>>712369803 (OP)
AHAHAHAHA

>soulless nu-40k art vs soulful old art
Clearly the guy on the left is in the wrong.

>>712370193
>soulless nu-40k
It's a fucking character portrait of an Elysian Drop Trooper from the Only War RPG which is from 2012
The drop trooper design hasn't changed at all since it was invented

get a grip you terminally online rage baiting retard

>>712370957
>2012
Thanks for proving my point, I guess.

>>712370957
>2012
This nigga

>>712369803 (OP)
>>712370957
>Coloured

>>712370957
21st century? Cringe.

w40k is extremely lame and pozzed

Marine plastic consumers are the most soulless insects crawling upon the earth and GW is fully morally in the right to take your money and piss on you.

>>712369803 (OP)
40k isn't a sci-fi setting, nor was it ever based.

>>712370957
Anything past 2000 is soulless.

>>712370957
Let me guess, you've been here since 2012 too, right?

Both sides suck
>"Yes, I want to be indoctrinated soldier #10486034001 and be part of the war machine bringing humanity closer to extinction and will accomplish this by throwing my 70 something kilo flesh at endless nightmare legions along with bajillion other guardsmen so the enemy can hopefully drown under our biomass and make our lord captain win another medal but end up making things worse anyway in the long run because the faggots commanding us are shortsighted fools at best and literal chaos plant sabotaging the entire thing at worst; resulting in a net negative by probably feeding chaos gods, some altar, some tyranids maybe."
Said no person ever.

>>712373934
>"Yes, I want to be indoctrinated soldier #10486034001 and be part of the war machine bringing humanity closer to extinction and will accomplish this by throwing my 70 something kilo flesh at endless nightmare legions along with bajillion other guardsmen so the enemy can hopefully drown under our biomass and make our lord captain win another medal but end up making things worse anyway in the long run because the faggots commanding us are shortsighted fools at best and literal chaos plant sabotaging the entire thing at worst; resulting in a net negative by probably feeding chaos gods, some altar, some tyranids maybe"
Said every American zogbot.

>>712370193
>>712373101
That Noise Marine is from 2003 I think

>>712373934
>Fight for something and die for something you believe in surrounded by your comrades in arms feeling that you did something with your life, making a good distraction from the abject horrors of the 40k universe

>Let literal fucking demons and manifestations of evil take over and morph the universe into a surreal nightmare hell where there's no real reason to exist other than to serve the whims of the Gods

Man, I wonder what side a rational person would choose

>>712376252
>live and die like a retard doing a space-jannitor job for people who hates you
>take what you want from reality and do whatever you please for the lulz
Yes, the correct side is pretty obvious, reddit formatting guy.

>>712376252
>>Fight for something and die for something you believe in surrounded by your comrades in arms feeling that you did something with your life, making a good distraction from the abject horrors of the 40k universe
lol it's funny think this. The ZOG Emperor see regular humans as nothing more than fleshbags to be thrown at his enemies. His elites are the true heirs of his version of humanity.

>>712370957
>ok we need a paratrooper regiment
>I know! strap a jet-pack on his back because its sci-fi
kys baby franchise for baby men

>>712371096
>>712371231
>>712371680
>>712373101
>bragging about being old on FourthChannel
Wow, very cool

what funny about ops meme is the fact 80% of the time imperial guard regiments aren't deployed to fight chaos or xenos, but deployed to supresses planetary rebellions that arise due to the Imperiums shit tier rule

>>712370957
Well, there's the aquilons now, but then those technically aren't Elysian drop troops, they're scions that happen to specialize in the same sort of ops, and as such use a lot of the same equipment.

>>712373934
The only good guys in 40k are unironically Craftworld Eldar

>>712376676
>do whatever you want

Yeah, just like Angron and Mortarion.

It would be understandable and more palpable to accept you having the Imperium as your favorite faction because they look cool. But to say just because they're the humans? Gay as fuck.

>>712376970
Warhammer stopped being fun when orks couldn't have looted vehicles anymore.

>>712376676
>Take whatever you want from reality

>Reality no longer matters because it's meaningless and so your existence becomes pointless and your misery becomes self-sustaining

What now, retard?

The number of miserable brown virgins on this website is getting out of control. It's literally no fun allowed in any thread ever, nothing can be cool or fun, all they do is bitch and cry 24/7

>>712370957
>2012
Newfag

>>712369803 (OP)
games workshop is doing all they can to poz it.

>>712370957
So it's just a fusion of an edf trooper and wingdiver then

Imperium - basically enthralled by the Emperor, who is a nascent chaos god, sucking up souls and worship for his ascension to a "better" future for mankind as warp entities no less

Votann - genetic mutants riddled with faulty data transcription lead by glitching AIs

Eldar - neurotic

Tau - second coming of necrontyr, cannot be trusted since they're effectively all enthralled by their priest caste who are using who knows what kind of eldritch means to control their population

Chaos - boring one note edgelord bullies

Necron - has beens

Tyranids - swarm of locusts designed by a c'tan, they're merely a tool or "space weather"

Orks - good guys, just aving a laff

>>712377092
A based opinion on /v/? Maybe the future has hope after all.

>>712377124
>the two biggest losers of all the primarchs are still total losers

>>712371332
This has a metal slug vibe to it and I think that's cool.

>>712377823
>sell your soul to chaos
>still a loser
Embarrassing indeed.

>>712377092
Craftworld Eldar are just the same degenerate Eldar from before the fall but in denial that one day they'll be with the rest of their race and belong in hell

Now that the Hivemind is purposefully aiding and abetting some Genestealer cults to escape the swarm and propagate elsewhere it's pretty much objectively best to be a Genestealer Cultist

>Hot 4th Generation wife
>Big, intimately connected family
>Raise the perfect children in the image of your God and Father
>Overthrow the corrupt and wicked Imperials

>>712378102
Craftworlders were not from populations that embraced the Pleasure cults that birthed Slaanesh.

>>712373101
Honest to go though anything after 2011 genuinely is pure sloppa. I think the world ended in 2011 or something. Or we got our servers transferred to a simulation because EVERYTHING is shit since then. Everything

40k is and always has been shit because sci-fi is inherently pozzed.

Fantasy has no blacks and females can only fight with magic or of they're not human.

>>712378641
>"Muh simulation"
Okay, Reddit.

>>712378429
god, i love them but the whole tyranid thing sucks

>>712378880
I think them being from outside the Galaxy was kind of a fuckup, espescially when there is lore of Tyranid bioforms that predate their presence in the milky way by millenia if not longer.

Genestealers are good enough to be their own thing entirely seperate from the bugs, and part of me thinks they should have been

>>712370957
Bodied that freak

>>712370957
>zoomgroid thinks something from 2012 is "old"

>>712379474
Why are you replying to yourself

>>712377428
That's the way it's been ever since I started posting here back in 2007. I think the people here are just losers who hate life in general and need something to complain about. I think I understand why we were told not to post here because it's just misery piled on top of more misery. Just a bunch of no-fun faggots who suck at life.

>>712379209
Exactly!
Genestealers should be their own weird thing.
i love the sex cult aspect

>>712378102
>Craftworld Eldar are just the same degenerate Eldar from before the fall
They explicitly are not.

The Imperium is a complex institution

>>712371096
If "nu-40k" started, in your mind, at least 5 years before the release of Primaris marines then I don't know what the fuck you're expecting
Do you also think Dark Heresy 2e is "nu-40k"?

>>712379209
You are wrong on all counts.

>>712379851
There were some minor complaints to be had about 6th edition but yeah nu-40k IMO didn't start until 8th.

I miss when every 40k character was fuck ugly

>>712370957
>2012
Oh no no no no

40K isn't about morality, it's about aesthetics. It's about insane knights killing demons in space. And it's fun.

>>712380164
and cute girls!!!!!!

>>712369803 (OP)
Yeah, so, about that...

>>712379209
>I think them being from outside the Galaxy was kind of a fuckup, espescially when there is lore of Tyranid bioforms that predate their presence in the milky way by millenia if not longer.
You could imply they were part of some failed scouting attempt that landed in the Milky Way far earlier than expected. Being greeted by mostly Warp faggotry and Tomb Kang shenanigans. No real good biomass to be found so they called it off. They try to caveat this by stating that those older pattern bioforms have gone rogue. Enjoying their literal generations of automy cut off from the Hivemind. And they will stay leaving the planet like birds on the wind if they find out that a hivefleet is closing in. I'm sure you could make a decent survival horror based on this premise.

Hunter becomes the hunted where hes fairly outmatched combat wise so you have to use genetic memory going back millions of years to find a way through them. Older bug murking new bugs with the backing of an entire swarm.

>>712380271
>tfw baby boilers are basically canon

>40,000 years of genetic engineering and brutal dictators and warlords and galaxy spanning cataclysmic wars and alien and demonic predation
>Africans still exist
40k is woke.

>>712380419
it's not genetic engineering

>>712380271
bitch and cry more wetback

>>712380495
Genetic engineering is part of the canon. "Ethnarchs" are part of the canon.

Ah yes, the based, redpilled and not woke GW.

>>712369803 (OP)
The humans in 40k have always been the protagonists and everyone who whines about them ACKSHUALLY being bad guys are retarded faggots.
>B-BUT THEY'RE FASCISTS!
Okay retard, riddle me this: What are the books, video games, and basically every piece of media about? Are they:
>Fascism Simulator 40,000: Oppress Minorities Today!
or
>Heroic Spacemarine/Imperial Guard Fight Objectively Evil Rape Murder Chaos Demon - With Chainsword Swinging Action!
Everything that tries to make the Imperium "just as bad as the others" is some meaningless flavor text in an army book, or it is some asshole officer/agent who is portrayed as being an evil asshole prick. 95% of Warhammer media glorifies Space Marines and Guardsmen by making them the objective good guys and then they wanna try to say "B-BUT MUH FASCISM!!"

>>712379586
Not only is 13 years a long time, grandpa, but 8th edition (Cadia destroyed, Primaris marines, rebranding of every faction, Warhammer is for everyone) didn't come out until 2017.
Handy link for everyone else replying >2012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Fire Warrior remake would save GW

>>712380271
fuck xenos, theyre the space jews of 40k and the humans are noticers knowing of their tricks

>>712376970
>posting offtopic
And then, yeah, I just posted off topic, can you believe it? That's something else entirely.

>>712380419
>2025
>niggers AND dysgenic anime troons still exist
Real life is woke too it seems

>>712380625
Isn't the singular of Custodes "Custode?"

>>712369803 (OP)
Fantasy is supreme

>>712380837
Parts of WFB is supreme. Most is ultrageneric slop

>>712380787
Custode for singular Custodi for plural, probably. But guess you can use anything in the gay retard 40k faux-latin.

>>712380638
Not to mention Guilliman didn't return until 8th and that's when the primarch wank really started. I'm convinced that anon is a secondary with no idea of what he's talking about.

>>712369803 (OP)
>miserable as possible
>based
figures

>>712373934
>war machine bringing humanity closer to extinction
The Imperium is literally the only thing keeping humanity alive. Were it not for the Emperor humanity would've gone mostly extinct before the year 40,000 because of all the fuck huge xenos empires and incoming chaos invasion that was going to happen anyways

>>712380636
Ask me how I know you're brown?

>>712380913
Nah, even the more generic stuff in Fantasy that falls in line with predictable tropes is typically well done. Ignoring End Times and a spattering of certain characterizations it's legitimately one of the best Fantasy settings.

>>712369803 (OP)
haha, chainsword go BRRRRRRRRR

>>712381025
I just think it's extremely funny (in the sad kind of way, like when you realize you're surrounded by fucking retards) that so many anons are quick to tell on themselves as either actual honest to god secondaries or actual bitter 50+ year olds.
I mean for the latter, what the fuck happened in 6th edition era 40k that it registers as "nu-40k"?

It's my understanding that what everyone refers to as "nu-40k" is all the silver age bullshit that's come about after GW soft-rebooted the setting in 8ed.
I don't actually expect any of the >2012 niggers to explain themselves. The announcement of the Dark Heresy owlcat game was probably the first time they even heard of the RPG.

>*cought cough cough*
>at leeaassstt....I'm nooott....with xenoooos...
>*gurgling in unimaginable agony*

Chaos may warp me, but the Imperium takes away my penis so fuck them.

>>712381482
Nu-40k started with the 3rd edition, you retarded zoomer.

>>712380237
Yes

>>712369803 (OP)
bro...

>>712370056
You alright, lil buddy?

>>712381638
Thank you for admitting that you have never played a game or painted a mini in your entire life

>>712380625
>female custodians
hell yea

>>712381179

>>712381638
>i've been BTFO
lol

>>712381638
nigger you weren't even ALIVE for 3rd edition

>>712369803 (OP)
I like Lord Blood Cum of the Rape Demon murder fucking warband, he's a pretty chill dude
Also post models

>AIIIEEE IS THAT A FLYING BABY WITH KNIVES
>SAVE ME ORBITAL MISSILE DELIVERY SYSTEM

>>712381875
Is it violet or fuchsia? I like the shade of it.

>>712381574
marines have working penises its been confirmed by a semi-canon source

>>712369803 (OP)
There are others, but I don't want to talk about them on /v/. Too many normalfags here and I'm no snitch.

>>712382050
weird how marines have a hands off approach to human reproduction given how vital they are, you think they'd have women pumping out neophytes all the time

"There are no good guys or bad guys"
>Nu-40k

Yeah...
Before a buncha new fags came in from the FPS/3rdPS games there totally were good guys and bad guys.
>The Imperium is evil because it does terrible shit!
Nah man all Governments do evil shit.
A Government's job is to make sure that it's population is doing great not everyone elses.
>They sacrifice thousands of people every day!
Yeah and so does every state.
>Eldar plot against ...
Yes
>Tau Chemically casturate
yeah ditto
>Chaos rapes
Condor

40K is just a hodgepodge of unoriginal shit.
It exists to sell models.
GW marketing will take whatever the popular opinon is to sell models.

The exact moment 40K became shit was when they made Black Library canon.
If you ignored BL it was OK. They started retconning things in the last 2 years. Anyone becoming a lorefag is just queing up to choke on a dick now.

The best part of 40K is = instead of playing a pre-existing anything is you and your mates making up your own shit. Most of you don't play 40K. You just read Black Library and know jack shit.

>>712381998
For the pink? Just a few coats of vallejo squid pink
Flesh is some unholy combo of screamer pink -> pink horror -> medium fleshtone -> pale sand and then finally a wash of agrax earthshade
Though each one was done differently (mostly the heads) so I can't recall the exact consistency, EC to me is very much a "Fuck it lets try this" painting project

>>712378429
You forgot
>Gets devoured by your false gods
bugbro.

and for the record it's not even "secondaries" that are a problem. There's nothing wrong with knowing of WH purely through video games and novels. Maybe joining in on a TTRPG session or two.
It's the confidently wrong secondaries. Thirdies, even.
>>712381638
>NO YOU SEE... NU-40K STARTED WHEN THEY ACTUALLY TRIED TO MAKE IT INTO 40K AND NOT JUST ROGUE TRADER: RETARD EDITION

THE FUCKING NOISE MARINE IN THE OP IS *FROM THIRD EDITION* YOU RETARD AHAHAHAHAHA WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU QUIT WHILE YOU'RE AHEAD

>>712381486

>>712382050
Some random Russoid programmer is not an authority on 40k canon. I'm 100% certain there's a line that says space marines are sterile and have no sexual desire to speak of.

>>712381574
>>712382050
>marines have working penises its been confirmed by a semi-canon source

Exact proof of what I was saying about no one knowing fucking shit

It is CONFIRMED in the Space Wolf Codex. It is LITERALLY CANON that the space viking super humans fuck women on Fenris and the women love it.

>>712382198
I guess it's to prevent the condition of Space Marine from becoming a hereditary position, kinda the same reason the vatican doesn't allow priests to get married. makes sense

>>712382374
>thirdies
There are public schooled people ITT right now.

>>712382469
>space marines are sterile and have no sexual desire to speak of.
Didn't the ZOG Emperor say he didn't want humanity replaced with Space Marines? Or did that get recon'd again?

>>712382198
Producing something like a Broodrat is probably tech heresy if not straight up sorcery. It's also sort of unnecessary if you have a whole planet, sometimes multiple, constantly pumping out potential recruits for an organization of 1000 dudes. Though I did always find the Black Templar method of constantly injecting new Neophytes into squads made a lot more sense than the Codex compliant method

>>712380271
>xenos infants grinder
you can just say saint for shorthand

But humans are xenos everywhere outside of earth?

I like post-Girlyman Brighthammer more than the nothing ever happens era.

>>712382198
We should skip the middleman and have women pumping out marines instead.

>>712382742
BTFO

>>712382742
thats racist

>>712381486
What's this supposed to be? Those SoB servitor guys?

>>712382198
Did you know? Female skaven are actually intelligent which makes their situation so much more disgusting. they're basically prisoners hooked on drugs all the time.

>>712369803 (OP)
no it's kinda shit but it looks "mature" and grim so you'll prefer it over the alternatives.

>>712382875
yeah the arcoflagellants
>tfw the chuch routinely floods cities with holy necromorphs

>>712382760
Post girlyman isn't even Bright. Even Mccragge was so awful that the first thing he did was close the local Library because it would be a waste of time trying to teach the modern Imperium anything. He's also currently losing a war with the Tyranids, the fucking chump. Chaos is getting embarrassed though.

>>712369803 (OP)
>>712370957
Always hated this design, looks like it belongs in EDF, not warhammer. That lasgun is ass too.

>>712377092
But that's not Necrons bros just want to chill in grimderpness of 40k

>>712382582
If you're implying that the people ITT are the same as the chat-gpt relying goblin hordes coming out of the american school system right now, no, I don't think so because otherwise they wouldn't even be able to type.
There's just a heap of midwits.

>>712382927
Isn't there a stark difference between Broodmothers and a normal skaven female? The Thanquol series had a Grey Seer describing being groomed by a group of breeders. Also another asshole Grey Seer had a whole harem of Amazon Stormvermin to protect him.

It's just sort of in the same camp as female beastman. Yes they exist but we're not going to dwell on them much.

>>712379851
Eras of 40k
>Rouge Trader
despite being the oldest its treated like an fondly looked upon but not respected aberrant beta
>1st and 2nd edition
The Old Grognard era everyone gripes about 40k no longer being
What anon is trying to say is the best
>3rd-7th
The era of 40k most "old guard" actually played. However they refuse to admit it because it introduced the Tau in 3rd (2001) and the Necron lore rework in 5th (2008) among other things.
>8th-Now
The current era of 40k

Only a handful of people over the age of lets say 35 to be generous still post here so most of the "oldfags" are really just posers.

>>712383181
Its really bad and bland, it looks like something made using AIslop but worse because it was made by an actual human bean.

>>712383205
A lot of Necrons are in fact assholes and they are having a civil war over which flavor of asshole they want to be.

>>712369803 (OP)
No

>>712383462

>>712383383
But Anon, Rogue Trader is the 1st edition.

>>712383365
Do you remember the title of those novels? I want to check them out

>>712381695

>>712382760

GW made them retcon it.
>Humanity literally beats everyone and wins
>Wait...
>In the grim darkness ... there is only war.
>NO WAR
>This won't sale models
Girlyman winning the 10,000 year war in 100 years was stupid shit though.

See this Anon >>712383124 is so new he didn't even know about the retcon and about how Humanity won. I bet he believes that Starchild shit too.

>>712383205
Depends on how the Szarekh arc turns out. At the very least Imotekh and Szeras are straight up evil. I'm huffing copium that Zahndrekh and SK will join the gorilla man knife ear stack.

>>712383181
>hating on the based ACK-a-tranny pattern lasgun
anyway for the guy itself you're not even wrong, the default elysian head is wet ass
the best looking drop troopers are the ones that have been kit bashed or at the very LEAST paired with the full face helmet

>>712383181
Yeah there's so many badass regiments and they choose to give us Starship Troopers ripoffs. Fuck Cadians in particular. Where are the Vostroyans, Maccabians and Mordians? Most of these guys are more interesting than any space marine chapter.

>>712383383
When people say the liked Rogue Trader, what they really mean is that they liked the beak helmets on the old space marines. Anyone unironically claiming that it was the best iteration of 40k are posers of the worst degree.

>>712382198
Correct me if I'm wrong, but space marine children would just be normal humans.

>>712383545
Fuck your right, sorry I have bee up all night and my brain is Fucked. Also I'm not a graybeard myself just a history nerd.
However 2nd edition came out in 93 and 3rd in 2001 so the point still stands that most of the "everything was better back in my day" posters you see better not complain about the Tau being "not edgy enough "or that a piece of art from 2012 isn't Trve 40k because they likely didn't start till after they were introduced.

>>712383954
Also that means "the good 40k" only existed for 7 years total.

>>712382198
for the Imperiums case, due to how many humans there are they really don't need any breeding programs since even if something is a one and million chance, one hive world is enough to give you all the recruits you will ever need, that and marines usually prefer their recruits to essentially be wild and not in controlled enviroments that a breeding program would give since the other part is having aspirants being trained killers despite being 12

>>712383813
then what the fuck is gene seed

>>712384317
Separate organs implanted into each marine, containing genetic material from their primarch. Typically harvested from marines periodically, or when they die, to be implanted in new marines. I'm pretty sure the actual genetics of a marine are not altered.

>>712383572
The grooming is just a little blurb from "Grey Seer". It's kind of vague so it's generally glossed over in discussions of Skaven females because the Rat Mothers are more gross and interesting to talk about. I don't remember exactly what the Amazonian Stormguard were from. I may have genuinely made that one up in my head.

>>712383808
RT was cool but it was barely playable and the base "lore" barely resembles the modern 40k, they have to publish six million White Dwarf articles to make it playable. 40k basically started with the second edition.

>>712381345
You’re either 8 or a corporate cock sucker

>>712384592
Got anything specific from the setting that feels lackluster? Pretty much everything from Fantasy is just a really good rendition on a pre-existing pillar of the fantasy genre without being tryhard.

>>712380237
why no nurgle?

>>712384503
I think the genetics of a marine are altered but not to a great degree and its more of a consequence of having new organs implanted along with the treatments to get said organs working properly, but you are right that said genetic alterations won't result in a theoretical child gaining any space marine features

>>712384837
Co-opted by reddit, now its the lamest chaos good.

>>712384317
>>712384503
Gene See is grown in two organs on a Space Marine's Body, those organs originally derived from a Primarch's genetic material, are implanted along with all the other super organs that make Marine what they are as children (young boys old enough to endure intensive surgery but before puberty fully kicks in)..
One matures and is extracted once it does so and the other is harvested upon death and the genetic material within is synthesized to make a new set of organs each.
So every space marine can make 2 more marines.

>>712377860
Read more

>>712369803 (OP)
this thread made me glad im not a contrarian fag or a boomer who gets hung up on primaris.

>>712370957
>Helldivers mentioned

>>712385026
I recall that marine bodies cannot properly use the organs themselves, which is why the progenoid organ does that for them. If you remove that, I imagine the rest of the Geneseed organs break down and malfunction, because they no longer have their "brain".

>>712385483
>he's a "proud" centrist cuck
Go figure.

>>712385391
So GW basically just got all their ideas from 2000AD? Nemesis and Dredd especially.

>>712370957
Sorry kid, I only consume media made in or before 1920. Combustion engines are shit, the Steam engine will never be beaten.

>>712385483
No it's pretty rational to hate on primaris. You don't have to accept everything.

>>712385730
40k is just a Dune, 2000AD, and Starship Troopers paste slathered over Warhammer Fantasy (which is just fantasy tropes filtered through a bunch of Young British Nerds adjacent to the 80s punk scene) that grew a unique layer of mold.

>>712385483
Primaris suck, in lore and on the table. Took everything unique to the eldar, and gave it to marinebabies.

>>712379209
Wrong wrong wrong as usual, tyranids were always explicitly from outside the galaxy from the very beginning of 40k and any stupid shit 'lore' you watched on youtube that says otherwise is wrong

>>712385986
Nice reading comprehension, champ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1imOVJ6PlA

>>712379851
Yes 2012 is the dawn of nu-hammer retard, you don't get to reinterpret objective facts just because you don't like them. Oldhammer to early 90s, midhammer to early 00s, newhammer to early 10s, nu-hammer to early 20s and downfallhammer currently

>>712379209
>Tyranid bioforms that predate their presence in the milky way by millenia if not longer.
Probably vanguard fleets or something. I think the implication was always that they were scouting our galaxy before invading. Star Wars did the same thing with the Vong.

>>712379959
Wrong again faggot

>>712386289
Nice try larper.

>>712386186
CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG
WOOOOOOOORLD EAAAAAAATERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
https://youtu.be/SaGz0wwLppk
God I fucking love that song

>>712385483
>I mindlessly C00Msoom shit
Great Tyranid impersonation, Anon.

>>712379851
Guess you could trace "nu-40k" to Matt Ward, he did irreparable damage to 40K, that's around 2008.

>>712386289
When was the point of no return? When did Games Workshop start buying into its fandom's belief that they invented sci-fi?

>>712369803 (OP)
That is just a non-sexy wingdiver from EDF

>>712381482
>what the fuck happened in 6th edition era 40k that it registers as "nu-40k"?
Matt Ward and his ilk flanderising everything for one thing retard, space wolves going from techno-barbarians to wolfy wolves wolfing the wolf wolf for another. 6th was where it became a 'hobby' for mewling little faggots

>>712385483
I read this as
>this thread made me glad I "play for fun"
>Posts Ferros
Correct me if I'm wrong.
R.I.P. Ironclad Dread
At least your army is meta now, even if they aren't being ran as them.

>>712383813
Yes they are normal humans.
However. Space Marines train 22 hours a day and huge.
That's ALOTTA stamina mate.

>>712385984
>In lore
Nah mate the way they handles it was shit though.
>On the table
Nah mate they win games and kick ass right now if you're running the good shit.
>Took everything from the eldar
Yes you are 100% right. They took the most popular and versatile army in the whole fucking game and made it hyperspecialized.
Almost like they wanted you to buy alot of different models instead of spamming just a few.

>>712385730
Everything is derivative in 40k.
Best part is when shit is derived from 40k.

>>712379209
Idiot... They LITERALLY have their own fucking army.
They invaded the Milky way.
They are fucking cool though.

>>712385730
Yes they did. That’s why Cavill loves it so much.

>>712380237
Cultist chan looking good these days

>>712369803 (OP)
the rape demon did nothing wrong

>>712386423
excellent choice

>>712382520
No it isn't unless you mean some modern shit for retarded babbies, space wolves become marines much later than other chapters and have fathered children before they are selected but they do not have sex afterwards as it is actual canon that all marines are gelded, the real reason being that Rick Priestley isn't a gooning faggot but knew you would be so he cut it out from the start

>>712369803 (OP)
You see lord cum had a really tragic backstory though

>>712383091
i love arcoflagellants, there's an amazing description of one fighting in Lords of Mars and it made me want more about them, they can absolutely mince through infantry, the one in that book massacred like 20 people in 10 seconds

>>712376970
>gets btfo
>uhhhh… your old i don’t care
Sarcasm won’t hide the tears kiddo.

>>712387351
>picrelated

>>712387773
They're not even old they're just posers and secondaries trying to fit in. In all likelihood they weren't even alive for 3rd edition.

Necrons are objectively the Good and bad guys of the 40k universe

>>712387928
Skeleton NIGGERS aka necrons can suck the holiest parts of my imperial dick

>>712387928
Post retcon Necrons are objectively the Lamest and gayest guys of the 40k universe.

40K was always gay. The only interesting part is the God Emperor and even that is overplayed

>>712387928
no they aren't, they fucking ruined everything
justify the war in heaven, otherwise known as the war of seething right now
they ruined everything by making the c'tan, they ruined everything by transferring to metal bodies, they ruined everything by killing the old ones, they ruined everything by wrecking the realm of souls, they ruined everything by then breaking the c'tan, allowing the eldar to rise/create slaanesh, unleashing the enslavers... etc

r/HorusGalaxy (coneservative warhammer sub) was banned on reddit so all the wokehammer cunts have been jerking themselves off over beating "the chuds".

>>712388174
they fucked everything up and they will fix everything just you watch

>>712388404
lmao it was banned? what for? I'm not even a conservative but I really hate that faggot website.

>>712388581
Admins banned all the mods and then banned it for being unmoderated. Reddit's quickest way to ban places they don't like but that aren't breaking rules.

>>712388404
Well, that explains the nu-40k apologists ITT.

>>712369803 (OP)
LOVE IS LOVE BIGOT!!

>>712389024
You mean tourists from Reddit because their sub was banned?

>>712369803 (OP)
>40k
>Sci-fi

Why don't zoomers understand genres anymore?

>>712389024
1st edition 40k was gay
2nd - 5th were the glory years and no, I don't think retconning the necrons was a bad thing and it's nowhere near as bad as femstodes

>>712389134
Yeah, r/the_donald all over again. Guess we can expect a ton of retarded 40k threads flooding the site for now on. I almost feel bad for /tg/.

>>712389153
so why is it not science fiction?

>>712389153
40k technically does both sci fi and science fantasy

>>712389060
I feel like people who like EC like it for the horror aspect. Real troons likely find it too problematic and gravitate more towards Tau and Eldar.

>>712389291
>I don't think retconning the necrons was a bad thing

>>712389347
>I almost feel bad for /tg/
i don't. it's the most miserable place on earth

>there exist people that actually sympathize with chaos and don't play them ironically

>>712389483
Keyword: almost.

>>712389291
Tau were from 3rd edition.

>>712389463
Them just being alien terminators is gay, them being space tomb kangz is way better

>>712389578
>there exist people that actually takes 40k seriously and don't play it ironically

>>712389683
Believing in mankind is always serious and always good to do. Sucks to suck.

>>712389578
>>712389683
Who the fuck plays things ironically? Are you guys faggots or something? Something looks cool I like it simple as

>>712389607
Also never hated the Tau, the fact people fall for the "they're akshully the good guys" schtick is in fact hilarious. 40k barely gets new interesting xenos factions anyways

>>712389389
>>712389393

It's straight up fantasy, not even science fantasy. Just because something is set in space doesn't make it science fiction. And fantasy doesn't always have to be in a medieval setting.

40k is fantasy, plain and simple. And there's nothing wrong with that. But claiming 40k is a genre that it isn't makes you look retarded.

>>712389752
>I spent 4 grand on painting pieces of plastic as a joke dude

>>712389798
so what are the key elements of science fiction then?

>>712389798
It very obviously has aspects of both you pedantic faggot

>>712389798
40k has sci fi and science fantasy. By definition 40k has a mix of speculative fiction based around existing scientific theories and has magical bullshit with pseudo scientific explanations for it. It does also have medieval fantasy settings in 40k. 40k is a hodgepodge of a lot of random shit

>>712389767
I really like their aesthetic (pic not related) but I never liked the "lol 8000 year long warpstone" excuse. They're right on the edge of the galaxy. They could have just been characterized as a young race the Golden Crusade just missed and that a bunch of other genocided Xenos happened to coalesce around.

Every faction in the setting has some spiel about being some million year old super power, I like the T'au being a young race, I just think it would meld into the rest of the setting better if it was more a direct result of the Imperium's xenophobia.

>>712389998
It must be comprised solely of elements that may not yet exist in the real world, but are still within the realm of possibility according to established science. That's actually why most things that people call science fiction aren't actually science fiction.

>>712390009
Words have meaning, retard. Don't get mad at me for calling out your inability to use words correctly.

>>712389578
some men just want to watch the galaxy burn for no real reason
>but why did you virus bomb my homeworld?
>because i can

>>712390357
>but are still within the realm of possibility according to established science
Wrong

>>712389134
>tourists
Hello wokehammer nerd, yes I do think femstodes were a dumb idea, come and get me.

>>712390357
Dumbest post ITT, and it's a 40k one.

>>712390663
I agree though. That doesn't change the fact that you're a Redditor though does it?

>>712390357
ahh, i see you're taking the heinlein definition as gospel, when there is none (zero) concrete definitions of the genre. no, that is not the definition and there really isn't one, barring the relatively vague quote "Science fiction is what we point to when we say it."

you might be thinking of speculative fiction, a more serious take on the limits of humanity considering the knowledge we currently have.

>>712370957
>Elysian Drop Trooper
These niggas were always gay and soulless. They were a pet faction for forgeworld, a boring mudcore realism imperial guard army for gay rivetcounters that wanted to play historicals but were too gay.

Turned out airdropping guard close and light is pretty fucking stupid when everything else is a demon with blenders for hands and you want to stay as far away and as armored as you can, so they were fairly unpopular and never reappear in anything.

>>712380164
For me, it's the mecha, the hivemind of monstrosities, and the mutant cultists interbred with said monstrosities.

>>712392041
for me it's the image of a ww2 howitzer shelling actual sword wielding demons from actual hell before a battleship in orbit of the planet declares it a lost cause and bombs all life off it without warning, i love it so much

>>712369803 (OP)
Whats the obsession with the basic troops and his family. I saw their shit barely sells.

>>712382352
>Get devoured by your bug gods
>Your bioessence is used to create new bug gods that further liberate believers
>Your mind becomes one of untold trillions joined in the hivemind

>>712380237
imagine the STDs...

>>712380771
Say one more bad thing about the Necrons and I will give you a taste of my Gauss Flayer.

>>712382198
They intentionally want the hardest motherfuckers to ever exist, which is why they recruit from child soldiers/gangers on death worlds, underhives, etc. It's all about quality over quality, especially considering each chapter is limited to 1000 brothers.

>>712392768
>mfw there is an entire alien race that exists to cuck old other races

are genestealers really that sexy?

>>712393701
Probably some mixture of genetic engineering and psychic fuckery.

>>712394363
Exactly. Between the pheromone-laced gene-altering DNA and the warp-fueled mental manipulation, you're basically brainwashed into wanting to breed with a bug. It's not that they’re sexy—it’s that your brain gets hijacked into thinking they are. Tyranid Tinder is just a mass hallucination.

>>712379209
>Genestealers are good enough to be their own thing entirely seperate from the bugs, and part of me thinks they should have been
They were originally a species that worked alongside the Swarm, while not actively being a part of it.

>>712395058
It's just like in my Midori no Rupe doujins!

>>712381998
bro, please check your eyes, or at least your monitor settings.

>>712369803 (OP)
It's really funny how 40k attracts lefties like flies on shit who keep getting into huge arguments about why the Imperium is akshuxhcally bad and gutsrape skullfuck reality annihilator is good

>>712398841
>gutsrape skullfuck reality annihilator is good
Shit that never happened