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>>712412303 (OP)
Wilds is a test run for DD2 dlc

>>712412303 (OP)
I haven't been paying attention to Wilds. What fucked up now?

>>712412374
This is really all Capcom cares about
Wilds outsold World so as far as they're concerned Wilds was the better game and they'll model MH after it going forward

DD2 was neutered for this

Months later and the game still runs like shit

>>712412494
Capcom getting your ass banned if you'll try to unlock trickle content, that is already in the game, with a mod on PC.

>>712412303 (OP)
literally get the fuck over it, it was a success

>>712412303 (OP)
Needs to be thrown in the trash. They should just make more World content and forget Wilds ever happened.

>>712412636
And you still a virgin LOL

It sold well it's shit but people like shit now

>>712412303 (OP)
It just proves that once they cut out all the fat of the gameplay, fix the clunkiness, and remove the tedious grind, monster hunter has always just been a shallow and boring experience.

>>712412303 (OP)
Good

>>712412734
Not for long. Come here.

Monster Sloppa is a 30 hour cinematic experience for normies to pump and dump now.

ayo what the fuc

>>712412418
Well it apparently it has the review scores to live up to the standards of DD2 so why don't they go ahead and release that dlc?

>>712412303 (OP)
I legit don't think I've had a bigger buyer's regret in the last ~15 years or so. The last one on this level was Guild Wars 2, but even that I actually had fun with until I got to the endgame.
It's unreal how much they have fucked this game up.

>>712413268
ewww
where's the penis?
why is her chest so big and not muscly and strong?
why is her face not masculine?
why is her hair so long?
why is she pear shaped?

This shit sucks bro

I had my fun with wilds but its braindead easy with overaccelerated progression making it quick to get bored
the story and cutscenes suck too

>>712413268
nice

>>712413408
FACT with videogames you never lose if you wait

>>712412494
1. Its boring because no difficulty, the meme of waiting for G rank has run its course, no one wants the fun to be a year after release
2. The live server part is nothing but FOMO bullshit, no one wants to be forced to play between set days or weeks to get access to things which then get locked out forever, plus what content is there is badly balanced or pointless, like new armor/weapons which do nothing, all wrapped in massive grind

>>712413901
That has been my go-to with almost all games, I usually wait anywhere between a few months to 1-2 years, I bought Wilds on release because I was planning to play it with 2 of my friends.
Lesson learned.

>>712412303 (OP)
It sold a bajillion copies

>>712412636
Just buy a 9800X3D and 5090. You don't NEED more than 80 FPS.

>>712412523
No Capcom game will ever outsell World.

if you bought this trash you're the problem

got to the end of high rank, made a few artian weapons and got bored.
the weapons are really fun and feel super good and impactful but it's just way too easy to dunk on monsters with the wound system. they need to reduce the wound rate by half and make it so wounds don't stunlock monsters or something.

every monster hunter game since FU is casualized garbage. if you bought tri, 4U, etc. you killed the franchise.

I'm a risechad and I'm glad I didn't buy this shit
now excuse me, my wives Chichae and Yomogi need me

>>712414483
make wounds on a part a one off, unless for special occasions.
as well as making them harder to make without flayer, less stunlocky etc, I dont see why I can open 6 different wounds per part to begin with.
The wounds on paper are a good idea and the logical better version of tenderising, but it feels like it shouldve been more like (old) gravios's chest where wailing on a part for long enough makes it a weaker part and thats it, same way tenderising worked in iceborne, just gives you a better hitzone - only to get it you have to smack it a bunch. That or use bombs.

If they were 2x - 3x harder to make, less people would 'pop' them right away too as youd want to extract more damage via the bonus damage first
I dont hate the idea, but the execution, and I cant believe the playtesters okayed it.... assuming they tested at all.

>>712414002
i spent the last week blasting through rise+sunbreak from a deep discount bundle
i would have been pissed if i bought this at anything resembling full price
i heard there wasnt even an end to the base story at launch
>>712414552
them bitches look like frogs

Switch release when?

>>712414535
>blames tri
>etc the real culprit world
Dishonest. Wilds is world 2. They went down the road of movie crap sony created after all it was first revealed on the PlayStation

>30 fps
>All monsters are shit
>PS3 graphics
>Retarded interface
>Unskippable walking segments
>No Elder Dragons
>Less monsters than MH2 and 4
>LS is overpowered
>No challenge
>No MH language
Is this the worst game of all time?

they need to nerf focus mode or best case remove it completley together with wounds.
proper positioning no longer being a thing in Monster Hunter is so fucking sad

>>712412374
>>712412523
Current sales of Wilds only matter on the short term.
What actually matters is the MASSIVE damange to the Monster Hunter brand, and Capcom in general, that this game did. If they do not make significant and visible improvements for the next MH game, it will absolutely tank.

Not to mention people will be much more veary to even buy the next game because they straight up lied with the benchmark.

>buys the base game
>complains
I tell you retards EVERY. TIME. it only is good when its the G-rank version kek

>>712415450
>forgetting the story

>>712413268
Too fat, otherwise nice

>>712415667
Won't fix performance. Performance is the entire reason people* hate WIlds.

*tendies aren't people

>>712415595
>because they straight up lied with the benchmark
You didn't see the
>*recommended for 60FPS 1080p with upscaling and frame generation software enabled
bit? Capcom knew their game ran like fucking shit, and they told us as much with the recommended/system specs. The benchmark being extremely misleading shouldn't have thrown anyone paying attention. You could see the reqs disclaimer, and you'd know. Or you could have fucking paid any modicum of attention to the benchmark, noticed that half of it was cutscene garbage and the other half ran like absolute piss, and you'd know then as well.

>>712415667
They'll never fix performance, and that's a huge part of negative response to the game. It's unacceptably unoptimized, and I doubt they'll unfuck it with G rank.

>>712415595
The hope is the devs see this backlash and the NEXT MH, or hopefully the expansion, addresses the fans complaints and then the actual next MH returns to more classic roots.

The fear is they see this as the most successful MH yet and double down thinking what theyre doing is clearly working, despite us all knowing it sold well due to marketing and normalfag hype, not its focus on story and mass casualisation

The FEAR+1 is that they do go back to classic MH roots, at least half-half, but normalfags who were hyped into buying wilds got so burned by its low quality, that they dont buy the next MH thinking the series is actually kind of boring, and then the devs assume "okay, modern MH sells millions, classic does not! no more classic ever then!"

These retarded nips dont pay attention to feedback and just assume they know whats up, and they dont think about knock on effects, the next MH is guaranteed to sell less now that normies think wilds is milds, so I actually hope they do double down on the nu formula, get raped in the sales, then go back to classic and fucking stay there.

>>712412734
but he fucked your mum

>>712415949
>tendies out of nowhere
Obsessed

>>712415949
>>712416027
to be fair, they said that about world but the performance from worlds launch to iceborne is night and day

but considering we're two months in and the game still runs like shit, you're probably right. I forgot how long world took to be less shit performance wise.

>>712412303 (OP)
I played my 50 hours and did all the content the game had to offer, and now I wait for G rank. I only wish I hadn't bought it at release. But I'll be damned if they get me running on some hamster wheel, logging in once a month to fight one monster. No thanks.

>>712416129
I'd love to be proven wrong, but like you said, they've had months to do anything about it.

>>712412303 (OP)
its just boring man... not only that they straight up butchered up CB with savage axe spam and SA with FRS spam.

>>712416129
Other than the initial issues with e.g. teo blast and nvidias driver having a profile set that tanked the performance whixh wasn't crapcoms fault the game ran worse after the IB update. People just had better hardware at this point but given how the pc market is right now enjoy playing wilds+dlc in 5 years

>>712416260
>its just boring man
It really, really is. Snooze fest game.

>>712416123
tendie

>>712416129
iceborne is mixed on steam because of performance. they fixed nothing

>>712412303 (OP)
What happened now?

>>712415675
God I hate that fucking pajeet kid. the funny thing is he had a 180 turn on his no-killing arkveld stance in the late end portion of the game.

>>712416129
>>712416229
just did some looking up, it took several months for world to have its performance issues addressed, with complaints about it going well into the 6 month mark
Seems around that time it was mostly okay, but it wasnt until iceborne where they actually squashed it down to nothing. Now world runs more or less amazingly well.
>>712416390
not true, you can find proof the PS4 version was running sub 30fps a lot of the time that was gone by the time iceborne came out, not sure when it was fixed but it wasnt within a month. Yes, the pro existed at that time too but I dont think thats fair to assume everyone got one and thats why the issues stopped

This wouldnt change the fundamental issues with the game of course, but thats what the DLC can try and at least compromise on.
If you want new MH to return to its roots, focus your complaints on the mechanics and casualisation, otherwise they will mass handwave the negativity away on performance that they will say "will fix later"

>>712416525
bro at that point the performance issue was user error, they were all below the spec for the game kek

>>712412303 (OP)
the game runs like shit on older pcs i'm not interested in playing an unoptimized mess.

>>712412636
20 frames is ample

>>712416032
>next MH returns to more classic roots

At this point, I'm not even sure if they're capable of producing a classic Monster Hunter again.
Wilds feels like they don't even know what makes their games so great.

>>712416689
>proof the PS4 version
Good for them but on PC it ran worse and wilds has most of its sales on PC.

>>712416032
You're not getting "classic" Monster Hunter ever again. You're getting something closer to World/Rise than Wilds.

>>712416585
most people are mad they didnt fix any performance issues with the new update, pretty much. Despite this being the second major patch.

other people who had not reviewed it yet finally gave their opinion and have all collectively said "yes, its too easy, too casual, and has no soul" to paraphrase.

The second TU just didnt change anything balance wise, and even just nerfed some weapons
One bowgun guy is very mad about the bowgun nerf despite them already gutting the weapon, and pretty succinctly tied the state of the soulless bowguns vs the old games, to how the game is as a whole: fundamentally not understanding the reason bowgun was fun in the past and why so many people loved it, casualising it down into a husk of itself,
that isnt fun to play anymore
>bowgun was never fu-
no the HBG in the old games solo was peak spreadsheet autism simulator. But now its garbage

Thats wilds. Sanded down to a silky smooth finish, polished to the point where it just isnt MH anymore.

>>712412374
Every day this edit grows stronger

>>712416913
the dream game is half way between world and like, 3U.
not everything about Nu MH is bad, if you had nu MH but with classic MH 'friction' then, id be happy with that.
Rise, generations, and wilds are all garbage.

>>712412303 (OP)
World was shit for a while after release too. And Iceborne. They just can't fucking port these games.

>>712417024
I just don't think that's going to happen.
Rise is better than World btw

ready to apologize yet?

>>712417052
Its not just because it runs like dogwater. Its soulless slop. All that time and money for easily the worst MH game ever made.

>>712417118
Nah, World was the first step on the slippery slope that led us to Wilds.

>>712417118
No that downie retard is still worse than the girls in Wilds. I wish they weren't trapped in a shit game though

Worldbabbies got their World 2 and cry that it doubled down on everything World already fucked. At least Rise is arcadey fun.

>>712417080
>Rise is better than World btw
how so?
Everything wrong with wilds is in part in rise
>ez mode
>op hunter
>piss combat
>muh anime moves
>david and goliath mechanics just shat on
>automatic hand holding mechanics
>no 'hunting'
>no balance
>literally no final boss until months in
>rampage
I could go on, but rise is Generations 2.0 (-3) and doubled down on everything that gen did wrong but in worlds engine. World at least had some good things added or changed, and at least had SOME classic mh blood, if only a little.
Rise is the result of normalfags bitching about hunting mechanics, one of the last few classic traits left.

none of these games are good, id rather 3U/4U get remade at this point, but I can at least hope they service the fans more next time with MH7 and at least compromise with a "okay, its world again, but skewed towards classic MH instead of gen/rise"

>>712412374
>Wilds peak 1.4M
how
who the fuck are those people

You could be playing MHGU right now

>>712417402
PC gaming has only gotten more and more popular, especially post pandemic. A lot of people who played World on PS4 played Wilds on PC.

>>712417402
im not saying capcom did it, but there was a 100% shill campaign going into wilds
the amount of normalfag attention and hype was... kind of suspicious. If they were like this for wilds, why not world or rise that also came to PC?

someone clearly got people to hype up the game. Just a shame the normalfags now think THIS is MH and not the actual kino we left behind.

this >>712416032 is my worry going forwards from here, basically 2/3 possible outcomes are shit, and even the 1/3 chance we get classic style back at least in SOME form, it will likely be shit too.

Im not going to say wilds isnt fun, it is, but it has no soul. its not MH, its one of those MH knockoffs ironically.

>>712417240
>world was the first step
hahahahahaha seething tendie
4u was the start, then came POOP U aka GU

>>712416959
Qrd?

What did they change about bowguns?

& did they add back in sword & shield oils yet?

>>712416032
>The hope is the devs see this backlash and the NEXT MH, or hopefully the expansion, addresses the fans complaints
the problem is your complaints are completely non-constructive, you just call it shit, different from classic mh and act like that gives them any fucking idea what to do to make you happy

You are not prepared for how shit the next mainline game is going to be when the main thing the producer learned from Wilds is that they need to add more story since that is the reason the game was a massive success

>>712417796
Silence, tribab.

>>712417240
you will never ever be a woman
and rise will never ever be a MH game
cope
seethe
dial8

>>712417796
4U was the start
GU was a step in the right direction
world was 4U 2, in a bad way
rise was a step in the right direction, GU 2
wilds is the natural conclusion to world's success

>>712418048
>b-b-but R-r-r-rise

>>712417796
When will Japs understand that their real overseas fans like Jap shit precisely for the Jap parts?

>>712417796
Your image directly refutes what you're claiming kiddo. He said that they saw many foreigners play 4U, so they made World specifically to cater to the global audience. And then when westerners ate that slop up you reinforced in them that it's the path they should take. The responsibility for Wilds sits on you alone.

world Is garbage and killed the the series
>>712417024
this is the kind of faggot who killed MH

>worldfags have been shitting on risefags for years
>wanted world 2
>got monkey pawed with wilds
>now go full damage control
Heh

>>712417840
>What did they change about bowguns?
Everything. Really dumbed them down, more than world or rise.
>no more ammo levels, all guns now have set ammo levels, aka, ONLY normal 2 or ONLY pierce 3 etc determined by the gun
>some guns let you +1 the ammo level with 1 of 2 mod slots, SOME guns, most just let you add +1 ammo cap
>the 2 mods are lame, they are all either +1 to ammo cap, or a change in the damage of either ammo or the special ammo by 10%, or a boost to special ammo charge rate. Thats it.
>The special ammo is lame
>all ammo caps are shit, think 3-4 ammo tops, so even if you have +1 shot level you only have like 3 shots kek
>no reload skills AT ALL, no skill, deco, armor or mod for it
>same with recoil
>spread forced high recoil, and knockback is bad
>spread no longer has 0 minimum range, now being too close is bad
>pierce tick rate is insane, doesnt really pierce, add in the fact its weak as fuck on non weakspots and you therefore just use it as normal shot
>crafting for slice, clust or sticky nerfed, slice only has 12 shots now
>no power barrel, all guns have shields by default, but there is no power barrel or other add on
There is now a new offset counter on HBG, but
>its an attachment meaning you lose the cluster special shot using it
theres more nitpicks, like Spread/pierce/normal up only being +5% 3-slot decos... yeah.

The LBG has no offset, dodge or perfect guard. rapid fire is now a meter you build and spend, it charges slooooow too so you only rapid fire maybe 1/3rd of the time, unless pierce which charges it faster

theyre lame, no thought, no planning. No identity. No recoil or reload management, no ammo level management, no mods worth a damn, no playstyle changing customisations. theyre bad.

>& did they add back in sword & shield oils yet?
nope, but to be fair SnS is actually really fun in wilds, way more... flowing?

>>712417928
this is a lie, the fanbase is pretty clear on what this issue is.
Maybe spend time reading their reviews instead of pretending you did, retard.

>>712412303 (OP)
honestly? this game fucking sucks. 5 minute hunts (lmao), hammer is unusable, the performance is absolutely fucking laughable (40 fps at 1080p in the forest without framegen with a fuckin 4070SUPER). fuck those incompetent japanese niggers. Rise is a 300% better game, and more fun to play, while World is a masterpiece in comparison. Dont even get me started on the retarded story and copy pasted guardian monsters, those motherfuckers cant even do a full roster right
>>712414552
based

>>712418789
>the fanbase is pretty clear on what this issue is.
yeah, it’s pandering to worldtroons
/thread

>>712418048
you are so mad lmao

>>712417474
couldn't he just like walk to the other zone?

>>712418048
lmao retard, Rise is the best and mechanically engaging MH game ever made

>>712412374
8,500 of those world players are people using monster genitals and huntress slutmog mods, and that is why they are playing.

>>712418827
>copy pasted guardian monsters
wilds is lame, but this is just wrong.
Guardian fights are nothing like their counters, and guardian rathalos is one of the best fights in the game. Guardian dosha is nothing like regular dosha.

Guardian odogaron and anjanath are just their iceborne counterparts, yeah, but those monsters arent in wilds at all so I just see them as any other returning monster, only theyre better here as the guardians have unique mechanics with the wylk and explosions, kind of like molten tigrex. Im glad theyre here and not only in G rank.

We dont need to invent problems when the game has much more obvious ones. Id rather get returning monsters treated like this than just literally copy pasted. Same with say, mizu being a combo of mizu and soulseer.

>>712418940
he could, be he wanted to flex on the hunter

>>712419015
im a child an a nintendo fan, by the way

>>712418789
you wont explain the issue in the entire thread bitching about it though

90% of the negative reviews are performance related which can't be fixed and also it worked fine on my pc

>>712417372
>ez mode
Village Khezu sends his regards
>op hunter
Not as op as in World with your shitty mantles that negate damage and dodge for you automatically
>piss combat
It's different, doesn't make it bad kid
>muh anime moves
Worldbab seething about anime shit in MH will never not be funny
>david and goliath mechanics just shat on
The what now?
>automatic hand holding mechanics
Such as?
>no 'hunting'
Previous games didn't have hunting either, just because you have to press A to smell the fart of a monster it doesn't magically make following the moving quest marker any more of a "hunting"
>no balance
It is quite balanced unless you're about to cry again because end game monsters are too fast for you
>literally no final boss until months in
Actually a good point congrats!
>rampage
The thing you have to do like 3 times throughout the game? Really?

Also Rise didn't use World's engine. Both Rise and Wilds were made with RE engine.

>he bought the high rank MH release
you have only yourself to blame, you were specifically warned that the game would not be complete and be unsatisfyingly easy

>>712412303 (OP)
>looks like shit
>plays like shit
>story sucks my ass
>5 hours worth of content
We need the B team (Rise) to save the franchise.

>>712419170
people have posted concise, non stop feedback since world you dishonest nigger. Go to places that actually review the game and look with your eyes.
why would we post the same arguments for the 400th time on this mongolian basket weaving forum? we dont need to say it because we all know what the issues are, capcom isnt here. it does literally nothing to waste time on a 2000 character limit explaining this stuff to you dishonest retards anyway.
If you cannot see how theyve shaved down MHs identity into a hyper casualised slop, then you dont have the fucking right to earn my time explaining the intricacies of that on some dumb webforum.

>>712419230
lol risefag is really mad about that reply huh

>>712415667
The base games used to be good, but that's been over a decade

>>712412303 (OP)
People that bought Wilds deserve to have their PCs blow from the unoptimized piece of "game"
I'm equally mad and confused that this game sold well, it was obvious to anyone with an IQ above 70 that the game would be a piece of shit
>>712417769
It is very suspicious to me but that might just be me being out of touch with what the niggercattle are up to these days
Remember that capcom cultists don't even qualify as human

>>712419230
ive never played a game before generations or rise by the way!
did I mention nintendo is my only console?

you wouldnt get it, tourist.

>>712418723
Are you really complaining that you can't ROFLMAO spam rapid fire pierce 2 or stickys wherever you want with fast reload and no recoil?

>>712419332
>The base games used to be good
Tri launched with 18 monsters

They should add a meter to focus mode that is depleted when using it and slowly recharges if you don't limiting its usage :^)

>>712419332
true, but then youre wasting time and money since the G-rank game was full price.
I never bothered other than MH1, I think Dos or freedom 1, and of course tri. Ever since then I stopped buying the base games.

>>712419419
no, dishonest nigger, im complaining its not what it used to be like in old MH, I get it needed change for the newer faster pace, thats fine, walk and shoot, fine. But lets not pretend each game following world didnt dumb them down more and more.
Rapid fire pierce 2 with some magic dodge move with damage boost, is also fucking retarded and braindead yes, no one denied that.
why are you children like this? Why cant you be normal and just accept criticism of your fucking games without immediately being an insufferable nigger about it?

The monster hunter fan base will always be faggots, but at least they fund based projects like onimusha and pragmata because they always buy it anyway

>>712417402
first simultaneous mh release on pc
worlds and rise were delayed

>>712419440
Tri Barroth is harder than the whole wilds roster also cause the hunter wasn't that overpowered yet.

>>712419558
they should give the monsters their own focus mode that lets them 100% track you, wound you then one shot you guaranteed. See how you like it you cheating faggots.

I just miss the david and goliath style of, youre just a dude who is slow, weak, vulnerable, fighting a fucking dragon that can kill you easily, but through skill you can dodge and position and slowly wear it down, each flinch feeling impactful.
nu MH is just ayylmao all over it with magic dodges and parries, non stop flinches and no sense of danger. Poor monsters feel like victims, and the only way for them to challenge us now is deliberate artificial difficulty BS

Also, personally, fuck damage numbers. Really changed the feel of the hunt

>>712419642
Hearing the previews for Onimusha assuaged my fears. Thank fuck they didn't make it souls.

>>712419324
>>712419385
Not trying to argue against me then? I'll take it.

>>712419762
this, in rise you can press and instant parry button that lasts a whole 2-3 seconds, and if you are hit at all, not only do you parry but youre immune to the attack forever even if its still actively dragging you across the map when the parry is over.
Youre faster now, have more options, can more easily stun the monster out of moves, every non lance weapon seems to get multiple parries or whatever.
god poor lance, having its one thing stolen away more and more. people keep asking for the 15th weapon, and here I am asking them to remove like 7 of them to refocus on the classics.

>>712419784
>I just miss the david and goliath style of,
This is something I complained about in the survey but I doubt we will ever go back to monsters being a treat from the get go especially with the story making you the top of the class hunter with 300 confirmed kills from the very beginning.

>>712419923
I hate how everything in wilds has an offset, counter or perfect shield. In SB I could at least pick the playstyle I wanted but in wilds they are baked into the weapon moveset.

>>712419586
You're the faggot complaining that they dumbed it down by making you pay attention to recoil now.

>>712419890
okay faggot rise baby
>Village Khezu sends his regards
doesnt change the fact rise is the easiest MH to date and was way, way too easy.
>Not as op as in World with your shitty mantles that negate damage and dodge for you automatically
actual lie, those mantles had cooldown and the most powerful ones were literally endgame. Rise STARTS you with instant frame 1 parries on every weapon, pokemon mechanics, dogs and wirefall for ez heals etc
>It's different, doesn't make it bad kid
no the combat is absolutely brainless slop, it isnt MH anymore.
>Worldbab seething about anime shit in MH will never not be funny
not an argument
>The what now?
if you played old MH, youd understand, heck if you had a brain youd figure out what this meant but here we are... lets make it baby simple for you: old MH the hunter was the weaker, more vulnerable one fighting a giant threat, nu MH especially rise, its you dunking on them while they fail to keep up.
>Such as?
Needs not stating, 2000 character limit and all, but you KNOW how it holds your hand so lets not pretend otherwise.
>Previous games didn't have hunting either, just because you have to press A to smell the fart of a monster it doesn't magically make following the moving quest marker any more of a "hunting"
saying something isnt what it is, doesnt mean it isnt what it is retard. Your issue, risebab, is you HAVE to defend EVERY criticism becuase youre too weak to just accept fact, now you have to pretend rise didnt remove hunting mechanics because there never were any... lmao
>It is quite balanced unless you're about to cry again because end game monsters are too fast for you
objective lie, OP hunters is a fact, as is Rapid pierce LBG. Insta parries etc
>The thing you have to do like 3 times throughout the game? Really?
doesnt mean rampage isnt bad. "its bad but its not bad because you only had to do it 3 times" isnt an argument, especially since rampage was actually needed for rampage gear and the apexes for a while.

>>712419982
the issue isnt even the monsters, its us
the only way to make them a threat to us WITH these mechanics is undodgable attacks, novas, one shots, really weird combots, delayed elden ring hits etc - all videogamey and not really fun

the only other way to do it is to strip us of power and go back to classic limitations - but they wont do that as they somehow think that wouldnt work because they misunderstand the sales figures and just assume that its bad to be slow or limited

plus if they remove them for MH7, normies will bitch about having moves removed. Every game needs to ADD ADD ADD, it can only ever get worse doing that

>>712420583
>plus if they remove them for MH7, normies will bitch about having moves removed. Every game needs to ADD ADD ADD, it can only ever get worse doing that
they removed tons of moves from rise though

>>712420436
>more dishonesty
oh my fucking god these MH tourists are so fucking insufferable
no one said this, anon. They dumbed it down by removing mechanics that let you manage recoil and the whole system of varied recoil.
You always had to "pay attention" to recoil, except maybe rise where every gun could easily reach zero recoil, but we were not talking about rise.

what in the world
how did wilds drop off like that

>>712420629
and people bitched, most of the rise moves were added into the base moveset, and for every one move that wasnt, the weapon got 2 or 3 new moves or mechanics.

people fucking cream over offsets looking cool but they never stopped to think what that meant for the combat, smae with like, GS shoulder tackle, sure its good and makes the weapon more accessible, but then that removed the original GS skill requirements and the positioning and knowledge it demanded.
Most wilds weapons have rise arts baked in, in some form, or some new equivelent.
even so rise moves that were cut were mostly arts, which make sense since that was that games gimmick.

>>712418585
Can you purist autists fuck off already?
You're just as bad as the cancerous normalfaggot cattle, nothing will ever be good enough for you and even the occasional good point out of you is negated by your autistic spergouts over even the smallest thing you deem completely unacceptable

>>712420720
performance.
people will say gameplay but, nah, the people who played world likely did like wilds.
wilds just runs like garbage on anything below a 4080ish card and still is shit on anything above it. It stutters, is choppy, and drops frames on high end PCs, that filters like 80% of the players already
if youre on a 2070 or something, to get it to run decently it has to look WORSE than world, and with framegen fucking up your inputs

its just that bad

>>712420583
They already tried to make monsters stronger. Risen shagaru can shit all over you with all the option it has but part of its difficulty were the delayed explosions designed to fuck counters which I think aren't a good approach. They did now the same with AT rey which didn't make the monster moveset harder but the fight just more tedious.

>>712420837
this, which is why I want the next mh to a compromise between world and 3U.
just give it a try and see how the overall players feel and go from there

>>712412303 (OP)
good, please return to form

>>712420820
>and people bitched, most of the rise moves were added into the base moveset, and for every one move that wasnt, the weapon got 2 or 3 new moves or mechanics.
just based on weapons I know how to play, they cut most of the longsword moves from rise and just added more finishers. They killed morph attack swaxe entirely and added more finishers. They removed blast dash from gunlance and added a different way to fullburst and gave you another fullburst after that. They didn't remove much from chargeblade but they killed saed so now you just play chainsaw axe the whole time which sucks. But chargeblade has been getting worse since 4U anyway. And they completely ruined insect glaive, they fucked over both the air and ground movesets and turned it into an entirely new, worse weapon.

>>712420923
ahh see i was hesitant about the focus mode but the game itself looked fine
i actually held off and by the time i was ready to dive in, i had heard a lot of the negatives.
maybe i'll pick it up when it's "complete" down the road

>>712412303 (OP)
>unoptimized piece of shit
>Denuvo
>overpriced
>ultra-causalized
>shitty art style
>boring ass plot
It's like they didn't learned anything from DD2 failure.

>>712415045
>Switch release when?
Rumao it's not gonna be even playable.
It's shit anyway, you would be better off with Rise 2.

>>712412494
Story is shit and intrusive while the game is too easy even for base game MH.

>mizutsune
>lagi
>seregios
I don't get why they think one mid game monster every 3 months is going to keep the game alive

>>712422554
I fully expect Odo and Anjanath forma norma to be in a update.

>>712412523
It didn't faggot.

It might have generated higher profits than World though.

>>712420720
They recreated World with less content, same graphics and worse performance.

Wilds is an all around bad World

>>712412303 (OP)
can't believe they killed dd2 for this shit

I still don't get why so many people bought Wilds. It's not like Capcom kept the ugly art style, shitty performance and ruined gameplay a secret. There was plenty of demo time provided and even a tool to check just how shitty the game ran yet people still bought Wilds. Fucking why?

>>712412374
As soon as I saw the performance, I knew wilds was destined for this fate.

>>712412303 (OP)
murderer of dd2

>>712413408
This happens every time i decide to buy a game at full price instead of waiting for a sale

>>712412523
>Wilds outsold World

WROOOOOONG
it will never do it.

>>712413901
That's not always true. Souls games are always best at launch before everything is figured out and stuff gets nerfd.

>>712412303 (OP)
It's crazy how they moved devs from every Capcom game (its the reason why SF6 updates slowed down drastically last year and why RE4 and DD2 stopped getting performance updates so fast) to polish this turd and it still runs like shit

>>712412523
If the playercount fell off this hard barely three months after release then I doubt the sales are doing particularly well, and there's absolutely no chance it comes even remotely close to World's lifetime numbers despite the huge headstart. Poor word of mouth is unironically killing Wilds (and deservedly so).

>>712417372
>>david and goliath mechanics just shat on
This wasn't even true with World, I don't know what the fuck you're on

>>712425627
>poor word of mouth
It’s just some group of autists spamming as much as possible across social media, you can manufacture any consensus you want once people stop playing a game

>>712412303 (OP)
Wait what the fuck happened? i remember people were jacking off to wilds's trailers
performance issues? servers dying? mtx?

>>712425747
The small group of autists that left 50k negative reviews on Steam?

>>712425763
Almost all performance issues. It's simply unacceptable.

>>712425747
>you can manufacture any consensus you want once people stop playing a game
It's a fucking Monster Hunter game, if it were good people wouldn't have stopped playing it.

>>712425763
For me it was performance issues primarily. It’s the first game I have ever had to manually change the settings to performance mode and it STILL had slowdown. Shamefully unoptimised.

Additionally, the story was lacklustre with a stupid plot line surrounding artificial monsters, and an annoying brown child that makes up the focus of the plot.

Other than that, it’s minor issues. Short post game. Lack of difficulty. I enjoy it the first half but it’s a big step down from World and Rise.

>>712425898
????
All games have a shelf life, nobody plays any game forever. It’s been out long enough most people did everything

>>712416027
>The benchmark being extremely misleading shouldn't have thrown anyone paying attention. You could see the reqs disclaimer, and you'd know.

I don't think you understand. I did several hours of testing on the benchmark with different settings, and after finding the most optimal, I used the EXACT SAME settings in the release version, and I was experiencing anywhere between 10 to 25 fps lower performance.
This should NEVER happen with a benchmark tool.

>is the best monster hunter game in your path

>>712426080
Does the benchmark tool use denuvo?

>>712425898
>YOU MUST PLAY THE SAME GAME EVERY DAY FOREVER OR IT'S A FLOP
what a retarded mentality
guess world was a flop because people went back to play GU
Same goes for Rise since people went back to play GU/Iceborne

>>712426230

>>712426243
I don't think so not to mention 2/3 of the benchmark tool are cutscenes

>>712426230
>fucked talisman RNG
Sad

>>712426396
>people went back to play GU
never happened
>Same goes for Rise
Yes, Rise is shit. World is the single good game in a dogshit series.

>>712412523
It only had high initial numbers from all the people that bought World over the years buying it at once, and that's only a portion of world player. World has higher overall sales and future MH sales will still be for World.

>>712420443
Most of the shit you blame on rise is ALSO true for World and people did complain about it before it's release and you know what was told to them? They were told to suck it up because it will be the "glorious" future of MH and now we have the casuallization people called out a decade ago crystalized in the series.
So no you don't get to use World to shit on the following games when it is the game responsible for turning the series to shit.

>>712412523
All time peak is higher with Wilds because it had a simultaneous launch with the home consoles.

https://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/business/million.html

But it has no momentum because they casualfied the game to the point where Gen 5 babbies got to experience what everyone else experience with World but they dropped the game.

>>712412374

>>712427761
BUY THE DIP

WILDS G RANK WILL GO TO THE MOOOOON!

I think they fucked it royally in every regard and I say this as someone who started with mhp1 and even really liked world/ib

The graphics even when not clearly glitched as was the case for the entire oil area on launch are poor and blurry. I'm not sure if it's both a style choice but it also seems like the engine isn't as crisp.
Story was atrocious and the characters were incredibly boring or annoying.

All positioning is dead and monsters are constantly staggered. Greatsword gameplay is mindless to the point I didn't have to even look at the screen to know I'm hitting the monster.
Gathering items, capturing monsters, eating for bonuses, picking the correct armour are all pointless. Gathering hub has been dead since sos in world and has gotten even more pointless with ai hunters shitting up lobbies you join so it doesn't even feel like you built a little bond with the person you're playing with.

Monsters aren't really cool in this one or at least they shove these big monsters in small arenas where they just look like blobs... Uth duna and the oil dude just look like blobs of shit even when they render in properly.
All the areas also don't feel as memorable or clearly navigable since it feels like they are just set peices for the sekreit to jump through. Theres an entire high climb area in the desert where you'd think you would have to go to collect a special item or do something up there but there just wasn't ever any reason to. Also the premium deluxe pack offered 2 non released dlc packs and before the second dlc pack has even come out they sold separately another 5 various dlcs... That's fucking disgusting man. Yeah the dlc is pointless but you'd think they could finish off the deluxe dlc before charging more for non included ones. In world the drip fed content after release was criticised but people said well it's the first mh that isn't a ps2 game but what's the excuse this time when the content is coming out even slower than world. Actually depressing

>>712424981
Why wait when key sites exist?

Aren't you guys tired arguing about numbers all the time?
Won't hunting Agnaktors and Hyper Rathaloses in GU be a better use of your time?

>>712426070
>>712426396
It's not just about people who already owned the game having stopped playing, the numbers dropping off this hard also indicates that there are barely any new players coming in to replace them, which absolutely should not be happening while the game is still so new.

>biggest criticism of World is that they made coop with friends un-playable until everybody had completed all of the story missions first
>Wilds comes out
>they made coop with friends un-playable until everybody completed all of the story missions first

Capcom learned nothing. Also what the fuck is all this shit
>Link Parties
>Squads
>Lobbies
>Environment Links
and it was all hidden behind 6 different menu levels in different parts of the UI.

>>712428572
Maps like Gathering hub have objects in the background that would constantly glitch I think cause of LOD. I only noticed this after their recent vram changes.

>>712416032
the devs not listening to retarded niggers like you is a good thing.
the game is a success for capcom, anyone claiming otherwise is a tranny faggot trying to distort reality as tranny faggots always do as a cope mechanism.

modern CAPCOM games just have very little staying power, people literally consume them and move on

>>712428769
The game hit market saturation most games make almost all their sales in the first two weeks this is common knowledge

>>712412374
>>712412523
>Wilds outsold Worl-ACK

>>712428637
this doesn't seem to include the expansion

>>712416032
>The FEAR+1 is that they do go back to classic MH roots, at least half-half, but normalfags who were hyped into buying wilds got so burned by its low quality, that they dont buy the next MH thinking the series is actually kind of boring, and then the devs assume "okay, modern MH sells millions, classic does not! no more classic ever then!"
This won't ever happen because normalfags don't actually care about games, they care about graphics. All my normalfag friends refused to touch Monster Hunter until World came out exclusively because of graphics, when Rise came out they refused to touch it because of graphics, and when Wilds came out the only thing they talked about was graphics and how good/bad they were. They also skip all of the cutscenes and never read dialog, so get fucked Tsujimoto. Gameplay is irrelevant to normalfags. Story is irrelevent to normalfags. Music is irrelevent to normalfags. They only care about graphics.

>>712412303 (OP)
It literally killed the series and only retards are playing it
>can dodge with hammer without losing charge
It's made by people who don't understand MH and want to turn it into Souls like nr 353. On top of it ugly and woke

>>712415045
lmao a 5090 can barely run this turd

>>712412303 (OP)
I had fun with it, there just isn't much reason to grind tempered monsters in the endgame
I'll come back for a bit when Lagi drops, but mostly I'm just waiting for G-Rank to be announced

>>712429454
>there just isn't much reason to grind tempered monsters in the endgame
Turns out RNG decorations are not compelling in any way, shape, or form.

>>712429507
Decos are easy to get in Wilds I’m pretty sure I have all of them. The only grindy things are Titles and Crowns

>>712428868
This is why I liked Rise. Immediate co-op with friends. Went back to the old method to obtain decorations like previous games and not random drops. A combat mixup I enjoyed that wasn't going to be permanent because the non-mainline titles always do their own thing that never sticks around to overstay its welcome.
It's such a shame it somehow got into some Rise vs World contention when one was Mainline and the other wasn't, they weren't ever intended to be competitors, and Rise was never any kind of mainline sequel title. Then it got thrown to the side and set up to tank a negative PR hit from capcom during the World campaign before Wilds released.
Rise got done dirty to prop up Wilds and look where it is now.

>>712412523
all these replies from faggots trying to spin 1 million sales + on pc alone as failure.
you niggers dont really care about video games. youre here just to shill whatever crap gets spammed on the catalog such as gatcha or some gook/chink unreal slop game.

I dont even care much about the performance, I hate that the greedy niggers at capcom are trying to rutn the game into a live service model

>>712429454
Tempered mons are for weapon and talisman guild ticket mats.

>>712429626
>pretty sure I have all of them
There's no incentive to seek better gear, and if you do seek better gear you realize that you already have all the mats to craft it since the first time you hunted that monster you got 20 of every drop and got a dozen more of every decoration.

>Artian Weapons
Why bother when you can show up with meme joke weapons and still <5 minutes the hunt?

>>712412303 (OP)
TU2 is going to fix it
also
>failure
>over 10 million copies sold and counting
i think the game has massive flaws, but you bet your ass Crapcom doesn't think of it that way

>>712419129
niggers still mad Rise is on Switch, amazing

>>712430035
That turned me off in World too. I tried playing it a second time years back and it was in the middle of one of their gay MMO-tier seasonal events, so all the NPCs were wearing gaudy joke alien costumes. Felt like I was playing Final Fantasy. Also
>time limited seasonal/monthly quests
Fuck off with that shit.

>>712430035
They've been doing that shit with the previous two games too
And I also fucking hated it, especially when there's a long ass time between releases, coming back to fight one fucker every couple of months is just fucking ass

>>712430152
Retards don't realize that more often than not the non mainline titles are portable titles, lo and behold the switch was the most popular hand held in Japan during the point in time it came out. It being on anything but the switch would have been surprising.

>>712430327
Rise was particularly egregious
>oh shit we didn't actually finish the game or have a final boss
>lets just add it in months later, yeah

>>712430339
Switch wasn't even a handheld and Switch 2 is even bigger and less handhold-able. Nobody has made handhelds since Nintendo ended the 3DS line. PS Vita was dead over a decade ago.

>>712430393
Yeah, I'm happy I didn't have to play the Switch version or I would have probably been fucking pissed at the base game. At least the expansion was alright, they shat out all the title updates in like 8 months total so you could easily just come back after a short break and do all the content.

>>712430327
at least the general consensus is changing, I was saying this shit when the game released, that there was 0 fucking content and getting shouted down by friends. It took the general normie retards online to hit endgame to finally realise the same thing

>>712430393
>only took two months to add the post-game shit
>roster is massive, mogs most MH games, mogs Wilds, mogs World
>tons of content, fun and challenging event quests, quests for cosmetic shit
>Sunbreak was a fukkin masterpiece
>meanwhile you're still mad playing your 70 dollar tech demo

>>712430798
>IT'S OK WHEN RISE DOES IT

>>712430798
I agree with you and I'm currently re-playing Rise/Sunbreak with a fresh new hunter (male), but I'm not gonna pretend like Rise didn't launch totally unfinished.
>Sunbreak was a fukkin masterpiece
Unceremoniously throwing Rampages into the trash was the best decision they ever made.

>>712430393
At this point I am just waiting for a year before bothering with any of their games. They are never finished at launch any more. That way I get the game for 1/3 the price and get to play a fixed and finished version instead of shitty Live service FOMO time gating.

>>712430915
Man...I'm still waiting for that Dragon's Dogma 2 expansion before I bother playing it....

>>712430084
>and counting
Where?
>>712412374

>>712429674
I hate to break it to you, but the portable games aren't some noncanon spinoff like /v/ desperately wants you to believe. They ate just as "mainline" as the home console/generation-starting titles.

>>712430901
Rise had the fastest patch cycle but at the same time after they added the true ending they dropped the ball. No new monsters just some event quests and costumes.

>>712430982
tons of console sales, i dont even know if those numbers are global. i don't fucking know, check with Crapcom, they're the ones posting the numbers

https://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e250331.html#:~:text=9697%20TSE%20Prime)-,Monster%20Hunter%20Wilds%20Tops%2010%20Million%20Units%20Sold!,2025%2C%20surpassed%2010%20million%20units.

More sauce:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1610884/monster-hunter-wilds-units-sold-global/#:~:text=First%20released%20in%20February%202025,best%2Dselling%20Monster%20Hunter%20series.

https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/monster-hunter-wilds-primarily-drives-net-sales-for-capcom-s-last-quarter

>>712412303 (OP)
This is because of:
A) Performance. Holy fuck what were they thinking releasing it in this state. Then again, it doesn't seem like they have any idea how to fix it. Just bizarre. Should have been rethought right back at the early testing stage.
B) Lack of content. 80+% of the roster is total pushover shitmons. Very little has been added in updates so far.
C) Way too easy and forgiving. Every single new mechanic is yet another huge buff to the players, possibly the second biggest in the series this time (brave style is still the biggest). Even bingbugfall required you to think about when you use it. Now you just just turn on a dime during attacks, positioning barely matters, counter everything more readily than even Rise, get on your bird and it does everything for you, just crazy.
I still enjoyed my time with it though. And it has THE best movement and player animations in video games, it feels simply amazing. Shame it misstepped so many times.

It amazes me that people are still trashing Rise off of the fact that ONE version of the game didn't have the allmother fight for TWO MONTHS when the game has now been out and feature complete for more than FOUR YEARS.

>>712412303 (OP)
Did something happen with the recent update?

>>712430764
I don’t think the general consensus has actually changed just feels like
>normal people finished the game and stopped talking about it
>Autists who’ve been trying to construct a “Wilds failed” narrative for months are the only ones left

>>712431274
>Holy fuck what were they thinking
"It only has to look good on the ps5". And then it crashed multiple times at the showcase with people coping it's an early build they will fix it.

imagine being the people who with a straight face tried to build a "story" for monster hunter wilds only for it to fall flat because no matter how big the threat or how dire the situation, the hunter kills it in 90 seconds tops while it writhes on the floor permastunned

Did they add Lagiacrus yet?

>>712429358
Well duh in the standard edition you don't

>>712431317
The point of these threads is to say Wilds failed and is unsalvageable, so to be consistent you have to cry about Rise too otherwise people will just point out Wilds has only been out for a few months

>>712412303 (OP)
It might be a delayed flop. But that's a concept you need a pretty advanced understanding of time for. Like knowing that right now and next year are two different things.

>>712430393
>Rise
>didn't have a final boss
Tired of this meme
>Fully fleshed out boss at the end of the game with a repeatable fight and full equipment sets doesn't count as a final boss because "muh story"
https://youtu.be/0rk7dVog_ZI

>>712431525
>super deluxe edition promised the first two dlc cosmetic packs as bonus
>didn't contain half of the first dlc drop
Yes this pissed off users too.

>>712431528
If we really want to be consistent, then world having dead-end armor skills that countered ailments which weren't in the game yet or 4U not having G-rank fatty for months should also be on the table.

>>712431515
that's not how you pronounce it

>>712413976
They won't be locked out forever, they'll just add them back in like they did with Worlds next season and then end of game.

>>712416129
They tanked DX11 with the switch from world to iceborne. Because they didn't make use of the Special K fix (seriously who the fuck programs 64 active threads when the average is a 4 core 1 thread CPU at the time) it was at that use permanently, just stable this time around.

>>712431525
50 euros for one year old or older game is still a robbery.

>>712431525
deluxe doesn't include the expansion either

>>712413901
With some stuff it's nice to be there in the first wave of people who are playing it, so you can be part in the discussion and call people retards who have different opinions than you.
And don't tell me that that's something you don't care about when you're here on /v/ right now.

Something tells me Wilds getting "Mostly Negative" scores has nothing to do with the gripes /v/ermin have about it not being like World and probably some weird game-breaking bugs or something, but shills will co-opt that to suit their gay agendas that don't matter.

>>712416959
Second TU isn't even out yet

>>712431170
I'm not questioning the "10 million sales" part, I'm questioning the "and counting" part. If there are indeed still a significant number of people buying the game then why are they apparently not playing it?

>>712431274
The game running like shit on modern systems and completely isolating lower end rigs was such a stupid move. (and frankly, going off DD2, sheer modern dev incompetence) Especially when it doesn't look much (if any) better than world, and that runs fine on 10 year old systems.
It's like World's success gave them this impression the franchise was on a higher level than it ever was.

>>712431493
Probably why almost every story before then was just
>help, monster is acting up go smack it
>wait, it was this bigger monster, go fuck it up too
They just had to go and needlessly complicated a series that was very much so traditionally self explanatory. See monster, hunt monster.

>>712412374
And we know the reason for Wilds lack of enthusiasm is because of the game's absolute hog on resources. If they've made it more optimized that wouldn't have happened

>>712431914
It just runs like shit, might be the worst optimized game of all time, there's not much more to it

>>712415595
>What actually matters is the MASSIVE damange to the Monster Hunter brand

No lol, no company gives a shit about long term plans, all it matters is short term greedy gains that will obviously ruin everything for the retards who are unfortunate enough to be still alive in the future
You think the capcom ceo gives a shit about MH? He'll be somewhere else by the time that becomes a problem

>>712426230
>best roster
>best maps
>no easy gimmicks like mounting
>last actually hard flagship
absolutely

>>712417402
after world monster hunter was basically cod or fifa but from japan

>>712419419
That'll teach you to listen to or care about g*nner issues

>>712431914
I went to look at the recent steam reviews and it seems something they introduced in the recent update has made the game run even worse in addition to causing some people repeated crashes.

>>712432165
>no company gives a shit about long term plans
Nintendo does. Which is how they're consistently the best with nothing ever coming remotely close

>>712412523
>Wilds outsold World
it hasn't even outsold iceborne yet

>>712421138
if its anything like world, it will probably be running better next year or whatever.
From all evidence this was a rushed out game, wasnt even supposed to be out in 2024 as far as I can tell, my best guess is it was a late spring / summer 2025 game. Based on the content in the files and such

obviously its shitty of capcom to presumably force them to drop the game 5ish months early, and thats also not a guarantee they will fix up the games performance, but, its objectively running worse than it should, im sure it will be better in a few months to a year.
/v/ will shit on the gameplay but, its not that bad, game is evidently fun to most people and /v/ still put in their 100+ hours. Not the best experience if youre an old timer like me but im not going to pretend its an insult to MH or disgusting to play, offsetting a crashing rey dau while lightning blares and music explodes is, and always has been, fucking thrilling - even if its not my ideal MH combat.

>still no classic collection on steam
>still no stories 3

>>712432207
This is just a modern gaming problem with how many retards exist with with a PC or console now. Anything with marketing gets a huge launch base, dies down to a comparatively miniscule baseline a bit later, and then faggots on /v/ make chart threads constantly for every single game acting like it's not a predictable pattern by now.

>>712432325
it wasn't out in 2024 :)

>>712431914
it's just not a very good game dude

>>712432325
The game runs like shit because it's using the RE engine and that completely hamstrings CPU performance. The only way this gets fixed is a rewrite of how it works just for this game so it isn't happening.

>>712429276
capcom more like capfotm

>>712432035
the 10m mark was posted not too long ago, so it's reasonable to assume there's still sales being driven. as for people not playing it, who the fuck knows. it's the same case with Steam games, you know how games are huge blockbusters and achievements reveal how people basically boot the game up once and never again

>>712431914
Why not you just read them yourself instead of making this faggy post? The reviews are public, just fucking look at them if you want to know what people are actually saying.

>>712432559
If people were buying the game they'd be playing the game

>>712432559
stop trying to reason with that retard

>>712412374
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-CK

>>712420720
runs like shit and is braindead easy

My favorite part of wilds being dogshit is that world players being forced to go through the exact same thing that everyone else went through with World.

But they still have zero self awareness to realize that they are the reason why Wilds is shut

>le purists autists
this is a badge of honor, you worldniggers need to be put against the wall, gtfo and stop ruining our games

>>712412303 (OP)
It's just a shit game. And the terrible performance was the shit cherry on top. Bummer

>>712432804
Don't worry they will blame rise and re engine cause world remains their holy grail

>>712416129
>>712416390
>>712416689
This cope doesn't work btw. World on a base PS4 looks better than Wilds on a PS5 Pro so the poor performance on the forme is at least justified.

>>712412374
>Game is unplayable for half the community
>gee, I wonder why this flopped

>>712412374
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>712412303 (OP)
it sucks ass,
but i kinda expected it, will take 1 or 2 years of patches and 1 expansion to make it good.

>>712432942
I’ve seen worldfags do this while admitting they never touched/couldn’t play more than a couple hours of classic and still act like they’re the actual true MH fanbase. I hope they suffer in an agonizing eternal hell

>>712432045
Is it even possible for them fix it? At this point it feels like these systems are relied on to such an integral extent that they've simply shot themselves in the foot and are now bleeding out.

>>712432942
>blame rise
Of course nu /v/ hates Rise it's not cinematic enough for them

Wilds has taught the devs that a compelling story is what makes monster hunter sell. The moment the story ends there is a major player drop-off. So all games from now on will remove optional hunts that nobody plays and make it entirely a 100 hour cinematic experience

Playing Freedom Unite and I just want to say Lao Shan Lung is stinky.
That's all.

>>712433405
>compelling story is what makes monster hunter sell
Uh?

>>712418363
con man may not be at capcom any more but him wanting to cater to westerners still lingers to this day

>>712433523
hi flyann

>>712433247
rise has the benefit of being the portable entry where the team can experiment, world and wilds are the games that set the standard for for future games which is ripping out all MHs identity and casualizing it for the AAA normalfag market

>>712433586
That's what Capcom's head honcho said

>>712433716
well maybe he would be right if capcom actually fucking tried with it

>>712433405
>t. capcom executives

>>712433643
At least i can play MHGU forever

Priorities for making a good Monster Hunter game
1. Nintendo platform release

>>712433716
>their crapcom ID locked survey resulted with most people voting gameplay as most important point
>they are now a MHWilds relates survey where you can rate the story as well
Given what I generally read about the story even outside of this shithole I'd suspect the results won't have good ratings for it. They'll probably still end up doing the opposite of the results cause they know it better.

Wilds will 100% outsell World. Especially after the expansion and it's been out for the same amount of time. You're fucking delusional if you think otherwise and need to consider noose.

>>712412303 (OP)
fuck this game, wake me up when they make a pc port of GU

>>712412303 (OP)
This fucking game optimization is so bad it needs to be studied, everytime I play it, it runs "fine" for me since I have a good PC but I can hear my computer screaming in pain. Having 2 anti-cheat programs running in the background probably doesn't help either.
Also idk what the fuck is going on in the background that every minor patch makes the game crash for half the players, the code must be fucking spaghetti.

>>712434440
That's nice, but you retards never account for player count inflation. Every new title out performs the previous, and in general player counts and sales have done nothing but increase over the last 30 years at a steady rate on average.

>>712434440
I anticipate Wilds will sell ~18-20 mill after expansions and such, World was a fluke of timing

Rise and World (- Clutch Shit) are kino
Wilds is ugly shit

>>712434090
If they just kept building upon GU we’d be feasting on pure kino

>>712434683
>>712434690
Wilds will be at 20 million by the end of year anons. 20-25 by the time the expansion drops. Stop the delusion

>>712434706
You can wirebug after the explosion from zero sum?

>>712434572
The game runs "OK" on a 9800x3d/5090 while not fully utilising them but that's the best hardware on the market and way too expensive for most. The 50 series in general was barely an improvement over the 40 and if this trend continues it will take a decade before people can affordable run wilds.

>>712434987
It's pretty much default bnb yeah.

>>712435242
I have something close to 400 hours in rise most of it switch axe and didn't know you could do that. Guess I'm just a retard.

>>712429315
>rise sold 17m
consoomers should be executed

>>712429315
>rise sold 17m
based consumers

>>712435145
Wilds is the new Crysis at this point, except instead of pushing graphical fidelity it just pushes layers of bloated middleware and broken asset streaming. The fact that it *still* doesn't fully utilize hardware that powerful just proves how unoptimized the engine is. Capcom really needs to stop trying to brute force shit with horsepower and actually focus on streamlining their code. At this rate, a mid-range GPU from 2030 might finally run it at stable 60fps without melting.

>>712435632
Just want to let you know that you're a disgrace of a human being.

>>712412494
New update bricked saves for some people that modified their save file

>>712435753
I think the texture streaming is one of the worst things. Cpu will sit at 40% and then when textures load spike to 70%. Some say they are doing the texture decompression on the CPU and as results you have crappy 1 and 0.1% lows.

>>712435753
Cyberpunk and its full ray/path tracing autism is already the new Crysis, it's actually doing things with its engine and no current GPU can run it in native 4k at full settings. Wilds didn't push the envelope at all, it's just optimized like ass and unnecessarily heavy on the CPU.

My friend really tried to convince me to pick this garbage up when I bought Rise on sale instead

Why the fuck does Wilds have two DRMs? No wonder it runs like shit.

>>712437154
Nips are really autistic
I remember World having that retarded constant CRC check running in the background that would easily hog half your CPU for no reason. Apparently it was some anticheat thing. It was circumvented day one, lmao.

It's got okay bones, but their content team is beyond retarded. MonHun and the ARPG Phantasy Stars are like my favorite IPs and the companies who run them make me want to swan dive into a wood chipper. Some competent indie devs need to outright steal 90% of classic MonHun DNA and do their own to help fill the void

>>712412523
Weak shitpost but Worldborne is at 35 million. By the time Wildsborne hits 35 mill (well IF) then Worldborne will be at 50mill.

>>712412374
>worldsperms are poor turdworlder
LOL LMAO EVEN

>>712412374
These numbers mean nothing to someone who has played both games
Having mass appeal doesn't make something good.
World is an incredible game, Wilds is just "allright". You've done all the content there is in about 40 hours with wilds and there's no challenge whatsoever.
Wilds is still far away from a good game, it needs at least triple the content it currently has, more monsters, more armour sets, more weapons, master rank. It doesn't even have content to strive towards, sure, Artian weapons, but the means to get them is just regular shit.
Rise's anomalies, Primo Malzeno, Risen elders, MHWorld's Safi'Jiiva / Kulve Taroth, Alatreon and Fatalis, there's absolutely none of it in Wilds.

>>712437473
It's a PvE game. Why do they even care about cheaters?

>>712438739
Cheaters and modders damage your product's reputation online or some shit. They recently did a presentation on this. Nude Chun-Li broke those slanty eyed fucks.

>>712412303 (OP)
>Recent reviews
Don't care. Sold better than any garbage snoy puts out

>>712438739
Japanese autism. They want you to experience the game as they intended.

>>712438589
*forgot guiding lands

I like how I can quickly triple cart to end the quest if I spot someone hacking. It's like I still have some power over things.
They're going to take that away eventually aren't they

>>712412303 (OP)
Good
Well deserved
Next time no gender ambiguous shitskins

>>712438739
Dunno but they're about to go on a banning spree for people that unlocked event armor early. I'd be surprised if it isn't at least contributing to the wave of negative reviews.

>>712439971
If they want to be so protective of their GaaS dripfeed schedule, why not just wait to implement the content immediately before?

>>712419230
>Village Khezu sends his regards
Can someone explain this? What was so special about the village Khezu in Rise?

>>712440450
Absolutely nothing. He was as easy as ever

>>712439971
This is the REAL reason Wilds is such garbage

Does the suspension bar you completely from playing the game or just online?

>>712440551
>as easy as ever
I wouldn't say "as ever." I struggled with him a fair deal back in FU.

>>712415595
I want to point out that prior to wilds releasing world and rise had more players combined than post wilds launch wilds + world + rise

Wilds actually did damage the brand

>>712440450
he's referring to an incident where a journalist/e-celeb/souls veteran was getting raped by village khezu as if any normal human would have any trouble with it

>>712432684
>Every monster dies in 5 minutes, fights so easy that they're boring and feel samey even if the monster movesets are different because in the end they are just flailing animals on the ground for most of the hunt
>The story is over and you killed the king dragon in just 15 hours of playtime
>No reason to farm in endgame anyway cause even the highest tier monsters are all that impressive
>4 months after release they have added a total of literally just ONE monster to the roster and presumably they'll add ONE other guy at the end of this month, woohoo
>No reason to explore any of the maps or anything interesting beside just auto riding the monsters and farming them, even though farming is easier than ever and there's no reason to do it since the game is so easy already and if you wanna hunt for fun your only options are like 3 monsters


This game gives people 0 reason to keep them coming back and normalfags have been exposed to a bastardization of Monster Hunter that has nothing to do with the reputation the series has until now, no wonder the playerbase has died off so fast.

Call me a nigger for bringing up e-celebs, but if you see streamers and their playthroughs of MHWorld, you'll see that on average it takes them 5-6 streams or so to be done with the game, for MHWilds most streamers did 2-3 streams and then they forgot about it inmediately, the contet of the game is that underwhelming.

>>712440450
https://youtu.be/xt5yBib9Zas

>>712432045
there was no reason for them to switch engines

>>712415595
people are too obsessed to not buy every single title. Even if you shit in their mouth they will still stick up with it for a few more titles hoping its a 'return to form'

>>712416032
it sold well because you niggers bought it. Exact same thing as DD2

>>712412690

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

Do you usually paint your face white and wear a red nose for work?

>>712440659
Just the online, I believe. But people were putting up quests with modified drop tables to acquire these items so it was possible to accidentally acquire them early if you joined one of those investigations so it remains to be seen how many people will be catching strays.

>>712432045
This is the most plausible reason for
>millions and millions of sales
>player count drops to less than 100 people a day after launch

>>712439971
So why do they care now but didn't give a shit when everyone was getting star knight armor early in 4U?

>>712440769
>Every monster dies in 5 minutes, fights so easy that they're boring and feel samey even if the monster movesets are different because in the end they are just flailing animals on the ground for most of the hunt
The thing is this is sort of the case with every game once you get good enough the problem with wilds is even executing the act of shitting on a perma toppled monster isn’t as fun as the old games because FUCKING FOCUS MODE means every single fucking weapon behaves the same. Think about it, when on a stationary target, in the old games, you still had to work around your weapon’s capabilities to whale on a barely moving target. You were still engaging with the actual fucking game. Now every single weapon is point and click garbage.

>>712412374
This is the MH equivalent of RE6. Sells a lot but does irreparable damage to the brand.

>>712441074
Cause that one retard with a naked chun-li mod in the SF6 tournament embarrassed them publicly.

>>712441074
4U was a completed game.

>>712440897
Wilds sold “well” (it didn’t, it launched well) because it’s the sequel to capcom’s best selling game in their entire catalogue, are you dumb.

>>712441197
>Think about it, when on a stationary target, in the old games, you still had to work around your weapon’s capabilities to whale on a barely moving target.
Not really? You just make your character face the head, focus mode barely does anything if a monster is down

>>712441304
Yeah this faggot has never played a pre wilds monster hunter game, even the act of making your character face a specific direction is more involved when you don’t fucking have a reticle

>>712441074
Naked chun is just half of the truth. Mods have caused a constant stream of bug reports and "my game isn't working" posts after every patch release and it takes resources to handle this which cost money.

>>712432045
Plenty of people who are perfectly capable of running the game just fine have lost all interest too. The performance issues are a convenient scapegoat but the game itself is also just kind of shit.

>>712433405
I made sure to say that it added nothing in the survey and i hope lots of othet anons did too

>>712441304
This is just wrong, even the most basic example of crit draw greatsword:
>pre wilds
Run to head
Hunter has to face monster
Account for the monster doing the stagger head bob
Charge and attack
>wilds
Run to head
Attack

You don’t even need to position your hunter as facing the right way, you only need to vaguely be in the vicinity, focus will take care of the rest even mid swing

>>712441550
>Mods have caused a constant stream of bug reports and "my game isn't working" posts after every patch release and it takes resources to handle this which cost money.
I hate people that mod their shit irresponsibly and then get pissy when shit break. How fucking hard is it to keep a few manually backup saves and clear out your mods before updating the game?

>this thread
>blah blah blah game design blah blah blah casual pandering
the game got review bombed because the perfs and graphics are horrendous, and the average pajeet or chink can't run it lmao. nothing more.

>>712440668
Once you realise you can block everything but the projectiles you just grab a gunlance and poke, poke boom

>>712441729
How the fuck are you running to the monster without facing it and why would “use focus to line up attack” not be part of the process in Wilds? Also really the “erratic head bob” applies to like Alatreon in Tri only

>>712441282
you are not different to the Hogwarts trannies.
Why should Capcom care about backlash. There is some kind of drama for a game every week, all you have to do is make an okay sign or mention Taiwan or ship with an anti cheat protection. None of these tirades affect sales.

>>712441197
you could reach this level of perfectionism in old game by GETTING GOOD
in wilds even the most braindead unoptimal faggot rapes all monsters

>>712441773
That people haven't learned a single thing in 8 years just shows how beyond retarded they are. I don't even know how they managed to mod the game in first place. No surprise cracpom went for videos showcasing mods as they probably had tutorials attached to them.

>>712433643
IDK where the fuck the "portable is experimental" comes from. The changes World and Wilds made were several factors more sweeping and experimental than any of the craziest things the portable team ever did.

>>712432579
the reviews support what he's saying, kek

>>712442094
>How the fuck are you running to the monster without facing it
NTA but most of the time you have to run across the monster and then readjust once you get to the weakzone.
>and why would “use focus to line up attack” not be part of the process in Wilds?
Because focus mode pretty much IS the attack, minimal player input is required once you've activated it
>Also really the “erratic head bob” applies to like Alatreon in Tri only
Fuck off,
>pretty much all brute wyverns
>piscine wyverns
>any monster that uses the Kush skeleton
just a few examples of erratic head movement.

>>712412303 (OP)
It's really a complete mystery why.

>>712442008
both are true and both are valid fr

>>712442253
Its all these new mod managers. Before, you required at least a modicum of knowledge to install and configure a mod, now people are using shit like nexus, thunderstore or curseforge that do all the work for you opening up modding to a whole new wave of retards.

>>712412374
It's amazing that Capcom still tricked all those people to buy the game at launch in spite of the two awful play tests. Gamers are dumb goy.

>>712442094
>How the fuck are you running to the monster without facing it
Are you perhaps, Indian? Any time you run from the hind section of the monster to the head you aren’t directly point square on the head, especially if it’s a monster with wings in the way.
>why would use focus to line up an attack not be counted
Because it’s not fucking gameplay. Mobile games require more precision than this. It’s practically auto aim. Using focus to completely reposition your character is not engaging. It’s a third person shooter where your target covers 80% of your screen.

There’s a fucking reason no other game uses this control scheme, when both twin stick controls and third person action games have existed for decades now. You think other devs didn’t try this shit? No, they did and they canned it because it fucking SUCKS. This isn’t even the first time capcom tried reinventing the wheel with an awful third person aiming system that is wholly unique to their own games: resident evil 6’s wack ass combat is the closest thing to fucking focus mode.

>>712412303 (OP)
You're a failure

>>712432207
fuck you mean after world?
monhun has always been huge in japan they even have a holiday for it since salarymen have been taking sick leaves every time a new game drops

>>712438589
There was none of any of that in World and Rise at this point in their release cycle either. Wilds is dogshit but at least compare them base game to base game. World TU1 was Deviljho and Rise TU1 was the Dos Elders.

>>712442807
It’s also like lost planet which also sucks

Just port the classic titles to steam capcom,, I will literally pay 40$ for next to no effort on your part

Wilds was so bad it made me install GU.

>>712416959
>bowgun was fun
>casualising it down
get real

>>712412374
trading short term for success over longterm is a bad business strategy

>>712412374
Holy fuck, a whopping one million more players?

>>712412374
it's really simple
World has more content
therefore, it's more replayable

>>712412303 (OP)
Sadly they've already made enough money to not care. Next mainline monhun will do exactly the same thing, hype shit up via infulencers so much that any complaint is brushed off with based on their reputation, make people preorder blindly and then immediately move on. Long-term damage is completely irrelevant.

>>712419419
It should be an option to build toward

>>712444070
And about 25 million less sales

Funnily enough, Sunbreak also broke 10M recently and people have noticed that rooms for it on PS5 and Xbox have been way more active. GU is very active too at the moment. So yeah, Wilds was THAT disappointing.

I should also jump back and start a new file on GU to progress with different weapons.

>>712442362
please seek help, stop erping in your mhworld gathering hub and get the help you so desperately need

>>712444531
Only reason I haven’t played more GU is I’m expecting a pc port

>>712444681
Never gonna happen. The casual audience are incapable of adapting to older titles.

>>712444097
That’s not really true. Wilds has been stuck at 10mil sales for like two fucking months. If you’re some investor and you see the sequel to your best selling game stuck this badly you’re pretty upset. Especially since the first weekend sales were similar to wukong, which ended up at 30 mil + sales, which is where wilds should be

>>712412303 (OP)
>Tiny Roster
>No player housing
>Zero challenge

What were they thinking?

>>712444841
>never gonna happen
This is capcom they re-release everything in their catalogue multiple times over are you a newfag or what

>>712444841
Oh, and all the collabs with different IPs might be an issue because of licensing bs. Especially on the Nintendo side.

>>712444953
They won't do it because they see MH as a live service game and don't want to compete with themselves (they'd shut World down if they thought they could get away with it).

>>712445128
You are retarded. Live service games do crossovers all the time especially within a company’s brand. It’s the most common promotion. Playing GU gives you some skin or some shit

>>712417474
Do you by any chance have the webm of the paulumo fucking off only for the edgy dog to leap a mile into the air and bring it back down?

>>712445128
they had frontier, shut the fuck up

>>712443053
But were people as autistic about the lack of content with World or Rise when they released?

Come home, hunter man.

>>712445406
Old players, yeah. New players not so much because the content was enough to challenge them despite being piss easy too.
There are far fewer brand new players in Wilds because everyone played World already.

>>712445406
With Rise? Yes. The game was unfinished due to Covid, but ended up will all the supposed base content after 2 months. With World? Yes for the vets, no to somewhat for the worldbabies.

>>712445554
>3 fingers
ai?

>>712438897
Fake ass excuses. Might as well ban all fanarts. They just want to sell cosmetics.

>>712445554
i'm liking it a lot just on style alone, the music is great, the gameplay is very fluid, love the aesthetics as a whole, i think maybe the gameplay feels a bit better than world but i heard the endgame kinda sucks?

>>712443053
>>712445406
We are exactly 100 days out from the release of Wilds. Here's the world release schedule for comparison.

>>712445741
Base game endgame is whatever
Sunbreak endgame can be kinda autistic, you basically have to grind 300 monster strength levels but if you feel it's taking too long, you can always mod that shit

>>712412523
japanese game dev thinking in a nutshell

>>712445691
They're wyverians anon, they only have 4 fingers.

>>712445858
yeah that's what i heard, endgame has a very long grind (i don't mind i like games to last long) but that you have to go around the map catching the bird thingies too to fight any endgame monster?

>>712445741
The endgame of base Rise is not important anymore. Anomaly quests from Sunbreak are pretty good and offer a very good challenge. There's a lot of monsters to hunt in the game in general. The only thing they should have done better was Qurio crafting.

>>712412303 (OP)
not sure what they were thinking making it so short, the forced cutscenes padded it even further, they cut down on the length of all of the traditional gameplay loops as well, they made monster hunter lite and sold it as monster hunter world 2, we were bamboozled, pard.

>>712419558
>focus mode
They should delete this worthless mechanic entirely and just make the benefits it gives standard to combat. It's a useless extraneous thing that gives no value to the game.

>>712431857
True, but with this game it was the opposite. Calling everyone that bought the game full price retards and watching them cope about it was priceless. Same for DD2. Seeing all the enthusiasm and hype for the game measurably drain day after day until the despair finally hit was bliss kek

>>712446029
Not really.
There are fights where they want you to be fully buffed so they just spawn a fat fucking bird right at the start that maxes out your stats. For anything else, you can just ignore it, or just collect as many as you can on your way to the monster if you decide not to spawn right next to it. That doesn't take more than a minute. And even then, there's a rank 1 decoration that spawns a bird right next to you once per minute. And if that's too annoying to you or you feel like it's too hard or something, you can also just use a mod to make the fat bird spawn at the start of every mission.

>>712445741
I liked it more than world between the aesthetics, themes, decorations being managed better, and how easily I could play with a friend, but i also won't deny the very end game can get kinda fucky with the grind if you want to min max your skills, but some people like that kind of thing.
Rampages are also a negative, but thankfully Sunbreak prunes those.

>>712446029
>but that you have to go around the map catching the bird thingies too to fight any endgame monster?
Basically any map which isn't an arena has these birds which give permanent buffs to HP/Stamina/Def/Attack etc dotted around the map. Some endgame monsters can easily one tap you without the HP buff but you mostly fight those ones in arenas where there is a bird which gives you the max HP buff anyways.

>>712445406
No, but I think a large part of that is the way the games are structured. World was different from old MH in a lot of ways but it at least had the traditional optional quests so as you played and climbed through the ranks there were a bunch of optional hunts for you to clear off your quest board at each rank.
Wilds does away with most of that so you're really just beelining through the shitty story the entire time until you hit the end.

>best selling game way already heavy casualized with a bunch of "qol" stuff and focus on the stroy for mass appeal
>didn't think they were going to double down to try and appeal even more to the masses
Huge performance issues aside, are you faggots unironically retarded?

>>712446424
>>712446406
>>712446375
thanks bros, i will keep enjoying rise, thanks for the clarification

>>712445406
Rise is still lambasted for the first 2 months of the switch release to this day.

Waiting for the Switch 2 MH

>>712445741
The sunbreak endgame is a good case of the destination being better than the journey. Special Investigations are some of the best hunts in the series, but the amount of grind to reach them can be overwhelming.

>>712445554
I wish I could like it but I really dislike how generically japanese the aesthetic feels compared to portable third which felt like it was japanese stuff passed through a monster hunter filter and slightly more like it's own thing that belonged in the universe.

>>712447301
That's really the only reason I'm hoping the Switch 2 does well, given Japan loves their handheld MH. Just the very nature of it being a Switch 2 game means it would eliminate most of the problems of performance when it gets a port and if it takes the same general direction as rise and older games for the story, all the better.

>>712445750
What the hell is that fucked formatting lol
Not reading that shit, but I'll just assume I'm right about Wilds being bad.

>>712447301
Why? It's going to more Wilds.

>>712415164

Talking of Wilds as a sequel to World or any previous game in the series is a fuckin insult to intelligence

>>712412303 (OP)
Yeah, they cashed in the goodwill built over decades for immediate profit and now they have nothing left.

The franchise is corpse.

>>712412970
>fat of the gameplay
>tedious grind
>shallow and boring experience
The "tedious" grind WAS the fun of Monster Hunter games because the pure gameplay for hunting monsters used to be incredibly fun. Wilds just isn't there yet so the main part of the what makes the entire series fun is mid making the whole game mid on top of its "cinematic" presentation and bad performance with terrible optimization.

Lived kong enough to see monster hunter be about its... ahem incredible story, & become non positioning based gameplay & open world all at once. Even got wild in the title so normal fags think of breath of the wild. Couldn't make this shit up if I wanted to. I hate capcom

I recently played 4U and Tri and I understand the gripes of Monhun oldfags now. I find the gameplay ironically more compelling and dopamine inducing than Wilds' animu moves. The monsters also can easily kill you if you're not careful. I never once failed a mission in Wilds but I have multiple times in Tri.

>>712429157

It will never sell like World or Rise, corporate cuck like you are delusional

>>712416218

Corporate shill

>>712417372

Rise used RE Engine instead of MT Framework

>>712415595
sorry, but people like you talked massive amounts of shit about Rise and look at where we are now. MH prints money now, doesn't matter how much you want to doompost to look like an ebin critical gaymur, and the negative reviews on Steam are vocal minorities. people will ALWAYS buy recognizable brand slop because it's the new thing. next MH we're getting will be another fully voice acted shitty on-rails jap storyfest and guess what, you're gonna buy it too

>>712445750
This list is missing tempered DJ event which was technically their first AT (speed increase, same stat modifiers, metallic colour)

18 monsters total throughout Worlds update cycles. Before 100 days we had Kulve endgame grind added. Yeah Wilds doesn't stand a chance and World was still annoying with it's dripfeed.

4U>=3U>GU>P3rd>FU>power gap>Risebreak>big power gap>Worldborne>power gap>Wilds

The rest are either lesser high rank games or unplayable

>>712452802
>>712452802
>4U>=3U>GU
that's cap

>>712452802
Why doesn't Capcom port GU to PC? Are they retarded?

>>712451704
The fact Rise and Wilds use the same engine is insane given the disparity in performance. Unless all the problems with it are precisely because they bloated it to such an obscene extreme with jap spaghetti code.

>>712453551
It's gotta be something to do with map size, DD2 shat itself for the same reason.

>>712453551
Rise was made with limitations
Wilds just ran on QA and they said: ship it

>>712453551
Gotta put a trillion polygons on the most pointless shit ever.

>>712453637
Nothing to do with the map size. Both it and DD2 have shit coding for NPCs and layers of DRM and anti cheat built in (Enigma etc). Couple these things with the fact that shitcom outsourced development to fucking bugs and street shitters and you've got the perfect storm.

>>712412374
OH NO NO NO CAPKEKS

>>712446371
This is what fomofags don’t get. It unironically is peak enjoyment. Not when just because you can make fun of retards but you never have to do the mental gymnastics buyer’s remorse song and dance.

If you don’t buy slop you never have to spend mental energy going well actually I really like this game I dropped 100 hours earlier than previous games in the series because something something content something something something streamlining two more weeks maybe it will be good haha

>>712452902
It's fr blud

>>712453550
I think they'll do it between Wilds last update and the expansion
Along with, Allah willing, 3U and 4U HD

>>712453550
Yes. At this point though, I don't know if I would trust capcom to not fuck up a pre world MH Collection or porting specific games to PC.

Monster Hunter was never good

>>712446371
No it’s more like
>everyone has fun
>autists try to shit up threads but are outnumbered
>people finish the game
>autists are now a larger portion of the threads
>eventually autists are the only ones left
>”we fucking won bros”

>>712454260
Wipe your ass

>>712454260
you lost

>>712454260
>everyone has fun
No, that’s what’s hilarious. People were not having fun. They were losing their minds trying to justify their buyer’s remorse. If the game was fun, it would’ve retained players.

It’s Occam’s razor

Both world and wilds suck

>>712446371
Wilds is the first Monster Hunter I played so I don't get the so called despair you're talking about.

>>712454391
>Occam’s razor
Everyone finished the game

>Autist’s razor
AS YOU SEE BY THE STEAM CHART

>>712454478
>everyone finished the game
Not even half reached high rank if you look at achievements.

Occam’s razor: it’s a bad game

>>712419419

Recoil and Deviation jewel were present in FU too, retarded

>>712429315
Risechads can't stop winning, you can apologize now.

>>712412374
lol

>>712454457
You're unironically in the nest position
Literally every other monhun made is better than Wilds
It's all uphill from here

>>712454478
Game has never had positive user reviews it started as mixed and only slid down and down into “overwhelmingly negative” but yeah everyone had so much fun

>>712429315
>This kills the Steamchart trannies
SalesGODs always win.

I find it funny how the only ones who say animu moves are worldtrannies who go back and play older games and now want to larp as classichads

>>712454661
*best position

>>712454457
That's like Resident Evil 6 being your first RE game. You poor soul.

Runs like shit
Small as shit roster
No true elder dragons
Arkveld,Gore and the Equal Dragon Weapon were kino but they are just 3 monsters (and also 30% of the game roster)

>>712412374
That there is the survivor bias, flash in the pan kind of success that comes with PC these days.

>>712412303 (OP)
Everyone with a brain knew milds was going to be trash.
Trust in the B team to bring us kino with their switch 2 game

>>712454541
>Not even half reached high rank if you look at achievements.
Is this your first time looking at Steam achievements?

>>712454541
but 63% got the achievement for beating high rank arkveld in the last story mission? The game is pretty fucking wank and I wish I hadn't bought it at launch but 63% over the finish line is pretty impressive

>>712419232

When you buy a game you want it to be somewhat complete, you can't believe the corporate shit and expect to have a complete product only with the expansion release, retarded cuck

>>712449335
I think something in between MH4U and MHWorld would be ideal for my personal enjoyment.

>>712446371
>Seeing all the enthusiasm and hype for the game measurably drain day after day until the despair finally hit was bliss
You could probably go into the archives and screencap the posts into a daily collage to prove this. Dragons dogma 2 was such an enormous fuck up that it really needs to be studied and documented so others can avoid the same dev mistakes. I don't know if even a huge dlc would fix it.

>>712455219
Is it yours?

>>712454478
>Autist’s razor
kek

>>712417474
I've finished it 5 times already

Someone redpill me on wilds. I have a MH itch but never touched sunbreak nor Iceborne. Should I play those instead? For the record I enjoyed rise more than world.

>>712455034
NTA, but I had a friend do that to me recently, I feel abused.

>>712455869
both are MUUUUUUUCH better than wilds

>>712455869
Yes. Don't bother with Wilds until the expansion is out AND you have a 6090

>>712455869
Sunbreak > Iceborne

>>712455934
>>712455956
Gotcha

>>712420720
worldthirdies can't run wilds
if it was optimized to run on toasters it would have been beating world because its exactly what worldthirdies want out of monhan

>>712456039
No consumer grade PC runs wilds adequately, a 5090 runs this like shit

>>712456108
thats my point
if it ran better all the worldies would be defending it and nothing else would matter

>>712455869
Just play Sunbreak. It's more of the same but better without any rampages. Iceborne is an improvement over base world, but it still has mostly the same problems if you have any specific things you disliked, and the guiding lands are awful to level up. Even if Raging Brachydios is one of my all time favorite monsters it doesn't justify whatever they thought they were doing with the guiding lands.

>>712449335
>I never once failed a mission in Wilds but I have multiple times in Tri.
How many times did he get you anon?

still waiting for them to unfuck the dogshit performance
meanwhile just playing world once in a while

>>712456212
The game’s player count literally peaks in third world time zones, only third worlders defend it because it costs as much as their annual salary

>>712456251
Shitcom won't fix crap and Wilds has a terrible mod scene unlike World; you will not see custom quests and performance boosts from Asterisk or the rest.

>>712412303 (OP)
More like, Steam users are cancer. You know that every little 13 year old shithead can write a review there, right?
"HOLY SHIT GUYS I dont wanna fuck the monsters this is so woke 1/10!"

They recently *gasp* said they would put an end to altering the game and now every little shit is mad that they can't mod bare tits into the game or that they actually have to play the game to unlock things, so they cry in the reviews.

>>712456235
I failed the mission 5 times because of poorly timed attacks

>>712456326
No shit retard
Only third worlders like story focused shitshows like World and Wilds

The #1 redflag from Wilds for me was the release date. I'm a huge DDfag so I recognized something, similar release dates.
DD2 came out in the 21st of March 2024. Wilds came out in the 28th of February this year. What does this have to do with the state of the game? The fact that Capcom's financial year ends in the 31st of March. Both of these games were rushed out as quick as possible to make their financial statements look good.
Capcom did it with RE4make too but since that game had more development time it came out okay. Be wary of Capcom games coming out in late February or March. Yes, that includes RE9.

>>712457175
RE9, Onimusha and Pragmata are all slated to release early 2026 to make their 2025 fiscal year sales goals. They've got 0 games launch throughout 2025 now and they havent even met 10% of their goal. All 3 of those games will suck ass and be unfinished.

>>712457769
isn't onimusha this year?

>>712420443
>actual lie, those mantles had cooldown and the most powerful ones were literally endgame.
stopped reading there
just lol

>>712457175
Based knower, this isn’t a capcom thing it’s a huge red flag for every release in this industry

>>712457175
yea in hindsight it was obvious wilds was a pump and dump.
Executives get a big W and the real effects of releasing such a trash product will be someone else's problem

>>712458018
No sir all 3 games are 2026 releases. They will be pushed out early 2026 if Wilds doesn't manage to sell another 7 mill copies at full price. This is their last fiscal year to kick the can down the road and afterwards they are boned and investors start pulling.

>>712420443
>no the combat is absolutely brainless slop, it isnt MH anymore.
Says the worldbab, keep tenderizing the parts and chaining topple, little bitch

>>712458108
>remember getting temp mantle really early
>req HR16
Gotta be one of the most bullshit things to exist in the entire franchise. Even with rock steady existing what the fuck were they thinking with temporal. What a blatantly disingenuous thing to try and imply mantles weren't a problem for trivializing things in a game as inherently slower like world.

>>712455149
>december 2024
I'm sure that graph has nothing to do with the fact that Microsoft just started putting all of on the Playstation while not having much else going on, console warrior friend.

>>712458738
Mantles weren’t a problem and rocksteady is better than temporal

>>712457175
>Capcom did it with RE4make too but since that game had more development time it came out okay.
You could also argue it was successful because it had a more traditional level design whereas both DD2 and Wilds are open world. DD2, despite its glaring launch week flaws, was very successful sales-wise. That just sent Capcom executives the message that the RE engine, an engine that has always been designed for hallways and closed areas, is good for open world even if it's clearly the opposite case. Wilds was then made to release in a similar manner. Guess what, it also sold well. RE9 is going to be an open world horror game set to be released in around same date as Wilds. If you pre-order that game, you deserve to get jewed out of 70-80 bucks on a game you won't be able to play until 5-6 months after release.

How do we get normalfags to fuck off out of action games and RPGs? They're killing them just like they killed FPS

>>712459234
stop appealing to them
LOOOOL

>>712459234
make them all mech games and dont put character models in them.

>>712413268
This scares the fags

>>712459376
sounds like a great idea to sell no copies.

>>712459376
If you can't get aroused by a mech you don't deserve them.

>>712459523
Damn, you really went and IMMEDITELY proved his point, he must be a genius.

>>712458805
Only 4 "B-tier" games at that point according to damage controlling faggots such as yourselves at the time.
Why did Microsoft need to port them if they have the mighty PC anyway? Unlike you lot I can tell you exactly why Sony does PC ports. That's just high time preference, fail upwards, California business for you.

>>712459234
The normalfag hates the loli.

>>712459615
yeah making a game for 10 peoples is genius, really hard to do. It's almost impossible to not get famous as game dev

>>712412303 (OP)
man all they had to do was take the World engine, add new monster, make the guiding lands bigger and edit the weapons a little.

also, for people complaining about it being too easy... it's a base MH game, come the fuck on...

>>712459983
>make the guiding lands
no, fuck you.

>>712460026
sorry to break it to you but wilds is essentially a glorified guiding lands, and that's alright. It's just that it's on a shitty new engine

Was she right?

>>712460285
Oh shit that's the retard who's been brigading the MHR board for years.

>>712446056
Heard is less painful now but locking the good fights until anomaly level 150 was dumb

500 post thread. Just wanna end by reminding all that MH Wilds was proper up as PC platform warring behavior. To "own" console players, the shitflinging was nonstop at PS5. /r v Pleddit/ PC fanboys got what they wanted, a broken PC port, NVIDIA selling $500-2000 GPUs, and a shit ton of PC sales circlejerk only rivaled by GCJ. I'd say I had fun but that would be a lie.

You all deserve each other, fucking cunts. Crash to desktop again on your 8GB VRAM cards you purchased last year for $550. Capcom got money and exposure from your PC fanboyism, eat that Steam reviews cake now.

>>712456378
>>712459983
>>712460831
samefag

>>712460831
ESL

>>712460939
>>712460923
P.C.M.R. bald like the Steam reviews are malding in OP's image. You lost. Hope the trolling platform warring you did was a good use of your time, MH Wilds is as abandoned as Dragon's Dogma 2. PC mustard bald race.

>>712412303 (OP)
I will never forgive them for fucking the greatsword