Thread 712383090

What the FUCK?

>>712383090 (OP)
Nvidia chads always win. Only reason i want amd to bring out good value cards is so that i can get a nvidia card cheaper like everyone else.

>>712383090 (OP)
I'm in the 8%.

>>712383090 (OP)
Feedback loop. Less people use AMD, so game devs spend less time getting their games to work well on AMD, so more games run worse on AMD, so even less people buy AMD, repeat. Trying to convince developers to do the correct thing by coding to platform-agnostic standards is quite an uphill battle.

>>712383090 (OP)
>shipment share
So are we counting server farms after all?

>>712383090 (OP)
GPU market share includes AI ready GPUs and workstation GPUs as well?

>>712383090 (OP)
AMD WON! EVERYONE UPGRADED FROM A 4090 TO A 9070!!!!!!!
>>712383752
It says "PC GPUs," so it's gaming junk. Nice try, though.

>spend $1000 on a GPU
>can't prompt gooner sloppa with it
Sorry but I'm sticking with Nvidia even if they're fuckers

>>712383861
workstations and AI ready GPUs are PC GPUs too.

>>712383861
Yeah, the 5090 is a "PC GPU", but you can still throw it in a server and call it a node.

>>712383090 (OP)
As it turns out, if you have a monopoly you CAN charge whatever you want. Wow!

>>712383090 (OP)
But I hurd AMD is the best and is way better than nvidia. so why so many people that pretend here to have amd cards if that’s the case or unless it’s paid Rajesh shills

>>712383974
Unless you're really running cheap, their dedicated datacenter stuff ends up being cheaper overall once you reach the same scale.

>>712384036
Because they want a nvidia card cheaper so they trick retards into buying a amd card to make some artificial competition

>>712383861
i went from a 2070 to a 9070xt, seems alright so far

>>712384361
That's a jump, but a 4090 beats every gaming GPU out there except the 5090 (the 5080 might edge it with multiframegen).
I was just mocking the "AMD won" threads that talk about how their top end GPU still can't beat the previous gen flagship from Nvidia. It's a solid cheap card to upgrade from a tater card, though.

>>712383625
It's not even remotely related to games anymore.
Nvidia has just cornered the AI market, and AMD haven't even tried to keep up.

>>712383752
I think this is discrete gaming GPUs only, and part of it is AMD's 14% share is increasingly integrated graphics.
Even most PC gamers now can get by with integrated graphics now that they can deliver RTX 4060 / RX 7700 level performance and far more VRAM than any discrete card.
Was inevitable when the base of worthwhile current gen discrete cards is over $500.

>>712384524
AMD only seems to have won the CPU stuff, maybe they can pull off GPU gains one day but Nvidia is a monster, they wont slip up like intel.

>>712383090 (OP)
>8% of people are fucking retarded

>>712383664
It says PC GPUs which wouldn’t include those.

>>712384920
>that includes workstation GPUs as those are PCs dumb dumb.

>>712384905
>brand loyalist
Good goy.

>>712383604
>he boughted amd

With Nvidia cards you games will work.
With AMD cards it's always a 50/50

>>712385089
lol'd

I'm actually about to get an amd gpu for the first time since I can remember. Gonna get a 9070xt because anything equivalent on nvidia's side is way too fucking expensive. Plus, it used to be that part of the nvidia tax was not having to deal with amd bullshit like bad drivers, but I've heard 5000 series cards have been having driver problems so that's a moot point now.

>>712383090 (OP)
>92
mfw

>>712384738
>Even most PC gamers now can get by with integrated graphics now that they can deliver RTX 4060 / RX 7700 level performance and far more VRAM than any discrete card.
That feel when you upgraded your PC after almost 10 years and use an AMD Radeon RX 7600. I am honestly okay with it. I am only doing 1440p gaming.

>>712384524
They officially bowed out of competing with Nvidias big guns 80s and 90s series, so its never been more over

AYYYYMD blatantly lied about the MSRP of the 9070xt even more so than NVidia did with their cards.

>>712383090 (OP)
AMD sucked ass for too long.

>>712383090 (OP)
Turns out that despite how much shilling the youtubers and the re*ditors do it doesn't matter. People only ever buy 1 AMD card their whole life or none if they know of a friend that got burned by buying a GPU from a 2-bit company like AMD. People play games, not benchmarks and when they do they want them to work. I feel bad for you 8 percenters.

NVIDIA will let your gen slop and AMD can't without major tweaking and that is GAY

>>712384719
These stats are just for their desktop GPUs. The only people buying GeForces for AI shit is hobbyists and companies that can't afford an H100.

Maybe AMD should stop being retarded with the prices. Buying a 9070 XT would save a grand total of $90. That's why I'm still going team green.

>>712385547
>Buying a 9070 XT would save a grand total of $90
Last I checked a 9070xt is around 850 while a 5070ti is 1k

>>712385089
it werks on my machine (arch gnu/linux btw)

>>712385759
I play EA/Mass Effect on MS/Windows 11. I like the Wendy's/Dave's Triple.

>>712385705
cheapest 9070XT is like 750$ in stock and the cheapest 5070TI is 825$ in stock near me.

>>712383604
I like AMD

>>712384719
>AMD haven't even tried to keep up
Except the Instinct 300 is going in ai clusters all over, anon

>intel at 0%
intelbros this is brutal….

>>712385705
Not anymore or maybe shits extra retarded in Canada.

>>712385906
>near me
Using microcenters for pricing is cheating.

>>712385906
Isn't 9070XT's performance generally closer to 5080 than 5070TI?
Or is that just with RadV?

Microcenter 9070XT at $650 still the best deal.

>>712383604
Same. ACO is a great compiler.

>>712383090 (OP)
AMD are too busy raping intel to make good gpus

>>712383090 (OP)
my 6600XT just kept giving me driver timeouts so i switched.

>>712383604
Me too, cheap gpus that just work while tech illiterate retards get scammed by nvdia.
feels good

>>712383090 (OP)
Why are you surprised, nvidia has all the support software wise, has all the "performance" gimmicks, have no competition in the high tier, and heir competition have nothing in the gaming laptop side gpu wise, which is by far the most popular segment nowadays.

>>712386374
>6600XT
why did you even have an 8gb gpu to begin with?

>>712386492
It's literally 256 times all you need to play every good game.

>>712383090 (OP)
Literally driver support but also figuratively monopolistic practices like forcing shitty memes like phys-x etc

Does this make nvidia a monopoly since the competion is ass?

>>712386667
>driver support
Nvidia cards catch fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAbl0fLY06U

>>712386667
>Nvidia: here's a new technology
>Developer: this is neat! I bet this will help sell the game!
>AMD: here's a halfass knockoff of that technology
>Developer: are you even trying?
>AMD: no. we're the good guys and our army of shills on 4chan will defend us

>>712383090 (OP)
El capitalismo gana otra vez hermanos! MAGA!The best product wins..., however, Nvidia has a monopoly, which means worse prices for consumers plus MAGA tariffs.Don't read this part! It makes us look bad! [/spoilers]

>>712386686
Yeah but no one will do anything because every government wants AI deals with nvidia so they let this slide since its for childrens entertainment.

I'd be really interested to know how much of that 92% marketshare are 30xx series and above.

>>712383604
Ouuuuu yeaahhhhhhh the cream rises to the top

>>712383090 (OP)
Meanwhile on the steam hardware survey, amd cards are 17% and rising.

>>712387297
>those retarded mount paths

>>712385482
>UserBenchmarks
lol

>>712383090 (OP)
TEAM GREEN...

HAS WON

>>712387386
If for some reason I would ever need to type the mount paths in type 4 or 9, hit tab it fills in the rest. Very advanced stuff!

>>712387331
The hardware survey contains all current hardware with an active Steam account. So if someone is gaming on an old PC from a few years ago with an AMD card, that's in the survery.

OP's link is exclusive for this last quarter. Just means that Nvidia made 92% of the GPUs sold in the past 3 months. It also counts non gaming buyers (AI, crypto, GPGPU developers, etc).

>>712383090 (OP)
Wow that's fucking terrifying
picture if there's another supply chain interruption. That's the end of 90% of all gaming. Nintendo, Xbox, Playstation, all of them use it now so there wouldn't be any escape.

>>712386039
It is extra retarded in leafland, 5070tis regularly go for 1089 leafbucks while 9070xts are constantly 950-100. At that point you might as well go with the better 5070ti.

>>712383604
3080 to 9070xt. Was a good upgrade.

>>712383090 (OP)
>Standard's market share was 64 percent by 1911 when Standard was ordered broken up
>Nvidia has 92% market share on GPUs
So, how does this not violate anti-trust laws in the United States when Standard Oil was broken up for a far smaller market share? What changed?

>>712387386
he could just link 'em

>>712385061
I'm not an Nvidia loyalist I'm an AMD-disloyalist and there just so happens to be no alternative (lol intel)
I'd gladly buy a 3rd party that wasn't either of these, but AMD is for actual retards at the end of the day so Nvidia is the lesser evil until competition comes along

>>712387624
>too stupid to understand that it's not descriptive, and therefore stupid (like he is)
linux users (who use autoinstallers), everyone.

>>712387851
1080ti to 7900xtx just to play 20 year old games in 4k.

>>712383090 (OP)

92% of the GPUs shipped in that time period. And that was the 5000 series launch.

On Steam they are 74%.

it sucks but every game is optimized for nvidia, most vr is optimized for nvidia, ai generation is optimized for nvidia

you are literally gimping yourself buying red

>>712387967
Because oil is important and fucking vidya games graphix are not you dumb frog

>>712383090 (OP)
glad I missed the investment window

>>712388116
Listen here dunning Kruger I’ve been using Linux professionally for longer than you’ve been alive. Go kys and never post again.

>>712388147
>2080
nah I'm good

>>712383090 (OP)
what market tho?

How is the 4090 and 4080 on Linux now? Last I remember DLSS didn't work.

>>712388156
>every game is optimized for nvidia
Like what? I don't play AAA slop
>most vr is optimized for nvidia
Super don't care
>ai generation
Super DUPER don't care.

>>712383090 (OP)
Fake news. 90% of this is AI farms. Meanwhile 9070XT is selling out in every store.

>>712383604
My 7900XTX has given me no issues so far

>>712387967
idk one is oil and the other is a product that most people don't actually need

>>712388382
>posts newegg
you sound like a faggot

>>712387331
this also includes iGPUs anon...

>>712388156
>it sucks but every game is optimized for nvidia

Literally all recent AAA titles run great on AMD since RDNA4 is the same hardware as PS5 Pro.

>>712388382
AI farms don't use cheapo consumer grade GPUs retardbro
Theimage you're replying to is specifically about PC GPU's (the cheapo shit in your image (not used for AI by anyone with above room temp IQ))

>>712388645

5080 and 5090 are used in AI farms all the time you fucking idiot.

To the point 5090 is banned in China and they got nerfed D variants. It was the same with 4090.

>>712388789
>(not used for AI by anyone with above room temp IQ)
>in China
Good talk

>>712388601
>5 Nvidia cards above the 9070, 3 from the prior generation
>DLSS not factored in, which would shove the 9070 down the list even further
>but muh fake frames and fake pixels
People with high end Nvidia cards are using it. Cope.

>>712388456
>>Newegg bad
Doesn't have any alternative recommendations where to buy. Sounds like a faggot.

I just want a card that will play games with gewd graphix and won't give me any grief for a "reasonable" price. I don't care about anything else.

AMD needs to release a 9080XT or anything with 32 giggledix of RAM so I have something to buy.

>>712383604
Based Intel ARC chad

>>712388873

9070XT is raping 5070 Ti. Cards above it are literally 2x more expensive.

>DLSS not factored in, which would shove the 9070 down the list even further

LOL LMAO even.

>>712389218
What about framegen? I see no mention of that.

BTW AMD is now better for steamers.

>>712389303
AMD has framegen too. At this point they are only lacking ray reconstruction. That's coming later this year with Redstone.

>>712389419
>4090 and 5090 suspiciously absent
>>712389517
But framegen isn't mentioned in that list, and it's obviously off if the difference with upscaling is that small.

Blender is also dropping cuda for VULKAN...I JUST BUYED A 5070TI TWO WEEKS AGO....NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

>>712389604
Framegen is a pointless gimmick especially in FPS games where latency is more important.

>>712389604
>4090 and 5090 suspiciously absent

>3k $ cards absent

No shit. Nobody but AI farms buy those.

>>712383604
I went from a 2080 to a 7900XTX in August 2023.

Was an amazing upgrade, had no isssues thus far.
Currently playing Hitman on my 4K LG OLED and it runs like a dream.

>>712388513
Why wouldn't you include them? AMD has integrated graphics now more capable than all but about the top 20% of Nvidia's latest and greatest discrete cards. The bottom end of Nvidia's user base don't even have ray tracing hardware and can't run games that are playable on a Steam Deck or a 580.

>>712387967
"well actually most gamers play on consoles and those run on amd"

does nvidia still bribe oems? that marketshare comes pretty much entirely from laptops and prebuilts
the discrete builder share is much closer

>>712389725
I ran postage stamp as a comparison, and I get 200-250 average.
Before you say something about the blurred spots, I noticed them, too. It's the UI elements blurring things behind them, not DLSS.

>>712383090 (OP)
LM studio
Adobe apps
Gimp/Krita
The fucking ClipChamp of Microsoft

Every software is designed for CUDA, if you have AMD cards you need the AMD Threadripper because the card alone cant handle everything

>>712390891
Every single thing in the screencap is blurry kek. You can even slightly see it on the UI too

>>712391305
The game's strikingly ugly. It's got grain that's not film grain. I blame idtech being pure shit since Q3 on.

>>712390854
>does nvidia still bribe oems?
Probably, but they hardly have to. Nvidia's hardware at every price point is a good tier lower than AMD's hardware (in hardware if not in performance from the Windows driver), and they crank them out in such larger numbers it is really hard for AMD or Intel (who is even further behind) to come close to them in price.
Windows reviewers will often claim AMD needs to "take a hit" on their GPUs to gain market share, and the sad reality may be that they've already tried that and it hasn't made a difference.

The 7900 series cards in the Steam Survey at .5 actually don't look too bad now when compared to their Nvidia competition with 4080 combined at 1.5%, but a lot of that is recent.

>>712383090 (OP)
I stopped buying AMD because their shit doesn't work. Change global aliasing in nvidia control panel? Works immediately, always, without any issues. Change global aliasing in AMD? Lol get fucked, it might work, it might not, usually not.

>>712385482
I bought 4 amd GPUs and still have to see these problems only reddit and literal browns in youtube comments seems to have
>>712387751
Playstation use AMD, Xbox use AMD, only the Switch 2 runs Nvdia
https://www.psu.com/news/sony-announces-project-amethyst-collaboration-with-amd-which-will-define-ps6/
PS6 is actually doubling down on AMD

>>712388601
AMD borderline can't play Wukong or Cyberpunk

AMD is the AEW of GPUs.

>>712397251
>dead consoles with no games use AMD
>most powerful handled in the world has an Nvdia GPU inside
Lol

AMD needs to significantly slash their prices and maybe more would go over there. Nobody wants to pay the Nvidia jew prices.

*AMD crashes in your path*
Piece of shit, crashes when playing Blasphemous, a fucking SNES game

>>712397345
I didn't have that much problem with Cyberpunk on frankly fairly garbage hardware.
Yes it ghosts like a motherfucker.

>>712383090 (OP)
What can i say, cons00mers love the fake frames

>>712397345
I have played Wukong and Cyberpunk 2077 on my 7900XTX just fine?
The fuck are you smoking.

>>712397717
Saar new hotfix#373828 rolled out saar, do needful and update your Geforce™ Nvdia App™

>>712383090 (OP)
amd doesn't deliver good drivers.

>>712397701
People wants fuctional GPUs that can play games without a driver timeout every 5 minutes so the choice will always be Nvdia
AMD should just give up on GPUs if they can't still make something that atleast works out of the box

AMD niggers need to make an actual good card that can rival the 5090.

>>712386435
AMD cant do professional work that uses GPU. It can only do gaming and nothing else. You'll be laughed at /3/ if you use AMD GPU

>>712397717
*nvidia crashes in your path*
Piece of shit, crashes when playing Cyberpunk, a fucking SNES game.

>>712397660

nobody with a thumbnail like that has anything genuine to say

>>712397660
>over 30% of my steam library does not work on AMD
Kek

>>712383519
>Nvidia chads always win
Yeah. Buying Nvidia means we have a stake in the company.

>>712383604
My 7800xt has never let me down.

>>712383869
https://github.com/patientx/ComfyUI-Zluda
https://vladmandic.github.io/sd-extension-system-info/pages/benchmark.html
>AMD in 13th place
>Shills posting Ls
Enjoy the (you), free advertisement.

No matter how bad the situation is, i will never, EVER buy an AMD GPU EVER again. They fucked me in the butt twice.

>>712398121
He boughted a 50xx and not the 40xx series.
Deserved.

>>712387967
It was over a hundred years ago so nowadays our legislators and politicians are much crappier. They pick and choose whatever they want, like bullying Spirit Airlines saying they can’t merge even though the only other option is to file for bankruptcy and sell their assets but only airlines are going to buy airplanes anyways lol but Disney buying everything is fine, Microsoft buying everything is fine etc

>>712397660
>emoji in title
>thumbnail
compelling evidence

>>712402005
emojis are a sign the video is a scam or the maker lacks intelligence because haha funny colorful emoji Xd

AMD exists as paper competition to Nvidia, not real competition.
Their cards simply less significantly less than Nvidia, and should be priced accordingly. Instead they take the price of an equivalent Nvidia card, knock 25 bucks off and call it a day. Get real! AMD can't do AI AMD can't do RTX AMD can't do professional programs AMD can only beat Nvidia at faster raster shadows in vidja and also offers an extra bit of VRAM (which Nvidia is intentionally starving to gimp AI-gen on their home user cards)

Hello?
AMD is gonna get me rich what yall complaining

>>712385228
Nvidia's unstable drivers are just their gaming drivers. Nvidia also has studio drivers which are the same thing as gaming but less frequently updated, more mature, and most importantly, have rock solid stability.

lol

>>712383090 (OP)
that's what decades of "$50 less than nvidia" will do to your business

>>712404204
>9060xt
These things are pretty shit for the price 5070 is better because of all the bad reviews making it under MSRP on sale

>>712388382
well thats cuz they didnt make any

>>712383090 (OP)
How does this shock you? The “competition” is a laughingstock, of course they have over 90%.

>>712388073
Only literal retards could argue with this post.

>>712398347
That's your GPU crashing as it's unstable

>>712402790
You goycattle don't deserve lower prices so you can buy you nshittia crap cheaper. That boat sailed a long ago. Now I wish worse and worse monopoly situations so you retards get scalped for more every year.

>>712383664
>So are we counting server farms after all?
No. This likely includes pre-built PCs which overwhelming include Nvidia GPUs.

>>712383090 (OP)
what the fuck is AMD doing? They announce a semi aggressive MSRP in an attempt to reclaim marketshare then immediately give up on it 2 weeks in. Even at msrp i dont know if their 9070xt would have reclaimed market share but i have no idea what their plan even is anymore, it just seems like they have completely given up on ever competing with nvidia.

>GPU is expensive but it just works
Wow no wonder people like them

>>712383090 (OP)
AMD could have taken the market by storm if they would have priced RDNA4 properly.
But nope! Instead they took a play out of ngreedia's playbook and allowed their cards to become overpriced as all hell.
There is no fucking way in hell i am spending 800+ USD on a 9070XT when I can get a superior 5070ti for similar price where I live.

if the 9070XT was $500 it would have been one of the greatest gpus to release.

when elden ring came out and gpu prices finally dropped after the lockdown/eth crisis amd dropped msrp first and the 6700xt was a steal at 300$.

The techpowerup said it was a 4k gpu, the box says its a 1440p gpu, i just kept my 1080p monitors and used it as an ultra overkill 1080p card. Turns out i was so right predicting how bloated games would get i ended up being wrong because i need fsr quality to play doom or monster hunter at 60fps at 1080p. but thats not amd's fault, a 3060 or 3060ti would be suffering the same fate.

the experience is fine, but i hear VR is barely supported on amd. wildly inconsistent between cards and series.

if youre twitch streaming or using blender, etc. amd is unusable, if youre just gaming, maybe recording video or streaming on youtube, its fine, but a bit worse at everything than nvidia except pure raster and vram per dollar.

>>712385061
P.C.M.R. are the biggest brand loyalist fanboys who worship Valve and NVidia.

>>712388320
are you sure you can keep resisting?

When did novideo ever have better cards? The only generation that comes to mind is Turing.

>>712407890
AMD is a publicly traded company, you cannot convince investors that its worth taking a short term loss to build market share. so it finds the sweet spot where they provide more in-game rasterization performance per dollar but make as much money as they can on sales as possible. and any gen where they actually get competitive and slash prices to gain marketshare, nvidia can just also do it and amd bleeds money for nothing because people will buy nvidia every time. and if that happens several times radeon is dead. never forget, the amount of people who "support" amd and the amount of people who actually buy their cards is not the same. most amd fans are just rooting for amd to put enough pressure on nvidia to get team green to lower their prices. their endgame was always to buy nvidia, they just want to save money.

amd is sort of allowed to exist as competition by nvidia, who recently became such a ludicrously large mega-corporation that they basically cant be beat unless they dont care about gaming at all anymore, which is an actual possibility.

The GPU market will never recover, will it?

>>712408859
Welcome to the new normal.

>>712385482
This. Bought AMD once and I will never do it again. Had a whole year of constant crashes, bugs, issues in almost every new game.

*raises paw*
Is someone seething about AMD drivers in 2025 an absolute guarentee they are an Nvidia shill?

>>712409757
No, they are microsoft shills or dumb fanboys. Novideo has no reason to hire shills anymore like they did 20 years ago.

>>712383090 (OP)
If the retards at AMD's GPU division stopped being run by the most retarded individuals on the planet, maybe they'd fucking go up in marketshare instead of just down every time.
They could've released the 16GB RX 9060 without putting out a useless 8GB model. Instead they put out a 8GB model, price -$50 of the 16GB model (not worth it). Then the marketing GENIUS Frank Azor goes out and says gamers don't need more then 8GB.
The only reason AMD doesn't have more marketshare is because of AMD leadership.

>>712383090 (OP)
KWAB

>>712383090 (OP)
Oh no 9070 shill-xisters, our reply????

>AMD s-sucks!
>9070XT is still 300+ over MSRP
hmm

I buyed boughted a 5080 :)

>>712408069
I love my 6700xt. It's still holding up well on my 1440p monitor besides Wilds being a piece of shit on my 1080p screen.
>Turns out i was so right predicting how bloated games would get i ended up being wrong because i need fsr quality to play doom or monster hunter at 60fps at 1080p.
kek. I don't know about Doom since that game looked fucking retarded (how hard is it to just make a fucking Doom game for these retards), but Wilds is a significant outlier in how fucking badly optimized it is, especially given how fucking ugly it looks. What a fucking shitshow that game is. Yes, I'm mad I get <60 FPS at 1080p with any settings that don't involve upscalers. And at this point, it'll never get fixed.

>>712383090 (OP)
I really don't understand how that overpriced shit can have success. Is it all due for the AI garbage?

>>712412675
Why do people buy monster energy when they can make a cup of coffee?
The market is stupid.

>>712390931
They're even missing out on Ren'py coomer games. Most WEG devs use DAZ Studio and that also needs CUDA.

>>712412784
What?

>>712383090 (OP)
>all commercial use is nvidia
>hurr guys they own the market
gaming use is not even a 10th of the market dumbass
every console uses AMD because its cheaper
normies use Nvidia because its aggressively pushed by vendors, same reason they use intel even though its dogshit vs any ryzen cpu

>>712414193
I'm not talking about playing Ren'Py WEGs but creating the art/images for them. Most WEG devs use DAZ Studio and that needs an Nvidia GPU (for Iray). You can do CPU rendering but it is fucking slow.

Haley's Story also uses DAZ gobbos.

>>712416609
>I'm not talking about playing Ren'Py WEGs but creating the art/images for them.
Ah. I wondered if that was the case, but the first sentence made me think you meant playing them after all.

>>712408859
Not with the death of moore's law and the increasing inflation. Honestly though gaming has kind of settled in a good place graphically. If we weren't being forced to use lumen+nanite bullshit then no one would complain.

>>712407472
>missed the RX480 samsung ram
>missed the vega 56 which could flash to infinity power
>missed 6800xt
>didnt get the 9070xt
>gets hoodwinked by the 1060 3.5
>swindled by 2xxx series downgrade drivers
>has to upgrade because 3xxx series wont support DLSS updates
i dunno man, you sound pretty dumb. intel arc will do AI just fine for dirt cheap.

>>712383090 (OP)
I think my 7900XTX was the best choice I ever could have made 2 years ago when I bought it. Gonna use this baby for years to come.

>>712417000
>AI

what was the last original thing AMD added to their GPU which wasn't a direct copy of Nvidia tech?

>>712417000
my ayymd story
>2013: bought a used $400 pc with an hd 6850 (nice)
>2014: buy an hd 7850 1gb from gigabyte (defective shit)
>2015: buy two HD 7950s for $120 each, crossfire them (great prices but perf scaling was only good on certain games)
>late 2016 buy a new in box r9 fury for $220 (score)
>2023: upgrade to a vega 56 8gb for $90 (not bad)
>2024: buy a sapphire rx 5700 xt for $120 and overclock it
loving it so far

>>712417010
>stuck with shitty upscaling
>shit ray tracing performance
>in the era of total njudea dominance forcing aisloppa down everyone's throats and lazy game developers
It's going to age like milk, sorry.

>>712417862
open source drivers
(copied from intel)

>>712418394
no innovation then

9070XT beats the 5070ti in many games

a pratical monopoly on core computer components does not sound all that good for consumers desu

>>712418364
It can just brute force rasterization. I'm good :)

>>712418896
GDDR5
DX11
DX12
Vulkan

>>712419158
AMD invented GDDR5, DX11 and 12?
lol

>>712419206
They had hardware out first.

>>712383090 (OP)
the power of BRAND tm

>>712418364
shitty looking games compared to arkham city anyway

>>712383090 (OP)
and amd holds 100% on home consoles

>>712383090 (OP)
The only reason to buy AMD is as a kind of protest against Nvidia to hope they lower their abusive prices.
You're willingly getting an inferior product just to give the middle finger to Nvidia.

And there's no chance their pseudo monopoly gets taken down either, because they have about 10 years of advantage in R&D over the competition.
We as costumers are fucked.

>>712383090 (OP)
I just love nvenc man I'm sorry

>>712419725
switch is nvidia

>>712383090 (OP)
how's this calculated? don't tell me it's the (((steam survey))) anyone with a brain opts out of

>>712419996
gonna be raped soooner or later with emuchads with amd

>>712383090 (OP)
I-is it true?

AMD cannot stop dropping the ball when it comes to graphics cards.

>>712420139
no one's buying a single rtx 5060. it's an embarrassment.

>>712417862
IIRC, audio output with ATI Radeon HD 4850. Nvidia later copied it.

amd is just garbage
I wish there was competition, but other companies let nvidia win by default

>>712419608
>hardware came out with microsoft compatibility before the competition
>this means AMD invented it

>>712398320
Why do nvidia fags pretend they are computer scientists? lol you retards understand how stupid you look when you pretend that you are a computer scientist using a consumer card.

>>712420262
see >>712420203

>>712420226
the day that my dvi connection to a display started making sound come out of the display's speakers freaked me the hell out

>>712383090 (OP)
GPU chips. not going to gaming products or users.

DLSS alone is enough reason not to buy GAYMD

>>712383090 (OP)
wow every youtube techbro swore to me AMD had won basically everything !!! how could this happen ???

>>712420752
AMD did win this generation (and last) in terms of gaming GPUs. But that's not market share.

>>712385175
>With Nvidia cards you games will work.
Yes saar, buy nvidia *head wobble*

>>712420531
>look look . nobody is buying this one GPU so that means nobody is buying other GPUs in the range

>>712420968
what does "win" mean
they didn't have the best performance
they didn't have the best efficiency
they didn't have the most sales
they didn't have the best features
what exactly did they win?

>>712421276
they won the GPU which nobody buys award

>>712421276
They sold GPUs that do what you need at an affordable price. Something Nvidia didn't do. They also made enough that you can buy them.

>>712421230
5060 ti and above are overpriced. terrible deals

>>712421276
>RTX HDR takes performance and is invalidated by Renodx
>Cuda cores are only important for creators
>RTX is a meme

What features does it have that AMD doesn't? I'll give it DLSS, but that's it. And most of the time Nvidia users have to use FSR for framegen lol.

>>712390026
Now check the upscaling technology

>>712420318
And what did no video invent? Patent trolling? Vendor locked software?

>>712421447
Nvidia users need to use FSR too, so they can use Framegen. Meanwhile AMD users get frame gen inside their drivers and can upscale with the better XESS. AMD actually wins in that regard.

>>712421445
It's fun reading the complete reality inversion from AMD fags claiming their GPUs can do everything.
Show your Cyberpunk Overdrive benchmark results.

>>712383090 (OP)
Rx 9000 series is garbage so obviously everyone is buying nvidia. Amd shills don't live in reality. They'll tell you amd took marketshare from nvidia based on a poll on some random German retailers forum of a few hundred people. In reality nobody wants amd trash.

>>712421498
Everything which you spend your days seething over in Nvidia threads

>>712421526
Wow, one game that runs like shit on AMD because it's an nvidia tech demo. It's not like a good game, but go off.

>>712421573
Just show your results.

>>712421614
I wouldn't install it. Least of all for you.

>>712421632
I know you won't. because I'm right and you're wrong.

>>712421357
their market share dropped, nobody was buying them

>>712421682
Right that Cyberpunk is an nvidia game? Yeah, I said that, actually. Aything else?

>>712383604
I'm in the 0

>>712421717
AMD was the better choice this gen = they won. Idc what people buy. If you choose what you buy by what is popular idk what to say.

>>712421514
is this what delusional cope looks like?

>>712421727
>it can do everything
>but not that. please stop. no not that one. stop bringing that up. it's not fair. Mods mods

>>712421784
Kek, enjoy Cyberpunk my man. I heard the DLC was good, at least.

>>712421827
>heh, enjoy that game I can't play my man

>>712421774
the best choice was an RTX 4090, AMD offered poor products and got poor results

>>712421886
>4090
>this gen

I get what you mean, but wrong.

Lot of ppl (like universities) buy GPUs for AI nowadays.

>>712421717
We'll be seeing the result of the 9070 release in the next survey and AMD will undeniably get a larger share in that one.

>>712421984
Why did you choose AMD?

Basically, if you can afford an RTX __90, get it. otherwise go AMD.

>>712421913
5090 is the best choice this gen

>>712398320
>92% of computer users make blender porn and cad autism

>>712422097
Not for the price. Pure performance? Yeah.

>>712422097
>Only

>>712421984
the same was said for RDNA3 but AMD kept dropping

>>712422097
The realistic choice is the 5070ti at or below MSRP.

So, not for burgers.

Isn't the 9070xt the best gpu rn since it's on pair with nvidia for RT and supersampling?

>>712422281
no the best GPU is the RTX 5090 it’s about 60% better than the 9070XT

>>712420489
They're like the big truck owners.
>nah bro trust me i need it to haul stuff

>>712422281
No. The top GPUs are still Nvidia. AMD already gave up on the high-end market.

>>712422389
What made you choose AMD?

>>712407414
>then immediately give up on it 2 weeks in
What'd they do?

>>712422359
>>712422436
I meant for price/value, to be able to run titles at 1440p/60fps? I don't want to spend $2000 for a gpu.

>>712421559
Making fun of people who get scammed is not seething

>>712389109
He said 8%, not decimal points.

>>712422532
What made you buy AMD?

>>712383090 (OP)
based Chadvidia, literally bought another yesterday
fuck shitMD and their dogshit drivers

>>712422565
I googled it in 2009 and it said they offer better value for money

>>712405015
t. literal retard

>>712383090 (OP)
America is the only nation that invents new technology. There is literally no competition simply because no one else understands this shit.

>>712384524
4090/5090 is way too expensive for everyone but the most dedicated prosumer, 3000€+ for a gpu was unheard of not even 10 years ago

>>712383090 (OP)
AMD's CEO is cousins with NVIDIA's CEO.

AMD is only still in the GPU market so NVIDIA can avoid legal issues related to being a monopoly.

>>712422615
that $50 saving must mean a lot to some people

>>712398965
How can you say that when it comes for so many others? Do you think AMD is out to get you? I once brought a PSU from Zalman that went bust in the first year, then I brought another (same model) and it last me almost 8 years. I don't get that rationale. These are electronics, sometimes, rarely, they just don't work.

>>712422659
No, you're just the only ones who have money. Everyone else are commies, except the Chinese. They are the only ones competing with America.

>>712422281
>on pair with nvidia for RT and supersampling?
In which world? In RT it performs on par with RTX 5070, a model one tier below it. For upscaling FSR is still a step behind DLSS with some blurriness still visible.
9070 XT is good but anyone still believing the jewtuber memes about it being the savior of this GPU gen is in for a rude awakening in 2 years when forced gaytracing becomes the norm.

>>712422721
>why don't you buy the worse performing and worse feature set GPU?

>>712422389
Literally me in the small truck. I've owned an 89 Toyota pickup for 12 years now, but since its head gasket now needs to be replaced I just bought a 98 Toyota Tacoma. So far it does everything I need in hauling small stuff in the back and getting me from home to work and back.

>>712422495
>price/value

Depends what do you mean by value, but it's either the 9060 16gb or 9070xt.

>>712408859
Intel needs to get their shit done, but that's years in the making.

>>712422784
just use upscaling. my Vega 56 went from 14 fps to 48 fps at 50% scaling in Quake II RTX

>>712422469
did what i needed for less the price

>>712422469
It was on sale during covid, it had the best performance to cost ratio and I needed a new card.

Got memed into getting the 9070XT constant crashes, scouring the internet for fixes that don't fucking work, returned that piece of shit and got a 5070ti and it just works.

>>712422878
>just use upscaling
Which is worse than what nvidia has

>>712422097
no it is fucking not. I could buy every other component in my system and still have money left over with what it costs to get a 5090.

>>712422971
And? You got to piss with the dong you got.

For ppl living in the US: which website do you use for buying a gpu?

>>712383604
AMD CHAD here

>>712422992
and you would have worse performance than a 5090, it's that simple

>>712422816
Then why didn't you say that? I guess you are not anon, but he specifically said it bite him, so my guess is there were problems. You are talking about the feature set.

>>712386435
>crashes

>>712422894
>>712422929
>the performance doesn't matter, only the price

I bought a RTX5080 but I didn't know nvidia's driver team had dropped the ball. Constant crashes and black screens was all I ever got, and "fixes" I found on internet made things worse. I RMAd that bitch and I'm now running off onboard graphics. nvidia really has to get their shit together.

>>712423168
>retard with no reading comprehension

>>712423115
I probably will never buy an AMD product ever again. I don't care what they release. I've owned AMD numerous times and each time found them to be dogshit. My last full AMD rig got sold less than 6 weeks after I bought it because it was that bad. Never again.

>>712422659
pretty much
remember that chinese AI? of course you dont, because it was literally fake and no one uses it or talks about it anymore

>>712423168
Nvidiots always get rekt in performace. You have no drivers.

>>712423252
>you can't read
>Price
>It was in a sale

>it had nothing to do with the price

>>712423306
I had a 980ti

>>712423306
>GTX 980Ti

>>712423346
You got lucky. Imagine if you accidentally bought a Kepler.

>>712383090 (OP)
nintendo and sega situation

>>712423168
bro are you actually stupid?
that's not what they said

>>712423395
I had SLI 670s

>>712397345
Cyberpunk ran amazingly on my 6600

>>712423445
damn you got wrecked bad. and you still give the scammers money.

>>712423441
>they didn't mention price
>>712422894 >for less the price

>>712422929 >It was on sale

>>712423503
now quote when they said performance doesn't matter

>>712423503
Getting a better card for cheaper is somehow bad?

>>712423494
I got rid of HD7970 for the sli 670s. it was shit

>>712423591
>better
?

>>712422942
Thats what always prevents me from getting an amd card, rather just pay a premium & have the peace of mind.

>>712423641
lol

>>712423315
>>712423168
>Performance to cost ratio
Do you want to try again retard? AMD has the best VRAM to dollar ratio.

>>712423569
the price mattered more than the performance

>>712423732
Listen you fucking moron, if 2 products do the same thing and one costs less than the other, if i buy the cheaper one it doesn't mean i don't care about the performance. Do you need a drawn picture to understand?

>>712423859
He's being purposefully retarded because he knows he is wrong

>>712423859
Umm what about the green logo don't you want to be fashionable?

>>712423714
You want a GPU. Which type of person are you?

>A. Do you search for the most powerful GPU you can buy for the money you have

or

>B. Do you look for the cheapest GPU you can find which runs X game at say 60fps

?

Oh boy I've not read the thread again, but let me guess it's infested with Nvidia jeet shills?

>>712423975
only AMD needs to bother to pay shills, NVIDIA just wins

>>712423975
>it's infested with Nvidia jeet shills
no, just poor amders coping

>>712424024
>calling people that don't buy nvidia poor
Yepp... this thread is just nvidiajeets

>>712423942
A, so I choose AMD

>installed new 50 series GPU
>DDU'd the old drivers
>as soon as the new drivers install windows freezes and locks up
erm nvidia bros, i thought nvidia drivers where supposed to be superior?

>>712424240
What do you mean anon, we have superior AI drivers now. AI improves everything, stop shorting our stock and saying the AI is turning our drivers to slop.

>>712423274
why, what the fuck happened, why would you do that?

>>712383090 (OP)

NVIDIA released newer generation first, so it could just be lag in reporting! Could take a while for those who buy a Radeon to show up in data!

>>712383090 (OP)
ARGHHHH!!!! I HATE THIS!!!!!!! I WANT TOTAL NVIDIA SUPREMACY!!!!! FUCK AMD!!! FUCK INTEL!!! AND FUCK MY WIFE WHILE YOU'RE AT IT!!!!!!

where the monopoly inspectors at?

>>712424078
lol

>>712383090 (OP)
When the alternative is somehow just as bad, you might as well stay with what you have already. Hopefully Intel unfucks its gpus in the next few years.

>>712383604
Based VoodooFX chad

>>712424581
I did actually have a voodoo2 as a young buck.

>>712383090 (OP)
"Gamers" (capital G) are among the most retarded consumers on the planet. Have you seen what rates highly on steam charts these days?

>>712424417
Nowhere, because this isn't a monopoly. Retards ITT are too stupid to understand charts like this and it proves you're all poorfags with zero investments.

>>712424318
It was ages ago now. It wasn't a single thing though, it was numerous things. I remember one of them was that it couldn't scale text correctly for my large screen so the writing was too small and unreadable in some VST synths.
The moment I went back those issues vanished and never returned.

It really is bizarre how AMD has more stable GPU drivers and dominates the desktop/server CPU market

For ppl living in the US: which website do you use to buy a gpu?
And which is the best nvidia gpu for 1440p?

>>712423251
That's not what the black screen issue was.
Good larp though

>>712424810
the best NVIDIA GPU for 1440p is the RTX 5090

>>712424810
Grooves.land is great. They're based in Germany, but they ship free to the US.

>>712424776
Intel is starting to catch up.

>>712424728
>this isn't a monopoly.
>owns most of home computing
>owns most of AI computing
>owns most of workstation computing because of CUDA and software stability in CAD types of software
lmao, nvidia is definitely a fucking monopoly, and just like plenty of other monopolies, you can't just spin up a new competing GPU brand all willy nilly

>hate AI
>hate zion
>luv AMD
simple

>>712424959
>in random games
>only in dx12
>while selling every single GPU at a huge loss
>Owning Shintel
no thank you

>>712424959
Their dual GPU should be competitive against Nvidia workstation cards.
>>712425121
>le jews xd
Go back to /pol/

out of curiosity, does any other product where a brand has that much monopoly? is apple like that too?

>>712425138
Intel laid their bad nvidia tier past behind and are trying to be good. They deserve my support.

>>712383090 (OP)
>your "competition" are your cousin and the kikes that are with one league with you in reality
>no real competition can arise as it will be bought, strongarmed into noncompetition or can't really even exist due to all the tech issues
>wtf why one company holds a 92% marketshare
MS and njudea are perfect examples of why monopolies are bad for everyone other than investor kikes

>>712425443
dont worry, after the EU forces apple to have replaceable batteries SURELY they'll start giving a shit about actual issues like monopolies

>>712425517
There is no monopoly. The Fortnite player base does not represent the market as a whole.

>>712414193
>All AMD system
>using wangblows
Disgusting

>>712425618
cool cope

>>712425332
>is apple like that too?
only in america

>>712417000
>gets hoodwinked by the 1060 3.5
That was 970

>>712417000
>has to upgrade because 3xxx series wont support DLSS updates
3000 series supports the latest version of the DLSS upscaler model, only AMD is refusing to port their latest upscaling models to older cards, if you bought an AMD gen older than RDNA4 you got swindled

>>712425916
Nobody uses troonix just like nobody uses AMD cards

>>712425916
baseded

I hate this reality.
All the games are built with Nvidia features in mind. All the AI tools basically require a Nvidia chip. Even basic productivity work is better in their pipeline. If someone were to ask me for advice on what parts to get for their computer unless they already tech savvy and probably don't need my advice in the first place. There is no world where I don't recommend they get anything but Nvidia card even if they can get a cheaper AMD that roughly comparable.

The only thing that can realistically make AMD competitive in the short term is Nvidia getting broken up by Antitrust. Which isn't happening anytime soon. What will eat at Nvidia marketshare in the long term is them getting too greedy and incentivizing companies to make their own custom silicon. OpenAI, Meta, Amazon, Google are already started to do this.

>>712427427
maybe if they just made something good rather than average

>>712424914
Why would you do that: GPUs in the US are much cheaper than in europe.

udna2 will save RTG

>>712427493
Looking at steam hardware charts a bulk of the people are on entry and to mid level cards. There is audience for average parts. But they are losing that market too.

>>712425081
AMD just went from making 4bn a year to over 20bn a year and their graphics products are moving more units year over year
>but muh AI
Stop spamming buzzwords. AMD owns Xilinx. Nvidia is out of the bleeding edge when it comes to dedicated inferencing accelerators, brute forcing these workloads on a GPU is a laughably huge waste of power. The have no true peer products in this field. Not a monopoly.

>>712420489
that Anon does have a point tho. AMD cards are basically just video game accelerators and nothing more.

>>712427946
Stop trying to talk out of your ass. Its really embarrassing.

>>712383090 (OP)
Because Nvidia gaming GPU's are the minimum you need to run AI local installs without forking out thousands more for workstation GPUs.

Somebody is buying them all up and running their own little data center.

>>712428037
>Because Nvidia gaming GPU's are the minimum you need to run AI local installs
How many times have you mindlessly regurgitated this without ever even looking at github? Not even the /g/ thread dedicated to this that spoonfeeds every single link to you retards?
Why even bother posting just to highlight your own ignorance?

>>712428010
>defending AMD selling you gaming-only toys for children
NVIDIA would be endlessly derided for gimping non-gaming workloads on their cards, why does AMD get a free ride?

>>712428037
no they aren't I wrote https://rentry.org/sd-nativeisekaitoo because amd is very much capable of running ai shit.

>>712387967
Our times are far more institutionally corrupt and the hypocrites in power are only becoming more brazen

>>712428445
>ignorantly spamming the same low IQ brownoid retard drivel
Give it up. kid

>>712428536
the AMD troon simply cannot handle that he was swindled

>>712427918
>AMD just went from making 4bn a year to over 20bn a year and their graphics products are moving more units year over year
Oh Em Gee, you mean like how everyone is selling MORE GPUs because there's a huge demand for AI? Like Oh My Gosh, no way!
>AMD owns Xilinx
cool trivia, Intel is trying to sell their competing branch because they're not worth keeping
actual AI only GPUs even being worth comparing to are chink brands and those are built on ARM and RISCV

>>712428629
Altera could never compete with Xilinx. You don't even know the first thing about any of this.

>>712383090 (OP)
WHAT THE FUCK people are getting what they paid for.....being able to play games with no problems.

>>712427946
good thing my pc is basically just a video game and multimedia player, then
if I work I do it on my office laptop

>>712424078
how about you get a job lmao

>>712421170
AMD is literally the indian gpu though. Because they're cheap.
Only white gods can afford top of the line Nvidia cards.

>>712427547
Take a look at their prices and you'll see how wrong you are. My brother got a 7900 XT for $720 when they were all going for $900-1200 on Amazon and Best Buy.

>>712421526
>Show your Cyberpunk Overdrive benchmark results

Here's the benchmark results with everything maxxed except for Path Tracing (which only works on a handful of Nvidia cards and even they need frame generation to be playable) and with a -10% power cap.

Which game wasn't playable on AMD, again?

>>712383604
9070 XT here. Couldn't be happier.

>>712388856
Chinese literally has higher IQ than whites. They're only second compared to jews.

>>712383090 (OP)
>we'll soon have Nvidia cpu market domination too
All hail ngreedia!

I can't wait for Intel to gain a noticeable market share so that Nvidia shills are forced to fight on two fronts

>>712429720
Intel is coming for AMDs market share, not NVIDIAs

>>712429720
Its more likely that intel kills their discrete graphics division, and they only feature new arch as an IGP
They're still a dwindling company in the middle of major restructuring.

>>712429775
Lol. Lmao.

>>712383090 (OP)
Games keep having Nvidia exclusive features, why would I spend $1000 for a card with the same performance which can't enable the special shiny features?

They've been doing this shit since PhysX and its effective.

>>712383604
This

>>712383090 (OP)
>stick staunchly to "NVIDIA -$50" despite the entire world screaming at you to actually compete like you're vaguely aware of what your situation and competition are
>continue losing
WOW WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING?????????????????????????

>>712430206
AyyMD just doesn't have competition guts
they're perfectly content getting Nvidia pocket change

>>712383090 (OP)
there's just no good alternative to nvidia all things considered, especially price to performance ratio, ayyMD is offering considerably less for negligible price difference

>>712430105
>physx
that might be different in the dim distant future when zluda matures and gets bundled with graphics drivers. i'm not sure if dlss could be reverse engineered in the same manner, although given enough time anything is reversible. see: wine

>>712430557
>for negligible price difference
whatever you save in price difference you pay in extra wattage used because AyyMD GPUs aren't power efficient

>>712430621
PhysX is already deprecated, most game engines use Havok or an open source GPU accelerated physics library. Zluda has nothing to do with this topic and it never will. DLSS as well doesn't ever have to be reverse engineered when free to use FRS is equally supported by nearly every title. Its an extreme rarity for a game to only offer DLSS instead of DLSS/FSR/intel's alternative

>>712398473
true. also nvidia is on a whole different level when it comes to manufacturing hardware in general. they're way waaaay ahead of anyone else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsiccpVKUIs

>>712383604
same
where my B580 bros at

>>712430768
FSR is offered but its image quality and performance gain are pitiful compared to DLSS

>>712383090 (OP)
AMD lost

>>712430847
do you think he actually narrated it or just used AI voice?

>>712388382
>selling out
>only made 100 of them
Meanwhile Nvidia actually publishes the number they sold and shit looks grim for AMD.

>>712430404
Feels like AMD’s GPUs are just there to keep Nvidia from becoming a full-blown monopoly.

Nvidia stock must be going down again

>>712383090 (OP)
AMD hates losing money. Since TSMC is at capacity, each Radeon GPU they make loses them money when they could be making more money with CPUs instead.
I wouldn't be surprised if AMD wants Radeon GPUs to fail and just focus on Integrated graphics (APUs).

It's kinda funny nvidia has paid shills as seen ITT yet those same shills try and claim amd has shills lol

>>712409192
To this day I have a near 40% "quit out" ratio on Battlefield 4 because my 7970 and its 2 RMA replacements would black screen and crash the game after 10 minutes of playing. After the second RMA continued to do it I got my money back, bought a 780 and immediately never experienced it ever again. Don't care what AMD shills say, don't care how long it's been, never again.

>>712389218
Too obvious using the one shit game that amd has an advantage on.

>>712387843
>5070tis regularly go for 1089 leafbucks

>>712432868
Had a similar issue with the 6650XT. I built a new computer to play Silent Hill 2, and once I actually started playing, it would crash to a green screen after like 15 minutes. RMA'd it, sold that replacement, and bought myself a 4070.

>>712431061
it's him.

>>712432868
right lets see your battlefieldtracker
>>712433109
so you bought a $200 graphics card and then bought a $700 graphics card immediately after? sounds like a completely reasonable activity that a real person would definitely commit

>>712433502
Not reinstalling Origin to blow out an AMD shill

>>712433502
Look at how defensive the corporate shill is, he takes criticism of AMD as a personal attack on him. Sad thing to see, euthanasia needs to be normalized for this

>>712433636
It's called EA App now chud
>>712433729
Funny comment I burst out laughing

>>712433831
>Don't dead name our software
Hooooooly shill

>>712433870
I don't like EA they blocked me from playing on linux

>>712432673
What a retard you are.
>TSMC at capacity
Different nodes, different lines, different facilities for different customers. AMD has their entire upcoming product stack on variants of N3 and N2.

>>712383090 (OP)
AMD did a great job developing a shit reputation. Once they stopped being complete dogshit, it was too late. Reputation was in the public consciousness.
Nvidia did a great job developing a reputation for not being complete dogshit. Of course, now they are complete dogshit, but their reputation is still carrying water for them.
It should be an object lesson about how important your early impressions are. If you fuck yourself right out the gate, winning trust after that is damn hard.

Make better cards, AMD. They need to compete at high end again lest we get interlaced, upscaled fake frames as standard.

>>712383625
>so game devs spend less time getting their games to work well on AMD, so more games run worse on AMD, so even less people buy AMD,
This is nonsense. Most games are actually tuned to AMD hardware more, because most games are meant primarily for consoles and consoles are exclusively AMD hardware. If anything it's the opposite of what you're saying.

>>712432673
>I wouldn't be surprised if AMD wants Radeon GPUs to fail and just focus on Integrated graphics (APUs).
they absolutely should imo because this is their competitive advantage over nvidia (if people had option to get ps5 tier performance in a laptop for around $500 there'd be a lot less nvidia GPUs sold) but they also make tons of money from ps5 deal with sony so PC gaming segment is not something they'll be willing to push hard anymore not to cannibalize their console business, they would rather prefer for you to buy ps5 than a gaming laptop with their APU.

>>712383090 (OP)
My 6700xt has been doing weird shit in the past month, every time I alt tab is slows down my entire pc. No I am not buying Nvidia because the last time I did my 980 started smoking

>>712383090 (OP)
AMD is just the shit any many people's mind. AMD has no one but themselves to blame

>>712430768
DLSS might as well be an entirely different category, FSR just can't compete, the difference is night and day.

>>712433870
>>Don't dead name our software
erm, aktshually they're different softwares
i wish it was just a reskinned origin but origin was a whole lot better

>>712383090 (OP)
not gonna lie this always scares me as an AMD owner. devs quite literally have no incentives or need to optimize for AMD at all.

>>712434461
You're running out of RAM

>>712388143
Really is a treat going back to old games with new hardware and getting both better gameplay and the best visuals available.

>>712421447
It's running native

>>712383090 (OP)
If I could actually find a 9070XT for the MSRP $599 I'd buy one, but I can only find them for $800~900 and 5070TI is the same price and the 5070TI lets me have DLSS.

>>712434461
I didn't think of this, possibly. Card has 16gb and pc has 32gb, maybe some have turned bad recently I will investigate thanks anon

>>712435012
For
>>712434734

>>712383090 (OP)
>What the FUCK?
Not surprising at all.

Nvidia has a massive R&D budget and they essentially dictate where game tech goes. For the past 20-25 years they've been repeating the cycle of "introduce new gimmick -> gimmick is exclusive and hard to run -> gamer outrage -> over time the gimmick is gradually adopted everywhere, copied, reverse engineered -> gamers get used to it and forget the growing pains phase -> most forget it was initially an Nvidia gimmick." They have the luxury of doing this because they've got the budget, engineers and market dominance to predict and tailor the way graphics develop. And the R&D budget of their competitors is comparately tiny, so it's easy for Nvidia to stay ahead of the curve and have more features as long as they keep their pace up.

The last sentence is why AMD fell behind hard in the late 2010s and early 2020s. Nvidia figured out what they want to do, 1) raytracing, 2) an alternative rendering technique that leverages ML and special hardware to have better quality and/or performance. So RTX and DLSS. This had a rough start but over time became a genuine selling point, because the competition's attempts to follow suit were half-assed and clumsy. AMD's sales in 2019-onwards died mostly because of DLSS, and because people realized FSR's promise of being a worthy competitor was a total lie.

Also people subconsciously associate cheaper products with faultier products, so AMD GPUs are more often derided for having bugs and issues. Even though in the last 5 years AMD and Nvidia GPUs have had roughly the same amount of GPU bugs and driver issues, most of which are actually the fault of Windows.

>>712434720
AMD has the console market cornered so it doesn't matter. That and 90% of those 92 are fucking poor retards who own a pile of worthless dogshit like a 4060 or even worse so its not like a stronger AMD can't brute force that.

>>712435268
I just read the article and apparently it's because of poorfags scrambling for entry level AI shit

>>712383604
7900 xtx chads rise up

>>712383090 (OP)
Few years back I wanted to upgrade after an extremely long period of not playing videogames. Asked what's the best bang for buck? How important is gaytracing? Upscaling? FG? Etc. I was basically told "just get AMD they're cheaper, gaytracing is a meme and will die out, upscalers are all ass and raw native is all that matters but FSR is just as good as DLSS anyway."

I listened, got a 1440p180hz monitor and went for an RX6700XT, intending to use FSR to drive higher framerates. Turns out I hate it. Constant visual issues. I'd really rather just lower the display resolution to 1080p. And I constantly felt like I was making compromises.

Got my hands on a friend's RTX4070 by chance, tried it. Turns out upscalers weren't all ass, it was just FSR. DLSS delivered what I actually wanted from FSR. Turns out gaytracing won't die out at all and it can be used at playable framerates, just not with AMD cards. Turns out framegen has its use cases too. Worst part was when I tried to talk about this, I'd just get accused of spreading FUD or being an Nvidia shill. So I gave my 6700XT to my younger brother, got myself an RTX4080 and never looked back, it just werks.

So I don't really hate AMD GPUs. I just hate the people who lied about AMD downsides to me because they were too busy peddling an agenda for le underdog to tell me the truth, and I understand how people got chased away from AMD.

Ultimately gaming is a luxury hobby, and for luxury hobbies you're better off buying the upper shelf product that gives you features and longevity. Buying something for "VALUE" is nice at first because your wallet isn't hit as hard, but it's later down the road that you regret going for the underdog option once you realize you're in for years of compromises you'd rather avoid. If I was looking for a GPU now I'd actually get the AMD RX9070XT because it's got the features and longevity, but a lot of AMD cards from before came with a lot of compromises and I got burned by them.

>>712435351
I need my heckin CoPilot+

AMD could have specialized in console comparable performance at a low budget but noooooo

>>712385061
When there's only one good brand in a product category yeah you kinda have to be

>>712435402
why do pro nvidia posts never read like they're written by real people and I say this as an owner of a 5080

>>712434301
What an under-cooked assessment. The console hardware is literally available as a SoC solution on PC. There's been videos about their performance as a PC platform for years and it always underperforms compared to PC. Developers are clearly not building their games with AMD chips in mind.

I only use Nvidia for my Switch 2.

>>712435523
It's a copypaste of what I wrote in a thread like two weeks ago but it was a dead thread. You can choose not to believe it, but if you've browed this board in the last few years you'd know I'm right with the 'advice' people gave.

>>712435594
The gpu is disables and the pcie slot is x4 2.0
not hard to see why it would underperform

>>712383090 (OP)
They should've made 9060xt for 200 bucks. Fucking imagine.

>>712435732
So you spent over 1000 dollars for the sole intention to play games with upscaled resolution and your post reads like a marketing spiel for no reason, alright I believe you i guess you're just an idiot and not a shill. The amount of times I intentionally vaseline smeared my games with DLSS is about 0, if I'm spending over a grand on a product I don't want it to look like jagged shit, and no DLSS doesn't magically give you a free lunch youre just blind.

>>712383869
Same lol
>muh amd
>needs linux to do anything AI related

>>712424623
>young buck
So you got broken now huh?

Nvidia is still a broken piece of shit on Windows & Linux. 5070ti/5080/5090 all dont work and people who say "works on my machine" are fucking stupid fucks

>>712435396
I wish I bought that instead of a 9070

AMD always seems to screw up in some way, I stopped believing they're even trying to compete with nvidia. Had the 9070s been available at MSRP like they claimed a lot more people would have bought them but I haven't been able to find one under 800 since launch.

>>712422359
*When it isn't randomly blackscreening or melting the 12vhpwr connector

>>712437448
Start of chain vendors cannot control how OEMs set prices based on perceived market demand

my 9070XT was $699 at newegg but I think I wanna return because I want to make AI slop and doing that with an AMD card involves downloading linux...fuck that

>>712437594
Well there is the supply part of this equation which AMD lied about and claimed there would be ample supply for everyone that wanted one, considering their lackluster marketshare still I sincerely doubt there was ample supply.

>>712437747
You can run SD, Midjourney, any video model, any LLM on recent AMD GPUs

>>712437806
low IQ post

>>712383604
Same. I have been since I started building my own PCs.

>>712437898
what about Comfyai? that's what everyone makes their pron images in

>>712437898
>low iq post
Don't be coy faggot, this has had artificially low supply since launch, an example of adequate supply is something like a switch 2 where any tendie and their dog could find one at msrp if they wanted one

>>712438040
Not a coomer so I haven't used it. All you have to do is look around github. There are ample tutorials and builds of every public model that can make a RDNA3 or RDNA4 GPU run things on par with high tier Nvidia GPUs. Ask in the /g/ local diffusion thread if you're super lazy.

My 2nd 9070XT finally showed up and isn't randomly causing my entire computer to suddenly shut down during intensive gaming/genning. What the fuck was the issue with the first card that would make that happen? Kinda worried about the longevity of this thing because of that previous bullshit. I know AMD CAN be good because my HD5700 is still hanging on in a spare pc.

>>712435396
my negro
>>712437367
don't know much but they seem like decent cards on paper, if I had to buy a GPU now only reason I wouldn't buy one is 16GB feels iffy for 4k, wish they'd do more 20GB cards

Why are winjeets so adverse to using Linux, if you want to keep your spyware ladened OS you can just dual box

>>712438305
The 9070 is supposed to be a midrange gpu for 1440p which reflects in its msrp, unfortunately due to how fucked everything is it's only available at what should be high end

>>712438273
The die itself passed QA so it had to be a surface mount item like a capacitor, resistor, etc. This can happen to any electronic device. Its always a bit of a gamble, even for an alarm clock.

its the fault of goyim, you see them all the time screaming that AMD should have sold their cards for x bajillion % less, but the fact is they would never buy AMD, they just want AMD to go bankrupt so they can get their nvidia goyslop a bit cheaper

>>712383090 (OP)
they've had a monopoly since the 1xxx series

>>712438273
Memory on 9070XTs runs quite high in an ideal situation. Perhaps poor thermal pad contact?

>>712383090 (OP)
Its because of AI not gaming BTW.

>>712438667
Memory temps are specific to the given OEM board design and its cooler, they're not universal

>>712434901
Yeah, undemanding games like Hitman.
Once you need upscaling, FSR will be blurrier than DLSS and I think your card doesn’t even support the new FSR 4.

>>712383861
Workstations are considered PC

People have been seething about Nvidia since hairworks 10 years ago.

>>712438843
I don't play shit games that need upscaling or fake frames to be playable.

Aquire taste.

>>712383090 (OP)
AMD deserves it for their stupid pricing. They won't gain any market share with the $50 cheaper bullshit. Either do Intel Arc prices or fight a losing battle.

>>712438843
DLSS still looks like garbage and should only be reserved for cases where the game is unplayable without it, so basically for weaker hardware.

I been using AMD for years and today it's so much better. Like modern AMD GPU just works. Yeah Ray Tracing isn't as good and doesn't have DSLL or 4x Frame Gen but FSR is getting pretty good and why the fuck do you want to play with fake frames?

>>712439284
Which gives you more longevity for the card, this way, you can still stretch the use of a card like the 3060 Ti for 1440p gaming with DLSS.
If you never use any upscaling, then sure, you can go with AMD, and I probably would too.

>>712438594
No one is saving $50 just to deal with AMD's bullshit. It's an inferior product and should be priced as such. They have no excuses now, specially since Nvidia is artificially inflating their MSRPs and basically selling xx50 cards as xx60 but at what used to be xx70 price points (yes, even corrected for inflation).
They just want to follow the market while not having a comparable product, and the result is the 8% you see.

>>712439737
except DLSS doesn't get driver side upgrades for old cards so you're likely going to be stuck on FSR just like AMD

I bought a 5070 TI monday, please tell me I didn't waste my money (I want to play most games on 4k with reasonably high quality without dropping below 60 fps

Yea I'm just gonna return my steel legend 9070XT and buy an MSI 5070TI when they are back in stock, saving 100$ over the random AMD fuckery just isn't worth it.

I'm thinking of taking the hit and selling my R7 260X for a loss and getting the latest NVidia GeForce RTX 5060 6GB AI Enhanced Graphics Card with DLSS and Multi Frame Gen

>>712433502
>$700
No dummy, I sold a $280 gpu and bought a 4070 at a local Walmart for $500.

which holds their value better because I WILL be reselling this when I'm done fucking gaping it out with games and AI gens

>>712383090 (OP)
>92