Chinese seethe at this game because the plot is a hidden allegory about Taiwan and Covid 19.

Why are they so sensitive bros?

>>712419649
Being raped in Nanking does that to you

Wukong got shilled to hell and back but got instantly forgotten while 9 sols lives on

>>712419861

>>712421949
What the ccp did was far worse than anything the Japs did in najing yet they seethe at the Japs and worship mao

>>712422026
Yeah, but, those were foreigners doing it. Totally different. The glorious CCP would never mass murder their own people....more than once.

>>712419580 (OP)
Every time Nine Sols is brought up chinks feel insecure and have to bring up gacha slop

I know we'll never get a sequel (which is a good thing), but I kind of wish we got a little more. the lear prequel blue balled me hard.

>>712425717
Huh?

>>712425717
I'm excited what they make next

>>712425717
I felt the game is perfect as-is even if they had to cut some stuff to meet the release date back then

>>712427056
I'm not, their other games have been story-driven walking sims. 9S has great gameplay but it too is a story-driven linear game

maybe they just don't like cats

>>712426098
The official mango.

>>712427056
>>712425717
I'm curious about what they do next. Nine Sols was a bang up stellar game and a highlight of the year, but the rest of their catalogue isn't really for me so I'm wonder which path they'll take

>>712419580 (OP)
The Chinese are quite interesting how they keep doing stuff like this
>started leaving mass negative reviews of Helldivers 2 because they lost Not-China...in the game
>They couldnt read how the game worked and chose not to defend any other area but China when the time came, and because of that, they lost China because they didnt have enough other areas captured
>they literally only showed up to fight for China in the game and were not able to hold it because nowhere else was being held
You think Americans are self centered only because you dont speak Chinese to know how extreme it is there.

>>712429097
My best example of how absolutely asshurt the CCP is when it comes to video games is Battlefield 4
The campaign story in that game is some military general overthrowing the chinese government (=CCP), america then allying with the CCP to reclaim china. And they banned the game lmfao

>>712429241
In china ghosts are banned because it implies a power above CCP control. It's literally official law that people aren't allowed to reincarnate without ccp approval. The government is insanely sensitive

>>712419649
They basically had nothing going for them for decades, were seen as a laughingstock internationally, and so they went on a campaign of brainwashing and censorship to try and get national pride back.

>>712425717
The prequel comic feels like a perfect setup to a lear game.

>>712429097
That's the best part, they didn't even lose not-china. All the butthurt was not being able to permanently fill the defense bar before the attack ended.

>>712429562
No one can comprehend the thon skin of a Chinese person

>>712430268
literally nobody has mentioned deepseek even once since whenever it came out lol

>>712430359
If you browse /pol/ or /int/ you would have seen the literal hundreds of threads praising the amazing ccp and their glorious deepseek

>>712430863
>If you browse /pol/
i do and they don't, literally forgotten by everybody already

>>712429348
>TW, HK, SEA: let's make some cheap scares
> CN: can't control ghosties? BAN THEM
No wonder I never saw a good ghost flick from the middle kingdom. Perhaps it is high time for them to hand the entertainment sector back to more capable hands.

KINO game

>>712429348
>In china ghosts are banned because it implies a power above CCP control. It's literally official law that people aren't allowed to reincarnate without ccp approval
>the state bans religious/spiritual beliefs because it implies power stronger than them
sounds cartoonishly stupid

>>712431715
It used to be worse. All religion and holidays were banned until after Maos death for a similar reason

how come games are never about what actually happens in the game but always about capitalism being bad, colonialism being bad, black people being actual humans, communism is good, le allegory for depression or how my PE teacher touched me in inappropriate places

currently playing ghost of tsushima i cant wait to read about how feudal japan is actually wallstreet and the mongolians were capitalist investors

>>712432073
nine sols isnt actually about taiwan and the ccp virus lol

>>712432138
if you were to tell me it is i would have to believe it because of my twitter diagnosed lack of media literacy

>>712432073
postmodernism (modern cultural "state") is all about gay "hidden" messages that try to "steer" the proletariat into le revolution
we need new sincerity

>>712422026
Mao actually loved the japs for committing war crimes just because it exposed Chiang's incompetence, says a lot about the Chicoms desu

PWNED

Can I get more Yi art like this?
I love the fisheye lens view that makes his face look fucking stupid lol

>>712434646
If it weren't for the japanese killing 15 million Chinese the ccp would never be able to take power and kill 60 million Chinese

>>712432138
>>712432273
It literally is. Island nation shoots off in space to avoid a virus that killed all of not china

>>712434994
>>712432138
>>712419580 (OP)
Fun fact: in china they tell their citizens that Covid came from America

>>712435550
yeah you can see ccp shills repeat it on reddit. or just western leftoids, there isnt any difference really

>>712428228
is the cat ok? Dog was having fun playing with the cat but the fall looked pretty bad

>>712434984

dlc where we save her

I love how asshurt Changs get if you praise ninesols or shit on their shitty ass gacha slop or Wukong

>>712419580 (OP)
isn't this not the first time the devs have gotten flak for their views?

>>712421893
Shitewan is an illusion, Chinese Taipei will be retaken and western piggus will be gutted

close enough to a nine sols thread

does Our Passion (fuxi and nuwa theme) have actual translatable lyrics or is it just chinese sounding gibberish?

>Shitewan is an illusion, Chinese Taipei will be retaken and western piggus will be gutted

>>712419580 (OP)
The plot is about whiteness and colonialism actually

>>712425717
still wish we got SOMETHING, a challenge mode or gauntlet mode, anything

>>712445221
Just listened to it. I can confirm it's not Mandarin at least. Possibly Hokkien (Taiwanese native language) but also possibly gibberish using Chinese sounds

Nuwa's tight hips are built for Fuxi's cock

>>712445416
Taiwanese are pro colonization

>>712441236
I don't know which one is the sexiest?

that's fine and all, but it's really just too boring to hold my attention past the 5 hr. mark

>>712441236
>>712443567
>Had normal anatomy in flashbacks.
Why did she even bother getting transmutated?

>>712441236
maybe in the dlc she'll finally start wearing underwear :/

>>712434984

>chinachinachinathinkaboutchinapleasethinkaboutchinaimnotobsessedyouare
kwab

>>712419649
The average chinese person has an extremely inflated ego, even when they have no reason for it. Even the tiniest slight will set them off.

>>712441392
what is it with liberals and always larping as some sort of victim of some intangible, invisible enemy?

>>712447932
i would be pissed too if the escalator kept eating my co-workers

>>712447510
Chinks post this image every time they get asshurt

>>712448129
They aren't invisible. Chink asshurt is very visible

You know Chinese shills exist on /v/ because they are always pushing AAA shit like Wukong or Gacha trash instead of actually decent Chinese games like cultivation simulator.

Why are liberals so insecure?

>>712448778
You are right. Mao (a leftist) killed 65 million people because he was insecure.

>>712419580 (OP)
their loss
the game is fantastic

>>712448826
>libs
>left
hello unitedstatian

>>712448987
hello shitskin commie

>>712448778
>>712447510
>>712448129
Why do all Chinks post in this girlish passive aggressive way? Are they all feminized?

>>712449216
This is how they act in China due to face culture. It's all faggot passive aggressive shit because they are too scared to just say what they mean.
It's why they are so miserable

>>712449342
It's also government censorship. They act just say what they think or they will get punished so everything has to be indirect. You see it in tiktok with tiktok speak. Suicide is "unalive" and rape is grape. It's pathetic.

What a cultural phenomenon!

>>712449592
Don't give a shit. It's goty.

Oh nonono!

>>712449592
That makes it more pathetic that Chinks seethe at it so much.

>>712449705
Nobody is seething except you samefagging the thread for 4 hours

>>712449804
You are seething right now Chang

>>712449804
kek

>NOOOOOO MUH WUKONG
>MUH GENSHIN
>SAVE ME XI

>sameseething on cooldown

Thread was fun and then a Chink found it so now he's seething just like Op said.

>>712450073
Kino

Imagine a game set in a Chinese factory. It's like factory but if you fuck up people die.

What's the allegory for goumang exposed pussy?

>>712450161
How are you supposed to avoid a piece of machinery exploding and killing you? How can you react in a way to make sure you are safe from this?

>>712450364
Don't be in China

>>712450534
If factorio was real

where's that pic of the seething wojak wearing a calm mask putting a seething mask on a calm wojak
because that's what op is doing

>>712450740
Why would he care what Chinese do and don't ban?

>>712450740
Stinky Chinky is back

>OP says Chinese seethe at the game
>Chinese come into the thread and start seething at the game
KEK

The developers of Nine Sols also made the game Devotion which got banned in China and kicked off of steam after there was a picture comparing Xinnie to Winnie the pooh.

>>712449592
Yes. Nobody care about this game except here. And only this place you will see spam post anti china everyday.
Really make you think right?

>>712451230
Based on both counts

>Chinese have a full mental breakdown when Wukong doesn't win GOTY
>Have a mental breakdown again when they can't protect China in Hell Divers
Why are they like this?

>>712450842
>>712450882
>>712451545
+15 points have been added to your credit score
remember: no bathroom breaks are allowed during your 8 hour shift (excl. unpaid lunch hour)

>>712434984

>>712451751
>your 8 hour shift
In China it would be 12 hours 6 days a week.

>>712451751
>8 hours
In China this would be considered half time.

>>712451840
>>712451942
+15 credit score
keep propogating cia misinformation, gweilos
>inb4 xinjiang
go ask the arab league about it

>>712441630
They put some dumb shit about Winnie the Pooh into Devotion which made chinks complain to GOG and GOG in turn bent the knee and cancelled the release of the game on their storefront.

>>712451751
>REEEEEE
lol

surely a completely mentally sound person would post a video of people dying, not seething in the slightest

>>712452090
Sorry. Nine sols is a good game

>>712452276
You are really asshurt at nine sols for some reason

>Nine sols is a good game
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>712452123
In my brain this is the quintessential liveleak video. It's been referenced so many times.

>>712452276

>>712452628
>I like third guy
Based

>>712452114
right, thats what it was. Thanks for reminding me Anon.

>>712435454
Taiwan was colonized by the Chinese hundreds of years ago and their current government fled there almost a century ago. There are definitely some loose allusions to coof and to Taiwan's relationship with the CCP. But the most coherent relationship the story has with the real world is its adaptation of the founding mythology of China.

>>712445221
It's weird to me how outside of here and a rare pockets of twitter nobody seems to be bothered by the blatant incest. Gotta wonder where all those fags who screeched about Coffin of Andy and Leyley have gone to by the time 9S released.

>>712452780
It's a furry game so it's already played by degens. On the otherhand Coffin is for normalfag twitter and tumbler tards

>>712429097
>tfw the great firewall was built to protect the internet from china, not china from the internet

>>712452628
6/10 white guy living in China. Can confirm. My speedrun from saying hello to fucking is 20 minutes.

Damn, Taiwan bros. Not like this.......

>>712452276
>people dying
>people
They're Chinese, anon. This is no more morbid than that webm of a cancer crawling into a pan of boiling oil.

>>712452850
>On the otherhand Coffin is for normalfag twitter and tumbler tards
Dumb boy.

>>712453345
It is. If it's talked about on tumbler it's for normalfags

>>712453380
Very dumb boy. Not smart at all.

>>712449592
I played it on gampass

>>712449592
Why can Chinese only use popularity as an argument? They really are hivemind bugs aren't they?

Fuck this faggotry, VIDEOGAMES.
So I just want to confirm, the Shaman is the Guru, right?

>>712449592
800,000 sales across all platforms

>>712453572
In their almost nonexistent defense, most normalfags use the appeal to the herd as an argument, sometimes going as far as literally saying that something popular cannot be bad because many people can't be wrong.

>>712453659
The game has a dev team of 15 so that's pretty good.

>>712453659
Why did you shmucks tell me he has nothing underneath his loincloth if his transformation sequence clearly shows his dress has short pant legs in it?

>>712453659

>>712453720
>>712453572
When Wukong didn't win GOTY Ching Chongs spammed the sales numbers claiming that it must be the winner because look how much it sold! (Almost all the sales came from China)

I just escaped the prison, and while the game's very fun so far, the combat balance seems weird. By now, I've gotten the hang of the game well enough that a single enemy is almost never a particularly difficult challenge. Sure I'm not beating bosses and minibosses first try, but it doesn't take very long to learn their attack patterns. Xingtian took me like three tries I think. Yanlao's bossfight took me a dozen attempts and that's only because during the second phase, when there's a billion lasers firing from the ceiling, if I got hit once I kept getting stunlocked and the lasers and the claw attacks 3-shot you or so; once I got more careful to avoid the stunlock instakill the rest of the fight was easy. And the minibosses I've fought in the meantime have again taken me a few tries each but they're vastly easier for me now than the initial few minibosses, even though they're visibly getting faster and with more varied attack patterns - parrying is just not that complicated.

On the other hand facing multiple enemies at once is absolute HELL. The Kanghui fight was the most difficult part of the game so far bar none, and I felt like I was making no progress on every attempt. When I finally beat him it felt like pure luck that I had just managed to survive and somehow deal enough damage to end the bossfight while just frantically trying not to get mobbed and instakilled by the big prison guard, the constant flies shooting at me and the dogs running around everywhere.

I don't know if you unlock better crowd control options in the future, and if individual bosses and minibosses actually become more challenging without just spamming adds. Or am I playing the game wrong and having a skill issue? But right now the balance seems weirdly lopsided where whether a fight is easy or hard is purely dictated by how many enemies are on screen around me.

I think i took over 100tries for Eigong

Rate my small Taiwanese village /v/!

>>712453217
Is this guy doing a "Talking to Americans" bit?

>Alex is seething so hard at zero soul getting shit on yesterday he created an entire thread to try to soothe his butthurt
KWAB

>>712454758
No. He is a Taiwanese youtuber who got paid to come to China and say China is good and Taiwan is bad. Some of his claims include saying a tea in Taiwan costs $28 dollars and that China doesn't have a firewall (even though he had to use a VPN in order to stream)

>>712454821
>zero soul
What's this? Sounds like a Gacha

>>712454821
You are only proving that you seethe at Nine Sols because you are Chinese and mad at Taiwan Chang.

>>712455049
In the 2000s, a "professor" (by Taiwan standards) claimed tea eggs and instant noodles were unaffordable luxuries in mainland China, and that most people didn't have electricity. He became a laughingstock everywhere.

>>712454821
What now?

You're making me wish China would take over Taiwan every time you shill this game, Taiwanfag.

So Taiwan made a decent video game, big deal. Stop obsessing over China.

>>712455142
Depends on the price of instant noodles. In 2000 the average GDP per capita in China was like $900 a year

>he's already seething hard again
Kek
Play AI limit, the best soulslike ever made, created by superior CCP China. Much better than this 9 souls slop.
Alright I'm out

>>712455225
Sorry, more Nine Sols threads to come.

Why haven't you gotten a Chinese gf yet?

>>712455346

>>712455326
>Souls slop
Stopped reading

>>712455346
Yi needs root correction

>>712455397
*Parries attack

>>712455326
What's with Chinks and their obsession with souls slop?

>>712455049
>makes a big deal about how bathrooms have doors
>tells people things cost absurd amounts
>says there's no firewall on stream glitching out due to bad vpn
>only news about it is sneeding in a way that sounds like they're in on the joke
It's still Poe's Law for me unless Taiwan is a lot worse off than I thought.

>>712455521
Chinese just got into gaming in the last 3 years. So they came in during peak Souls slop. If you just started playing games today you would think action = souls.

>>712455569
>>makes a big deal about how bathrooms have doors
This is never before seen technology to the Chinese mind. It's revolutionary I might even say.

>>712449592
>>712449702

>>712455569
Someone post the toilet map of Russia.

>I'm late to playing the game because I don't obsessively binge games on release
>browsing threads a few months ago, before I had properly started playing but just to see if the game looked interesting, they were mostly cat sex posting but also still had some game and lore discussion
>nine sols threads now are just muh china muh taiwan muh ccp and zero game discussion, barely even any catposting

I am a fucking white western man, I think the game's chinkpunk aesthetic is pretty cool, and there is literally ZERO difference between taiwanese chink aesthetic and mainland chink aesthetic that I am aware about or care about. Holy fuck niggers

>beat Eigong woth no damage
I now feel satisfied but empty
What a fuckin fight

>>712455696
Based. They knew

>>712455326
This game is just trying to steal my sperm. No thanks Ling

>>712456013
Unironically it's only a matter of time until China forces women to get pregnant to fix their birth rate and when that happens there will be a free market for sperm.

I've got this stupid headcanon that Xia women were considered drop-dead gorgeous across Penglai

>>712456195
If that's the case why did Heng stay unmarried the whole time she was alive

>>712455326
>Souls shit
I guess Taiwan really is number 1

>>712456563
She was waiting for Yi, obviously

>>712455860
People discovered you can make Chinese really mad by praising Nine Sols. So as a way to make Chinese seethe while not getting banned for breaking the rules you can just praise this game.

>>712453895
>>712456195
would yi feel attracted to lear's mom?

>>712435550
Was covid even real? It was just worse flu that calmed down

>>712457657
Some people died so yeah
But it was overstated

>>712447932
Same with the venezuelans.

>>712457370
Yes, and NOT because she sorta looks like Heng. Bitch built the Haotian Sphere. Yi's scienceboner would be uncontrollable.

>>712457793
old ones, obese and already in bad condition.

thankfully vlad put an end to this nonsense

>>712458013
My friend died from it. He got a cold and covid at the same time so it 1 two punched his immune system.

Could you fix her?

>>712457902
true, it'd be like meeting eigong except she's also hot

If i'm in a multiplayer game and a Chink is acting uppity I just say Taiwan #1 over and over and they start seething

>>712458664
i cant imagine what kind of slop you would have to be playing to be on a same server with a chink

>>712445221
The vocals are excerpts from Peking opera. I don’t remember the specific opera in question. You can watch the opera “The beheading of Chen Shimei” if you want to get an idea for the art form, it’s quite good

>solarians are superior to apemen-AAAACK!!!
https://youtu.be/HpROHeoLXoI

>>712459151
I live in Australia. You seem them often. They use steam now.

>>712460060
>I live in Australia
isnt that a chinese colony anyway

>>712459802
Goumang is the same species as klonoa

>>712458325
Why did they localize her as Lady Ethereal anyways when everyone else got their Chinese names transliterated?

>>712431715
yes, they are
it's the kind of stupid visible from space

>>712461634
i dont think south korea is particularly religious

>>712461564
Maybe they thought the philosophical reference in her name would just go over the heads of dumb westerners not familiar with Zhuangzi

>>712461758
neither is the USA
they have freedom of religion, though, not banning of it, and as a result are fully sapient humans instead of non-sapient bug-men

>>712430268
>a company in a country made (stole) a product
>this means my dating options will improve!
lmao are they for real? this reads like parody

>>712461634
This dichotomy doesn't work because religious societies / people also benefit from science progress (brought mainly by stopping to follow religion dogma)

>>712462312
and yet anti-religious societies don't allow anyone to benefit from any science or technology, not even electric lighting, except for Great and Perfect Chairman-Pfesident For Life

>>712429348
>It's literally official law that people aren't allowed to reincarnate without ccp approval
This is not for ghosts, it's so they can kill the religion of tibetan buddhism. The leader of the religion, the Dalai Lama, is supposed to be reincarnations of the same person each time. So if any future person claims to be the Lama after the current 85-year-old-geezer kicks the bucket they can throw them in an unmarked black van and cart them to the organ pits or iphone slave mines. Basically the law just makes it illegal to continue the religion.

>>712462546
You're talking about totalitarian shitholes. I can guarantee you the horrible living standards they have over there doesn't have anything to do with religion

>>712461564
I have two theories:
>Playtesters thought the battle intro text was telling them "FUCK YOU, DIE".
or
>Her name sounded like Foodie and would be taken as making fun of her weight.

>>712455346
Please no, anything but that. And also please don't make them about the actual game, that'd be horrible, that'd make me very upset, please don't noooooooo.

>>712463025
>You're talking about totalitarian shitholes
yes, anti-religious societies, that's what I said

>>712455860
Just play the game, nigga. It's good. I only finished it like a month or so ago. But don't buy it at full, wait for another 40% off, never pay more than 20 dollars for a videogame, even if it is a legitimate masterpiece like this one.
The reason you're seeing this chink seethe is because all the actual discussion took play over the course of the year the game has been released. Everyone has had their fill talking about the actual game.

>>712456563
Yi was too autistic to properly reciprocate, and if you think Heng would marry someone else you're a funny fella.

I love how anachronistic Solarian tech is. You have floating machinery that look like something out of ancient china and hard light being described as "sand".

>>712463609
heng died a virgin.....

>>712463443
I AM playing it
I posted >>712454195 and then watched the thread just continue spiralling in CCP vs taiwan shitflinging with zero discussion on the game itself, that's why I got mad

>>712464109
That's understandable, then. For what it's worth, a wee while ago I made a Nine Sols thread of my own without a dogshit political OP and that thread was pretty good, so it should still be possible to have solid 9S discussion on /v/.
>>712454195
Far as multiple enemies go, most of the time it appears like you're expected to use your Cloud Piercer arrows on those. I'm afraid my memory for chink names is abysmal so I can't remember who Kanghui is, so no specific advice for that one yet.

>>712464109
>>712464721
>>712454195
Oh, the poor hound looking bastard? That's weird, I seemed to have had enough overall damage to simply clear the battlefield fast enough to not be overwhelmed. I'm not sure if my tao fruits made THAT much of a difference.

>>712464721
>>712464862
Yeah the prison boss who's chained up and spits out blobs of flesh that spawn into enemies.
Clearing out the battlefield was easy in the first phase but the prison guardian gave me a ton of trouble. They have a shitton of health and attack pretty fast, so on their own they're not difficult but do require focus, but then while you're trying to hit him kanghui will do the thing where he spits out four flies at once so now you're getting absolutely raped by the flying needles they launch at you. They have almost no health but the warden guy has insane movement and the boomerang shield attack so if you try to go after the flies you still gotta be focused on the warden to block his attacks, AND also blocking the flying needles because they keep fucking spitting them.
And then you let it get slightly out of control and kanghui will spit out a dog or two, and those again are usually absolutely trivial but while you're juggling everything else now it's an extra thing that can just bite you from behind and interrupt, say, an attempt to parry the warden, so you get hit by the big ass sword for a third of your health, get knocked down, kanghui just keeps spitting out flies so now there's eight of them flying around and you get hit by five or six needles, and while you're stunlocked the warden throws his shield at you and you die. It's SO easy for everything to get out of control, and so hard to do intelligent things like effectively blocking shit from the 6+ enemies on screen to actually build up Qi, or blowing your talisman on the correct enemy or blowing it at all without getting flinched by an attack, etc.

Maybe I should've gone water flow instead of full control or something.

>kanghui
Just charge attack. Kills all the little dudes in one hit. Maybe not the dogs I can't really remember but it fucks up the flying shitters. Super easy crowd control and then the rest of the fight's a cinch.

>>712419580 (OP)
should I get this on switch 2 or pc?
is it playable with joycons or do you need an actual good stick?
is it 720p blurry and ugly on switch 2?

>>712464086
I once saw a thread with an OP somewhere along the lines of "Would it fix things if they fucked?" and, come to think of it, what if it would? Maybe the retard death cult neurons in her brain could be overridden with maternal instincts and she'd finally stop craving death in her 20s.

>>712466286
Yeah but what about the big guardian guy
He keeps raping you while you're trying to charge attack the little guys

>>712466315
Keyboard is the best IMHO. The title screen says "hurr use controller for best experience" but I tried and I find that objectively wrong.
This is in stark contrast to e.g. Hollow Knight which feels like ass on keyboard for some reason, so I can basically only play it on my steam deck with a d-pad, so I end up never playing it because I can't be bothered to get my deck out.

>>712466015
Make use of your azure bow if you haven't. Needlers might be managable if you got the projectile reflect skill. If not - more azure bow. Since Cloud Piercer also staggers pretty much fucking everything - it should give you quite a good bit of breathing room. I don't reckon you already have access to upgraded talismans but if you do - my personal recommendation is just the upgraded version of basic Qi Blast. Those arrows are no joke, man. Full Control at 5 pips will usually just make you tank hits trying to pull it off, and Water Flow... Well I just think with the amount of time you're spending slapping talismans you might end up losing too much DPS uptime and failure-spiraling due to prolonged fights.
With the bow there are some sweet-ass arrows available to you, and the default cloud piercer is very solid because it interrupts most attacks, staggers even bosses for a short time (which often gives you a window to slap the talisman and refund the arrow right away) and deals reasonable damage, though not the best. The bow is probably one of the main reasons I survived the final boss.

>>712467129
Any time you get a game telling you to play it on a controlled - just come up with a keybind scheme that includes your mouse, like Nine Sols, and you'll find that you can play any controller game like a god by just including your mouse buttons. Hollow Knight also becomes a lot less ass to play when you just bind attack to left click and structure the rest around it.

>>712467224
Yeah maybe I just went about it wrong. Full control is really geared for one-on-one fights so I probably should've swapped it out, I don't know why I was so stubborn at just keeping the same shit.
I was using the thunder explosive bow, I'm not sure if that was better or worse than the piercing one.

I haven't beelined the upgraded basic talisman yet because water flow just seems easier and full control gives a lot more damage, and I also tend to forget about my bow because it's got limited arrows, and now that you've pointed out both of these fix each other so I really should try them out.

>>712419580 (OP)
Anything that makes chinks seethe is automatically based

>>712419580 (OP)
Why is a tiny island nation so much better at making games than a supposed world superpower

>>712467567
I've built the mind-body connection necessary to use a game controller

>>712466621
Many of life's problems could be solved with incest.

>>712467567
What makes or breaks a game on keyboard is always the movement. Hollow Knight's movement just feels wrong on WASD, I don't know what it is about it but when I first tried the game I struggled so much even on the first location, then a while later I decided to try it on the deck and suddenly the starting area was actually about as easy as you'd expect a starting area to be and I could focus on fighting enemies rather than just trying to navigate the terrain like a paraplegic. That's not something rebinding stuff to the mouse can fix.

Same shit with most 3D souls games. They're built for console first, so the third-person movement is tuned for controller, and it ends up feeling like absolute ass on keyboard. I've tried several souls games, old and new, even sekiro, and each time I got filtered not because the combat is hard but rather because my guy is moving in the wrong fucking direction and attacking in the wrong direction and dodging in the wrong direction and it feels like I'm fighting the game's control scheme rather than actually engaging with the combat and enemies. Each one of those just felt infinitely better when I tried them on the deck, but there having a right stick replacing the mouse feels unplayable to me for the camera movement - now the character movement is fine but the camera is always fucking wrong and the only way to move it is sloooowly rotating it with a joystick. But that's an issue with 3D games, HK was fine on the deck. Anyway, my point being none of that is related to the button bindings, it's about how WASD input is handled in the game.

9S works perfectly on WASD and I couldn't be happier.
That said since you mentioned rebinding, I did change one thing and that was putting the talisman on middle click on the mouse. That was absolutely necessary but it's also the only change I ever did. Rest of the control scheme is perfectly fine.

>>712467680
The choice between the electric bomb and the cloud piercer depends on the encounter, but cloud piercer is the most versatile of them all. Electric bomb doesn't stagger and requires the victim to stay within its radius, plus it only affects a small area compared to Cloud Piercer just raping an entire strip of space in front of you (you shoot a needler with the electrobomb - basically only that needler will get damaged by the electroblast. But if you cloudpierce it - everything behind it is capital F Fucked as well), meanwhile the Sha- wait no, you haven't gotten that one yet, no spoilers.
But yeah, upgrading Cloud Piercer is a risk-free endeavor and Upgraded Qi maintains respectable damage while making your bow essentially a "cooldown" based skill thus sustainable thus actually useful instead of getting hoarded for the entire game and never once fired because "Well I'm fighting the final stage of the final boss already but what if there is a finaler stage of a finaler boss right around the corner and I wasted all my arrows? D:".
And once you get used to actually employing the bow actively - you'll likely appreciate the combat a lot more.

>>712419580 (OP)
Nine Sols is kino, it's easily a 9/10 and made me cry a little at the end.

>>712468102
I need an explanation as to what this is a reference to and I need it desperately. Don't leave a lad hanging.

>>712468221
Dunno, HK felt right and proper for me when I made a WASD+mouse scheme.
As far as 9S goes, same but I bound the talisman to one of the side buttons on my mouse because in order to pop a tali with a mousewheel I'd need to let go of either attack or parry and that's a big no-no. Thumb is free.

>>712468229
Got it. Thanks anon, I'll definitely grab the upgraded basic talisman and try using my bow more.
Doesn't the thunderbomb bow affect an AOE, though? I shoot a warden and all the needlers in his general vicinity and dogs nearby seem to get fucked. Or maybe not, I didn't have a lot of time to carefully look at what was going on. I did consider switching back to the cloud piercer but I assumed it would just miss all the flying enemies, or force me to aim it JUST right to hit most of them (and maybe miss the guardian in the process).

I know it's a skill issue on my part but I wish they gave some more obvious way to recharge your bow, rather than a skill at the very bottom of the skill tree and no tips or indications anywhere encouraging you to take it. Cause if you don't use it, the bow is very much a consumable that you pretty much never use except for bosses, and in my case when I do get a boss I tend to forget it exists since I haven't been using it for 99% of the game.

>>712468387
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/special-feeling-%E7%89%B9%E5%88%A5%E3%81%AA%E6%B0%97%E5%88%86

>>712468676
Middle finger is free, too. But yeah that's down to preference. I'm not actually using my side buttons for anything right now.
>HK
Maybe I just had a skill issue, honestly.

>>712468102
Weird thing ain't it.

>>712468102
it's true

>>712468685
>Doesn't the thunderbomb bow affect an AOE, though?
It is. But consider the following: The AoE pops at the place where the arrow hits. Thus, unless all the enemies are clustered in that one spot, which they're usually not since they tend to spread out around the arena, it'll be wasted. Cloud Piercer covers like a quarter of the screen instead of a wee circle.
>I shoot a warden and all the needlers in his general vicinity and dogs nearby seem to get fucked
That's why I'm saying it depends on the encounter. If they're bunched together and aren't hyperactive enough to get the fuck out of the circle (there is funny footage of a guy exploiting a bug that makes thunderbomb deal damage while you're in the menu, and the reason he used it was because Jiequan would just fuck off from the blast radius before the bomb finishes, losing DPS) then it's fine. But then what if the two needlers are in different corners of the screen? Or if a dog runs away and ends up behind you? With a CP shot you could just hug one of the sides of the screen and shoot across the entire arena to clip most of them.
>I know it's a skill issue on my part but I wish they gave some more obvious way to recharge your bow, rather than a skill at the very bottom of the skill tree and no tips or indications anywhere encouraging you to take it. Cause if you don't use it, the bow is very much a consumable that you pretty much never use except for bosses, and in my case when I do get a boss I tend to forget it exists since I haven't been using it for 99% of the game.
Funnily enough, the initial purpose of the bow is crowd control rather than boss duels. It's the Qi Blast that makes it viable for duelling.
But ye, you're right about the other thing. This is like one of the most common game design sins in the industry - making limited use "oh shit!" consumables that the player constantly neglects in an attempt to stay frugal. Very few people get the issue with it.

>>712468710
Not as exciting as I thought, but I'm thankful nonetheless.

>>712468796
>Middle finger is free, too.
You use your ring finger for the right click?

>>712469793
You were hoping for something incest-specific?

>>712469860
>ring finger for the right click
what, how small are your hands

>>712468997
I was told by someone in a different 9S thread that considering how taoism works there isn't an actual afterlife for all the dead cats to hang out in so your picrel won't be happening. It's the primary contributor to my decision for convincing myself of the "fake" ending being my canon timeline. Fuck defeatist death cultists.

>>712422026
>what the CCP did was worse
What did they do that was worse?
desu I can more easily forgive mass deaths to incompetence (great Chinese famine) than the absolute horror show of nanjing, which was filled with absolutely pointless brutality and sadism

>>712469875
Possibly. Or at least alternatively something much more embarassingly sappy to warrant the raction by the flustered side of the meme.
For what it's worth, the 9s adaptation in particular is actually great in context and does the most it could do with such underwhelming source material.

>>712470285
>60m die
>oops bro it was just incompetence it happens

>>712470035
Taoism kinda does and kinda doesn't have an afterlife. Which is fitting

>>712470226
Were the cat streamer and others random badges backer tiers?

>>712470668
Yes. She's an OC Donut Steel.

I'm not a Chinese shill, but nobody literally heard of this game. You're not winning the culture war, retard.

>>712470035
There's no afterlife because "after" and "life" are both illusory concepts. There is a flow to all things and our degree of alignment with it. You may as well ask if the ripples in a lake are gone when the water is still; they are a pattern in a borrowed material, and return that material when their time is up, but they aren't "gone". The water is there.

>>712470560
>oops it was just incompetence
yeah it was
don’t get me wrong it’s terrible, and a highlight of the weaknesses of a cult of personality/asian collectivism, but it really was just extremely shitty administration

>>712471151
>but nobody literally heard of this game.
Learn proper grammar Ranjesh

>>712470581
I was told that you can remain around as some kind of memory echo for a while but then that'll dissipate into nothingness. Either way if there is no cat incest in not-heaven then this philosophy is trash and I have no respect for anyone who ever practiced it.

>>712451032
Bro, all you need to do to get them to run is bring up what happened at the T-square. They always run whenever someone brings up the T-square...

>>712419580 (OP)
stfu and post Lady Ethereal

>>712471223
do you still brush it off as incompetence when the incompetence wasn't brought on by genuine misunderstanding but pure ideology?

>>712471170
Yeah I got the gist, everything is primordial sludge and it just changes state, but as far as I care - you are made up of the unique patterns that your own chunk of primordial sludge assembled into. When those patterns break down and your sludge returns to the main source - you are gone with it. And I love myself. And love some other things too. Things with PATTERNS to them. And I don't like them being gone, and take no solace in the fact that the sludge used to assemble my favorite patterns is still around.

>>712471667
this sorta shit is why we've got the pink goop everywhere

>>712469497
>the initial purpose of the bow is crowd control rather than boss duels
Yeah but the main reason you'd want to control crowds, at least that I've encountered so far, is during a boss battle with adds. Maybe it gets worse later on, but so far after having finished the prison (that means three areas with three Sols down - and then the prison is a stealth segment), I haven't encountered a single area where there were enough overworld enemies to require crowd control.

>>712469860
Yeah, why wouldn't you? I don't understand how people play video games that use the scroll wheel using only two fingers on the mouse. Like even in an FPS game, do you have to move your fingers off the buttons just to scroll through weapons for example?

>>712471524
yeah
literally by being stupid
they weren’t trying to execute them
the CCP, particularly under Mao, was the most incompetent and retarded government on the earth
iirc on some occasions they even used suboptimal planting techniques under the delusion that the plants would appreciate being more equal or some such nonsense
would be comical if it wasn’t a real event that killed 30+ million
that being stated, they thought it served a purpose (it didn’t, they were wrong and retarded)
hell, even the nazis thought extermination of the Jews was better for the Germans as a whole
the nips had no higher reason for their brutality, they were so horrific of their own accord that a nazi diplomat (Georg Rosen) appealed to literally Hitler to get them to stop because he was so horrified
imagine being so brutal that a literal nazi appeals to Hitler to help save members of an asiatic race

>>712471830
Nothing is good in excess. Life is a constant struggle within a sea of perpetual turmoil with the goal of figuring out the sweet spot which, speaking 'objectively', doesn't exist. You assess the risks and decide whether or not the endeavor is worth pursuing. Eigong was just a retard and fucked up her risk assessment and bit off more than she could chew, which unfortunately backfired for the entire species.

>>712472369
>iirc on some occasions they even used suboptimal planting techniques under the delusion that the plants would appreciate being more equal or some such nonsense
this is from soviet union but its actually what i had in mind with my question of would you still brush it off when its pure ideology instead of a genuine misunderstanding
i wouldnt. utopian ideologies are the most dangerous because ends justify the means and youll never meet the ends

>>712472005
What about the pink sludge area with two beige tanto soldiers right after the annoying katana faggot? I always burn my cloudpiercer on those. Also some of the Forge clusters of enemies where there are like 3 of them and 2 have shields.
>>712472143
Yes. We use middle finger for aiming. Weapon swapping usually isn't something one has to do in a split second unless you're playing gay shit like Doom Eternal where the game flashes a giant tutorial window telling you that swapping to your pistol is faster than reloading.

>>712419580 (OP)
Huh, I thought it was because of the shitty castle design and wanky combat.

>>712449702
>>712449592
I liked both games but I liked nine sols way way more than wukong. I'm still glad both succeeded

>>712472870
Remind me which pink sludge area? Remember I'm just fresh out of prison, I've beaten the first three sols and kanghui and that's it.
>Forge clusters of enemies where there are like 3 of them and 2 have shields
I dunno about the forge but this has happened in the warehouse and I dunno, usually when you had like at most 3 random mook enemies on a fairly wide platform and I didn't have much trouble kiting them around with the dash, charge-striking them and taking them out one by one. It does make it annoying to use the talisman but also most mooks don't actually need you to use the talisman. I guess the arrows could be useful? But yeah then you've got the problem that it's a consumable, and it's not particularly hard to just do it yourself, so I just don't bother with the arrows.
There was that one big in the warehouse where a trillion enemies flood out of a background doorway and I did use a couple of arrows there. But turns out I was retarded because you can hack into that mech with a giant mace just above that room and that's the intended way to go through the area flattening all the enemies.

>>712419580 (OP)
The only thing china is is a project meant to see how much you can humiliate an east asian boi and torture him.
>le troll face
>introduce one child policy where only boys can live
>families abort all female children
>grow up in a generation where there's practically no women your age to date
>old communist fucks force you to wage slave to death and toil away in industries until you die
>get addicted to B__ sissy hypno and become a woman ... or kill yourself
grim future for every young east asian boi, thats why they be like this

>>712473239
>castle
I dont think you played it anon

>>712472870
>We use middle finger for aiming.
What on earth do you mean by that? I'd imagine you use the middle finger for right-clicking, no? Mice don't have trackpads on their buttons (yet).
You - or at least I - use all the fingers for aiming, as they're gripping the mouse. Mainly the thumb and pinky, in my case; I suppose in your case it'd be thumb, index finger and pinky. Still not middle though. Unless you have some kind of ungodly 1-finger grip.

>Weapon swapping usually isn't something one has to do in a split second
True, I just like having a bunch of stuff on my middle mouse button. In single player games it's useful for all kinds of abilities. In multiplayer games, chat binds and stuff. In TF2 I have the scrollwheel to jump bind for bhopping. Shit like that.

>>712473441
>B__ sissy hypno
What

>>712473398
>Remind me which pink sludge area? Remember I'm just fresh out of prison, I've beaten the first three sols and kanghui and that's it.
Know what? You'd remember it if you saw it. I'm afraid my memory isn't very good chronology wise and I'd rather not spoil more than I already did. Bottom line is sometimes there are small crowds where cloud piercer turns a 30s parry sequence into a 1.5s draw of a bow string.
>I didn't have much trouble kiting them around with the dash, charge-striking them and taking them out one by one
See, but you had to spend time with that entire song and dance while I just pressed a single button and now 3 mooks ceased to exist.
If your point is that the bow isn't essential, then... Well, you're right actually. But I was agreeing with you in that regard. The problem is you have a very useful but non-essential limited consumable and that just makes most players not use it at all, which is a failure on the developer's part to understand the player's mindset.
>There was that one big in the warehouse where a trillion enemies flood out of a background doorway and I did use a couple of arrows there. But turns out I was retarded because you can hack into that mech with a giant mace just above that room and that's the intended way to go through the area flattening all the enemies.
You're not retarded because I did that as well and I am a very clever fella. Game's fault for making that encounter beatable by an average player, because as far as we're concerned - that's just a slightly weird difficulty spike rather than a legitimate "come back later" roadblock.

>>712473643
>What on earth do you mean by that?
Right click is what people use to engage the aiming function present in the majority of FPS, i.e. looking through iron sights, with the alternative usually being called hip-firing.

>>712472143
Which fps games do you use a mousewheel to select a weapon? In typical counter strike or something you only have like 3, 4 weapons so you press the corresponding number key. In an arena shooter you might have 5+ in which case you definitely will not mess with the mouse wheel but use the number keys
Almost sounds like a question from someone who doesn't play fps

>>712474550
Yeah fair point about the bow. It just makes things faster and easier.
I just don't think it's necessarily a good thing - I enjoy the combat and 9S is supposed to be a challenging game. If the bow can turn a 10-second encounter with dodging and careful movement into a single button press, it's not necessarily a fun mechanic. And so my overall point is that they didn't balance things around requiring the bow at all. It's not that it's "not required", it's that without the bow things aren't too hard, but with the bow it quickly becomes too easy.
In contrast to e.g. Kanghui or even Goumang for that matter, where the bow is indeed extremely useful - if you remember to use it lmao.

>Game's fault for making that encounter beatable by an average player, because as far as we're concerned - that's just a slightly weird difficulty spike rather than a legitimate "come back later" roadblock.
I don't necessarily think it's intended to be a roadblock. Just indeed a very hard fight. And the hackable robot gives you a way to absolutely fuck up all the enemies once you do find it, which is a very nice feeling especially if you accidentally triggered the first room.
On the other hand the robot is then part of a cutscene with Yanlao later so you're definitely meant to find it, so maybe you're right after all, but I do think that's an issue with using it in the cutscene more than an issue with the encounter. Being able to fight through it yourself is just a nice feature - give skilled or persistent players a way forward rather than railroading them into finding the "win this encounter" mcguffin.

>>712472591
rather be in a room with a retard that accidentally killed 100 people because he accidentally slipped cyanide in the porridge because his economic teacher said it was effective as almond flavoring
than be in a room with a murderer rapist who brutally murdered and tortured a mere 10 people (ranging from infants to adults) for no reason other than to let off some steam, before finally being stopped by someone else holding them at gunpoint

>>712474889
Oh yeah fair. In that case I understand the point even less because why would the middle finger be crucial there rather than the index finger.

>>712475125
I used to do it in TF2 and CSGO, it's true that number keys are superior but I started with mousewheel and had to relearn it later.
It's also very very common in single player games with multiple weapons.

>>712475290
Retards don't do anything well tho
Murder rapist might have good taste in vidya

>>712475437
desu the nip probably would have far better taste so that is a valid point

>>712475412
>It's also very very common in single player games with multiple weapons.
Most of them also use have weapon wheels now even the indie titles, but even without one you're not gonna be in any trouble taking your trigger finger off and swapping weapons with it for a second in a singleplayer game. I mean you couldn't really even continue firing while scrolling anyway

>>712475590
Weapon wheels are fucking GARBAGE, why would I have to move my mouse cursor to some on-screen button for something that should just take a weapon press?
>you're not gonna be in any trouble taking your trigger finger off and swapping weapons with it for a second
Yeah sure but why take it off in the first place, it's just more comfortable to me than having to move it around whenever I want to scroll

>>712475742
Overwhelming amount of games that use weapon wheels either slow down the gameplay or flat-out freeze time, I'm in fact struggling to think of games that don't do this, so for a singleplayer game with lots of different weapons a weapon wheel is extremely nice
I grew up with doom so I'm more of a number key guy but even I will admit that in very hectic games like doom eternal the weapon wheel + accompanied slowdown is very welcome. Couldn't handle that game on nightmare with number keys alone. But it wouldn't even cross my mind to use the mousewheel, honestly haven't used the mousewheel to switch weapons since quake 3

what in the fuck are you talking about

>>712475412
>Rightclicking with the index finger

>>712449592
>this is the giant success Englin shills are latching onto

>>712476357
I meant ring you nigger sorry I'm retarded

>obvious bait /pol/ thread
>people actually end up discussing the game
Yikes.

>>712476506
That's what happens when you use good games as bait

>>712475228
>I just don't think it's necessarily a good thing - I enjoy the combat and 9S is supposed to be a challenging game. If the bow can turn a 10-second encounter with dodging and careful movement into a single button press, it's not necessarily a fun mechanic. And so my overall point is that they didn't balance things around requiring the bow at all. It's not that it's "not required", it's that without the bow things aren't too hard, but with the bow it quickly becomes too easy.
>In contrast to e.g. Kanghui or even Goumang for that matter, where the bow is indeed extremely useful - if you remember to use it lmao.
I just wanna make it clear - we're already agreeing on this point.
>I don't necessarily think it's intended to be a roadblock. Just indeed a very hard fight. And the hackable robot gives you a way to absolutely fuck up all the enemies once you do find it, which is a very nice feeling especially if you accidentally triggered the first room.
Aye, I'm just saying it's not our problem that we didn't figure out the mech solution. It wasn't presented as the intended design, so it was a reasonable action from our side to just kill it the regular way.

>>712476443
>he rightclicks with his ring finger
Not just retarded, you're a psychopath as well.
>>712476506
Power of good games. Nine Sols is a high quality piece of software. Where there is good games and enough people knowing about them - there will be vidya discussion.

>>712476821
1-3-1 is a perfectly legitimate grip style reeee
The mouse has three buttons on the top, why would you not use three fingers for them? It's the most logical way to use it

>>712476360
>animeposter is retarded
But of course.

>>712476506
The on-topic threads are full of incestuous furries

>>712476903
either your hand is really small or your mouse is really big if you can make that work

>>712476903
Because I have 10 gigantic bratwursts assembled into grotesque walnut-crushing manhandlers and they don't fit into the confines of those teeny weeny three buttons anywhere near as well as your dainty little hands do. Thanks for making me self-conscious again.

>>712476903
Because you only ever need the mouse wheel when you aren't left-clicking and the pinky is a shit right-side support for when you want to move the mouse left.

>>712476506
Jiequan was right. Heroes are forged in agony.

>>712476903
This kinda reminds me of when I was first learning to drive. You wanna instinctively hover your foot over the breaks but there's a reason people don't do that. Same applies to 1-3-1 mouse grip, that's horrid, you won't ever need to use all 3 buttons at once

>write game off as parryslop Metroidvania
>Friend gifts me a copy so I decide to give it a go anyway
>Strong level design
>Combat is parry-focused but you're always managing multiple threats at once and it's not a win button
Game rules

>>712477648
>Doesn't mention liking the characters
:(

>>712477648
>>Strong level design
It really isn't thought, poor level and especially world design are what holds this game back

>>712476360
>Englin
Did you mean Eglin, wumao?

>>712476357
sounds legit to me

>>712478121
Not him but it depends on how autistic you are. As a non-sperg, I can't stomach rat mazes that most metroidvanias are. Nine Sols' light level design doesn't overstat its welcome and gives me just enough of every level to have fun without getting sick of rubbing myself up against every corner in search of the last secret item.

>>712478412
Well you certainly would know that.

>>712478628
Call me autistic then because literally part of the metroidvania experience should be good level design with non-linear progression

>>712479148
well good thing the game is neither parryslop nor metroidvania

>>712463319
Many middle-east countries are highly religious while still being the biggest shitholes in the world.
Communist countries practicing state atheism doesn't really have much effect.

>>712479313
It's also good it's a 2D game because if the devs try to move into the third dimension next time around it's not gonna work out when your competition is the likes of Lies of P. But I doubt they will, the studio has always made games that are story first gameplay second and 9S is not an exception even if it has actually good gameplay

>>712479148
Okay. You're autistic then because literally part of the metroidvania experience should be good level design with non-linear progression

Toriel and Lady Ethereal smooching.

>just died twice and lost like 3000 jin
FUCK

>>712483641
Where are you in the game progression? Might be able to offer you a quick money farm that's like 200 per minute.

>>712483907
I'm the same anon that had just finished prison. I'm past the underground caves now, I died in the most stupid way in the 95th livestock pen.
>200 per minute
That'd still be 15 minutes to get back. Still, if I have access to it now, I'm curious so shoot.

That being said I honestly hate the fact that you can grind in this game. It really feels out of place, and progression-based rewards would make a lot more sense IMHO.

>>712483907
you most likely needed to grind for currency in order to know this, in which case im really curious at which point do you ever have to grind for currency in the game

>>712483641
Save your components if you're unsure you'll be able to keep your jin

>>712485315
Yeah no shit

>>712479404
and yet even India still has 24/7 electricity and a space exploration program

>>712484223
Too early. My method doesn't come in until Twincest.
>>712484392
Way at the end when I wanted all the shitty useless 100% upgrades but didn't have the heart to liquify all those hyperexpensive unique recyclables because I wanted them as sentimental keepsakes.