

>>712345532 (OP)
>Johnson

>To war.
How do you respond without getting court martialed?

>>712346219
I think rank is misunderstood by the general populace.

Rank and Pay Grade are the same at all times.
Rank and Level of Authority are not necessarily the same.

Promoting an elite Special Forces Operative like Master Chief to what his actions 'merit' is effectively pointless. Being a one-man wrecking ball like Rambo does not mean he has any business sliding into Admiralty-level billets. You can't really financially compensate him enough for what he's done, and honestly, he, like many ex-SOF in the modern world, can make far more money off of his status than whatever an O-10 is paid. Also, given that Master Chief has earned every USNC medal, he's undoubtedly receiving a lifetime payout of the MOH equivalent.

I miss Halo.

Fuck Microsoft

>>712365556
OH NO

>>712345532 (OP)
Sorry anohns, it's classified

>>712367695
>Anniversary Keyes

>>712346219
He was promoted to Sergeant Major at the beginning of Halo 2 and promoted to Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps posthumously which is equal in rank to the Master Chief's rank at the end of the trilogy.

>>712345532 (OP)
>>some random sergeant
He has been fighting the Covenant since first contact quarter of a century before the game and is a former Spartan I. It's bizarre he's even still a Sergeant

>>712357165
>Karen Traviss
The Talifans woman? Oh God

>>712363738
Yeah I remember Ghosts of Onyx being like that, towards the end of the book I recall a Spartan dying or getting seriously wounded to something like a single needler shot hitting him while his shield was down.

>>712369090
granted he was a spartan III in SPI armor, and pretty sure it was the blast from a hunters cannon, so it's not as dumb as Kat getting hit by a needler

>>712366395
I've always found the idea of MC being "paid" to be interesting.
The man basically LIVES in the military. It's literally his life.
From what we know, he doesn't take leave, and even if he did he wouldn't likely do anything or go anywhere.
I admit 4's premise of MC is interesting, though the whole "spartans are weird fucking freaks" started all the way back in the first book and wasn't anything new.
They grew out of that sort of stigma over time as they became living legends on the battle field but people higher up the chain of command -the dude in The Flood book who would be his CO and sort of dressed him down as such -, Ackerson, who's a massive hypocrite who ended up making the Spartan 3s and 4s, and the CO of the Infinite in 4.

they don't have lives. From what we can understand from the games and a portion of the books, blue team might as well live in the millitary and only do their job every fucking day.

>>712363738
Spartan 3's don't have energy shielded power armor because that shit's really fucking expensive during the Human-Covenant war, and I guess becomes cheaper after since 4s have them. Reach doesn't count because it's revisionist history garbage despite being a good game.
S3's have essentially low power camouflage that mimics surroundings and is predominately made of plastic and light metals for ease of movement and infiltration.

S3s are literally mass produced suicide soldiers ona stricter budget.

>>712346770
>>712349563
Based

>>712369089
http://web.archive.org/web/20100115082418/http://boards.theforce.net/literature/b10003/28128642/p5

>>712370092
>Reach doesn't count because it's revisionist history garbage despite being a good game.
never read the books, why is reach's story bad?

>>712370634
It completely ignored the plot that was already in the franchise to write something similar that could be roughly patched over the narrative. Note that they rewrote the reach book after the game. And then they put SPARTAN blue team in 5.

>>712349563
Give me the nuclear missilebomb!

>>712370634
Basically in the books reach is vaporized in a few hours and the game changes it to taking months for no discernible reason.
Think like how in Mass Effect 3 the reapers should have just taken the citadel right away since nobody could stop them and that's what they always did before anyway.

>>712371532
To be fair, Reach still stood for a few days. It was taken over in a few hours, yes but it wasn't fully destroyed until about a week or so later because the covenant were looking for something on the planet.
t. First Strike.

>>712345532 (OP)
Contact Harvest is one of the best books I've read in my life.

>>712345532 (OP)
>the toughest Spartan I nigga in the UNSC is invited to every meeting
No shit? Dude made it through first contact. We need an FPS about Harvest.

>>712371532
>Think like how in Mass Effect 3 the reapers should have just taken the citadel right away since nobody could stop them
Sovereign died in the first game, which meant the reapers couldn't sneak through and bum rush the citadel, retard.
>captcha: H8 TND
kek

>>712373747
They didn't need to sneak through because we clearly see that they take the Citadel anyways.

>>712374018
But it took them longer, dumbfuck. Play the god damn games you bitch about. Or don't so I can keep dunking on your dumbass.

>>712375269
And it was fucking nonsensical since the very opening tells us that we need a fucking deus ex machina to stop the Reapers but the Citadel wasn't touched until the very end where they bring it to Earth

>>712346219
He's a Sergeant Major, AKA E-9 enlisted rank. In the US Army, soldiers will typically address anyone Sergeant (E5) and above as just sergeant rather than by their full title.

And Master Chief is short for Master Chief Petty Officer, the Navy's E9. Thus they are both technically of the same rank. I'm not up to speed on the lore but the UNSC in Halo just seems to use a mishmash of Navy and Army ranks.

>t. former Marine

>>712375269
He's right though. The reapers could have and would have just rushed straight through to the Citadel from Batarian space to take control of the relays and lock everyone else out instead of dividing themselves into a thousand different fronts to fight everyone everywhere at the same time while leaving them the ability to communicate and move forces around the galaxy freely. And then even when they do take the Citadel they still don't lock the relays down because, well, I guess they just forgot to. Mass Effect 3 doesn't make any sense if you played the first game.

>>712377720
>The reapers could have and would have just rushed straight through to the Citadel from Batarian space to take control of the relays and lock everyone else out
True! However, events from the previous games prevented this from happening. Based Shepard.

>>712377085
Lorefag here, Spartans are part of the UNSC Navy and use Navy ranks, while Johnson is in the Army and follows Army ranks.
https://www.halopedia.org/UNSC_rank_structure

>>712345532 (OP)
He's a comic relief character brought back due to fans reception. The initial idea is aping Sgt. Apone from Aliens, anything that came afterwards from Halo 2 - 3 and the books is unintended development.

>>712379701
Johnson is a marine, he is 100% NOT in the army. I don't even think the UNSC "army" really exists much in the lore, or if it does they function as a defense force stationed planetside. Even then I remember in Contact Harvest the planet of Harvest had no "army" it was a planetary militia trained by UNSC marines including Johnson himself

>>712380041
The soldiers in Reach are 90% army.

>>712378965
The last Protheans prevented the Reapers from remotely accessing the Citadel hence Sovereign needing to interface with it manually to regain control of it in ME1. There was nothing at all stopping the Reapers from manually accessing the Citadel's controls in ME3.

We settle this once and for all

Which marine armor had the best design?

>>712381586
ok
not what anyone was talking about, but ok
keep up, anon

>>712381963
Reach's is perfect

>>712367695
I love concubines.

>>712381963
reach and any other answer is provably wrong
ranking is as follows
1: reach
2: 3 but not by much
3: 2 due to the soulful tacticool
4: 1 armour plating looks slapped to on

>>712381963
Reach's. Looks like a proper future marine but clearly not the "main guy" type.

>>712381963

Halo 3

Reach looks too modern and not futuristic enough

>>712363738
>>712369090
>doesn't he just get hit by ONE plasma bolt while his shields are down
>a Spartan dying or getting seriously wounded to something like a single needler shot

Yeah, Covenant weapons are just that powerful. You don't feel it in-game because you got energy shields and a 50 billion dollar iron man suit. Spartan II Mjolnir armor is basically built out of unbreakable metal and has motors inside to enhance your movement, like you tilt a little your arm and it makes a full movement. You need Spartan II zen meditation training, enhanced reflexes, and unbreakable bone enhancements just so you don't kill yourself while wearing one. As of Halo 2 they also have built in medikit injectors (some wound-sealing goo that's also in the medikits). All of that, and it can still only survive a few plasma shots.

Spartan IIIs just had a basic marine armor with active camo built in, plus they were filled to the toe by meth so they could keep going until they collapsed. They dropped like flies, but they also caused insane damage, like some crack cocaine kamikaze squad.

>>712345532 (OP)
>Science FICTION
It's right there in the genre title OP.

>>712381963
Combat Evolved and it's not even a contest.

>>712382904
false, the face being exposed makes no sense in a future setting where the atmosphere could be so fucked from all the fighting

>>712381963
CE

>>712364001
Pete Stacker should be like the Carmines from Gears, there’s just a bunch of brothers who all sound the same and they keep fucking dying in fucked up ways.

>>712370634

>Reach is hyped up to be military stronghold of Humanity
>Only 20 orbital mac stations as opposed to Earth's 300
>When Covenant forces land in the middle of a desert on Reach, instead of bombarding the entire area with missles, artillery and nukes, UNSC launches full frontal assault with warthogs and tanks?
>When Covenant supercarrier is revealed, again instead of bombarding it with every available asset they have including nukes, they retreat on their own planet?
>Can't use nukes cause they're on the other side of planet? (Apparently ICBM's don't exist)
>Have to jury rig an engine just to take it out.
>Apparenly military stronghold planet doesn't have any anti air defense or scrambles every available ship to try to overwhelm it
>Original lore, Reach falls in 24 hours yet game retcons it to a month which makes no sense

Halo Reach was such a fucking let down. Fall of Reach was made out to be such an apocalyptic event yet in game doesn't feel like it. I was expecting nukes to be dropping left and right out of sheer desperation. The entire game should have been like the CoD MW2 Washington DC levels. Pure panic, desperation and dread. Entire cities and divisions being wiped out. One massive retreat as UNSC throws everything they have at the enemy as a desperate attempt to slow down the onslaught. Essentially like the War of the Worlds scene times 100. UNSC response in game was laughable and made zero sense.

Pic fucking related

>>712346219
a Sergeant Major being promoted to a 2nd Lieutenant would be a demotion.

Johnson was a Spartan I

How the fuck did he survive the first gaylo?

>>712345532 (OP)
>drones everywhere now on real battlefields
>the "science fiction" setting still has boots with guns approach to warfare on year 2500

>>712346219
The highest rank an NCO can get is Sergeant Major isn't it?

>>712382758
>4: 1 armour plating looks slapped to on
that was the point
in the halo 1 manual or maybe one of the books, it talks about how plasma projectiles stick to the target and burn the fuck out of it, so the plates were made to be ripped off quickly
shoot a grunt with a charged plasma pistol shot or fire any plasma weapon at the ground in halo 1 and you can see how it glows and shits out sparks for several seconds
they changed it in later games because... who knows

>>712346219
>a sergeant? Some military anon please explain how that is possible.
the joys of a tiered, bifurcated ranking system built around an officer corps of ivy leaguers

Spoilers but sometimes soldiers are rewarded for doing well

>>712384381
Now this is a good point. Really war is just bombs now, has been for years.

>>712384286
There's a book and also comic about it.

>>712383916
It would have been incredibly easy to have Reach be from the perspective of Red Team as they inserted from orbit, the scene of their pelican going down and about 30 Spartans just fucking hot dropping with zero way to arrest their momentum, half of them being fucked up upon landing and then being asked to defend the orbital MAC generators from a massive covenant attack while another splinter team goes and does the better version of the Deliver Hope trailer against a Covenant carrier parked over a valley. You could even have the final mission or penultimate mission be the Blue Team assignment, playing as Master Chief and having Johnson show up. Fucking easy stuff, instead they came up with a team of OCs and a retcon to force some sense of importance to the lore within the story they wrote.

>>712383916
>Only 20 orbital mac stations as opposed to Earth's 300
It's been nearly 20 years since I was into Halo lore, but IIRC the big deal was that Reach and Earth originally had the same defenses. And it got torn apart on Reach like paper. So Earths defenses got boosted after Reach, which is why it had 300+ orbital railguns (which ended up not mattering).

They also implemented a special protocol, any UNSC ship in contact with Covenant has to delete the coordinates to Earth and make a blind jump with random coordinates into hyperspace to escape, because Covenant was capable of following. It's how the Pillar of Autumn ends up on Halo (but one of the books retcon that so it wasn't a random coordinate but something Cortana saw on Forerunner ruins on Reach).

I forgot though, how did the Covenant knew how to visit Earth anyway? Did they knew, or did they just follow random Forerunner coordinates too and got surprised they ended up on Earth? I faintly recall it was the latter...

>>712360850
Uh because the Flood are literally pouring into the citadel. It would have been ready in a few more days. The characters just have a problem with that since by then everyone on Earth would already be dead. But where else was he going to find a bunch of Reclaimers outside of the galaxy in like 5 minutes to seal them safely inside before the Flood got in?

Guilty Spark acted completely logically, especially for someone who is literally slowly going insane.

>>712384286
>How the fuck did he survive the first gaylo?
He had Spartan I training which made him immune to the Flood... whatever their facehugger balloon things are called, it's been too long, I forgot. Basically he had some toxic shit in his blood that made him immune, and he just... fought his way out.

After that he and some other troops swipe a Covenant ship, and join up with Chiefs pelican dropship. It was in that ship that patched together Halo CE and Halo 2. It also had a covenant Engineer fixing Chiefs suit and shield generator, but they had to torch the pure thing because he would've given the tech back to the Covenant (Engineers are completely passive and share whatever technology they encounter, so if one repairs Chiefs suit, they now know how to build them, and the human energy shield was more advanced than what the Covenant had).

>>712385004
Reach retconned it so that Noble Six delivered the data from a forerunner cache that was contained within Cortana to the Pillar of Autumn before it took off.
As for the thing about Earth, the Prophet of Regret’s fleet just were following the coordinates to a suspected location for the Ark I’m fairly certain and were absolutely flabbergasted when it turned out they found humanity’s homeworld. Which is why the initial Covenant fleet, aside from Regret’s ship, got absolutely thrashed. Then of course the rest of the Covenant showed up and it became a shitshow.

>>712385004
>I forgot though, how did the Covenant knew how to visit Earth anyway?
>I faintly recall it was the latter...
Regret(?) found it because Earth had a portal to the Ark which they learned from some Forerunner planet.
Truth i'm pretty sure isn't actually explained at least not that I know of.

>>712385004
>original Bungie lore
I forget the exact details but it has something to do with the ilovebees ARG where a covenant ai triggers a gravitational wave pulse that alerts the covenant about the location of earth
>new 343 explanation
the prophet of regret discovers a forerunner luminary that reveals the location of the ark portal

>>712385510
>Truth i'm pretty sure isn't actually explained at least not that I know of.
It's not explained directly but you can assume Regret probably sent him the coordinates after he fucked up since according to ODST, Truth's advance fleet showed up basically right after Regret's retreated with the Dreadnought and the rest of the fleet arriving after the events of Halo 2.

>>712381963
i always thought doom did a better job at making space marines imo

>>712384840
>Now this is a good point. Really war is just bombs now, has been for years.

Drones require fuckton of rare earth materials to build, for electronics and batteries. 500 years into the future that shit would be long depleted on Earth, and would have to be mined off of asteroids. Except to get there, you'd have to spend an insane amount of materials just to build starships in the first place, and build shit on asteroids too, etc. And build space colonies on terraformed planets.

So most materials go into building ships and colonies, and compared to that humans are cheaper and more plentiful to use. Especially since the reason Earth moved to other planets was overpopulation.
Additionally, most enemies humans had were rogue colonies, and you didn't want those drone bombed to dust, you wanted them intact so you could resume operations there because it's far more difficult to rebuild shit in the Andromeda galaxy than it is to rebuild Ukraine or Palestine.

That's my take on the problem. As for why they didn't start drone bombing the covenant, it probably wouldn't work on a technologically superior enemy.

>>712352902
He was right that they needed to be killed off to raise tension in the game's finale, the problem is the execution sucked. That's not his fault.

>>712385697
You’re wrong about the original bungie lore, Cortana explicitly states the Covenant weren’t looking for Earth as humanity’s homeworld when they showed up.

>>712385841
I'm pretty sure one of the terminals explicity state that Regret never actually told anyone of his findings both before and after encountering Earth. Apparently Truth already knew about Earth somehow after the fall of Reach according to Halo wiki but again even that doesn't say how.

>Even before the Prophet of Regret learning the location of human's homeworld, the Prophet of Truth knew of the human presence on Earth after discovering the planet following the Fall of Reach, and he had kept it, along with his personal plans for the planet and the Covenant, a closely guarded secret

Just classic Bungie writing

>>712362451
It was to highlight that she was a reckless glory hound like her father was. It didn't make any sense for Keyes to embed himself into that marine unit investigating a rumored covie weapons depot.

>>712386134
Assuming you're talking about the terminal in 2A, that just has Regret telling the Elite not to tell anyone before they arrive. I don't think there's anything that says he wouldn't do it after he's in full panic mode "pllllllease forgive me!" desperation.

As for the Halo wiki, it is an above average wiki but sometimes people really will just write their fanfiction on it. I don't trust anything on there that doesn't have a direct source.

Hey look at this dude.

>>712386475
I really want to hang out in that canyon spot you fight in during the “off the rock, through the bush, nothing but jackal” section of Delta Halo.

>>712386890
Preferably without jackals being there.

>>712386076
the covenant didn’t know it was specifically earth and after jogging my memory the covenant spy ai actually failed and was deleted after being thwarted in its attempts to activate a forerunner device by a splintered human ai. but deactivating the forerunner device is what sent out the pulse. truth and regret would discover this pulse sent by this device and the former would keep it under wraps amassing a secret invasion fleet while the latter would head straight to earth with his "small" missionary fleet.

damn this thread makes me want to re play Halo 1-2-3.

How do you unfuck Halo's setting while also introducing new aliens, worlds, antagonists and concepts so it doesn't feel like an endless rehash of humans vs covenant on Halo installations 24/7?

>>712387450
Unfortunately this isn’t like Star Wars where you could divorce it from the context of its most popular entires and have a perfectly acceptable setting to have your story take place in. Halo is about Halos and the motherfuckers fighting over it.

>>712387354
Play Halo CE, not the anniversary edition. Halo 2 anniversary is cool though for the most part. 3 is one of the best FPS campaigns ever made.

>>712387680
Oh you meant replay, not play.
I wish MCC would give us the old loading screens back but otherwise, perfectly serviceable delivery system for the original trilogy.

>>712384381
Drones are a meme, 90% of deaths are artillery. Granted Halo doesn't have artillery either.

>>712387315
Fuck u, buddy.

>>712385804
Is Primordium that bad? It's fucking Greg Bear, how can it be that bad?

>>712345532 (OP)
1. he's the only person to survive Halo besides Master Chief

2. Tell me you were never in the military without telling me you were never in the military.

>>712387854
anon…wtf is a wraith.

>>712369743
Nobody wants to be a loser in their power fantasy + socially awkward weirdos would make terrible soldiers. Books should've gone the other route and have Spartans be squaddies x1000. The most hyper macho dick waving marine you've ever met, except he's got augments worth the GDP of a small country and could throw any bouncer through a wall.

>>712388238
NTA but here you go.

>>712386325
Even scouring halopedia and every other terminal and reddit posts nobody actually knows how Truth got information on Earth.
Operation FIRST STRIKE was an offensive on Truth's fleet that happened on Sept 13 2552 to delay Truth's forces coming to Earth. This is a month earlier than Regret found out and immediately jumped straight to Earth. This is in the "Ten Twenty" waypoint Docu series.
Like Truth could've known Regret had coordinates to something if it had leaked but definitely not Earth considering at that point Regret didn't even know Earth was the humans world until he actually went there.

>>712387680
>>712387764
I used to play the PC version of CE and 2. Had to upgrade to Vista early on to play 2 (there was an XP patch but it crashed at the Gravemind).
Played MCC once just to finally see Halo 3 after so many years. Reach and ODST was MEH, 4 was completely fucked but had that flying level which I really liked. Either Reach or ODST had this completely godawful side story you heard through optional recordings about some fat black chick trying to get out of the city.

MCC was fine for 1-2 as long as I used the original graphics instead of those garbage nextgen models. Halo CE looked a little different but only compared to the older PC port, which was gimped in the first place (also I first played that on a geforce mx 440 which had no pixel shaders, so I had to see the game with Chief having a black visor).

>>712388383
Zurdo

I love made up Glup Shitto sci-fi names.

>>712388559
I prefer mine to have more PLs and Bs

Like Plurbo

>>712345532 (OP)
is it legal to smoke a cigar in a spaceship

>>712345532 (OP)
Halo 3 could really have done with some background officers in cutscenes with Lord Hood so it didn't seem like the chain of command of whole UNSC wasn't just
>Lord Hood
>Miranda Keys
>Johnson
>Master Chief
>The marine underclass
Maybe Truth could have also had like a lower ranking San'shyuum cock sleeve aide, or a goon squad of distinct brute chieftains that he had named the new Chieftain of the Brutes, Supreme fleetmaster, and the one man High council.

>>712345532 (OP)
Wasn't this nigga also a prototype spartan or some shit

>>712389550
Yeah he was one of the few Spartan Is that didn't go insane from his bootleg chinese augments. It's why he's immune to the flood like chief is.

>>712388485
It's ODST, the rookie goes around listening to random tapes because he fell asleep on his pod and can't contact his team. I barely paid attention to those sections because it was literally "go here, listen to this tape, now go here and kill a bunch a aliens, see a flashback (playable), then go here and do it all over again". Not sure why people fellate ODST.

>>712389631
Chief is not actually immune to the Flood. Johnson is simply because his nervous system is completely fucked beyond repair. How this doesn’t render him a vegetable is chalked up to whatever bullshit augs they were pumping him with.

>>712389631
>It's why he's immune to the flood like chief is.

Chief is not immune, in the book he almost gets infected (he had a hole in his suit), Cortana has to take control of the armor systems and basically jury rig an electric short to buzz off the drone from Chiefs body.

Since when was Johnson a spartan?

>>712389694
The setting, atmosphere and soundtrack are top tier and having a noir halo story is pretty sex, even if gameplay-wise you're still basically a spartan. I think it's overrated, and overpriced at the time, but it's still solid. I personally really liked the back and forth of rookie and flashback

>>712389631
>>712389867
the flood immunity was the borens syndrome cover up made by ONI to hide the fact that Johnson was a Spartan I. as for how Johnson didn't get infected? he's just that good!

>>712389694
>Not sure why people fellate ODST.

Wasn't it one of the last original Halo games made by Bungie? So it's not that it's good, it's just that your other option is fucking halo 4-5-infinite

>>712390151
Pretty sure since the tie in novel First Strike, which was written in like 2003 to explain how the fuck Chief got home and how Johnson of all people is still alive.
Technically, Johnson wasn’t a Spartan, but the super soldier program he was part of, Orion, was retroactively dubbed the Spartan-I program.

>>712345532 (OP)
He’s a not a buck sergeant or anything like that, he’s a sergeant major, highest possible enlisted rank in army and marines. There is a sergeant major advisor to all ranking officers and a sergeant major of the army the works at the pentagon and advises the joint chiefs of staff.

>>712377085
Don't you mean

>t. Marine

>>712390151
Project Orion.

>>712389867
no. the reason johnson was immune was because he spammed sticky grenades from a crate he found and it messed up his dna or something. the quote from him was "they passed me up like a bad turkey dinner"

>>712390290
>as for how Johnson didn't get infected? he's just that good!

He is so good in fact that they had motherfucking Tsutomu Nihei (of BLAME!) draw a comic about him escaping the Flood.

>>712390516
That was the cover story given in First Strike, which was then found out to be bullshit. Though I’m fairly certain Johnson did actually find a crate of plasma grenades at one point which kinda rules. Imagine you just see that shit as a marine where your sergeant is just mlb pitching plasma grenades at grunts.

>>712389631
>>712389867
Pretty sure one of the books chalks it up to some disease Johnson has. Haven't read this in years though, so I may be wrong.

>>712390516
>because he spammed sticky grenades from a crate he found and it messed up his dna or something
That was the ONI spook's coverup for the Orion Project aka Spartan-Is. Again it's not something that's really explained other than he's resistant (not immune) to the flood.

>>712390807
Well, never mind then. >>712390290 >>712390747

>>712390307
ODST is a good game imo but it's too short for a full priced game. Gameplay-wise you're just a slightly weaker spartan (which imo is pretty lame, i think the gameplay should've been completely different), but if you like halo 3 gameplay you're going to like odst gameplay. The story is charming but pretty generic, good voice acting, amazing soundtrack. It's definitely not the best halo game, but I wouldn't say it's bad. Great atmosphere, retreads ground in the gameplay department a bit too much.

>>712390882
nta but in halo 3, there's a way to keep Johnson alive in the last level and then he'll turn into a flood enemy right when cutscene (the one where 343 and Johnson dies) ends.

>>712390807
There were multiple explanations, first it was the plasma grenade thing fucking his nervous system, then he had boron (sp?) syndrome which made him immune, and either the books or some background lore said that he was a Spartan I (which was the retrofitted name of Project Orion, another supersoldier project that came before Spartan IIs) and he was enhanced in some way that made him into a 110% machismo powered killing machine who scoffs at the flood infection forms.

>>712390598
I love this page and the one right after where he dodges it and blasts the combat form into bits

>>712345532 (OP)
DUDE I KNOW RIGHT HALO, BUT WAIT ALMOST EVERYONE SPEAKS ONLY ENGLISH , ISNT HUMANITY SUPPOSED TO BE FIGHTING IS ONLY AMERIANS IN BIG CHARGES

>>712391226
It’s funny because all the explanations you just listed were all from the same book

>>712346219
Reading the replies to this was interesting.

>>712391546
Translation is explained in lore, keep up faggot.

>>712391546
You think it would be any different IRL? For all of their posturing every country ends up begging for scraps from us.
And since the 60s we've done nothing but let them all run the country.

>>712379990
Yep. His death in 3 was lame but keeping him around was a good choice. He added some much needed personality to the UNSC

>>712391546
>BUT WAIT ALMOST EVERYONE SPEAKS ONLY ENGLISH , ISNT HUMANITY SUPPOSED TO BE FIGHTING IS ONLY AMERIANS IN BIG CHARGES

English has been the lingua franca of the world ever since WW2 ended. Try to keep up.

As for the Covenant, they can speak english (or at least translate to it. Their first "fuck you, you are gonna get genocided in the name of God" message to humans was in English to begin with. Though I did like it more in CE where they spoke alien WORT WORT WORT only, they should've kept that for Halo 2-3 and have them subtitled. Maybe get a translator module later on as a story upgrade (that you could use on subsequent replays).

>>712370634

My biggest gripe with Reach was making Noble team Spartan III's but giving them Mjolnir armor. It defeats the entire point of III"s. They were meant to be cheap disposable soldiers with SPI armor because Mjolnir and the augments to use it are insanely expensive. From a lore and story telling perspective, it would have made more sense just to make them II's instead of retconning III's into basically being II's with a different label

If youre gonna kit them out like II's and treat them like II's just call them II's and stop pretending the lore still makes sense. I also hated the stupid power ranger colors. Should have made them all green and wear the same mjolnir armor with just a few differences in attachments. Looks way more intimidating and they actually looks like serious spec ops that theyre supposed to be

>>712379990
Funny you mention Aliens; Halo is basically the perfect Aliens vs Predator game, with you playing as Robocop.

>>712390598
>>712391295
Nihei's so cool
I'm glad that Tower Dungeon is mostly a return to his roots, less of the dumbass romcom stuff and back to embracing the weird monsters and huge architecture

>>712392157
I can fuck with the explanation that among the III’s, they found a few that fit the genetic profile that Halsey originally used for the II’s, so they could stand to use MJOLNIR. But on the other hand, it was still fucking stupid.

>>712389694
>noooo I didn't pay attention, this game sucks!

>>712392157
>Mjolnir and the augments to use it are insanely expensive

Yeah, and it takes 20 years because you have to genetically profile a bunch of kids from all over colonies for perfect marks, kidnap them, train them from childhood until adolescence, then you give them physiological enhancements that basically kill or cripple half of the group.

And the Mjolnir suits cost "as much as a starship" (possibly billions of dollars) EACH, and have pocket sized nuclear fusion reactors inside.

>>712391546
They don't speak English in the ODST trailer.

>>712392157
This is a fucking elite mod, I was unaware of its existence. I still like the helmet variants though, adds just enough character.

>>712381963

Halo CE made the most sense lore wise. Humanity was fighting against an enemy with plasma weaponry and so the only sorta good defense against that was to slap on literally slaps of armor plating. It was rugged yet futuristic and should the desperation.

really wish they returned to the original aesthetic but with updated graphics instead of just re-using reach assets

How do we make halo cool again? It’s clear zoomers only superficially liked the series with how quickly infinite died.

>>712393141
>giant exposed crotch
Come on now

>>712383916
>muh just nuke everything
It’s a game dickhead

>>712391154
>ODST is a good game imo but it's too short for a full priced game.
It was easily the biggest criticism at the time. The Bungie forum threads about it were glorious

>>712393558
Look man they still need to be able to crouch, they just have to accept they might have a tiny sun incinerate their balls at any given moment.

>>712381963

Tie between CE and H3

Marines were originally inspired by Colonial Marines from Alien. They should go back to that design philosophy with better graphics.

Pic very related. It should look like this

>>712393569
The UNSC was very liberal with their nuke usage to be fair.

>>712393474
The current developers in charge of Halo are incapable of making the series "cool" again no matter how much advice you give them.

>>712391546
Do you just not play the fucking games or something? The marines speak in spanish, french, german and some other languages i don't understand, hell for spanish they even got that latina chick who used to appear in every movie that needed a girlboss character, she's in that shitty resident evil movie.

>>712393961
Liberal? It was basically the primary ordinance of most of their non-capital ships. You don't have to worry about nuclear fallout in space combat.

I hope to god the CE remake goes back to humans are forerunners.

>>712394204
They never will, that plot point was in contention throughout the trilogy, to the point where even in CE you had clear signs that forerunner were their own race, like the hand symbol on all the consoles having a thumb on each side.

>>712381963
Halo 1

>>712394331
I'm guessing whatever they make this stuff out of is lighter than steel because that looks like it would be too heavy to carry for a full day.

>>712394315
What hand symbols? I don’t recall any hand symbols.

>>712394462
It's one of them carbon-poly monomolecule dealios. Basically, feels like plastic, stronger than titanium.

>>712350669
retard

>>712392978
>>712392157
The Spartan 3 augments were much cheaper and safer to administer and the Mjolnir MK V[B] armour was only given to the top of the top Spartan 3's for testing before the Spartan 2s got it. Jorge still had MK IV without the shield but had the giant experimental shield generator on his chest.

>>712381963

the real question is

Which ODST armor had the best design?

>>712395041
so basically bullshit that the writers dont think about for two seconds cuz otherwise why not slap meters of this shit on your tanks and ships to make them invincible

>>712395916
I like all the non-Reach ones, but Halo 2's barely gets the number 1 spot because wearing armor over regular fatigues is cool.

>>712395916
the original one, it looks like a black ops troop. the rest just look generic call of duty marines.

>>712395542
yeah, I know, I actually have the book. he looks at his OG suit but picks the SPI one instead, telling his spartan IIIs that he is one of them now.

>>712395916
Halo 2 has the best non-helmet armour but Halo Infinite has the best helmet.

>>712395916
Halo 3 is the best

>>712395916
I like the Halo 2 ones, they do look like specialists but I have to go with my main man the rookie.
What the actual fuck was 343i thinking killing this character for a shitty book no one read?

>>712395916

the original Halo 2 was the best. you can see the ghost in the shell / anime inspiration

>>712396394
>What the actual fuck was 343i thinking killing this character for a shitty book no one read?
343 are retarded part 314513. Atleast Rookie got a book death unlike Cortana who was killed off between games kek

>>712381963
Halo CE, that green eye thing looked, looks and will look always dope. Also the armor feels futuristic in some cool way. 2 looks too modern, 3 is meh and reach is kinda fine, but it lacks the aura CE has

>>712387942
My question too. Blood Music was good, I guess.

>>712381963
2 anniversary
>muh helmets are too small
So just make them bigger

>>712346219
Halo CE, 2 and 3 took place in a matter of months, not years. Then Johnson was dead. You can also refuse promotion and Johnson sure as shit did because he knows he's best with boots on the ground. The Chief is basically considered an Admiral, but they don't promote him any higher because it'd be a waste of his talents as a Spartan to put him on desk work.

>>712346219
Promoting Chief doesn't actually matter as everyone of any rank will basically listen and do what he says without question.

>>712352902
Isn’t that guy the composer? Why are you blaming him for the story?

>>712395916
all of them except anniversary's look kino, such a fantastic iconic scifi solider design

>>712346558
>>712346219
>enlisted serviceman.
Noncommissioned officer
Corporal, E-4 and above are noncoms

>>712397187
There's a vidoc from Bungie where he admits killing Johnson was his idea as an attempt to create more drama for the ending.

>>712352429
>He's also kind of autistic
That's 343 era lore. Before they fucked him up, John was highly competitive and empathised a ton with soldiers of all kinds, he'd crack one liners all the time because he genuinely loves what he does, he just doesn't like losing people under his command.

>petty ‘officer’ master chief
>not an officer rank
Military bros…

>>712394014
No man, i was just kidding, but i want to play 1,2,3 and reach and the rts too

>>712397354
>all of them except anniversary's

whats wrong with anniversary's?

>>712393474
You can't. Faggots, underages, secondaries and people who consider themselves "literary geniuses" have ruined it or chased away any talent left. Its like Star Wars, Marvel, Star Trek, DND, Warhammer and other franchises that once catered to and respected their niche fandoms before abandoning them for brownie points, clout or suffering from incompetence. As a start Halo would have to be taken away from Microshit and then Microshit would have to issue a public apology and completely denounce the involvement of anyone from the franchise between 2011 to now.

>>712397187
He pushed for their deaths during development to make Chiefs eventual death more impactful and Bungie listened. Which is hilarious because Staten was basically gone for 3 while he was writing a book and came back to Keyes and Johnson dead kek

>>712398019
Be honest, would you really want Johnson alive for the shit show that was 4, 5, and 6? Yeah, didn’t fink so.

>>712396038
Because while good at dealing with small-arms fire, they still get fucking melted by plasma and starship-grade plasma. It's not hard anon.

>>712398120
I would actually, because it’d be funny.

>What our sci-fi action space opera needs is an annoying, Mexican crybaby faggot who bitches and complains constantly about everything and then has to be rescued multiple times

I don't understand what goes on in the minds of 343 writers.

>No no you don't understand, everything HAS to be shitty forced melodrama.

>>712398267
Men have to act like women in media to undo the societal effects of toxic masculinity chud.

>>712396528
>anime inspiration
fuck off, halo is a product of the all American star-ship trooper
i swear /a/ fags are like jeets in trying to tie everything good back to nippon
japan could never create kino like halo

>>712397784
It's not bad and adapts its source design well enough, but it just feels a little more generic to me, too ruck and padding and hadn't gotten its recognizable chest and shoulder pieces yet. I also don't really like that style of blue visor, give me flashbacks to 4's terrible armor design

>>712398375
>Writers are all nu-males who unironically believe in things like toxic masculinity
>So inept at even that the plot of 5 and Infinite only happen because of Cortana having massive woman moments

kek

>>712396980
>it'd be a waste of his talents as a Spartan to put him on desk work.

Only because he is still fit to fight. The Spartans who get wounded so badly that they can't physically fight, they get put into desk work because they still have their superior tactical thinking (trained in tactics since kids + have tons of enhancements). One of the games has a former Spartan II admiral, but I have no clue which one, may have been Halo 4.

But most of the Spartans IIs getting desk jobs are not the ones who got wounded in battle, but the ones who got fucked up by the surgical enhancements they have to go through, think of shit like getting physically deformed or wheelchair bound at worst, being on constant medication at best.
And that was like a third of the kids they trained. Another third outright didn't survive the implants.

>>712398267
To this day I don't even know the plot of Guardians or Infinite, nor any character introduced in them beyond Locke. I'm just completely apathetic to 343's direction of the series. No hatred I just don't care. They could officially crossover Halo with Lord of the Rings and show Master Chief suplexing a Balrog and I just would not care.

>>712399117
It's Halo 4. She was a wash out but was still head and shoulders in cognitive ability above her peers.

>>712399117
All of that changes nothing about the fact we know why Chief hasn't been promoted.

>>712399171
>Master Chief suplexing a Balrog
congrats you invented modern doom

its actually funny how much doom is starting to mirror halos development
guess its karma catching up for giving halo players shit way back

>>712398605
Nta. Halo CE concept art was heavily inspired by anime. I hate anime as much as the next guy but it’s unfortunately true. Bungie were weebs back in the day. Their game preceding halo 2 was a ghost in the shell knock off.

I hope they remake 2 and 3 as one big game after the CE remake so we can get the ball rolling on a new, proper halo 4.

>>712399321
>congrats you invented modern doom
Funny you mention that I was contemplating buying the 2015 Doom and Eternal just the other day out of pure boredom. How bad is it?

>>712399516
Not him but 2016 is good, Eternal is mediocre, and Dark Ages isn't worth playing at all.

>>712398605

>he doesn't know about the 90's anime influence in Halo

anon...

>>712393913
What is this from

>>712399215
He's already the highest rank after getting promoted at the end of Halo 3. Nobody is going to ignore Chief either no matter if they're a higher rank than him, he basically is the de-facto highest rank in the UNSC

>>712399670
Anime influenced a fair amount of Bungie's work. Imagine putting Oni in the memory hole.

>>712399786
Thanks for putting my initial post in slightly different words I guess?

>>712360850
He didn't know how close the ring was to being ready before they got into the control room. If it had been ready to fire then he would have let them use it.

>>712399867
Oh yeah kek I misread your post

based retard

>>712399171
I couldn't even follow Halo 4s plot. Some new aliens showed up and attacked humans because (???)? And oh they may have been the actual Forerunners because fuck the lore.

>>712399350
okay, but in the late 90s/early 00s liking anime meant shit like Ghost in the Shell, Akira, Battle Angel Alita, Iria Zeiram, La Blue Girl, Armitage III, even FLCL. All of those had great art, action, designs, and the cyberpunk ones had either awesome futuristic weaponry or dealt with transhumanism in a way that was very visceral.
Today liking anime means watching moeblob slice of life or Naruto/One Piece episode #1834 or Miyazaki if you are lucky.

Oh and thanks for reminding me: Bungie also did Oni, which was kick ass, even if it was rushed and could've been better.

>>712400182
Western game devs were indeed deeply in love with Japanese cyberpunk from the 90s

>>712345532 (OP)
Sgt Johnson was part of the Orion Program and was a Spartan 1. He also fought thr Covies since day one on Harvest and if you read any of the books you would know that you LORELET fag.

>>712387450
Literally just introduce new Aliens?
>species formerly expelled and expunged from the Covenant comes back to fuck shit up
>new aliens who have nothing to do with prior conflicts make their play at galactic dominion
>formerly primitive aliens but very recently uplifted rapidly by discovering wreckage from a human/covvie ship that's in orbit over their world or crashed on it, either by a surviving now rampant a.i. or just being smart enough to reverse engineer it and make forward leaps faster than anyone thinks possible

lots of angles

>>712399812
Fun fact about Oni. Take Two considered making a sequel and tasked Angel Games with it, but it was just engine demos without any ideas on what it should be about. The engine ran impressive enough on consoles that Angel Games got bought up entirely by Rockstar, and it then got to power Grand Theft Auto 4/5/6 and Red Dead Redemption and its sequels.

And some of Onis art was done by Jacen Burrows who is most well known for his art on Crossed (yes, he drew the Horsecock guy).

>>712400409
Wasn't that just Halo 4s plot? New aliens appear and wreck shit?

>>712400182
>kay, but in the late 90s/early 00s liking anime meant shit like Ghost in the Shell, Akira,

Halo was literally developed in the late 90's/early 00's you fucking retard. The same time as those animes that you mentioned influenced. 90's Cyberpunk animes and Aliens (specifically the colonial marines) are the 2 biggest influences on the designs in Halo. This is a well known fact stupid fuck

>>712383916
>Can't use nukes cause they're on the other side of planet?
>"All our Nukes are either Out of system or went down with the ships that carried them"
Stop posting this retarded copypasta

>>712400630
The Prometheans were like Forerunners who digitize their minds to survive the rings? I forget it's been forever since i played that shitter.

>>712400659
That was the exact point I'm making. Do you have brain damage?

>>712401169
/a/ fags are not know for thinking or having any brain due to it being coomed out long ago

>>712401169
>>712401231
Your first post was having a melty over someone saying halo was anime inspired

>>712346219
He's not a sergeant hes a sergeant major basically the highest enlisted rank
>t.army

>>712401338
>Your first post was having a melty over someone saying halo was anime inspired
Read it again, my post was making the point that Halo was still influenced by the GOOD anime from the 90s, not the boring shonen / moeblob crap of today, so Halo being influenced by anime was a good thing.

>>712401231
>/a/ can't comprehend written language

>>712400320
To this day I don't know why someone hasn't done a model swap/upgrade for SHOGO, it desperately needs one

>>712383916
>Only 20 orbital mac stations as opposed to Earth's 300
Halo Encyclopedia, not Reach.
>When Covenant forces land in the middle of a desert on Reach, instead of bombarding the entire area with missles, artillery and nukes, UNSC launches full frontal assault with warthogs and tanks?
Lost most of their nuclear arsenal in the opening years of the Human-Covenant war, and the Covenant are known to Target nuclear stockpiles, if you bothered actually reading those books
>Artillery and Missiles
The full force of the army is Cloaked, and the majority were revealed to be under Shield canopies.
>When Covenant supercarrier is revealed, again instead of bombarding it with every available asset they have including nukes, they retreat on their own planet?
They do deploy vessels with nukes, and they lose them.
>Can't use nukes cause they're on the other side of planet? (Apparently ICBM's don't exist)
>"All nukes are off system or went down with the ships that carried them..."
Reach's arsenal is mostly on orbital platforms scattered throughout the system.
>Apparenly military stronghold planet doesn't have any anti air defense or scrambles every available ship to try to overwhelm it
Wow it turns out that the Shields on a Covenant Supercarrier are, in fact, strong. How about that.
>Original lore, Reach falls in 24 hours yet game retcons it to a month which makes no sense
Because the initial force was a reclamation unit like what we saw at earth. Though unlike Regret's fleet, this one was aware that reach was a human-controlled world.

>>712401570
Was it though?

>anime inspiration
fuck off, halo is a product of the all American star-ship trooper
i swear /a/ fags are like jeets in trying to tie everything good back to nippon
japan could never create kino like halo

>>712401728
>Was it though?
Yes, and if you were capable of reading the entire sentence from start to finish, you'd understand that.

What if it become the middle east of the galaxy because we managed to import Christianity across the stars, and half of the galaxy is preoccupied with the events of some backwater planet because they think their god happened to be born there?

>>712401942
wearylookingfrog.jpg

>>712370272
why did you have this on hand? How long have you been mad at Karen Traviss?

>>712402193
reminds me of momokun lmao

>>712401037
Someone once told me they turned themselves into space dust that got eaten by Forerunner alien livestock that spread to them and other species to become The Flood. And I'm just sitting here thinking that leaving the mystery of their existence is more interesting than some Family Guy tier origin story.

>>712402385
Redditors will claim it's more complicated and interesting than that but no you pretty much nailed it. It's really stupid.

>>712402385
i read your post to the tune of all star and it fits pretty nice

>>712381963
halo ce = sovl
halo 2 = souless
halo 3 = soulsless
halo reach = tetsuya nomura

>>712358449
He says "I think I got nicked" and flatlines. It's only then they discover he had a whole mess of Needler explode his side earlier in the fight.

>>712402604
>>712402385
https://voca.ro/1viMvckkRCGN
I couldn't make the last part fit but the rest lines up nice

>>712390430
but battlefield told me I go from private to 5 star general by shooting enough people

>>712369415
>pretty sure it was the blast from a hunters cannon
That Spartan got vaporized with only bootprints remaining. Was sick seeing hand to hand with a Hunter pair stopping all the other Covies in their tracks.

>>712403047
Yeah, that was it. Great moment.

>>712367695
Gaming is healing

>>712402385
That was the Precursors. Promethians are just another Forerunner AI faction.

>>712384879
>instead of dying at the end of the game you die at the end of each mission
>the next mission you're one of the increasingly smaller number of spartans
It would have been kino

>>712384286
>due to a combo of spartan one augmentation and the flood infestor form being giga old as shit the process wasn't able to take control of him
>was able to flee the facility
>at some point grouped up with some other survivors and they boarded a pelican, soon after chief blows up the autumn and thus the ring
>eventually make contact with chiefs longsword
>got on bored siad longsword but chief nearly shots johnson on the spot because he suspected he was infected (later showed he did have flood cells in his blood stream but due to the mentioned aboved they were inert, chief later on destroyed knowledge of this)
>eventually he, chief, and the other survivors hijack a covenant ship, go back to reach to pick up any remaning survivors, jury rig an UNSC frigate onto said covie ship with the help of engies, and blow up a massive covenant fleet that was preparing to invade earth
>followed by then going back to earth

>>712385353
>whatever their facehugger balloon things are called, it's been too long
just infection form

>>712384879
Bungie never particularly liked the books, but Microsoft insisted on them. Reach was basically a middle finger to them.

>>712366395
>Rank and Pay Grade are the same at all times.
>can make far more money off of his status than whatever an O-10 is paid.
OK I'm an idiot, these sound contradictory

>>712406512
only initially did bungie dislike the books, granted they didn't hold them up as something to always follow, but at time went on their opinions about the books changed, odsts are a perfect example since they hated the idea at first but within a few years added them to halo 2

>>712406512
Bungie should've liked the books cause they used concepts Nylund invented like the ODSTs without any reservation / credit given.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbhoNpcXZ_k&list=LL&index=253

this interview is the only thing I've found from someone actually intimately involved in both writing dialogue for the game, and who was an editor for Fall of Reach

>>712390449
Not if his separation was...awkward.

t. Terminal lance.

>>712395542
>Mjolnir MK V[B] armour was only given to the top of the top Spartan 3's for testing before the Spartan 2s got it.

Retarded fucking retcon. Only II's can wear mjolnir. End of story

>>712388305
>+ socially awkward weirdos would make terrible soldiers

The books had Master Chiefs first lesson in Spartan Camp being that it doesn't matter if he wins if his team loses, forcing him to socialize, at least with his team mates. So Spartans do socialize as far as that goes, they have their own secret childhood signals and shit like that.

>>712401037
Been a while since I played 4 (and I'm not replaying 4's campaign and Spartan Ops, which is where the actual answer is) but I don't think it was exclusively Forerunners. I think they make a few more using the Composer during Spartan Ops.
>Halo 4 was released in 2012
Christ, no wonder I can't remember any of this shit.
>>712402385
Like the other guy said, you're thinking of Precursors. Which have a mostly fucking stupid story, but I actually like the super basic version of "we turned ourselves into the Flood to fuck over the Forerunners". It just starts to suck when you look at the details. (Which is exactly why you don't need to answer every single question about your setting, leave some of it mysterious.)

>>712407021
weren't ODSTs already in Halo CE? I remember drop pods in those with troops exiting from there. Nylund may have only given them the name.

>>712408154
the way the prometheans worked was that the initial patch were made from elite forrunner warriors, but when the didact realized it simply wasn't enough to deal with the fuck huge amount of blood he targetted regular humans which is what got him imprisoned, that and the people who were unlucky to be in new phoenix during halo 4s finale also suffered a similiar fate, but at the end of the day they all look the same regardless of origin

>>712408210
I don't remember any ODSTs or even indications of ODSTs in CE. Could be wrong. There are the escape pods you escape the Autumn on, but those are like Star Wars escape pods.

>>712346219
Master Chief deliberately shot down being promoted into an admiral because he's not comfortable giving orders.

>>712408210
>>712408360
ODSTs weren't in the game or even intended to be in the game, but in the novelization of the game they are there (for example the marines that go wtih you during ToaR level were odsts in said book) that and you have the fireteam raven arcade game that follows an odst team during the events of halo CE

>>712406628
>OK I'm an idiot, these sound contradictory
Rank/Pay Grade is the money they are paid by the military.

The money they "make off of their status" is basically having everyone on Earth wanting to interview him and make movies of his life and shit. MC could just sell the rights to his life story and live in full luxury for the rest of his life. That's not even mentioning the insane job openings he could get as a 208cm tall jacked freak with muscles, speed, and tactical thinking far exceeding anyone who has ever lived. Countries could ask him for military advice/training, he could get a million dollar per day fee as a bouncer to some Elon Musk type mofo, etc etc etc.

>>712396038
You can make the argument that it's a compromise in order to lessen the carry weight burden of the individual soldier. All things considered, the chest plate could probably take 1-2 well placed plasma bolt impacts before already getting melted through.

SAPI's issued by US forces are ceramic and rated for 7.62 (off top of my head x39 I think) but iirc they can take like 5 direct shots before being too degraded and that's assuming no defects or hadn't been dropped/thrown around TOO much by the rock-eater issued it. There ARE steel plate inserts that are even thinner (volume-wise) than the ceramic SAPI's, but are heavy af. More than likely, the standard to brush aside plasma bolts (at least in Halo's universe) is either steel, titanium, or some 26th century alloy that is tough but heavy as dick. Makes sense to put it on vehicles, but expecting the average trooper to carry it would affect performance.
>inb4 lift more faggot
In the 26th century it's probably incredibly easier to do so, but why insist on carrying heavy when can just compromise and go lighter to carry other shit? Pic semi-unrelated.

>>712393987
They put a project lead that hates guns and the mililtary on. Why the fuck would that person work on halo, much less lead the project?

>>712383916
>The entire game should have been like the CoD MW2 Washington DC levels. Pure panic, desperation and dread

say what you want about MW2, but the washington dc levels had such an amazing apocalyptic atmosphere. same with crysis 2 and gears of war with the e-day flashbacks. would have been cool if the timeline of the game was just 24hrs

>>712345532 (OP)
He's not just any Sergeant though. He's Sgt. Johnson.

Big fucking difference.

>>712402193
>>712402375
https://youtu.be/FbNQ9oHtwtM?si=xUD99fT4PpLc3_dX

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>>712409431
arma 3 mods are so fucking good

>>712345532 (OP)
>some random sergeant
wasn't he in a precursor group to the Spartans? He isn't some random sergeant he is elite calibur in the ranks of Master Chief