What is it like for non-US ppl to play games that really lean into the US military oorah jingoism glazing? Do you just tune it out? Or do you go “fuck yeah, wish my country was like that”

>my four year old son said we should abolish capital and seize the means of production

>>712366896 (OP)
>fuck yeah, wish my country was like that

You mean like this? The US military is a joke once you see what they fought for.

>>712366896 (OP)
>children are more media literate than the average /v/tard
interesting

probably the same as watching a Chinese action movie as an American

>>712366896 (OP)
Tune it out, I guess? I just want to play games where I shoot at people (who shot back) and gawk at the cool weapons of war

>>712366896 (OP)
>fuck yeah, wish my country was like that
Do other countries even have patriotism the way the US does? Like do kids in history class in France or Brazil or Nigeria learn about how awesome their country is and how much ass they kicked or is it only the US?

>>712367440
Even Chinese movies are never like "Fuck yeah big star and small stars! *proud to be a Chinese starts playing*"

>>712366896 (OP)
It's not wrong for a country to try and position itself at the top. I understand why they do it.
It's just wrong for everyone else, because good and bad are relative.

The problems America has today are a consequence of foreign powers purposely acting to sabotage and destabilize it. This shit happens because it's the only way anybody else has a chance to strike back for all the harm they've done. It's bad for them but great for everyone else.
Consequences for all they've done are fast approaching.

>>712366896 (OP)
>hurr durr we are the bad guys
>faggot arab wannabe dictator nukes own troops and american troops in a display of cowardice

I hate leftists so much it's unreal. They don't even know what the fuck they are criticizing anymore. Just type out any bullshit thought they come up with.

>>712366896 (OP)
They like it because they are the only games that show their setting.

Indians like IGI because you raid an indian penthouse and shoot indian guards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ctYA5jlCyg&list=PLgv8tls6d-QBTlvQQpo4ck6iTGjIA_Vgm&index=10
>>712367440
Same, I loved Chinese action movies with American antagonists. Especially when they can put up a fight. Showed that they were equals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ztk99MPOzk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35Blkdg24NU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDsxStGvLnc

I don't self insert into games. I could play CoD campaigns despite hating real commies with the power of thousand suns.

>>712366896 (OP)
I wish my country was like that

>>712367859
You'd be hard pressed to find a nation state that doesn't push national pride. I don't want to buy into the Americans stupid narrative but you're really making it hard

>>712368003
It's justified in-lore, but that's why it is considered propaganda. It's meant for you to think that the ideology (or race) that the baby killer nuker represents is bad.

>>712366896 (OP)
reeks of "U.S were always the bad guys expect between 1939–1945"

>>712368362
Jokes on you, they still think that the US is the bad guy for sparing Nazis. That's why they credit the Soviets for winning the war.

>>712368362
How could they be bad then when they were allied with the USSR?

>>712368362
A broken clock is right twice a day

>>712366896 (OP)
ISLAM SAYS TRANS RIGHTS

>>712368317
>the way the US does
Sounds like your country doesn't push reading comprehension.

>>712367859
>Do other countries even have patriotism the way the US does? Like do kids in history class in France or Brazil or Nigeria learn about how awesome their country is and how much ass they kicked or is it only the US?
Depends on how competent that country's education system really is. Here in Brazil, we learned about our own country's history, and basically nothing about the US' own.

Problem with education in general, in my country at least, is that leftie people are overwhelmingly entrenched in teacher roles. So a lot of what I was taught focused on how foreign powers took advantage of us.
For example, at school, my history teacher told us about the Triple Alliance war, he described it as a "conflict artifically brewed by the British in order to sell guns to both sides in order to profit". Now, while that may have been partially true, I feel like it would've been important to highlight other aspect of it. Such as how Paraguay had it coming(their dictator thought he was going to be SA Napoleon lmao), how Brazil kept the war going after Argentina and Uruguay had already stopped and basically made adult men extinct in that country, how Paraguay only really exists as a buffer between the two large powers in SA, or even how there was a really cool naval battle that we won.

Back to your question, it really depends. Everyone knows America is the only country that will teach their kids that they were the ones whom in fact invented the airplane, that Japanese schools purposely omit about their own war crimes in WWII, and I'm pretty sure French schools won't go into harsh details about their colonial "past".

>>712368494
Shitposting aside, I'll never understand people who sincerely engage with media they supposedly find so reprehensible. There's plenty of shit out there, go find something else to fuck with like any well-adjusted adult rather than trying to judge someone else's choice of enjoyment.

>>712366896 (OP)
>monstergender
I am not media literate enough to tell whether this is real or a joke.
Also, imagine making an average of almost 50 posts a day for over twelve years.

>>712369853
What does the watermelon on his name symbolize? Is it like, the obvious thing?

>>712369853
>Over 200k posts
The quintessential terminally online twittertard.

>>712366896 (OP)
>>712369853
GO BACK DUMB TWITTERFAGS

>>712369607
Please don't tell them to do that, that's how we got Veilguard.

>>712370920
The watermelon is sometimes used as an indicator of Palestinian sympathies because it has the same colors as the Palestinian flag. People started using it when certain sites starting censoring posts with the actual flag in it.

>>712366896 (OP)
East europoid, even as a kid I knew they were funded by their government to promote their army, and knew Americans were international villains, still played theit games. An exception for WW2 shooters of course, it was more prominent in the GWT era.

>>712366896 (OP)
>acktually, the bugs are the good guys.png

>>712369853
>I am not media literate enough to tell whether this is real or a joke.
It's just done to fuck with conservatives

>>712366896 (OP)
It takes a certain kind of maturity to think that war is not black and white and that games have certain biases whether it is good or not. That said, I cannot play WW2 games now if im not able to play both sides.

>>712366896 (OP)
It is cringe and weird, but in an entertaining way.

it reads a lot like B-movie type cheese

>>712371540
>GWT
*GWOT

>>712371652
I could really tell that most people played Helldivers 2 without having played the original.

>>712367859
>Do other countries even have patriotism the way the US does

of course, except maybe the germans.
the big difference is that patriotism of other countries is organic and understood and not amplified via marketing and gimmickery, just like everything in US culture is

>>712371386
That's a lot less amusing than the alternative.

>>712369329
Oh, you meant blatant bullshit. A lot do, maybe not to the same extent

>>712366896 (OP)
people who know what's up generally laugh at people who are proud of serving and dying for jewish interest.

but in a fictional game setting it's fun

>>712366896 (OP)
it's what I expect from zogbots so I don't pay it any mind

>>712366896 (OP)
Anyone who thinks the original Modern Warfare trilogy was jingoistic needs to work on their media literacy.
Black Ops you can kind of make a case for, but the US in MW is one of the villains.

>I am supposed to fill bad about shooting brown semites
Excuse me what? Not even american, but that's not the point. Those things are different species from homo sapiens. If bleeding hears faggots making those statements would familiarize themselves with middle eastern browns personally, those shooters would become their favorite entertainment.

>>712372542
The last parts of MW2 had you fight against another US company iirc

>>712368494
>I'm ten years old
Sounds like someone's parents did not read the classification on the cover of the game.

>>712367859
the hell are you talking about it dude? chinese movies in the last 5? years are pure propaganda

>>712366896 (OP)
>Oh its a gulf state they probably had it coming
Is this a middle east geopolitical thing? Does everyone hate the gulf countries?

>>712367242
>The military fights for unchanging ethnic percentages
What a weird take about the military of a nation of immigrants, that openly accepts not only non-citizens but non-nationals in the service, and hasn't fought a defensive war in nearly a century.

I love the patriotism stuff and will break out into a zero irony rendition of "america fuck yeah" while playing games with that kind of sentiment.

Ham-ass has been getting btfo pretty soon they will be free

I didn't get the broad strokes of the story, I just played it to have fun shooting guys and thought some of the bigger action sequences were cool.

>>712369607
Autistics like in the OP image don’t really get to choose what their fixations are. If your special interest is guns and the military but you’re also a leftist at heart, then you’re pretty shit outta luck for content to consume.

>>712372680
Yep, the end of MW2 has you as a British soldier, invading the US to fight the US military. Can't think of many other games where you shoot Americans in the campaign.

>>712372907
>If your special interest is guns and the military but you’re also a leftist at heart, then you’re pretty shit outta luck for content to consume.
But I thought only the left made video games, people here keep saying there's no such thing as conservative developers or artists.

>>712372953
I was pretty fuckin media illiterate back then and I wasn't really following the story but I just assumed Shepherd had gone rogue

It is good fun. Me and my friend we eat hamburger and pretend to be American. Play MW2 special missions and yell for communists to die.

>>712366896 (OP)
Don't care, like, those things look completely alien to me, so I can't relate in the slightest, just pew pew. I do cringe whenever my country is brought up, and they talk about something that's widely known by everyone here, but they act like it's some mega big brain secret knowledge in the game.

It's normal for non-Americans because the values of these games usually boil down to: "we are heroes, they are villains, let's fight them to protect our people". Players abstract the message and separate it from the content and propaganda. They feel like they are fighting the villains, but they don't see themselves as patriotic Americans.
In fact, this value is shared by all peoples of the world except the Jewish people. Jews have a racist, supremacist religion that considers all other races to be literally cattle, and Jews to be the only true humans made by god who, because of this, can simply kill others without justification.
That is why, while people can identify with a product of American propaganda, they cannot identify with a product of Jewish propaganda, and this partly explains why Jews have been expelled so many times from every place they have settled.

>>712373426
Thanks for ruining the thread, asshole. Can't you /pol/oids go a single thread without bringing up Jews unprompted? This reads like a bot post.

>>712368362
Nothing significant really happened before 1939 going by some interpretations. The whole world might as well not exist before that date.

>>712366896 (OP)
Your dumb ass benefits from the American security umbrella, so shut the fuck up.

I don't know if I'm just getting older but all the newer COD campaigns kinda blend together aside from what I found annoying.

Black Ops Cold War? That's the one with tranny shit.

MW 2 Remake? That's the one with the shitty crafting system.

MW 3 Remake? That's the one that's 70% open world padding.

>>712373117
Correct. You're fighting part of the US military, not the government.

>>712374647
Nothing significant where? WW1 was arguably more significant to European geopolitics than WW2. I guess America didn't really do anything notable to the rest of the world other than put a pin in the great war

>>712366896 (OP)
>games that really lean into the US military oorah jingoism glazing
What games? Did you just wake up from a coma? It's not 2005 anymore grandpa

>>712374636
I gave a detailed explanation of why other peoples don't mind consuming American products with propaganda overtones. They abstract the message from the content.
The Jewish example is important because it proves that the message does not always resonate with other peoples. So the American idea of "my people first" resonates easily with just about everyone, but the Talmudic message "my people are the only ones made by God, therefore the only humans" does not resonate with anyone.
In short, once stripped of its propaganda content, the message will not always be acceptable to the target audience.

Note: products made by liberal Americans end up falling into this same trap, which is why Africans, for example, prefer "racist" American products to politically correct American products.

>>712368328
Butchering your own troops is never justified. It's the grandest act of cowardice. Nuking them also means nuking civilians too. Propaganda? Hardly. Everyone knows arabs are a hair-trigger away from a suicidal death charge because they are so mentally warped into believing they will get virgins after they end themselves.

The worst is when I think about WW1 and the guys getting executed for not wanting to run into a meat grinder just to get shot by a faggot officer who was also too scared to go over the trench.

can all brown ppl just die already

>>712366896 (OP)
I would not care if someone made a game where I slaughter US soldiers as an enemy nation

>>712367913
>It's bad for them but great for everyone else.
not really
in a hypothetical world where the US just shits the bed, literally everything everyone buys that crosses the ocean (pretty much everything) would absolutely skyrocket in price due to ocean trade routes now becoming multipolar/more dangerous
that would just be a first order outcome btw, that doesn't get into the fact that now governments/coalitions of governments would suddenly be in desperate need of naval assets which are extremely expensive, AND that wouldn't get into anything land related AND it assumes that the inheretors of those trade routes are as good at logistics as the US is (they wouldn't be)
people REALLY REALLY underestimate the positive effect the US has on trade for everyone that isn't NK or Iran (note I did NOT say Russia or China, as the US navy responds to and has responded to Chinese/Russian naval SOS) although perhaps CN/RU would benefit from other things related to the US vanishing, like control of the South China Sea as an example

>>712367242
>a nation of latinas
hell yeah that's something actually worth fighting for

>>712375253
>Black Ops Cold War? That's the one with tranny shit.
?? Where?

>>712372069
>patriotism of other countries is organic and understood
nta but can you elaborate on what this means?

>>712376445
It doesn't mean anything. It's more retarded European speak for how their patriotism is totally different from US patriotism even though their entire idea of US patriotism comes from movies and they've never actually been to America.

>>712366896 (OP)
>What is it like for non-US ppl to play games that really lean into the US military oorah jingoism glazing?
You mean black and white good guys vs bad guys?
The better question to ask is how non americans feel when their people are portrayed as the enemy.

>>712376108
None of that matters in comparison to the harm they've done. Between sponsoring coups, fomenting domestic terrorism and crime syndicates, outright bombing and invasions, embargos and other forms of strong arming, not a single country was not adversely impacted by the US in the 20th and 21th century.

The USA doesn't have allies and enemies, it views the world as a gradient between those who struggle more and those who struggle less. It's no surprise that a nation like that is crumbling, when every other nation is the world is staking their covert assets into destroying them from the inside. The US was who made enemies with everyone, not the other way around.

>>712366896 (OP)
Neither anon. I understand it is an important part of american culture, like gigantic sodas that you can refill, being served cheeseburgers while you drive gigantic trucks, police that are armed like commandos, rap musicians fighting in the waffle house. I dont' need to endorse it to watch or enjoy it, and I don't need to live there or make here like that. American tourists visiting here are loud and joyous.

I wlill never drive a big american muscle car down the beach in the 1960s with the beach boys, and their beach girls, but that's OK.

I find that most of the people who really, REAALY hate america love people who are usualy even worse.

>>712367859
American patriotisim is powerful like millitary or cheeseburger distribution. Other contries have it, but not like flags on walmart underpants.

>>712369369
Ah, Paulo Ferrere's theory of eductaion in action.

>>712375646
It's a horrible thing but without reliable armored vehicles or precise artillery, sending men en masse into the meat grinder was the only way to make gains on a lot of fronts. One guy deserting is just one guy deserting, but then others see his insubordination and realize they'd be mad to go into no man's land. Discipline is one of the most important skills for a soldier

>>712370920
Colors of pan arabisim, See middle eastern countries. Used as a symbol to support palestinians, particularly in places that ban flags.

American colleges had a bunch of them graffittid during their protests.

>>712377175
>police that are armed like commandos
I doubt NYC or any other city in the US has a police department equipped with armored division, Anon.
Police in Brazil is some next level stuff. And the scary thing is, it's a necessary thing. Specially when drug dealers are already starting to adopt the drone innovations from the Ukraine War to fuel their own turf wars.

>>712377227
I would agree with you, but remember, those men were killed for way less than the amount of asinine bullshit we see today. Take a look for what all of those men fought and died for.

>>712377589
NYC actually has armored vehicles.

You know, GTA brazil would rock incredibly hard.

>>712367859
>Do other countries even have patriotism the way the US does? Like do kids in history class in France or Brazil or Nigeria learn about how awesome their country is and how much ass they kicked or is it only the US?

why would they? there is literally nothing of value in brown countries and patriotism is itself something you only really consider if you have enough to eat and feel safe enough that you won't be killed tomorrow

>>712377589
Many countries in the world don't have brazil level problems. Pic related. It's the vehicles we use when Florida man gets really out of control. Notice though that the american ones can actually be kept clean.

it's going to be fun seeing these people have the biggest wakeup call in the universe once the west collapses and China takes over in a few decades
If you think mutt nationalism and propaganda is bad, just fucking wait

>>712376445
It means they're proud of their nation's accomplishments and people. They don't act like they invented the concept of freedom and they don't pledge allegiance to a symbol

>>712377147
>None of that matters in comparison to the harm they've done
you silly retard
at least google global living standards trend lines since the 50s
Or the Marshall act, or the Japanese economic miracle, or the Korean economic miracle, or china's ascension and the U.S.-China Trade Agreement from the 80s under Nixon, or who first installed Saudi oil wells
or you could just compare this to how much countries grew under former powers (hint, if you were a Chinese neighbor pre-opium wars you'd just be a vassal that pays tribute in return for NOTHING)
also this graph is just from the 90s, when most of the work was already done

>>712378157
>they're proud of their nation's accomplishments and people
How do they learn about their nation's accomplishments and it's people?

>>712378339
Historical records

>>712378110
Being clean is a sign that they aren't used often, or at all. Which is not bad in itself, I suppose.

>>712378234
The US is not the origin or root of all the living standard improvements of the last century. Saying that the US helped other countries is also pointless, they only made deals that helped themselves the most in the end.

>>712378157
>They don't act like they invented the concept of freedom
To be completely, absolutely fair; america is the only nation on earth right now that even pretends to care about freedom for its citizens. Yes, I know that comes with some caveats like some lawmakers pushing hate speech laws, but so far you can't be put in jail just for talking shit in america like in some other countries.

>>712378118
>surprised pikachu face when empires and nation states rise and fall
If you don't like the current trajectory join or make your own PMC. You're still gonna die regardless but at least you will make a little bit coin along the way. Not like you can jump on a one way ark vessel out of this earthfaggot shithole. Forced to pay the blood tribute to one speck laying upon a massive spiral arm.

>>712378609
>they only made deals that helped themselves the most in the end
nta but, so?

>>712367242
>le 50% face
Hey that means it went up!

>>712378609
>Being clean is a sign that they aren't used often, or at all. Which is not bad in itself, I suppose.
They get used a fair bit actually.

They're clean because we can pay people to hose them down and trust that they will not steal the carburetors.

>>712372831
This and it's why I found all the seething about helldivers fucking hilarious

>>712369369
>Problem with education in general, in my country at least, is that leftie people are overwhelmingly entrenched in teacher roles.
That's a given, righties are inherently anti education because a stupid population is one that's easier to control and manipulate, so of course education is going to shift leftwards.
Righties have found a way around this by now relying on the church for education especially in America where the far right controlling party is shitting on the constitution and giving tax payer money to religious institutions which is a violation of the establishment clause and the whole seperation of church and state.

>>712372680
>>712372953
>>712375270
The final mission took place in Afghanistan, not the US.
Also Shadow Company were mercenaries Shepard hired under the blank check he was given to hunt down Makrov, so they were black water types and not actually affiliated with the US military. One of the radio chatter has them talking about their pay while another one says they get double per kill if it's a head shot.
Plus Shepard treated them as fodder compared the Rangers since he blew up his base to try to kill Price and specifically says that any shadow company member still trapped inside would be honored, and a few minutes later ordered an artillery strike on the shadow company troops outside the base in another attempt to kill Price killing a majority of the mercenaries.
Meanwhile with the Rangers, Shepard ordered a danger close, but they were still in safe range and he was on the front lines at the start as well.

>>712366896 (OP)
America lost Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq so there's not exactly much there to brag about

>>712378590
>King Homo the II fell off his horse today. He tearfully requested that the event be struck from the records.

>>712378110
>It's the vehicles we use when Florida man gets really out of control
its also the bullshit they use to justify not increasing training and hiring budgets. all military surplus crap in a police department is just a consolation prize for not having as much sheer manpower as they actually want.
>>712377589
literally every major US city has armored vehicles if for nothing else but SWAT shit

>>712367242
That 25% is saving the rest from a commie hellhole, I don't care if I have to learn Spanish

>>712379024
>Afghanistan
We put the Taliban in the cuckshed for more than a decade.
>Iraq
Literally won in three months. We failed at nation-building there but the military objectives were thoroughly achieved.

>>712367859
>Even Chinese movies are never like "Fuck yeah big star and small stars! *proud to be a Chinese starts playing*"
LOL

>bad guys in cod4 are dropping nukes and are doing objectively villainous shit, in a FICTIONAL terrorist plot for revenge for something that happened decades ago
>"DURR DEY ARE ACSHUALLY DAH GOOD GUYS CAUSE REAL LIFE AMERICA BAD"
God I hate that gaming has become so popular, the average retard like this and these brain-dead opinions have completely obliterated any chance of kino like mw1 or mw2 ever happening again. Instead we get Nicki Minajs ass and weed advertising to kids, while they preach this moralist garbage to you. This industry is fucked

>>712367859
>Even Chinese movies are never like "Fuck yeah big star and small stars! *proud to be a Chinese starts playing*"
You haven't been watching the right movies then bro.

>>712379139
Also the modern Taliban is an unpopular regime that wants to have its cake and eat it too. It wants to be a country of trad larpers but also have access to the wider world. It's like if North Korea wanted to be open but have its regime, it doesn't work like that

>>712379226
"AAA" has been wallowing in shit for several years now. Just let them do their thing and tank all the undesirables.

>>712378609
>The US is not the origin or root of all the living standard improvements of the last century.
>of all
of course not, what an impossible standard to reach as you couldn't make that argument unless every citizen of a country was an automaton funded and operated by the US on land given to them by the US breathing oxygen the US supplied
but those countries MASSIVELY benefited from the US's involvement (by both direct literal funds given AND trade and technological trade), which I'd like to add many of them were powers that DECLARED WAR on the US (Germany, Japan) which the US didn't leave permanently crippled but instead massively boosted their economy/living standards (which notably was counter to what Allied European powers wanted with Germany post WW1 and is thus particularly notable)
>they only made deals that helped themselves the most in the end
this is how I know you're retarded because the aforementioned U.S.-China Trade Agreement from the 80s was largely idealistic rather than pragmatic, and the US is just NOW starting to grumble about it
>b-b-b-but the US only did that because they thought it would work out better in the long term by pacifying China!
shut the fuck up, your goal posts move so far I bet you think its impossible to be truly altruistic because at a minimum people receive an emotional reward for charity
just read some history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_economic_miracle
and compare it to former power's treatment of the conquered, here are examples
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Republic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_League_of_Nations

>>712377589
>I doubt NYC or any other city in the US has a police department equipped with armored division, Anon.
American police has been heavily militarized in recent decades because police are taught 'warrior mentality' where you immediately see everything as a threat to you as opposed to the old 'protect and serve' mindset.
And as a result of George W Bush's Global War on Terror, there's a lot of old military surplus gear that was just handed to local police so while they don't get tanks and fighter jets, you'll see a lot of them LARPing as soldiers like pic related.
There was an attempt to scale back on this but Republicans, the conservative ruling party, just doubled down on it.

>>712369369
>brazilians still seriously think santos invented the plane when the wright brothers had already been flying for three years before he flew

>>712367242
Once white population reaches 41% we're going to see memes on a fourth dimensional level

>>712375582
You're utterly wrong about the Jews too, but even if you were right you still sperged out about them in an unrelated thread.

>>712366896 (OP)
We called them "americanadas", I particularly dont give a shit if the movie/game is well written enough.

>>712379447
>Weimar Republic

>>712379049
Hey, If I need to contain florida man, I'm going to want more than a crown victoria.

>>712379024
>Afghanistan
Bwo, america occupied the country for over 30 years. It's like saying you won actually because the dude that broke into your living room, beat the shit out of you and pissed all over your stuff decided to leave after a few hours.

>>712366896 (OP)
I'm Russian and we're the villains of like 50% of shooters. I don't really care. It's neat I can understand the soldiers yap in a different language if anything. Never been upset aboutit.

>>712379542
Taking off with a catapult does not constitute powered flight. The picture is the only evidence that the event took place at all. The plane was mysteriously destroyed shortly after.

Santos took off on his own and flew in front of a crowd of thousands of people, at a respect air club in France.

>>712366896 (OP)
Over here most people don't care, even when this kind of shit happens in movies. They just think the game is cool and take it as it's own work of fiction

>>712379510
>immediately see everything as a threat to you
I mean, in a country with more guns than people, that's an understandable mentality for people whose job it is to deal with disturbances. I'm not saying every single person deserves that kind of response, but you can never know.

>>712378986
I don't remember anything indicating to me that they were mercenaries rather than US borderline special forces military. But that's a good point about how he treated Airborne. I had chalked up his disdainful behavior towards Shadow Company as him showing his true colors while fearing for his life, but as you pointed out, he showed up on the frontline with the Airborne Rangers at the start of the game and rescues the original US protagonist.

>>712379742
>I'm Russian and we're the villains of like 50% of shooters.
You should be happy the Russian Military is portrayed as fearsome. Or in the case of Modern Warfare 2, the Russian Military could invade and hold the East Coast of the US to the point the US military had to evacuate their Capitol.
Meanwhile reality is not as pleasant, even with trump pulling the old team auto balance and betraying the Ukrainians to putin.
I mean tires on planes? I thought that was a joke.

>>712379024
>>712379139
>>712379726
And even in Vietnam, the US had a 20:1 K:D ratio. It was a political defeat rather then a military defeat.

>>712369369
Is that a Brazilian textbook?

>>712366896 (OP)
I think people in the US hate the US more than anyone outside of it.

>>712379892
>I don't remember anything indicating to me that they were mercenaries
Not in game more than the few radio chatter, the game material clearly states they're mercenaries.
I'm pretty sure they did that because it would have been a bigger shit show if you did gun down US troops as part of a campaign.
But if I was going to have an evil American military faction, they dressed the part.

>>712380170
Yes. Textbooks in Brazil notoriously serve as literal commie propaganda.

>>712370920
After October 7th, 2023, it somehow magically became OK to tweet watermelons at black politicians since now it's Leftists doing it.

>>712380203
You need to talk to more people who've gone through the UK education system

>>712380068
It wasn't even a political defeat. The Southern Vietnamese government was rotten and no one wanted to do anything but leech off the US and be corrupt, so the US negotiated a Korea-style truce, packed the fuck up, and left. They guessed that the North Vietnamese would probably invade again as soon as they left, and they did.

Basically the same thing in Afghanistan. Spent all that time and money to try to prop up a modern government, but no, the populace wants to be jihadi goatherders so the US picked up and left them to crumble.

>>712380241
I don't recall MW2 even coming with a manual, much less spoiling Shadow Company, but I just checked my shelves and I don't see my copy, so I'll have to take your word for it.

>>712377175
>I wlill never drive a big american muscle car down the beach in the 1960s with the beach boys, and their beach girls, but that's OK
Fuck man your making miss something I won't have even as a American

>>712380591
The main difference between Vietnam and Afghanistan is that we were justified in invading the later. We had no real reason to be in Vietnam in the first place.

>>712380485
>UK
If you want to look at one potential future there it is. Went from a world spanning empire to something downright pathetic. Even the old Britons bobbing around like pickled apples in the marshes didn't have it this bad.

>>712378845
You must be 18 or older to post here, young man.

>>712380719
Blame the French begging for help then leaving us the bill

>>712379814
Even the french admit it now, smells like thirdie cope to me. The reason for the catapult is it's a great way to make sure you don't fucking die taking off. Is this a plane?

>>712380969
>you will never see the stars in your lifetime

>>712380984
I absolutely blame the French for causing this mess, and JFK for getting us into it, and LBJ for escalating it.
Of all the communist countries to go to outright war against, we fought the one that most wanted to be friends with the US.

>>712377589
Imagine if american negroes had 30% of southern european blood,
the favelado is a vicious beast who fear no consequences whatsoever

>>712381216
The difference is we know that jet is capable of self propelled flight

>>712366896 (OP)
Canadian here
I don't play slop so I wouldn't know

>>712366896 (OP)
>watermelon
Chances are "as a child" meant a year ago. Only underage retards use the watermelon shit.

>>712380619
Shadow Company and Shepard betraying you was never mentioned before the game's release, back when surprised mattered. As for proof they were mecenaries
>While Shadow Company's status as private military contractors is not directly stated in the original Modern Warfare 2 (outside of voice lines where individual soldiers mention payment), Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Campaign Remastered's version of "Museum" features proper informational signs for each exhibit; the sign for the "Just Like Old Times"/"Endgame" exhibit explicitly describes Shadow Company as being an elite unit of private military contractors.

>>712367859
>history class in France
Not really, in middle and high school we had annual month on the holocaust, EVERY FUCKING YEAR

>>712381216
The magical wing shape that makes planes possible was already known at the time. The challenge was to create a machine that was light enough not to break apart, coupled with an engine that was strong enough to lift itself plus the frame.
The Wright dudes were bicycle mechanics, they had no knowledge of engines. Their "plane" would never ever have taken off by itself.

Like >>712382278 said, that jet is a plane because it doesn't need a catapult, it's only using one to overcome the runway length constraint. It can take off on its own if given enough space.

>>712366896 (OP)
>said "oh wow okay im straight up playing the bad guys I guess" as a child
He never said that.

>>712367913
>the way that subhuman on the far left keeps dropping and picking up the kid
I hope her husband beat the fuck out of her when she came home. Absolutely subhumam behavior

>>712382607
>in middle and high school we had annual month on the holocaust, EVERY FUCKING YEAR

>>712366896 (OP)
As a chad self-inserter I can instantaneously identify with any country or ideology to self-insert better

>>712380591
Also don't forget America pissed away a chance of having a peace where they'd have at least a partial win because Richard Nixon sabotaged the Paris Peace Conference by telling South Vietnamese to not agree to anything while he was running for president because he wanted the war as a campaign issue. BTW, he and his campaign weren't in government, so this could constitute as treason. Lyndon Johnson, the president at the time knew of Nixon's treachery but refused to make it public because he felt it would shatter America's faith in the government that someone running for president would so brazenly undermine American policy for personal gain. Of course then Nixon wins, expands the war, setting up America's defeat and shatters America's faith in the government anyway with Watergate.
Afghanistan instantly collapsing because trump betrayed the Afghani government by cutting a deal with the Taliban without even consulting the Afghanis, and once that deal was set in stone, everyone realized the Afghani government had no power which is why the Afghani military just dissolved when the Taliban made their march to the capital, because why defend a government with no authority or power? America wanted out of Afghanistan, but it was set up in the worst way possible making the past 20 years a waste.

I hate Clancy-core operator-slop. The only reason I've played CoD at all is because Battlefield has been abysmal for a decade now.

>>712383627
>next battlefield is looking to do exactly that minus US vs Russia
PMC Simulator soon bros

>>712366896 (OP)
shooting things is just a part of vidya. but i've always resented people thinking all there is are 1st and 3rd person shooters

>>712366896 (OP)
wouldn't know, american devs always make me the best faction for some reason

>>712378986
I'm tired of these spec ops soap operas. CoD 3 was simple. I'm fighting to liberate France from the Germans. There's no heroes, villains or conspiracies. No convoluted plot to keep track of. Just war, with some interpersonal drama to humanize the supporting characters

>>712366896 (OP)
As an anglo it's kino as you get to play the other 1/2 of the infinity ward games as the SAS or something for the most part, countries who didn't pussy out about Iraq don't get to be included, and naturally countries that ARE Iraq don't get to be good guys in these things. Whats the problem, upset someone sailed around the world to push your dictators shit in?

Semper fudge and goo dares wins

>>712366896 (OP)
I was 13 when I discovered ARMA. I knew then and there that I needed to learn russian. Now I'm an adult, smacking down the little pinks and orcs that try to step up to me. Don't regret a thing.

>>712372807
A nation in which most hold other nations with primacy is not a nation, it is a tourist destination.

>>712368494
Uh, the NVA were invading south vietnam thoughever?

>>712382607
Jesus... they usually at somepoint go over a holocaust book once or twice in American English classes in both middle and highschoool but like a whole ass month dedicated to it, in France of all places, so I can only imagine the torturous humiliation rituals they go through in German schools

>>712372807
>and hasn't fought a defensive war in nearly a century.
? Name which defense war the US fought

>>712384364
>I'm fighting to liberate France from the Germans.
Actually you weren't.
In Germany, you weren't there to save the country, but to rescue the non pope murdering VP who was there as part of a peace conference before the russians launched a massive chemical attack and invasion.
And in France, you were there to capture Makarov's money man, you just had help from the survivors of the GIGN (Who are most probably all killed too)

>>712384658
and in the USA they spend months on "black history" while pretending there is a reason the whole sports program is imported blacks

>>712382227
>no scope on an anti-materiel rifle

>>712366896 (OP)
I'm czech and I loved cod and battlefield because I hate brown people and russians. Hope that helps.

>>712380241
This argument is so pedantic. For all intents and purposes of the gameplay, they are US military. Hell, in your own pic they have clear US flag insignia.

>>712366896 (OP)
I think that gun is cool, I wanna buy that IRL & I also enjoy virtually shooting brown people.

>>712384764
I was referring to the CoD 3 campaign.
>>712384678
They were arguably defending their Pacific territories in WW2

>>712366896 (OP)
>What is it like for non-US ppl to play games that really lean into the US military oorah jingoism glazing?
It is fiction, anon.

>wish they had actually killed all those commies back then

>>712367859
>Do other countries even have patriotism the way the US does?
Not in Europe. They get taught that patriotism leads to nationalism which leads to big Hitler so they aren't allowed to be proud of their countries anymore.

>>712385062
>Hell, in your own pic they have clear US flag insignia.
Doesn't really mean much when Blackwater wore US flags too.