Thread 712362234

Why did you wait too long to start making money by playing video games (the thing you already do for countless hours)?

>>712362234 (OP)
I don't like it when the streamer thanks everyone who follows or subs. I find that annoying. I understand why you would do it, that makes sense. It still bugs me enough to leave.

>>712362234 (OP)
if anything I can still get on the Kick boat once being racist gets profitable

>>712362234 (OP)
because streaming is not fun when you are a small creator. It's an overglorified customer service babysitting job that makes less than working in fast food.

You probably wouldn't understand that unless you tried streaming before. It's boring as fuck.

>>712362234 (OP)
from what ive seen, streaming is brutal and sduper hard to grow a viewership from. either you must be an esports pro so good at the gamer hundreds want to watch, or be a cartoon character/ jester which honestly is very hard to do as well.

I'm trying to grow, how do I attract based anons as viewers and not troons

>>712362234 (OP)
Better late than never. My first YT payout arrives this month, so that's pretty cool. I've been working hard on my channel for a while now and I'm going to start streaming more. Started up again last week with Kirby's Dream Land. I had a lot of fun with it. Since I convert everything to main channel vids, I just treat the stream as a regular recording. I know my main channel won't get views, but it's been pretty disheartening that my clips channel gets absolutely nothing. So I'll drop a clip here and the twitch channel. I encourage other anons to drop links to their channels. I enjoy watching what you guys are up to.

https://youtu.be/rVYinhod0Lk?si=sXHud2u_h4b8jshS

https://www.twitch.tv/mostlypositivechannel

>>712362695
Agreed. Most people that succeed based on personality have the same stuff that would have made radio show hosts or TV personalities several decades ago. Do I play video games for hours on end? Yes. Am I an entertainer? No. There isn't a market for boring commentary.

My online gamer friend of 25 years finally kind or took off on twitch late last year. He has 25 pretty routine active views when he streams. He was sub 10 before that with hardly any interaction but now he's really got people and sone of these people will gift like 50 subs. I kinda stopped going into his twitch chat since I noticed he favors all his new followers over old friends. I told him spamming max ads constantly to non subs was 9ff putting and not good for growth but he didn't stop until his new discord support groups started. Anyway its kind of cultists behavior and half his streams now is him saying Jesus christ thank you so much to g8fters. He's a morbidly obese middle aged black man so I guess anyone can make it.

>>712368112
That's pretty cool he has an audience now, but shame about the deteriorating friendship. What kind of stuff does he stream?

>>712362234 (OP)
I'm very lazy.

>>712363649
Get lucky like Vinny did and have your logo and link freeze on /v/'s front page during a posting shutdown

Why would you WANT to become a streamer? Half of the fuckers sound miserable because they're essentially an adult babysitter.

>>712362234 (OP)
I'm working on it

I am a fat retard not an entertainer
you have to be one of the all time greats to get big based on game skill

>>712362234 (OP)
I don't have nice tits.

>>712368112
It's a job, not a hobby. He is doing it for money first and foremost, not for other people to enjoy.

>>712369149
He streams mostly single player AAA goyslop except for when he's playing with his new friends or discord where they play flavor of the month streamer bait as of late. I'm happy for him but yeah kinda changed his personality a bit.

>>712362234 (OP)
There were 1 viewer streamers back in 2011 too.

>>712369832
He has a full time wfh job and streams nearly every night after work. My advice about him cooling off ads was goid advice that he eventually took from his paypiggy cult friends. Nobody wants to click some small stream and be greeted with 2 minutes of ads and then 8-12 30 second ads like every 10 minutes. I also got tired of him crying about being a single earner with muh bills when that's fuckin easy as shit compared to a guy with a family. I don't have the luxury to sit back on my fat ass playing 6 hours of games a night waiting to hit the lottery like he did.

Reminder that successful streamers arefrom relatively rich families and have years of experience.

>>712362234 (OP)
I do this because I want to, the money goes to cover my art addiction.

>>712370730
>>712369615
link channel or you're a coward

>>712370557
>have years of experience.
Yeah, duh. But what is your other point about? That regular youngsters can't afford to stream, or something?

>>712370785
I'm a male vtuber

>>712369615
44 cents an hour streaming

>>712362234 (OP)
You don't make money if you are not a nice extroverted retard for the masses that plays normal-fag slop.

>>712370882
Thankfully not my main job, though it is a nice bonus every month.

>>712370998
I think the side hustle is catching just a few parasocial friendships who just give you money and not actually blowing up with lots of viewers

>>712371251
>I think the side hustle is catching just a few parasocial friendships who just give you money and not actually blowing up with lots of viewers
This is the goal. The key is networking, you will never make it on your own. You have to integrate in an established community.

>>712370858
Yes. The quality matters. There are some first world countries where internet is cheap and PC-parts are abundant, but the majority of people in the world are poor, so it's not as easy to become a streamer as one might imagine. If you are IRL streamer (which is a little off-topic, true) you need a server, extra flagship phone, microphone... the costs add's up. If you stream at home you still need decent lighting, scene, camera, microphone, and a PC that can handle all tasks. Basically it is not something you can pick up in Venezuela and turn your life around.

>>712362234 (OP)
>twitch
this site literally became unusable years ago I dont see how people can watch anybody on it now

>>712362234 (OP)
I am too edgy and I can't stop you fucking nigger.

>>712371576
https://github.com/pixeltris/TwitchAdSolutions
install on ublock or tampermonkey
>"it doesnt work for me!"
works on my machine, maybe try a different browser

>>712371576
It was never usable. One of the most resource hungry, user unfriendly websites I've ever seen.

>>712362234 (OP)
Streaming yourself playing games is not a sustainable, long-term career path. Extremely few find enough of an audience to make a living, fewer still make enough to live a middle-class lifestyle. There's also the understated fact that you're wasting your talents and ambition playing games for several hours a day for years on end only to spend your off time doing the exact same thing. It won't take long before you'll come to see games as work and lose not only your livelihood but a hobby as well.

>>712371410
Is there an unc community where I don't have to pvp Asmongold for attention? i don't want to learn all the skibidi.

>>712371825
Retro category I guess?

>>712362234 (OP)
Because I'm not pathetic enough to beg kids for money

>>712371497
>Basically it is not something you can pick up in Venezuela and turn your life around.
I can see your point, but at the same time, that sounds rather farfetched and needlessly blackpilled.

It sucks to be poor of course, no matter where you live.

>>712371825
Probably >>712371901 and just raid regulars in that category, then eventually they'll raid you. Maybe.

>>712371776
I'd do it instead of my current job wearing put my body and am too sore to play with my kids but I'm not that entertaining

>>712362234 (OP)
Streaming is hard work, I'd rather do something less annoying.

>>712372003
Yeah I exaggeratte a little bit to drive my point across, but those are my honest thoughts/excuses I took into consideration after I thought about becoming a streamer.
One unrelated fear I have is attracting the wrong crowd. It doesen't happen very often, but there are stories about people doxing themselves and turning into lolcows who can't even sleep at night or gaining a crazy stalker.

>>712373973
It's easier if you're American because to quell your fear of stalkers you can carry a gun

>>712373973
anon...stop living your life in fear and just do what you want

>>712362616
This. I don't even want to be pessimistic about the whole thing, but streaming isn't fun unless you have people in the chat to bounce off of, and if you want to grow an audience in order to make it fun for yourself, then you're not really "playing video games for a living" anymore, you're becoming a content creator for a living.

What really bums me out is that I always did talk to myself like an audience was watching even before lets plays, I just never had enough confidence to stream once it became a thing.

>>712374505
No one says you have to do it alone. Stream with a buddy. My friend shows up in a lot of my stuff cause we just play games together. He's always fine being in recordings or streams, but I always make sure to ask anyways. We treat it as any other gaming session. He has nothing to do with the channel, he's just there cause we're buddies and he's cool with that.

>ruin your hobby by turning it into a shit paying job
Gee I wonder

Can we stop exaggerating the hard work shit. It's literally not
. If you think it is, you never worked a real job. Some people probably put a lot of effort in and wprk harder than others but shits not actually hard work for most of the big guys

>>712375527
No shit, having more money means less work because you can just pay some jobber to do all the dog shit work for you. This is true for literally every profession the hard work is getting to that point or just getting lucky.

I have more fun being creative in other respects that aren't video games and that doesn't translate well to the tiktok content drip feed and if I didn't do this I'd feel like killing myself

>>712375527
You're basically a self employed contractor retard who has to learn and apply all the shit yourself while exposing yourself to the scrutiny of the perpetually unemployed who are all mentally ill and are looking for opportunities to ruin someone's day/life. It's not roofing in summer heat hard, but it is a lot of shit no one really wants to do you're essentially a front line public servant with no manager to lean back on when the screeching begins.

>>712374840
It's never too late anon :)

>>712362234 (OP)
I'm too much of a chud and the normie mask would slip off and I'd do a pewdiepie eventually.

>>712362234 (OP)
>Twitch
What if I don't openly hate Jews though?

>>712379084
Just wish some US soldiers PTSD and you're good.

>>712362234 (OP)
1) I'm not good at video games.
2) I'm not charismatic.
3) Being famous these days is a curse. The money would be nice though.

>>712379191
How the fuck is mainstream media not constantly reporting stories on some of the insane shit Hasan and his goons say and do. How the fuck has everyone at Twitch not been fired and replaced.

>>712371776
I really wish there was more transparency as to what creators make. I watch this 35 year old qt that plays retro games, she averages about 200 viewers but still works a job during the day, I assume the sub simp money is not enough.

>>712379532
>1) I'm not good at video games.
Not a problem. Neither is the majority of large streamers
>2) I'm not charismatic.
Most of the largest streamers are genuinely vile people
>3) Being famous these days is a curse. The money would be nice though.
Believe in the power of Christ and he'll help you overcome any evils and temptations the Devil may put in your path.

>>712362234 (OP)
I'm not good enough of a player to warrant the serious viewers, and i'm not extra enough like the clueless retards.
I'm just a normie by gamer metrics. And i dont have tits so inflatable pools won't make a difference

>>712379662
Mask off Hasan is some deep lore dweeb shit. Mainstream sees Hasan as a paragon of progressives. I saw some thing on Fox News about it once, but outside of Asmongold/Destiny no one cares. Twitch leadership is disgusting tho the fucking how do you do fellow kids gooner grandpa at the helm singing happy brithday to a terrorist propagandist is insane.

>>712379869
There's definitely a number of creators who have been transparent with what they make. There's a video by Let'sKanz who shared his earning after MoistCritikal showed his. Much smaller creator and it's pretty insightful. As for your 35 year old qt, I think it depends for everyone. I could get by with 600 a month after taxes, but I also live with my family and have very little to pay for. Other people need at least 3-4k a month to scrape. Some streamers might be lucky and have a small but very generous audience. Others are lucky to have a large audience and can make some decent money from ads. Lots of different factors to consider

I didn't want this happening to me

>>712380730
I thought he was jacked. This your streamerman?

>>712379417
It's so fucking difficult trying to decipher those who don't type whole sentences correctly.

>>712362234 (OP)
I'd never stream with a face cam and I'd never interact with chat
also my internet has always been too shit because I've always lived out in the woods

>>712370876
based

>>712362234 (OP)
My parents told me it was a stupid idea. This was in the early 2000s when almost nobody was doing it. I could've been a millionaire.

>>712380785
He stopped eating sugar and he looks better now

>>712383319
you could also roll negative iq and be dsp.

>>712382858
I had a fag that was SUPER fucking into all the twitch-isms like the whole adding -ge to every word thing like calling things "deadge" or being "madge", it was so fucking grating I literally stopped streaming because of that and related shit from him. I had a nice cozy little channel in a really small niche, averaged like 5-10 viewers but this one NEET retard just ruined it. I didn't want to ban him or anything because he was one of the only other people streaming the game, small community etc but fuck maybe I should have.

>>712383887
sadge

I've recently started to hit partner numbers and submitted my first partner application, I think when I get back I'll start doing a partner push

my community is very great and seems to genuinely love video games so they're fun to talk to and interact with, but I think that's partially need I primarily stream in the retro category

https://www.twitch.tv/harumizukich

>pander constantly
>fate decided by tranny donators

I spend a majority of my free time defaming their business. I will win, the corporations will fall like they always do

>>712362234 (OP)
It was over before it even began because I’m stuck in nsfw limbo for two decades.

>>712384498
Find Christ my friend. He can lead you to salvation.

I'm a private person, I don't want to dox myself on the internet.

>>712384102
I remember seeing you around a while back, good on you.

>>712384898
This is my biggest concern. I don't want to have to justify myself to randoms online.

>>712362234 (OP)
I dont play games though

>>712386467
thank you, I love my audience so I want to be around for as long as I can, they mean a lot to me

>>712362234 (OP)
I am a stay at home father. I only play games with my children before and after homeschooling them. None of the games I play are the ones I want.

>>712362616
>It's boring as fuck.
only if you're streaming garbage and your chat is worthless
i had a blast streaming afgg tourneys back in the day but those days are long gone and while the idea of streaming is appealing, the process of culivating a """"""community""""""" is a terrible fucking process so ill agree with you on that front, particularly now that the whole of the internet is completely and utterly fucking insufferable to be around

>>712362234 (OP)
I refuse to use twitch so long as Hasan Piker is allowed to bend and break the rules openly. I will stay poor on youtube

Because Ive been racist and edgy so long I have no hope for my ability to not say some bannable shit like retarded(or one of my homies say some bannable shit like retarded) offhandedly

>>712362234 (OP)
In 2025 best way to become a content creator is literally stream shit and make 10-20 min video of the stream and post it on youtube. I know a guy with 2 viewer got lucky with youtube algorithm and now he gets 50-70 viewer regularly and that was his first video in the channel. I would stream but I don't think my rx 6600xt can handle streaming

>>712390883
>Got lucky
>gets 50-70 viewers
You mean 50-70k? I could film myself brushing my fucking teeth and get 70 views....

>>712362234 (OP)
Because I was poor as dirt and couldn't get a proper PC for years, but now that I finally built it, I'm researching little by little on how to start streaming, with my goal being streaming as a vtuber. I already have the general idea and theme, but I need to translate it to paper, and I'd like to re-learn some 3D modeling and animation.

>>712391034
from 2 viewer to 50-70 in one day is being lucky you dumb fuck? Don't you know how many streams out there can't get to 10

>>712362234 (OP)
I've been partnered since 2017 and vtube as my loli wife for years now, I didn't wait for anything

>>712390692
Can you really not say retarded? I get nigger and faggot and whatnot, but I thought retarded was still semi-acceptable and kind of actually having a comeback.

>>712391698
Its inconsistent. If youre calling like....white people or jews or republicans retarded thats cool, but if you just say "Nah I dont like that thats retarded" you risk getting hall monitored.

>>712369832
Coming from a successful e-creator that mentality is fucking retarded. Those people are there because he provides a value, even if he doesn't explicitly recognize it. Where most people fuck up after getting traction is by misinterpreting people's reaction to their value as reactions to them. That's where anons friend is starting to develop an ego, even though he still has to WORK a full-time job to support his streaming HOBBY.

And I hated the thought of begging for survival, you've lost the game when your subs are going directly to your bills. The REAL way to make it is to create searchable videos on YouTube then funnel those people into stream. Thereby you multiply revenue sources. I'm rambling but your friends attitude gets to me, I've watched many people reach his level then fall tf off after one bad season.

>a decade ago
>/v/ says streaming will never beat getting a real job
>getting a real job sucks while all the people that started streaming a decade ago now get to relax with their monthly income that makes more than a real job

I should have continued streaming instead of getting a degree and a real job.

>>712390692
Moriko (BatAtVideogames) says retarded on a daily basis and she streams on Twitch without issues, and I believe Calebhart also throws the word here and there. I think it just depends on the audience you cultivate.

>>712391989
>just spend 10+ years exclusively playing fotmslop against your will for paypiggy bucks
Id sooner greet at walmart

>>712384102
Keep up the good work bro, dont let the haters get you down

I'm too autistic to stream but not too autistic to work a dead end physical labor job.

>>712390280
>spoiler
But Silent still hosts tournies.

>>712392349
Silent is from /fgg/ anonymous, you silly sausage. The other one was the stupid cousin

>>712375527
It's incredibly difficult to be a successful online creator, do not let the visage of .01% at the top fool you. They have set up entire teams around themselves to make their job as ergonomic as possible. One of the biggest barriers for small creators is scale, because you have to record, edit, publish, and promote every video you make yourself. And that speaks nothing to the time spent conceptualizing, refining branding, or simply learning.

>>712362234 (OP)
I am not good enough to win tournaments, I am not astroturfed enough to gain viewers despite being shit at videogames and I would rather create games

>>712362234 (OP)
Because I value my sanity because once you get big enough you essentially get stalked for a living and one little misstep and you will have those people act like the people that stalks LTG you will never live up to the image your fanboy thinks of you as and you really shouldn't but its a very thin line between love and hate

crazy enough i have a free layup being a nigga that plays dota 2 you dont see many of them aka 0 so i would have a free lane to myself

Im relatively devout in my faith and I think that alone would kill most of my upward momentum considering how gay and secular the internet is

>>712370858
If you have no money in the bank you are not going to put all your eggs in one basket and bet on making it through streaming

>>712392731
if christian game reviews is still a thing then you can sure as shit get a channel running

>>712393106
Im also not meek and gentle like those guys at christ centered gamer or Father whatever plays, so youd likely catch me in embarassing situations where I lose my temper for people being gay in chat

>>712392119
I don't actually dealt with more of that then I was getting started than I do now, believe it or not! I think once you're a bit established you're less easy of a target for people who want to rain on your parade. thank you so much though, I'll keep going as long as I can

>>712362234 (OP)
because i'm not entertaining in the slightest
unless people thinkg someone screaming at video games and breaking shit is fun

>>712392615
Streaming game creation is unironically an untapped market. You are appealing to every aspiring indie developer who is earlier into their career than you. But you would have to make YouTube videos as well, tutorial style tips and tricks. Look at pirate software, he became a successful creator while barely developing anything.

>>712362234 (OP)
Because I remember thinking
1. I didn't want to turn my hobby into a job
2. Streamers are talentless blights akin to your mainstream entertainment leeches, and I had more to offer to the world

>>712362234 (OP)
>AI jews are killing it1
Already am. Ples subsribe for trip to israel.

I hate how twitch chat is text only, I wish twitch would let you jump in and voice chat with the streamer, sounds fucking insane but when it's the small 5-15 viewer streamers I don't see why not

>>712362234 (OP)
this website is incredibly inhumane

did a stream today, as usual with 0 viewers.
but today i got my first msg from someone who i belive was not a bot. he ask how i was doing, i didnt immediately reply because im not used to having msgs, but about 30-40 seconds after sending that he send another msg asking wtf was my problem and why i was talking to him.
it was my first real viewer and my first ban.

>>712394491
why i wasnt talking to him*

becoming a big streamer will literally ruin your brain. nobody actually cares about you either it's just some fucked up circumstance that happens to be happening

>>712392541
He would at least invite the afgg bros sometimes. Also Baron and Fear will be missed. I especially liked Baron's restreams of niche Japanese tournaments and hope he managed to land on his feet after banishing himself from games and general net.

you become a big streamer? your real life friends will seethe with jealousy and actively sabotage your career

>>712394598
I became successful at 32 years old and it's the best way it could have happened. I make no assumptions that most people are invested in me as a person. Rather, it's the value I provide through information and entertainment. Part of it is being an avatar, like doing gaming challenges that most people would never take the time to do or holding ideas that many are too dumb or afraid to vocalize. But once you stop being useful the collective eye WILL shift. Accept that and I think you can enjoy the ride just fine while it lasts.

>>712369832
>Job
>Less than 50 viewers
Kek. A big ol' kek at that

>>712394616
>Baron banished himself
what a horrible time to be alive

I don't have the personality for streaming.

>>712362234 (OP)
I didn't, I'm not some extroverted narcissist normalfag with a need for constant attention.

I liked streaming because I had a few cool regulars and lurkers and it felt like going to a bar or something. It's extremely autistic but I kinda liked having this social outlet where I could be cool and familiar with people but not have them on any friend list or social platform where they could contact me outside of the stream, like it's entirely on my terms. After having a bunch of really close friendships and circles turn to shit over time I'm overly selective and shit about who I let in close, so it was nice to get small doses of socialization like that. Streaming isn't an every/any game thing for me and the games I really enjoyed streaming went to shit.
I kinda do think I could have had some very moderate success if I did all the gay twitch sellout stuff like channel points for annoying redemptions, jerking people off for following, making meme emotes, playing more popular stuff even within my niche, making a discord, and all of that shit but I hate all that shit with a passion, I was happy with my little hangout with just gameplay + music + banter. ~5 to maybe 10 active chatters is the genuinely the sweet spot for a comfy time in my opinion, much more than that just isn't fun or comfortable for me.

You need either tits or charisma to stream successfully, and I have neither. I tried for 3 years but almost never broke more than 10 average viewers.

>>712362234 (OP)
I often larp about having interactions in a streamer world in a form of daydream/showerthought monologues weighing in on the current meta/drama and so forth in my own private schizorants, but I'd never do it because I know for a fact it'd be nothing like the daydream and it'd just ruin the experience for me with shit ass reality.

>>712366403
buy a fucking ad

>>712362234 (OP)

i dont need to make money playing videogames , i have a job

I want to stream fighting games but I’m too nervous. I feel like people expect you to play online if you’re a fighting game streamer and I already feel too nervous to play ranked online when I’m not streaming. It would just be so much worse if I tried to do it while streaming.

>>712399617
Mom's spaghetti will you capture it or just let it slip.

>>712362695
I feel like people only look at the top streamers that make actual money as the end goal or making it. But even getting a constant 10 - 20 viewers is already a huge accomplishment. Imagine wanting to play Monster Hunter or whatever, you can send a message out on your Discord and probably find three viewers who’d want to play with you on a moments notice. If you already have group of friends to play with, I guess it wouldn’t matter as much. But if you’re a lonelyfag, having a small community to play vidya with is a fucking huge win.

Sure, being a streamer and making money for nothing sounds pretty sweet. Then you become popular, all kinds of eyes are on you now, some of those eyes want to stalk you. Take VTubers for instance. How many of them have stalkers?

>>712362234 (OP)
Twitch is a terrible platform for small creators trying to grow. Channels that already have a large following are prioritized and given extra visibility and exposure while those struggling at the bottom and left to swim with the sharks. The game is just rigged against you.

>>712401014
It's a game of networking. If you can make money moves irl you can do it in this space as well. The upside on twitch is huge, but so is the potential to trigger the horde.

>>712400673
>Take VTubers for instance. How many of them have stalkers?
A lot of Twitch streamers, mainly the more popular female ones, have no one to blame but themselves, they are the ones who cultivate those kind of fanbases in the first place and when they fuck up, it blows on their faces really hard.

>>712400673
>Take VTubers for instance. How many of them have stalkers?
Do you imagine them having more - or less - stalkers, compared to regular streamers? What a weird example to take...

>>712402365
>they are the ones who cultivate those kind of fanbases
I don't think I agree, but the thing is, even if they DON'T "cultivate" anything like that, someone is going to stalk them, regardless. It's the sad reality of lots of guys being very lonely and some of them being also mentally ill.

>>712362234 (OP)
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https://www.youtube.com/@DuplicitousDark

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>>712379532
>1) I'm not good at video games.
You think even half the e-bitches know how to play. some simp is playing for them while they chat and show tits
>2) I'm not charismatic.
neither are guys like shitmongold, Donkeyshit, or Fartiplier

>3) Being famous these days is a curse. The money would be nice though.
Being famous/attention brings cash

>>712399617
dude the zero to hero journey of a FG streamer makes you relatable. u'll take a lot of beatings though.

>>712362616
lowkey

I used to stream tarkov and I encouraged people to try to stream snipe me and I just wanted to make people angry and I would usually turn them over and get them to stay but when theres only 2-3 people or one person talking in chat it can get pretty dead or boring or those 2 people get anxious

>>712405772
>Being famous/attention brings cash
Not necessarily, not automatically. There are lots of people online, with surprising amounts of fame, but nothing so show for it.

Like, pretty much every person involved in "meme images", for example.

>>712362234 (OP)
managed streamers like those loud mouth niggers Cenat/IshowSlow employ an army of fiver jeets to flood the chats. Manufactured e-celebs.

>>712406013
That pressure you feel when you're the only person in chat is not for everyone.

>>712406218
gotta start somewhere. Andrew Tate was doing Big Brother, hateful Tate video series, self-development grifting and showing up in sea level podcasts years ago b4 he turned into Top G.

>>712406514
Sure, having mad drive makes things more probable. But that is a different kind of argument.

I'm sure there are plenty of timelines where he's a total nobody.

>>712406269
Who's paying for that? Plus we saw the sperglord army emerge when Kai summoned them that one time.

>>712397090
10 average viewers is more than most.

>>712362234 (OP)
>I would totally have become a twitch millionaire if i started 10 years ago!!!!!
No, you wouldn't.
Countless people like you have tried to do the same thing ever since people started making money on Twitch and Youtube.
Only the top few percentage of streamers actually make any money by streaming.

To think that YOU would be one of them is laughable.

>>712406770
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_(company)

>>712406956
Why?

I had a shit PC that couldn't stream when it was taking off. Anyway games and twitch is dying in general. All the streamers are tired 30+ year olds now.

Twitch stopped being fun. Nobody cool is on there anymore. The only who still use the site are sociopathic simp farmers and the saddest most pathetic simps

>>712362234 (OP)
>JUST WHORE YOURSELF
>SELL YOUR IMAGE LIKE A FUCKING SLUT
Nah I'm good.

>>712406721
well he is Top G in this one.

>>712362234 (OP)
>Just entertain these for a living!

>>712406269
those niggas 100% are using bots but they also have a lot of real people that watch them but yes night media has control on a lot of streamers if you really go deep into it and look into them

>>712407124
Bottom middle is what peak performance looks like

If you're streaming on Twitch and I knew you were from 4chan /v/ I would unironically do my best to sabotage your stream.

>>712407012
Oh no, is Hasan botted? Tell me it isn't so. What about the revolution?

>>712384102
>my community
lol
LMAO
community
Dick suckers you mean.

>>712390280
>community
They are customers or dick suckers as I call them. Community hahaha good joke.

>>712407456
Underage the post.

>>712407518
How so? The whole point is to get people to buy subs. They are customers but at the same time the product is free so the only reason to pay is to avoid ads or to suck your dick.

>>712384102
how long have you been at it?

>>712362234 (OP)
It's very difficult to make it as a streamer, even if you're elite at a game that doesn't neccesarily mean you'll garner viewers, subs and a regular following. You also have to supplement your streaming with a YouTube channel which for many streamers is where the real money is.

Go on any game with a ranked queue and you'll find someone in the top .1% of the game streaming to like 50 viewers. Which isn't bad, but you need like 500+ viewers regularly and a fair amount of them to sub and donate $ or bits to you. Not to mention the entire job is based on a para social relationship with people you'll never meet giving you money directly which I think is very weird.

>>712407603
Your attitude about people is juvenile.

>>712407518
You don't have a community lmao. Stop believing your own marketing terms.

You don't have a relationship with your viewers. It's all parasocial garbage. Do you call them by name? You just call them chat. They're an amorphous blob of paypigs who didn't receive enough validation griwubg so they simp on twitch for some dumb ebro or egirl who doesn't give a shit.

>>712405532
If you're black then just go back. If you were going to buy an ad then you wouldn't bother posting that URL.
Get fucked liar.

>>712407957
Chortle on my balls.

>>712392571
yup. its a one person job and youre learning as you go. a lot small channels that blow up after just a couple of vids already have older channels and just making a fresh start using what they now know from creating those older channels.

Had my account since 2015 but have only gotten one paycheck. Sucks but for nearly all of that I never advertised my channel or YT videos.

>>712407124
Inferior genetic haired, some bald guy, and maybe a hispanic woman.

>>712408072
Nah you suck my dick 5 years from now when the twitch money dries up and nobody cares about this shit anymore lmao

Streaming is very mentally taxing
>have to play the game proficiently (or mega retarded on purpose which isn't braindead either)
>also have to keep up with reading chat, so your eyes are constantly switching screens
>also have to make sure you don't say any no-no words at all

If you're not a good looking guy or girl and you just start streaming and know nobody: what's the key of success? How do you gain relevance and avoid being stuck in 0-5 viewers hell for years?
And how do you make the switch between gaming and IRL and convince your sweaty audience? Gaming is fun at first but travelling is even more fun and less boring in the long run.

>>712410203
start making IRL. IRL is a differnt audience though.

>>712410203
unironically get on youtube and react to a bigger content creator's work in some way
either do a reply video, i.e. "I TOOK THIS FAMOUS NO-DAMAGE CONSORT RADAHN TANK BUILD INTO PVP" or just literally react and call him a faggot and explain why
you then get fed into their viewerbase

>>712410203
Yeah I think gaming and IRL are largely 2 different audiences. If you want to make travel content then just make travel content, there's definitely an audience for that. You'd likely have better luck on YT than on Twitch.

>>712362234 (OP)
Nobody gave a shit about me when I uploaded stuff back in 2007.

>>712410482
I did this to perturbedpedro lol.

I make youtube videos as a hobby because I was tired of rotting away and decided to find hobbies. It's pretty fun. I feel like its easier to get noticed on youtube now if you have a strong thumbnail and are passionate about your topic. I keep getting recommended sub 10 view videos all the time now, I feel like its one of the best times to start making content

>>712407671
a little over two years at this point!

>>712410887
post channel anon

>>712410887
post channel

>>712410915
cool

>>712362234 (OP)
>Why did you wait too long to start making money by playing video games
So many gaming youtubers i knew from 2007-2010 lost relevancy when youtube changed their adsense rules. All the people who were willing to be more than 'chill guy that plays games' flooded the market. I only get like $500 a year from youtube, i enjoy making videos enough to do it, but not enough to go the extra mile.

>>712384102
Gonna be brutally honest with you bro, horridly annoying voice. Couldn't get through 30 seconds of any of your videos.

>>712411501
if you're interested in starting, I always recommend getting started sooner to get used to the process of streaming
>>712411734
that's alright, I know my voice isn't for everyone

>>712362234 (OP)
because i don't want to do editing

>>712362234 (OP)
Seems expensive. I doubt my PC would even be able to handle it.

>>712411765
yup. Just got back on Twitch in March and playing YT. almost a year trying to figure the algorithm.

https://www.youtube.com/@DuplicitousDark

https://www.twitch.tv/duplicitousdark

>>712411779
It's a killer. I want to stream so much more, but I find it extremely difficult to justify when I have a fuck ton of footage I need to edit. I intended to go live an hour ago, but I've just been finishing up a project and I'm jumping into the next one right now

>>712407124
>el abominacio del americano

>>712413121
what editing software is this?

>>712362234 (OP)
I'm considering becoming one of those shitty essayist to explain Tokusatsu production cycles and make videos of licensed games but my accent is just too fucking bad to make profit of it.
Also it's really difficult for me to restrain myself from saying "faggot" and "retardation" in the script.

>>712413561
Adobe Premiere. Here's an actually completed project that I need to edit down for clips. I use Adobe Audition for my audio editing. In the Kirby screenshot, the background was made with Photoshop and After Effects. In this pic, the waveform around the logo was made with After Effects as well. I recommend to everyone to just pirate the Adobe suite and learn that. These programs were meant to be used in tandem, so basically I can edit audio on the fly with Audition and immediately see the result in Premiere after a quick save.

Eventually you'll get to a point where you have so many templates for so many different situations that it streamlines the editing process a ton. My problem is that I'm autistic about quality and I have so much footage that I'm still bogged down by the amount of work I need to get through. I enjoy it to a degree, but I wish I had help with even just a rough edit.

>doesn't have to show his face
>doesn't have a streaming schedule, just plays whenever he feels like playing
>is able to interrupt his gameplay to discuss whatever shit comes to mind
>doesn't have to ever read subs or show them on-screen
>doesn't have to read chat names
>doesn't have to do sponsors
>is able to retain a consistently healthy amount of viewers
Other than having an entertaining personality, what does one have to do to reach this level where you can just stream like you want without ever having to do any of the annoying shit?

>>712414694
You have to do the annoying shit endlessly until you're so big that you don't have to do it anymore. I know that's a stupid answer, but that's literally THE answer

>>712414783
Damn...

>>712414329
wow. i just use capcut.

>>712414694
who is this again?

>>712362234 (OP)
I do, I'm just phoning it in right now because I'm getting up there in years.

>>712415136
Learn to reverse search zoomie

>>712415195
nah. if I dont recognize this fuck I aint gonna go look.

>>712415279
Why even bother asking then?

>>712414694
because he's one of the og streamers and he's got nothing to prove to anyone, he's been doing this for almost 15 years. a random guy as fun a joel starting now with no network would peak at 5 viewers on good days.
>t. semi-successful esl streamer

>>712415329
mebe I thought somebody was actually gonna be helpful. my mistake.

>>712415432
You literally just have to do one click to reverse search, it's a shame that you're too retarded to do that

>>712415531
dont care kys faggot.

>712415615
>wastes more time replying than reverse searching
Really what motivates zoomers/gen-alpha to not bother learning anything despite technology being more accessible than ever?

>>712415895
Anon, the whole thing is bait

If I don't show my face, nor do I reveal my race nor nationality, can I say nigger/retarded/faggot without getting banned?

>>712416089
retard won't get you banned. If you claim to be black then nigger won't get you banned either. If you also claim to be gay, there's a chance faggot might not get you banned.

>>712416089
try it about an hour into the stream.

>>712416068
I'm talking in general, whenever I have to babysit my cousins they can't do fucking anything it's insane
Also for the short period that I had to be a teacher I couldn't help but feel that most kids I was teaching to weren't apt with technology at all which really surprised me. Only 6 students on average per classroom seemed to know what they were doing it. I ultimately had to waste 3 classes to explain stuff that should be basic knowledge.

>>712416231
Is there a filter that lifts after one hour? I saw streamer saying that he has to refrain from saying cunt and other terms for one hour whenever he was playing with friends

>>712416358
youtube wants the first half hour or so to be ad friendly if you decide to publish your live stream. Unless some moron decides to report that deep into the stream of course.

>>712416281
>I'm talking in general
Fair. It's really weird how there's a generation that's so in tune with technology and then one immediately after that knows literally nothing. Is it the parents fault for not teaching? The schools fault for not integrating enough technology into the classroom? The internet's fault for turning society's attention span to mush? An old high school teacher of mine told me that covid seriously fucked with students ability to cooperate and socialized. One has to wonder the repercussion that will have on the children of that generation. We're also at the start of the age of AI. How will AI affect the youth when it's so easy to have AI do all your work, leaving nothing for the student to retain. Food thought.....some real grim food for thought.

>>712416840
Thank you for explaining

>>712416840
Should just be a minute into the stream. That's how it is for videos. I accidentally cussed after 40 second and was still fine. I think "cunt" specifically is a word that can fuck with your monetization if someone decides to report it. Not too long ago I was listening to a podcast where a comedian was talking about a special of hers being demonetized because someone reported her for saying "cunt" even though it was a joke and she was referring to her cat. I say it every now and then and I'm fine, so aside from the first minute, it's just some cunt being a cunt about the word cunt

>>712362234 (OP)
How the fuck does this channel have subs? unless the owner purged it.

>>712392068
Retard is okay, fag nigger spic kike tranny chink troon are not okay

>>712416089
>If I don't show my face, nor do I reveal my race nor nationality, can I say nigger/retarded/faggot without getting banned?
You can get away with retard and retarded, it might warn you, but your message will go through and you won't be banned. You can say nigga if you're black. You can't say nigger or faggot or any other slur.

>>712384102
You have a very cute voice.

>>712362234 (OP)
by earning more somewhere else instead of giving 50% to some faggot nigger at Twitch that does literally nothing

they ban the good ones

never had the internet connection for it, I get like 1 mbps upload when I'm lucky. not sure if there's even better options in my area.

>>712362234 (OP)
nine_ten tried and failed at that so what hope do I have?

>>712419696
who is nine_ten?

>>712362234 (OP)
I'm boring and will inevitably hyper focus on the game, ignoring whoever's watching.

>>712419795
>who is nine_ten?
Exactly

>>712362234 (OP)
I don't live in a country that has tax exemptions on income. I'd be raped triple by taxation just by streaming. Meaning income tax, ad-revenue tax, sponsorship tax.

>>712402365
Some dude who does nothing but stream Warzone in my country got stabbed by a dude who tracked down his house (which wasn't even his fault, the internet operator goofed and leaked his address themselves). As long as you're "famous" you'll have to deal with this, it only takes one faggot coming to your house to ruin your day.

>>712362234 (OP)
I don't play video games for countless hours, I browse 4chan.

>>712362234 (OP)
I have some dignity

>>712420061
>(which wasn't even his fault, the internet operator goofed and leaked his address themselves)
That fucking sucks. I'm glad I live in America, where I can legally murder anyone that looks at me. Knock on my door? BLAMMO MOTHERFUCKER

>>712362234 (OP)
I do not have the psychopathy that enables me to feed off of constant negative attention the way all the top streamers do.

>>712362234 (OP)
Because I didn't want my hobby that I love to turn into my job that I hate.

>>712420370
This guy

>>712362234 (OP)
Being a fulltime streamer is genuinely one of the worst things you can do, first off you're turning your hobby to work which never works out well, it also makes your ego massive all the while you're essentially a NEET not actually developing as a person in fact you're getting worse because the people you interact with are other streamers who are equally childish, just look at onlyfangs pure high school behavior from grown ass men.
It's also supremely stupid to tie your career to sites you have zero control over, if Twitch went down tomorrow none of these big streamers would make it, they'd have zero skills, pr people would not want to hire them because of their egos, they're all destined to flip burgers or continue being leeches on society.

>he's still going

jesus christ...

>>712362616
Agreed. The streaming market is extremely saturated, and finding a unique angle or standout content is becoming increasingly difficult for new creators.

>>712419795
the guy who killed retardy on /v/

>>712421056
I see the threads all the time still, what do you mean killed?

>>712421129
Enter one next time and find out

>>712421336
Well that certainly explained your position. Thanks for posting.

>>712421402
Sure thing schizo, see you on Saturday!

>>712421504
I clearly don't participate in your shit so I was wondering how it was "killed."
Your answers are fucking deranged.
Take your meds.

>>712410203
>>712410328
>>712410561
The Faustina bargain that you must take if you want to become a successful IRL streamer is this:
go to Kick and join one of Ice Poseidon's Cx events. Like if you wanted to do it as soon as possible then flying out to Austin and participating in his open Scavenger Hunt event that'll be going on at some point in the next few months and open to anyone who wants to take part would be the easiest way in.

Snipe bigger figures in that community during the hunt and make a name for yourself by willing to do crazy shit and sabotage others.

>>712421606
No thanks. I'm just gonna do it my way even if it means I never get an audience.

>>712419496
Companies like T-Mobile and AT&T offer 5G Home Internet packages. It's a 5G enabled router. I have unlimited bandwidth and get like 250mbps down and 15 up. I could probably get more up if I had an actual proper window elevated to shove it in.

Alternatively, Starlink.

>>712421696
Well as a piece of advice you can take away by itself, aside from the Faustian bargain shit involving Ice Poseidon, you should also really be streaming to or multistreaming to Kick no matter what.

>>712421606
How about you take your Faustian bargain and shove it up my ass

>>712420905
It's true, as a steamer you have no dignity, you're a glorified monkey in a cage and viewers only want the monkey to throw shit.

>>712422136
This guy

>>712422295
You can try and act smug all you want, it still doesn't change that becoming a fulltime streamer means you'll never get true respect ever again

>>712362616
This. Then people coming to your stream to tell you about what a bad day they had n their dog died n all the other crap you just don't care about, like you're supposed to be some therapist

>>712422718
This guy

>>712362234 (OP)
I like path of exile so I watch those streams sometimes, there's a guy called Pohx who plays the most boring skill, it's retard proof you can't go wrong yet he has to answer the same dumb.. REALLY FUCKING dumb questions over n over n over by the keyboard drooling spastics, it's a wonder he's not blown his brains out, I couldn't cope with a room full of retards kids asking me dumb shit someone just asked 2 minutes ago.. Even though he has his own website dedicated to playing that one single skill, every faq you could imagine is there yet droolers just bombard his chat with nonsense. Fuck that

Cause I don't really play much games anymore.
I mainly just dick around, goon, or go do AI images to goon to.

>>712422718
this 100%

Because life is unfair. If you haven't made it already, it's because you're unlucky and haven't sucked the dick of bigger streamers.
I've tried streaming for what feels like an eternity now and fucking no one watches, and the only interactions I get are with bots.
Meanwhile my brother got unemployed, started streaming, and just got lucky, quickly got 100+ viewers in a fraction of the time I've tried, and said he raked in $1000 a month but then he stopped after he got a job again which paid better. Wish I was lying.
Luck plays a huge role in your success. And I have none of it, and stopped trying because fate has it that I must forever be a fat poor loser.
And take note that many of the big name streamers were already successful before hitting that Go Live button.

>>712423663
Link your channel bud