Lies of P (Filtered edition)

You beat the game BEFORE the incoming patch, right???

>>712407106 (OP)
i don't play garbage ''games''

>LITERAL homewrecker
>Giant bitch on stream
>Became the face of LoP regardless

How?

>>712407524
Tell me about the games you play anon. Easier i suppose

i guess

>incoming patch
Please dont tell me they are nerfing the dlc...

Look I'm just gonna say it and get it out of the way.

Lies of penis

>>712407716

>>712407106 (OP)
I'm already at the final boss, I just need to beat it before any patch drops

>>712407106 (OP)
>incoming patch
QRD?

>>712409102
>>712409578
They are nerfing the DLC.

I used easy mode.
I used summons.
I used items.
I had fun with the game and it's story.

>>712409642
FUCK
okay I better get a move on and beat it
I wanted to just beat the basegame and start a NG+ cycle now that I got the cool weapons from the dlc but now I have pressure to actually beat it in time

the game is not even hard
two perfect guard grind stone and you deplete like 50% hp of the final boss

>>712409971
cant you just block updates

>>712407106 (OP)
ofc :)

>>712407716
How do you know she's a homewrecker, but also:
>e-celebs

>Misery Porn, the DLC
I fucking hate gooks.
The mansion segment is kino tho

>>712411619
It's not really. He can travel back to the past, but he can't majorly change it, that would cause a time paradox. That's why he got poofed away at the end, because if he was there any longer everything would go off the rails. Like yeah Lea and Romeo still died, but now she dies knowing that P will go on to fight in her stead and makes things right, which he does do.

>>712411619
Literally nothing is miserable about it?
>puppet from the future helps out some kind old friends
>vanishes from magic
>father swings by and reintroduces his son to his old friends
Seems wholesome to me

Lovey dovey puppet sex with sophia

>>712412519
Her sister is hotter

Why is Lea so skilled? She's a woman.

>>712412791
Would her sister snuggle you to sleep?
Thats what I thought

I'm tired of avoiding 10-hit combo strings from enemies. Why does it have to be like this? Can't we back to the Demon's/Dark Souls day?

>>712411782
>P will go on to fight in her stead and makes things right, which he does do
Unless you picked the Gepetto ending

>>712412983
People got gud at souls games and pogfaced at wanting souls games to be harder and more challenging, so devs made them harder.

>>712407106 (OP)
>You beat the game BEFORE the incoming patch, right???
I just started playing...

>>712412983
Huh?
Most bosses do like... 4 hits
I guess the 2 faced dickhead in frenzy mode does like 7 or something

havent been able to get any of the badges for the dlc bosses, got all the base game tho.. theyre t-too strong

>>712413354
Nice
Does upping the difficulty make them more aggressive or give them more moves, or is it purely damage buffs?

The DLC was fine on NG+0, but on NG+1 everything one- or two-shots me.
Just the fucking kangaroo and the chimera-elephant were blocking me for an hour. Scaling does seem a tad unbalanced.

>>712410280
You kinda can? Just pirate it and put your save on it

TOTAL GEPPETTO DEATH
FUCKING NIGGER OLD MAN IM GONNA TIE YOU TO ARLECHINNO AND MAKE HIM BUTTFUCK YOU TO DEATH

>>712413630
What exactly is your VIG and armor parts?
I swear I see this being said a lot but havent really felt it yet (playing again on NG+ after an NG0 run)
It helps that NG+ in this game loads you up with a lot of souls, so you can more than double your level from the end of NG0 to tbe end of NG+1

>>712412983
bro your parries?

>>712413560
honestly imo its just damage buffs, they seem equally as agressive on the easiest settings but they do so little damage to you

Yes Alidoro, it totally is a replica sword...

>>712413805
I'm sitting on 50 VIG and 40 Capacity with the best armor parts. A kangaroo hits me for 65% of my health.

>>712414087
Do you have the amulet for extra physical negation?
I'm currently at roughly 54% physical damage nullified, which makes me feel like I'm at the "intended" damage level

>>712407106 (OP)
Yeah. Its balancing is really weird because for new players, it's best to beat Overture right before traveling to the alchemists' isle if they care about the story, so the visions at the beginning, Arlecchino's mangled body, and the final choice are more impactful. But it would be such a huge jump in difficulty at levels 60-70 with little to no ways to counter enormous amounts of damage because the new defensive parts are only slightly better than their base game counterparts and enemies, especially bosses, drop very little ergo to level up without farming.

Handholding with Rosaria!

>>712415479
Dumbass

>>712412983
I love Lies of P for the combat but I wish people would make games like Dark Souls 1 again as it gives me a very unique feeling and it's the reason I like to play metroidvanias. I've heard Lord of the Fallen is more like Dark Souls 1 than other games so I'm going to purchase it when on sale. Regarding why we can't go back, what do you expect the devs/publishers to do when the sales figures for the games looked like this before Sekiro was released.

>>712416196
honestly lords of the fallen is.. serviceable, its a very cheap knock off, i have 200 hours in lords of the fallen, and about 150 in lies of p, and lies of p is way better despite having less content than lords.

>DLC actually adds small changes to the main game, nothing major but still makes it feel that the game is connected to the DLC
Absolutely based

i'm going through the base game right now, just killed the king of puppets
can i get a suggestion for a str weapon combo with good range and fast startup?
even one where i can slap a motivity crack on it.

right now i'm using the police baton + bonesaw, which has great range but it still takes a while to swing, and the big ass wrench

so I reached the point that I fight a lady who undress when she goes phase 2 when should I enter the dlc after beating the final boss?

>>712412812
She put her soul into her blade. That's why a simple blade becomes a murder tool in hands of P too, since the blade resonates with him.

>>712416857
Perfect time.
I consider her the start of the end game, so starting the dlc before her is a good idea.

>>712413354
They should add all the sub bosses too
I remember having a lot of trouble with the retarded clown in the fiery area in base game

>>712417247
It's weird how things like the croc aren't on the list

>>712417172
This sounds like a trap

>Rose Sword charges entire chunks of fable bar with every charged R2, allowing you to spam fable arts with impunity

>>712417359
The croc is harder than anything in base game
Yes including true final boss

>>712407716
>>LITERAL homewrecker
How so?

I...I love it.

>>712412983
>Can we go back to slow-ass games with no boss tracking and very limited movesets
Can we not, nigga? Next game from these fucks should copy Nioh instead.

>>712417954
so I should beat the main game before I enter it?

Story spoiler for DLC
Not hating but what was the point of (probably) Sophia sending us back in time for the DLC?
Not like we accomplished anything by the end

>>712418323
The anon is exaggerating about the croc, the elephant chimera however....
But that said you should get to the final fight of the base game and then go to the DLC
The first zone of the DLC is higher level than the final one on the base game (imo)
Level 75-80 seems a good starting point for the dlc on NG

>>712418670
It wasn't Sophia, it was someone else's power of the white butterfly. Possibly a hint towards their next game.

anybody has the webm of the director talking about the upcoming patch?

>>712407106 (OP)
Base game yes.
>pic related
I still haven't buyeded a DLC.

Not browsing this thread to avoid spoilers. I haven't had too much time to play and only gotten past the big gator so far. What are they changing?

I'm not even sure what's going on with the story at this point but the ending made me emotional.

>>712418675
Don't listen to this anon, I went in at level 95 and got my ass RAPED by the croc

>that's a nice happy ending you got for the DLC, P
>lemme just ruin everything real quick

>>712418323
>>712419025 (me)

>>712419016
All you need to know is that a guy called Mad Donkey is the only sane character in the game.

The irony.

>>712418984
they blanketnerfed the entire game back on release (enemies/bosses are slower, have less hp, buffed player weapons, gave you upgrades earlier, etc.) so you can expect the same for the dlc

>>712418806
no webm but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BY3Zw_nOCI

>>712419106
>All you need to know is that a guy called Mad Donkey is the only sane character in the game.
why

>>712419106
He was our hero but we were too stupid to realize it.
Literal tinfoil hat tier schizo who was right about everything.

>>712419330
Oh so there's no plans? Although I didn't know they did that. That's pretty crazy

So how many years have passed between the DLC and the main game?

>>712419549
Probably more like months. There's still people alive in their houses in the base game that we can talk to through their windows. Can't imagine they would survive years in there

>>712419647
The kitty in a hub grew up. So maybe a year or two. Puppet Frenzy did not start at least.

Just beat the hammer chick with the bow, this weapon is great. When she did that flamethrower move I just sat back and charged up the giga arrow fable art.

>>712419773
This is probably the best bow weapon i've seen in arpgs, and it doesn't need any sort of melee gimmick to function properly, like simon's bowblade.
Even though the fable generation per shot is fairly limited, you can still quickly amass fable for the giganigga shot because of how fast you can shoot too.

>>712416196
yeah don't expect LotF to be a masterpiece but it's definitely the soulslike that tries the most to capture the spirit of the old souls games rather than being action-focused like most of its competitors

>>712419898
I also beat the croc with it and it's still at upgrade level 3. It's amazing for exploring levels and just thinning out crowds from a distance. It's low damage per shot but the dodge heavy play style is just fun and I like constantly getting arrows off. I also like the perfect release timing on the charged heavy, that type of thing always makes ranged weapons fun for me.

>>712419773
>>712419898
>a functioning bow weapon in an ARPG
fuck, i gotta get to the DLC pronto

>>712416196
play ai limit

lies of piss poop extra greasy korean dump edition

>>712420331
You also get it almost immediately after starting the dlc.

I can't be fucked playing to Chapter 9 again to play the DLC

>>712420565
nexusmods
get any of the many dlc ready saves
play

>>712420607
jokes on you anon I was too fucking retarded to think of that and now I'll go do that

>How to make a 10/10 game:
>Step 1: Put a fucking gunblade in the game
That's it, that's all there is to it.

Any cool advance weapons in the dlc?

>>712420961
Flamethrower lance and Laxasia sword.

I used the umbrella through the whole game

>>712420961
no boss weapons but you get a literal flamethrower and proto laxasia sword (much smaller) with really cool abilities

>>712417954
I kept bashing my head against the crocodile because I was clearly underleveled (63) before switching to the newly acquired bow and using fire grindstones, which made the fight almost as trivial as Manus.
>>712419393
He claims Geppetto responsible for the puppet frenzy and able to stop it. He also either sees through Sophia's shenanigans, frustratingly telling you to stop coming back, or has been infected since one of the symptoms is déjà vu. The latter is more likely because he says that even before you die to him.

So how does the dlc compare to the base game? (fun-wise)

Is the dlc worth the price? Seems a bit steep for some dlc so I'd hope it's at least 10 hours or so at that price.

>>712421225
Dlc weapons are all unique and fun.
Even the weapons that can be disassembled have something unique about their head/handle.

>>712419549
Unknown, but it's clearly been years since that's what one of the loading screen says. If there's info on how often the grand exhibition is held, you can use this as approximation because the one in the base game was supposed to happen during the DLC but was cancelled.

>>712421231
yeah it's somewhere between 10-15 hours

Difficulty 2 on the Boss Rematch is normal Legendary Stalker right? Diff 3 feels like NG+, the bosses do so much stamina damage. I beat base Legendary Stalker final boss in the DLC, did difficulty 2 and it felt similar but I struggle on phase 1 just purely from stamina issues.

>>712421383
nice, and the levels and the bosses?

>>712420682
check what level the save is, right now there are NG available saves but on release before people posted those the only saves available were NG++ for achievement purposes so a lot of anons like myself played the DLC on NG++

>>712418670
To save Rosauru mainly and also to make sure that Geppetto can reach Romeo in time.

>>712421679
NTA, the levels are pretty simplistic, even the more interesting ones (like act 2 factory) are fairly easy to navigate and fully explore BUT are a step above just being a long ass corridor like they were on the base game (factory and mall excluded). Thats not a terrible thing as it allows you to fully comb them with just a bit of backtracking which i appreciated.
Bosses were just ok imo except for the last one which i really enjoyed, being pretty similar to Laxasia. The rest were ok, perfectly fine. Also the humanoid minibosses were more challenging than in the base game

>>712421679
Levels are pretty linear, if there are side paths, it's only 1~3 rooms long.
As for bosses, they are pretty eh in general. Only the puppeteer boss was mechanically interesting. The rest are just aggressive attack spammers.

Why is this bitch so disgustingly tanky?

Can you set the game to easy difficulty and then back to normal again? I'm only on NG chapter 4 in an old save and I'd rather just rush through it so I can get to the dlc

>>712421679
>levels
A mixed bag. Every level looks and feels unique, but enemy placement is all over the place. The first levels are full of beef walls that hit hard as fuck, but later on, you fight one or two regular carcasses or slightly different puppets at a time. Some of the new enemies feel a bit underused, like voluptuous female puppets that shove their feet in your face.
>bosses
All mop the floor with what you fight in the base game. Some have arguably bullshit moments like the final boss, the second-to-last boss, and the first one (but only because of the camera), but their mechanics and designs feel quite refreshing.

>>712423017
ye

>>712422413
>>712422876
>>712423038
sounds pretty good overall although I maybe expected a bit more considering how long this took to make, but I'll definitely play it as soon as I finish Khazan
sounds

dorothy game is going to be popular since all the trannies are going to buy it, i can't believe so many people don't want to play as carlo

>>712423578
Dorothy is a child

>>712422915
Setting your language to Korean activates hard mode

Currently doing my first ever NG+ run, going full advance build
I hear the DLC in NG+ is ridiculous so I'll just use the middle difficulty once I do that

>claw
>gunblade
>monad
>bow
>flamethrower
>lightning sword
>acid stick
>pinwheel
>ass dildo
What am I missing

nani??

>>712423770
baseball bat in lab

>>712407106 (OP)
No I just got the pirated copy instead because I'm tired of Souls devs nerfing their game because of retarded normalniggers

>>712423718
It's really not that bad. I beat the dlc in ng++ fine and I suck

>>712423803
That's the dildo forgot the name

>>712423813
I really should have done NG++ beforehand, now I'm stuck in some halfway limbo where I don't have the very best Peepee Organ upgrades but the enemies are scaled up

What's the objectively best and most fun weapon?

>>712423770
The rocket javelin from the Zoo

>>712423965
Pinwheel handle + Arche blade

>>712423965
gunblade

I'm not crying it's just raining...

>>712424026
Oh I have that but I forgot about it
Guess I didn't miss anything
Thanks

>>712423152
It's like half the base game in terms of content and length, so I wouldn't say it took too long to make. If anything, it feels a bit rushed thanks to being shadowdropped and various bits of its story and gameplay, hints at other outcomes, which simply don't exist, as well as how some of the base game characters having no new dialogue after beating the DLC.
>>712423965
The giant saw blade and the kukri handle.

>>712407106 (OP)
Yup. Just finished it with my trusty gun blade. It was fantastic.
Though I want to respec into a Lax build now.

>>712417954
Literally beat it just now with the fire arm.
This boss was fucking bullshit.

>>712424308
Does the DLC have any elemental weapons?
I guess I can always easily respec

>>712424391
it has a flamethrower and a lighting sword from the top of my head

>>712424223
>It's like half the base game in terms of content and length
damn, it seems like there's a growing trend for massive DLCs

>>712424483
its not half the base game
its like 12 hours

wait does the P stand for pinocchio

>>712424515
The base game took me 23 hours

>>712424391
>>712424463
Acid head fable art heavily scales with advance

>>712424525
gasp

Are you a parrynigger, a dodgenigger, or a blocknigger?
For me personally, I pretty much block all attacks and then get my health back with a charged attack with a giant blade and smol handle

>>712422915
She's a big girl.

flamethrower is shit, what a meme
advfags lose again

>>712424910
Why is advance even a stat that exists?
>dude I can use acid weapons on the enemies weak to it!
Yeah so can I, that's what the acid grindstone is for

>>712407106 (OP)
No, and I am mad. Same thing happened at launch. I was playing the moment it unlocked but because I wasn't poopsocking this shit for 8-10 hours every day they nerfed the final boss before I even got to it. Fuck this shit

>>712424910
Try it with a lighter head, the flame ticks faster

>>712424852
Why does she look so much like Lea? I thought they were the same character when Lea's face was revealed.

>>712422915
You have the wrong amulet equipped. She's a human not a robot. Switching to Murderer Puppet's Amulet will give 15% bonus damage.
In stage 1 she takes half damage from physical, because of her armour.
She is 15% weak to Acid in both stages, because she is human.
I used Acidic Crystal Spear blade on the Pistol Rock Drill Handle.

If you break her sword stage 1 ends regardless of how much health she has left.

NO WAY
They stripped her naked?

Is this game even difficult as it is?

>>712407106 (OP)
I havent yet but if it counts I beat both Radahn versions before they were nerfed, I mean patched. No mimic tear or magic, just unga. Can I do a twink bunga build on this? what am I getting into here?

>>712407106 (OP)
Should I get this or sekiro? The only two popular souls like I have yet to play. I value level design and exploration a lot

>>712425187
>I value level design and exploration a lot
Probably Sekiro.

>>712425187
ai limit

>>712425187
Sekiro's combat is literally perfect

>>712425274
clang clang clang clang

>>712425314
Fuck yeah, I love it

>>712425187
I'd play Sekiro first only because its parry window is 3x as wide.
If you play Lies of P first, Sekiro would be braindead easy afterwards.

>>712424852
Laxasia prequel when

i played most the game without using altered weapons, i might be the only person who doesnt like this gimmick because of how messy it makes the inventory of the leftover handles and heads i cant stand it. did like 3 pt just using mostly the coil mjolnir, played around with others and experimenting with weapon combinations but just never really liked anything, aside from maybe the dancers handle and sawblade head

>>712425829
I'm fine with the system cause it lets me put a heavy damage blade on a fast handle but it does it make it hard to decide what to use

Why the hell would you let her die?

>>712416624
Bone saw blade with dancer blade handle. Use a crank on it.

>>712425187
Always play Sekiro before Lies of P, regardless of what you value.

>>712425274
Too defensive. I appreciate Lies of P and Khazan for more dynamic fights.

>>712425136
In Elden Ring the player character can become freakishly OP with the right build. You cannot do that in LoP.
But you can make a strength build that wields big weapons. LoP calls strength "motivity".

>>712426191
because she wants to
you bricked your save if you keep her alive

>>712426191
>end her cursed existence
>put her ergo into a hot puppet body to fuck
win win

>>712426191
what happens if you let her live? may have done that one pt but I forgot now

>two phase boss for first fight
Bad game design.

>>712426249
I'd say guarding + attacking with a big blade is plenty OP
It got to the point where the riposte attacks on a staggered enemy would do less damage than just doing a charged heavy lel
I also never realized door guardian had a gimmick cause I was only using charged heavies anyway

>>712426361
At least that one only has one healthbar. It gets much, much worse
Is there even a single boss that just has one phase in this game? The Stalker fights I guess, if you count those

>>712416624
Pick the longest handle you like the moveset of, then put the lightest matching blade (slash/stab), congratulations you have ultra fast windup

>>712426451
lots of some bosses have one health bar but change move sets midway through, do people count that as a one phase boss fight because of the one healthbar while other bosses get another healthbar once you kill them one time

>>712426617
If a puppet rips its own head off to use as a club, that's a new phase regardless of whether the health bar changes

>>712426361
>>712426675
Why is that bad game design?
A boss is meant to be more complicated than a regular enemy. And it's not like they go crazy with it, it is the first boss after all. Both phases share many moves.

>>712426337
you lock yourself out of the good ending

>>712426778
It's bad game design if it happens on every single boss, and most of the time with a cutscene and new healthbar too
Second phase is supposed to be a surprise, not a default

>>712426249
Hmm, sounds interesting. I usually go for big stupid blunt weapon builds but I might just try something else here, maybe a sword and board. I'm just getting done with Nioh 1 base game, so will probably put it down before getting into the DLC and give LoP a try, thanks anon.

>>712424525
>>712424579
I think it stands for Paracelsus given the ending though.

>>712426796
The bad ending is kinoer anyway

Ill get it after the patch and tell everyone I beat it before. literally nobody can stop me

>>712427423
steam achievements have a time and date
i WILL stalk you

>>712426882
Cutscene and second healthbar is a separate issue, not relevant to the Parade Master. Although I do think Lies of P over-uses that trick. It's bad because of its over-use, not because of its use.

A second phase within the same health bar is good design in many ways. It introduces the player to the boss's moveset over time, as they get better at the fight. Making the fight less overwhelming. It's also a good way to ramp up the intensity over time, so that the end of the fight is a proper climax.

>>712427508
>Making the fight less overwhelming
So you like it cause you're a casual. Figures

>>712427943
games should be fun

>>712425054
The cool thing about 3d models is that you can recycle them to save money during development.

What the flying fuck is going on yall

>>712424525
It stands for penis. When you lie, you get deviously excited, penis gets bigger.

>>712412983

>>712412983
bro, your perfect guard grindstone?

>>712428167
I fucking loved this reference. It's stupid but kino anyway

I've still never used the shield arm or the guard grindstone. I've used everything else to kill bosses except those.

>>712428167
This is Neon Genesis Evangelion.
The Alchemists are Seele.
Geppetto is Gendo.

>>712428645
Post your sharp pipe only boss video

>>712428701
I prefer stunlocking them with the cluster grenade when they're in the corner of the room

>>712428167
So where did the arm actually come from? Did they unearth it from the Relic of Trismegistus, or did Paracelsus give it to them?

>HIM showing up near the end
jesus, thought he was awful enough in the base game

>>712429130
It would be funny if the sequel made the bad ending canon.

>Simon is a jobber AND a simp
lmao

>>712428645
I never used legion arms in my base game playthrough because they felt like a complete meme not worth complicating your build over. Are some of them actually strong?

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
I didn't give a shit about the entire rest of the misery but fuck this.

>>712429372
>DLC doubles down on this
>Mad that Sophia wanted the big C (now big P)
Toppest of keks.

>>712429403
The hook arm is great because you can launch yourself in the air and dodge boss attacks. And grab enemies to interrupt and stun them. The Legion arms basically extend your combo to help deal more damage and inflict stagger sooner.

Theres also a legion arm passive regenerate and restore after you kill an enemy P-Organ perk, so completing areas and defeating bosses becomes faster and easier.

>>712429372
QRD?

I started it yesterday and it's really refreshing to have a souls game that's not up it's ass with a shitty 5% finished story told entirely through vague item descriptions.

>>712429403
The Legion arms are useful nonetheless without builds. It's an extra attack.

>>712429984
playing lies of p just makes it really obvious as to how shitty Fromsoft are as a developer.

>>712430118
If it's one thing I hate about this game it's the red attacks. Like why even have a dodge button. These red attacks are pretty much the reason why they had to add easy mode.

>>712418116
the partner divorced his fat ugly asian wife and then got with her

>>712430236
git gud

>>712430236
you can dodge red attacks anon
unironic skill issue

>>712412983
The games aren't made for you anymore old man, they're made for Elajjaz.

>>712416196
Lords of the Fallen (the second one) remains one of the worst Soulslikes I've ever played.

>>712430236
You can block them
You can dodge them by simply moving somewhere else instead of being an i-frame nigger
Pretty sure there's a P Organ upgrade so you can dodge them with iframes just in case you're still too much of a shitter

Not really liking the DLC much so far. Enemies have way too much health and some of them deals way too much damage.
Also, flailing beast enemies was always the worst in soulslike games. What part of the random flail am I supposed to parry?

>>712423787
Yeah that flash is actually a secret parry.

>>712407106 (OP)
I've been taking my time with it
It is unironically too HP/damage bloated though. You can't change my mind on this because I'm right

>>712430637
Most normal enemies die in two hits
Unless you're talking about the DLC; haven't gotten to it yet

Seems fine so far. I don't find the game as difficult as people say as I beat the crocodile rather easily. I use a random dex sword and the string arm. Will see how hard it gets later. Might switch to the new legion gun since it seems funny to use

>Tfw having to do the DLC first time in NG+
Oof yikes ouchies OWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWO

>>712430702
I'm talking about the DLC

>>712413630
>tfw on NG++
Hope this isn't true...

>>712430802
>>712430637
It really does feel like the DLC is supposed to be played at medium difficulty
I assume they'll just patch it in the middle of my playthrough

>Wondering why everyone said the final boss of the DLC was so hard when I beat him second try
>Look
>Most people don't use the NPC
But why? it's kino to fight alongside her.

>>712430905
Brainrot.

>>712430905
Cause it's more fun to actually master a boss rather than just hitting it while it's distracted

>Not just Booster Glaive+Live Puppet Axe head
It worked for the base game and it works here, you can literally just charge R2 whenever you have time and win because of how much stagger damage you get out of it.

>>712430905
because muh favorite streamer beat it without help

Will I max my P Organ on NG+? I already ran out of upgrades I actually want and am getting dumb shit like gold fruit cooldown

>>712430905
souls meme of playing everything solo melee only did irrepairable damage to discussions

For Markiona, do I just ignore the puppet and focus on her billions of health, or do I want to down the puppet?

>>712430236
You can easily dodge most red attacks. They just don't have i-frames.
Unironic skill issue if you though that they forced you to parry.

>>712430905
>Used summons
You didn't beat the game.

The boss feels like it's meant to be bullshit difficult but if you want to beat it and get over with the DLC you can use the summon.
First and last time I used summons was against Laxasia and I felt cheated out of an actual fight. Luckily I could refight her later, but I don't get how people enjoy using the summons.

>>712431037
I did almost the same but with an even smaller handle
The fun part is that your block damage reduction is completely independent of the handle you use so you can just sit on block all day lel

>>712431123
Optimally you take down the puppet once, right when she's about to phase 2.

>>712430905
It used to be that you would always summon an NPC that you could to a boss to do their quest.

Nowadays players are really braindamaged.

>>712431171
Live Puppet Axe is just legitimately too good and trivialized so much content, it was hard using the DLC weapons at all because they did so much less stagger and damage for way more effort.
Plus you lose the ability to instantly break half the weapons in the game while having insane guard.

>>712431134
>Laxasia
I folded her ass once I learned that you can reflect her sparks and damage her with it

>>712431328
Such a fucking kino mechanic

>>712431090
The DLC has additional P organ upgrades.

>>712431134
Well that sounds like a skill issue lil bro, I did the entire base game without summons easy, NG+ too but I'll always pick whatever's more fun and fighting the joker puppet was kino with Lea.

>>712407106 (OP)
What's so hard about it? I haven't died more than 2 times to any of the bosses in the dlc and i'm already at chapter 3

>>712431012
You can do that in the boss rematch mode. You're just denying yourself for no reason

>>712431360
With the quartz to go along with it or am I better off saving up my quartz if there truly is no upgrade that benefits me anymore?

>>712431428
Needs Quartz but also a DLC-only item.
You should fill all your Quartz slots first.

>>712431421
I am denying myself what exactly? A boring fight?

>Victor is weak to acid even though he literally has acid being pumped into his veins
?
>scrapped watchman is weak to acid even though it's a puppet and no other puppet is weak to it
????

>>712431414
>Lying on the internet
How creative, surely nobody has done this before.

>>712431090
you get access to Phase 6 P-Organ upgrades, and in NG++ you get to Phase 7
NG+ is actually fun in LoP because you still feel some progression

>>712431581
I know, but I already got all the phase 6es I want. And I'm not gonna run through the game AGAIN just to get phase 7 and reduce my weight

>>712431580
I'm not lying, i'm at the excavation site and i only died 2 times to the overseer, btw 'm not on ng+ if that's the reason it's not as hard

I put the difficulty down to "Awakened Puppet" (1 setting below normal) for the Veronique fight.
Hole shit, this is a huge change.
>enemy moves and attacks and swings at about 80% speed. Longer gaps between swings, and the hammer moves slower through the air.
>perfect guard window is twice as many frames
>enemy does 30% less damage
>enemy has 30% less health
After 20 failed attempts against Veronique --where my best was getting her to 1/4 health only one time, most failing before 1/2 health-- I beat her first try on easy mode. I perfect guarded all by one of her swings and broker her hammer just after she started phase 2.

There is 1 difficulty setting below this one, I cannot fathom how easy that would be.

>>712431707
Yes yes. You are clearly better than everyone else, good for you. Now go have your mum make you a snack.

>>712431721
>enemy moves and attacks and swings at about 80% speed
100% made up, the difficulties only affect health and damage

>>712425051
>Try it with a lighter head
Like what?

>>712431721
I thought all the difficulty settings changed was damage?

>>712412983
>>712416196
Unironically play AI Limit, it avoids the bullshit delayed attacks and flailing enemy spam plaguing the genre right now so combat is actually fun and intuitive. Has great exploration too.

>>712431790
>>712431805
I agree, I wouldn't have expected it to do that.
I used it to pass the Green Monster of the Swamp and noticed no such change.
But in the fight against Veronique it was so obvious, I couldn't have simply been mistaken.

>>712431805
That's correct. Anon is posting lies on the internet. I guess to falseflag lower difficulties as being easier?

>perfect guard still depletes your stamina
why
this feels so strange after playing Khazan

>>712430905
>i cheated on the exam
>wtf it was so easy? whats the big deal guys?
You didnt beat the boss.

You should be ashamed of your dishonorable behavior, and never speak of it again.

>>712431985
Yeah I don't like when parryslop still uses a stamina system honestly. There's a pee organ upgrade to make deflects not use stamina, but that might be NG+ only

>>712432047
whom she

>>712420564
that's nice.
i'm still halfway though the base game tho, might be a while

>>712426197
>>712426457
cheers

>>712432047
All doing good at an exam tests is how good you are at taking exam tests.
Cheating and getting away with it means you're good at taking tests technically.

>>712432146
You would like to know that huh

>>712412983
I haven't played Lies of P yet so i don't know how it is, but personally my issue isn't the amount of hit bosses do, but the difference in "turns" between you and the bosses.
It's fine to have 10 hit + boss attack if I can whack them after that. The issue in shit like modern souls is that they do those 10+ hit, and then the only thing you're allowed to do that is some lame R1 twice and that's it. Also lack of combat diversity (again, just R1 or R2, having 1 combat art in ER doesn't make up for that).
Systems like the ones in Khazan or Wukong has been my favorite recently just because of that, they feel more dynamics and you get to do shit on your turn too.

Fuck this (literal) Bastard

>>712432225
nvm found it
Bit weird to name yourself "miscarry"

>>712431581
>NG+ is actually fun in LoP
does it change anything, levels/enemies wise?
or is it just extra stuff for the MC?

>>712432229
>Lies of P yet so i don't know how it is, but personally my issue isn't the amount of hit bosses do, but the difference in "turns" between you and the bosses.
>It's fine to have 10 hit + boss attack if I can whack them after that. The issue in shit like modern souls is that they do those 10+ hit, and then the only thing you're allowed to do that is some lame R1 twice and that's it
There's no "turns" in Lies of P since every parry contributes to breaking bosses posture bar, similar to Sekiro. So even when youre technically defending youre still working towards doing dmg.

Then the bosses posture bar breaks, and you have time to do your big combo and then do the riposte attack.

(if youre running fast weapon you can do dodge+attack instead, both playstyles are viable; my 1st playthrough was like 90% dodging with dexfag weapon and it was perfectly fine)

>>712432457
No need to dodge, ever. As a dexnigger you can very easily do perfect block + attack in the middle of the enemy combo

>>712432229
In Lies of P even with bosses with longer combo strings, I've generally felt like there have always been moments where the boss had a noticeable pause that could be taken advantage of.

>>712423770
bomb sword

>>712432538
Dodging is sometimes better than parrying

>>712432457
>similar to Sekiro
The big difference is that in Sekiro, breaking posture means that you kill or remove a health bar. In other games and this one, you just do a bit of damage. Not at all the same thing.

>>712432297
is there anything fun you can combine the flamethrower paint into?

>>712432575
naaaawww

>>712432618
Well it takes signifcantly fewer parries in LoP to get posture break compared to Sekiro, so you will be posturebreaking 3-4 times per boss a opposed to one-time per hp bar like in Sekiro

>>712432538
>No need to dodge, ever
Do not listen to this niggery advice.

>>712432683
>>712432618
The main difference in Sekiro that retards always miss is bosses reacting to your attacks. That's the whole HESITATION = DEFEAT thing, most bosses will be put on the back foot by you relentlessly attacking. Every single other parryslop game only has bosses like Monk where it's a big HP sponge that doesn't care about you attacking it

>>712432679
That's just verifiably untrue. There's a reason the world record mixes in dodges and parries

>>712432618
He’s not saying it’s the same, just similar. Which it is.

>>712432645
part*

>>712432842
Yes, because world record trannies totally play the most fun way, right?

>>712432645
I've experimented a little, but I think you'll always want the blade to be as long as possible because the flamethrower attack length is determined by it. Tried the Salamander Dagger blade for example and the flamethrower became a blowtorch lol

>>712432357
no it's not dark souls 2 tier amazing
for enemies it's just HP/damage increases

but along with the phase 6 P Organ you also get better versions of the armor/amulets you found in the basegame

>>712432862
Sort of how like Lies of P and Pong are similar.

>>712432897
oh, interesting. I remember the acid blade being pretty long too

I'm replaying the game before the DLC
Do I go motivity, technique, or advance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbrdoB7qa5E

>>712433004
Motivity is most fun imho

Advance is boring as shit since you kinda do the same thing over and over

>t. just completed advance playthrough and was falling asleep

>>712433167
What same thing?
Advance
>poke with acid/fire stick
Motivity
>bonk with big blade
Or are you saying motivity is better by virtue of having many handles/blades to choose from? I can see that
On my first playthrough I even used a technique handle (dancing blade I think?) with motivity crank for a while and it worked great

>>712429509
Loved rosaura. Wish we could’ve taken her to Krat and she could wander around like the cat.

>>712432930
This is a lot of posts just to say you’re a drooling idiot.

>>712433004
Quality IMO, almost everything scales with both motivity and technique and it lets you switch things up.

>>712431721
>>712431790
>>712431805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuzPB01mplo
Look at how slow she is moving.

>>712407106 (OP)
Why did the patch flopped so hard ?

>>712433004
What endgame weapons do you want to use is what you do

>>712425648
GYATT

>>712433582
what is that goofy hockey stick weapon lol

Smash or pass?

>>712433582
Looks the same speed to me, you just learned her moveset right after switching

>>712429509
>>712433321
Nothing stops you from headcanoning you just take her and the sentient puppet from the swamp back to the hotel and fix them up later.

>>712419898
The bow seems to be extremely stamina hungry, but otherwise yeah pretty sweet.

Can you destroy this wall or something?

>>712433712
Fuck I wanna do a hockey stick run now

My platinum save is at NG+++, how fucked am i?

>>712433935
You have to find something later that will direct you to it

>>712433935
Yes, but later during a sidequest.

>>712434039
On my first playthough of the game I used the Kukri blade on the Exploding Pickaxe handle for a huge portion of the run.
In that vid he's using the Coil Mjolnir handle.

>>712429316
Hardly. The good ending is more interesting for a sequel.

>>712433802
pass

>>712434397
Is the exploding pickaxe the ones whose charged heavy attacks a million times? Or is that the pistol

>Tfw just using the oriental blade because it's cool
>Losing out on all these handle combination shenanigans

Ugh...

>>712434843
It's not that cool. The concept is genius and a breakthrough in game design, but the actual thing you end up doing is "I like this moveset, now what blade can I put on it to make it faster"

>>712434687
That's the Pistol Rock Drill. Kukri is bad at stabbing so it's bad with the PRD.
The Exploding Pickaxe moveset is mostly vertical swings.
Mjolnir is mostly diagonal swings.

>>712434263
>>712434265
Yeah, found cipher. Doing it right now.

>>712412983
>demon's/ds1
those games are way too easy

Do I lie or tell the truth to Lumacchio about what Veronique said? Does it matter?

>>712435112
This is the big secret. Anyone who ever beat DaS1 can easily sleepwalk through any replay, and even DaS2 will see you beating most bosses first try
The only way to keep the fights interesting was to make the bosses spastic retards

>>712435307
I meant what Lea said, my bad

>>712417954
nah, my only problem was visibility, it keeps sticking it's head to you and cornering you so you can't see shit

>>712435307
follow your heart

>>712435307
If you choose wrong, he will heal during his boss fight

>>712435307
Bruh, you always lie in this game.

>>712435414
Wait nvm I had it right the first time I'm dumb

>>712435494
Thanks anon

>>712435583
This anon speak the truth

>>712435583
But I'm already 100% human from the true ending, I can lie whenever I want now

>start NG to rust off for DLC
>okay, this time I'll try using a new weapon com-
>go for sawblade + pickaxe handle again the moment they're available
It just works.

>the brain in the vat part

>>712435950
Big brain move right there

>>712435950
I mean, you see it coming from a mile away but it was well executed. VA did great work.

>>712433264
Motivity is better because you have many weapons to choose from and youre not locked into weapon choice based on what enemy youre fighting

As opposed to advance, where
>puppet = i have to use electric head
>beast/carcass = i have to use fire head
etc.

>>712435568
Wait, lying to him is what makes him heal?

What can even stand against P at this point? Unless he gets depowered in the potential sequel somehow.

>>712435950
I can't say I felt too bad for him, considering he mentioned other "failed" test subjects and he was the guy working on it.

>>712436226
Well we probably won't even be playing as him in the sequel.

>>712416594
>retconning
:(
>retconning, Lies of P
so fucking based :)

>>712435950
Sounds like he got a taste of his own medicine. The fucking machine is his invention.

>>712436496
you missed the part where he said nothing major?

>>712436496
>retconning
It retcons nothing

Overseer & Guardian > Arlecchino
Remove the first phase and the 30 second combo and he's cool.

>>712436226
You’d need to get some wizards.

La Vendetta is very funny.

>>712436713
I liked all major bosses beyond the Bastard and Sweeper leaders.

>>712436828

>>712436828
>did exactly as much damage as my puppet blade + police baton handle charge R2 that's 3x faster
lel

>>712434042
I have almost 1k health on ng+++ and enemies still 2-3 shot me. Have fun.

>>712437089
That's an un-upgraded blade.
I just chose it because it looked ridiculous spinning. Kukri blade was also funny.

I beat it 3 times before the difficulty options if that what's you're asking.

Replaying the finale with Rose Blade is cathartic. Pure power fantasy about a hero barging in, saving a girl and wrecking the evildoers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jELlbJLx1XQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFzbRTAyal8

Haven't gotten to the dlc yet, is Dorothy referenced at all?

>making it even easier
but why?

The p-organ upgrades are fucking worthless.

;_;

Does your main game ending affect the DLC at all? I don't wanna listen to 30 records again

>>712437554
>saving

After redoing the main game bosses in the rematch thing I can confidently say nameless puppet and laxasia are infinitely better designed than the dipshit DLC bosses
I hope the sequel is more similar to the base game than the DLC

>>712436828
>Maniac's Pinwheel Blade + La Vendetta Handle

When did you guys realize dodging was a meme? I did my L10 run being slightly heavy most of the game and just parryed everything

>>712438832
Slightly heavy runspeed is so fucking slow

>>712429984
I wouldn't mind even more story, if you're going to charge 70$ for a game at least put some effort into having a memorable story and characters

>>712412983
Here is the issue. I actually went back and replayed DS1-3 earlier this year.
Dark Souls 1 (haven't played since the original PC release) still has the best atmosphere and feeling of exploration out of all of the games. The problem? It is now so easy that it is kind of boring. I've never been a great Souls player, yet I one shot nearly every boss with just a standard ass build. No crazy cheese red tearstone ring giga buff pyromancy crap. I played a dex build and was just able to very easily beat everything. The DLC was the only part where I died more than once to a boss and it felt like something of a challenge. I died more to environmental stuff and trying to make janky jumps than I did bosses/enemies.
Dark Souls 2 still had pretty good level and exploration despite everyone memeing on the levels and the "paths" and stuff. However, the janky animations and hitboxes hurt the game a lot. I died way more than DS1, but I didn't feel especially challenged. Most of my deaths felt like bullshit.
Dark Souls 3 I think was OVERALL the best balance of difficulty with exploration. It was not as good as 1, but better than 2, and the bosses were much harder. I died a lot. However, there were plenty of levels I was not a huge fan of (the cathedral just sucks), and I think some of the bosses do start to go a bit too far. Dancer is just an annoying ER-tier fight in DS3 and I died to her more than any other boss, even DLC ones.

tl;dr - It is hard to make a game like Dark Souls when it is now so easy that it undermines the atmosphere.

>>712417247
The clown killed me more than most of the bosses when I played at release. There is just something about his attacks. The perfect amount of jank, delay, and weird animations to fuck you over.

>>712415128
I didn't farm anything and I hit the DLC at level 79. However, I did use the p-organ upgrades and amulet that gave extra ergo so that probably made up the levels.

The Evangelist head is kind of meh even on an Advance build, but I really like this handle.

>>712431745
I am better than you it seems, keep crying nigger

>>712439626
It's basically a rocket hammer moveset.

>>712430905
These are the same "people" that refuse to summon Solaire in Dark Souls or Siegward in 3.

>Gunblade? Equipped.
>Eyepatch? Purchased.
>Scarf? Activated.
Yeah, it's Peeing time.

>>712439857
Some people actually want to play the game? The horror.

>>712426191
Because she literally asks you to die? Also you put her soul into a puppet body where she isn't in constant pain.

>>712440109
I did play the game, and had more fun doing it.

>put la vendetta head on any weapon
>instantly becomes kino
I think my favorite has to the pistol rock drill. just constant explosion when you use the handle fable art

>>712429984
Lies of P does probably have the best story of any Souls-like game. I can't think of another that actually has a fully coherent story from start to finish. I guess Khazan does too, but that is more like Nioh and its story is bland.

>>712440397
>Interactive cutscenes with "epic" dialogue are more fun than mechanically interesting bosses
OK chief, from the same retards who claim "gameplay is everything" that's a little funny

>>712420331
>a functioning bow weapon in an ARPG
like in... Bloodborne?

>>712430236
With red attacks it is annoying because you have to learn them individually. Some are so easy to parry you're just a fag if you whine. Some can be dodged by just sprinting away when they glow red. Meanwhile others will be super delayed and track you across the entire stage and dodging feels like a crapshoot.
There is an amulet that lets you dodge red attacks though.

>>712440604
>Yhorm
>Mechanically interesting
lol

>>712440631
A bow that's just a bow.

>>712430905
>Use the NPC
>Get kino dialogue, kino banter, lore, and the most badass fatal blow animation in the entire game
>But it is is too easy
>Don't use the NPC
>Boss actually reacts to you fighting alone but no lore
>Don't get the kino animation
>But it is actually hard
It sucks you have to choose. I say make her there by default in Phase 1 and then get knocked out in Phase 2 and then help you at the very end to kill him.

>>712440685
I was referring to Arlecchino but sure, cope however you want

I don't know if it's something new they added with the DLC, but if you go to the room next to the gold coin tree, there is a letter where Paracelsus was and it ways something about "Being thrilled to have witnessed a brother come back to life" signed P.P.

Are they hinting at some motherfucking Peter Pan ?

>>712437936
>Think he meant his wife divorced him when he said she left him
>Later find out she actually turned into a carcass and died
Sadge.

>>712441306
>where Philippus Paracelsus was
>signed P.P.
>hinting at Peter Pan?
You ok? Take half next time.

>checked stem reviews and discussions
>people say they reused the swamp monster in the dlc
Huh? I think I explored everything there is but didn't see any boss like this in Overture.

>Elementary my dear puppet

>>712441537

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracelsus

He was never plainly called "Philippus Paracelsus". It's one or the other. You're filling the blanks just as much as I

>find out I can upgrade the P-Organ perks
What the fuck this changes everything.

>>712441537

Philippus Aureolus Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim

Hardly gets a "P.P." for initials

>>712441582
The elevator in the mines leading down to the end has a secret tunnel you can walk off into behind you in the wall. At the end of that path is a boss fight with the juvenile, pre-puppet consuming version of the Green Monster.It's actually the same one we fight in the base game because it escapes after the fight.

I couldn’t beat lumacchio without using the nameless puppet amulet, bros…

>>712441665
>>712441776
Fine, maybe you're right.
Or maybe he just signed the letter with his peepee.

I like the the game changes between night and day, and you can go back to older areas and get a different feel.

How does she know her way around a weapon?

>>712441778
Does it drop anything? Certainly not a weapon or arm.

Here's your sequel MC.

>>712442615
Just a quartz iirc

>>712442250
I want her to show me her way around my weapon.

actually planning to get the game now it has easy mode

I take it there's no way to get Veronique's rocket hammer?

>>712437779
No.

>>712443631
'fraid not

Why the fuck is the perfect timing for the shotgun legion arm so damn inconsistent? I swear I release the trigger as soon as it glows but it doesn't even trigger the stronger attack half the time.

>>712430271
He was MARRIED to that whale?

>>712437819
Normies are somehow still crying about difficulty

>>712444860
Of course they are, even on easy you still can't just delete a boss with a single key press.

>it's Lies of P because it's Lies of Paracelsus

>>712418670
Could be a couple reasons. Help Rosaura ie Puppet Girlfriend, reconnect with and save Romeo and Lea to help Carlo, keep timeline generally right while also revealing and tweaking things for the better like outing Lumacchio as a rat

>>712442250
It's almost a shame she's sisterzoned, she is a cutie. But there's no better partner for P than Sophia.

>>712442660
>Its the swamp puppet bro that we teach emotes to

>>712407106 (OP)
Yeah, but I also used the Flamethrower which I think is beyond overpowered, but idk, sounds like all the weapons in the DLC are OP
I also had Alidoro and Lea's help during their boss fights, but that was mostly for thematic reasons, I beat the oversee by myself in boss rush after, still working on Arlecchino solo, motherfucker is hard

>>712437936
>>712441498
The music that plays in his house hits hard

>>712407716
whomst? any nudes?

>>712409642
for what fucking purpose? you can swap difficulties at ANY time, is this literally just to appease people who are too stubborn to turn it down?

>>712445247
>ignoring Rosaura

>>712445487
yes. people want to say they beat it on the hardest difficulity

>>712445108
No it ain't, nigga.

>>712418670
We stopped Arlecchino tho

PP so cute

>>712445546
same people who likely used the specter for every fight, main reason why the croc is a big filter is because players can't use it there, or use ONLY meta approved weapons because they can't do anything without them

>>712444569
Don't rely on its glow, wait for the sound cue.

What do you think P is going to do after game events? I think becoming the new owner of the hotel and helping the town to rebuild with a mix of violence and kind lies would've been cool.

>>712429372
Was she into Carlo? I thought it was that other side quest where mine alchemist dude was setting up a date with someone implied to be her and then another alchemist implied to be Simon had the dude's brain put in his own experiment which just so happened to end up working.

>>712445346
The base moves set of the dlc weapons are simply better.
They have a lot of forward movement so you can engage from further away so it's safer and easier to hit enemies. The slashing ones also tend to have wide arcs which makes hitting multiple enemies easier.

>>712445739
the croc surprised me with how many complaints he had, made me expecting some bullshit but it was just the camera with how much he tends to push you into the corner. He deals average damage and is a one phase boss.

>>712445910
Become a jiggalo for old big tit aunts

>>712445259
100% with dorothy as the MC, why else would they show her around krat at the end of the game

WHY I CANT FIGHT THE CROCODILE AGAIN???

Also do you notice the BIG buff?

>>712446073
>Dorothy
>Swamp Puppet as Tin Man
>Klaus as Cowardly Lion
Who is scarecrow?

>>712445986
He's difficult to learn perfect parry timings on because its hard to gauge the hitboxes of a boss the size of a semi-truck that's spazzing out with obnoxious camera fuckery
he's not so bad, if you dodge and have a faster weapon, he's honestly a pushover

>>712445910
>lop 2 has a revamped hotel by P that also talks and is a good geppetto
kino?

>>712442660
it'd be funny if it was just our puppet carlo

>>712445951
>Was she into Carlo
The entire reason Simon is so asshurt is that she choose P over him, going far enough to gift her very soul to P. The other dude's fate just shows how madly Simon wanted that blue ass for himself.

>>712444820
Oh yes he was

>>712445986
Personally I found the Abomination Giraffe mini boss as worse than crocodile

>>712446073
The moment I saw Rosaura had red shoes, I immediately wondered if she was going to be Dorothy.

>>712446370
Oh I was reading it as something in the DLC like a note mentioning her and Carlo rather than main game stuff

>>712445965
nta but since we're discussing DLC weapons, all of them are extremely fun and viable. On day 1 I thought the exploding dildo is a meme but it's starting to grow on me.

What's a good weapon for a NG++++ playthrough (mainly used Ark sword). Heard Twin Dragon can be neat and I guess there's also Lea's boss weapon for story flavor sake. Though I am probably going to be rocking Black Rabbit gear

No, I played Nioh 3 Alpha instead because i have sex.

>>712445910
That sounds cozy. If P knows about Paracelsus though I imagine he'd want to go after him.
>>712446073
While I think her being mc is a real possibility, it could also be the case that she's an important npc.

>>712407106 (OP)
The current game already is in shitter-friendly state anyway. Has been since shortly after release, 2 years ago.

>>712446471
Vendetta has really high guard and you can build it's exploding stacks by blocking with it.
The buff overrides the stacks though so building stacks by guarding seems like a meme.

>>712445986
I think the only thing that kept getting me with the crocodile was like the third attack in one of his combos that for some reason deals twice as much damage as any other attack he has.

>tiMe tO ExiT mY sTaGe

>>712445910
He's probably going to be sought out by that group Paracelsus is a part of now that he's an immortal bro (at least in the good ending)

>>712446370
the question is who made the puppet vessel for her, and would putting her soul into the puppet be a reason enough to power down Carlopuppet

>>712446798
Had to be Simon who made that or had it made

>>712446471
I've been progressing on my Motivity character and holy fuck, the Gunblade is fun as fuck, dope moveset and does great damage, killer sound design too, all around very satisfying to use, especially with something like the shotgun arm for more explosions
I also like La Vendetta, its basically an exploding baseball bat, can't forget the pinwheel either, I used the Puppet of the Future Welder on my Advance character and that thing is absurd
haven't used the claws or the rocket spear yet

>>712446798
I think if he's a protagonist of the sequel his heart will get stolen to be in line with Wizard of Oz.

>>712446772
>Stubborn AND FoOolisH. How very HUMAN of you!"

>>712446798
Simon probably had it made with fully functional onahole pussy because he knew her physical body was only going to keep deteriorating and he didn't fuck with that.

So Simon has consciously manipulated the events so Arlecchino would be let loose near the Rose Estate, right?

>>712446772
I can't express how much I love this nigga, I don't know who the voice actor is, but goddamn, he's insanely good, every single line is great and his design is striking as all hell

The tasteless man’s bloodbourne

>hearing the extra dialouge and lea's goated voice acting during the final battle
bros maybe I missed out by not having her help me

>>712446772
>nearly 2 hours of trying
>finally get past phase 1 regularly with most of my cells intact
>try summoning Lea once
>had to suicide because I almost won
Is there no middle ground

>>712447248
Just beat the fight with Lea and then fight him solo with the boss rematch feature

>>712447304
Which rematch level is equivalent to NG level on legendary stalker?

>>712438228
Yes

>Rose Sword is actually just a normal sword, Lea just poured so much of her vows into it, it becomes this magical blade of assrape when wielded by her or P

>>712447383
Not sure, I fought him on lvl 3 I think? that felt right

>>712447383
there's no equivalent. 3-4 are easier than legendary stalker but 5 is harder than legendary stalker. if you miss a parry you lose like 15% of ur weapon durability shit is insane

>>712407106 (OP)
nah
i played nightreign

>>712447082
Likely since his main alchemist rival was one of the people in charge of the place and once he was out of the way he basically ruled the Alchemists

>>712447452
>>712447474
I'm gonna beat him with my parry grindstone first in the story then

>>712447160
His whole questline is a delight to go through. The VA knocked it out of the park and I was glad he got to come back as an actual boss in the DLC as it meant more of him chewing up the scenery through his audio recordings and the fight

>The near last phone call you get from him where it becomes more evident that something's up when the voice becomes noticeably garbled when he says the word "MURDER"

>>712447618
>manage to survive his opening attack in phase 2 fairly reliably (need a heal after though)
>he fucking does it AGAIN later
jeez, I don't blame anyone for using the parry grindstone, that combo is rough

>he used anything other than the default arm
You didn't beat the game.

>>712447716
He feels like several allusions to Pluto at once, probably conscious ones too.
>Brau's awakened murderbot ego
>Pluto's power and artfag background

>>712447814
I can't help it bro, the other legion arms are too much fun, the shotgun legion arm is all I ever wanted for this game
wish we could upgrade it, just punching a fucker is satisfying as hell

>>712447160
>>712447716
he is DEFINATELY gonna be a recurring villain if this really becomes a series
I wouldn't be surprised if there is another motivated version of him outside of krat

>>712447082
Him and Gepetto
In the cellar you can find a murder police puppet near a corpse, with a letter to warn Sophie's father of Manus betrayal. It was the 9th letter so you can assume that every letter before that the messenger all got killed by the bot before the message can be delivered.

>>712447956
I beat the DLC and only just realized it has a timed super shot. I really should read more carefully.

>>712447992
I mean the guy survived two thorough shreddings. Plus with how Ergo works it wouldn't be surprising if he somehow reincarnates in another form when some other tard fucks around with it. He's too fun not to have come back somehow

>>712447449
if only Romeo didnt get screwed over, he'd be able to use it too..

>>712448162
It's a shame there isn't some follow up to Romeo after the DLC unless I missed something. Like P/Carlo going back to the boss room and doing something

On the one hand, its really cool that throwing items in this game are powerful and viable as a ranged option to keep up pressure
On the other hand, it almost feels like cheating sometimes, when the final boss enters phase 2, you can chuck like 4-5 items at him and knock off a ton of health before the fight has even started

>>712447992
>>712448119
>Comes back in a later game, but his Ergo could only manage to find a baby doll to manifest in

>>712448358
its his challenge run

>>712446772
What legion arm is actually good against him?

>>712448309
In the base game you can chunk Larxasia 2nd health bar to half while she was in the air, before she could do anything, with throwables.

>>712448309
that's what i did. And it's likely that he would do that move twice in a single fight

>>712448162
They look like real people in a photo here
Wonder if it's actually a photo

>>712448119
>>712448358
A wackier route is if he ends up being the Scarecrow of Dorothy's group
>Doesn't remember previous game events outside of vague stuff as he got fucked up super hard
>Do his questline to proverbial "get him his brain" ie memories
>Ending is either him becoming a boss or having "helping" the gang by holding off a super boss where its more just him indulging his murderboner again.

>>712448502
Puppet String (assuming you time it right) is effective as always, you can use Aegis to take off a LOT of pressure from his longer combo strings, the two new ones (Icarus and Cataclysm) are highly effective as well, since Icarus is basically free damage and Cataclysm does both good damage and builds stagger
I suppose you could also use the electric and fire arms to get some status on him too if you like, I doubt he stands still long enough for the acid puddle or mines to be even slightly useful

>>712447474
>3-4 are easier than legendary stalker
Are you sure? I beat him in NG and immediately went for a rematch (diff 3) and he definitely does more than the base game

I started this, but then Lords of Fallen went on sale and had multiplayer, which actually sucks because everyone I summon just starts rushing the whole fucking game and I am just keeping up feeling like I'm wasting my time and not actually experiencing anything. I should just go back.

>tfw the carcass bear actually leaves you alone if you do the play dead emote

>Brau was amazing in Pluto
>Arlecchino is amazing in Lies of P
You simply can't go wrong with this archetype

>>712448719
I'm using icarus but he basically just runs through it.am I doin it wrong

>>712413779
did nothing wrong

>>712448309
Fellas if I toss 8 thermite onto the dlc final boss while he does his malenia bullshit did I beat the game

>>712448881
>Alidoro notices if you are using the same sword as him, as well as having a unique line if you wear his getup in front of him
its the little things like this

>>712448881
>eugenie has secret dialogue when you use deep bow to sniff her feet

>>712407106 (OP)
Beat it on 1.0 patch when it first dropped, $1 for gamepass. Game was mid.
Souls is a dungeon crawling format where difficulty should be evenly distributed across player limitations, the environment, asymmetrical enemy encounters, knowledge checks, preparation, and combat. Everyone that plays these wannabe action game souls-likes should know by now the shallow and dishonest result of consolidating difficulty into enemy movesets alone. The sooner this genre dies the better.

>>712440035
>Scarf
What Scarf?

>>712449246
while I do wish that we got more soulslikes that focus on the adventure aspects of the early From games, I'm also quite enjoying these "action game with stamina" ones quite a lot

why are thes esuck

Do you guys play on pad or m+kb?

I hope the sequel has a gunblade just like Pale Knight, I don't know why, slapping a revolver barrel onto a sword and having that sword explode just activates my neurons

>>712450026
Remnant 2 is good.

So for defensive parts, I found a new cartridge, converter and liner, is there a new frame and if so, where is it?

>>712450395
In the "armor equip" menu

>>712450373
is it the one that can be played fully coop?

>>712450147
pad ftw, playing souls-likes on mouse and keyboard is actual torture

>>712449874
Sure, bar is low for video games, and Lies of P is better than most. But Souls-likes that play to the actual strengths of Souls, and action games that offer the player more agency than just mashing R1 between rolls or deflects, would be an objectively better state of affairs than what we currently have.

>>712450196
FUCK THAT SHITTY CAT

WASTED AN ANCIENT DISK ON THAT FURBALLSACK

>>712449874
play ai limit

>>712450508
I feel like mouse would be better for parrying.

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/sx_xNaSXNP7d7wkHqxsTWQ/
Do not reply to webm schizo, he's starting his usual autism routine.

>>712450147
i played all of the 3d souls like on mkb

>>712448881
>>712449164
>This is something Hackazaki is utterly incapable of despite having 10x the budget and team size

>>712450796
damn, the Simon fight really traumatized him

>>712450897
Miyazaki is just doing the same shit Nintendo is doing, the who cares they'll consume the slop anyway thing.

>>712450897
He's too busy adding extremely detailed wrinkles to all the feet models please understand

>>712412983
The only boss in the game that has 10 hit strings like AreLeKino. I don’t remember Markiona or the Overseer having 10 hit strings.

>>712407106 (OP)
So, if I'm always going to be of "filtered" status if I play after the patch, should I even start?

>>712450897
Seriously, the difference between the NPC treatment in post-DS2 souls and LoP is monumental.

>>712450549
the market definitely fell in a bit of a rut with devs aping souls games just because it's the trend even though sometimes it would be beneficial to let go of some mechanics. For example I don't know why Khazan has "soul retrieval" after death, it has never bothered me but also I have no idea what it's supposed to add to a game like that.
>>712450572
I'll get to that one too eventually, but isn't it action-focused as well?

>>712417954
Beat him on my second attempt
Git gud

>>712418670
The white butterfly was probably Carlo or Carlo's mom

>>712451358
no, it has pretty good exploration

>>712422915
She's the peak of human evolution

>>712423038
>voluptuous female puppets that shove their feet in your face
oh?

>Retards calling Laxasia blue like Markiona
BITCH SHE IS ALMOST AS WHITE AS HER BANDAGES

THE FUCK YOU MEAN "BLUE"???

I HATE REDDIIIIIIITTTTTTTT

>>712449828

>>712451871
>t. color blinded retard

>>712421225
Same level, maybe slightly above
I enjoyed my 15 hours with it

Did they finally explain how Carlo died?

>>712451971
Sorry, on which planet does gray-white count as blue?

>>712452130
No - a loading screen says it was Petrification disease but the way Lea and others talk about him makes it sound like something else

>>712452130
He died of ligma

>>712452130
where did you get this picture from?