Thread 712419620

I'm a gog chad.

xbox you can play anywhere with anything

Buying games on GoG because you own them is like clicking "deny all" when a site asks if they want to put tracking cookies on your PC.

>>712419807
You can't play on linux

You still don't OWN anything on GOG, only the IP owner actually owns it, GOG just has more lax rules regarding stopping you from what you can do with it though copyright and license terms still apply

Let me know when they start supporting Linux (I would really like to know)

thanks gog-sama
very cool

gog games will be REALLY DRM-free soon

>>712420618
it seems cool but gog will always be out of date somehow

>>712419620 (OP)
if they get their regional prices fixed, i'll switch.

>>712419620 (OP)
>I'm a gog chad.
based and GOGpilled
>>712420513
Hmm? There are plenty games on GOG that work on Linux. You can even filter by operating system when you open the store. I am guessing that you are shitposting and never shopped on GOG ever.

>>712421723
>regional prices
There are games on sale right now that cost 0,99 euros or lower. How much cheaper do you need games to be?
>>712419620 (OP)
gigachad

>>712419620 (OP)
There are plenty of DRM-free games on Steam. It's up to the devs how they want to do it, so blame them :)

gog is (i think) the only store that appropriately makes games cheaper in eur than in usd. Fuck mutts for pretending the currencies are equal in value.

>>712422125
think he means galaxy
also in my experience most old linux games straight up do not work

Yeah I don't think I will be supporting Slavs, enough of my taxed income goes to them already.

>>712420246
>>712420419
>>712420513
We sure do get a lot of retards around here.

>>712422690
why would your taxes go towards poland? The fuck?

>>712419620 (OP)
>gog chad
>when you get a quarter of the catalog compared to steam

>>712423402
you pay taxes to the EU?

>>712419620 (OP)
You own a title from GoG as much as you own a pirated copy, there’s nothing physical or transferable about it, it’s not owned.
Why wouldn’t I just pirate it?

>>712420319
Unironically a skill issue

>>712423343
Oh nooo not the 100k asset flips!
We must preserve them all in GoG!

>>712424562
False. This is all cope of a thief. A physical copy is still a licence.

>>712424682
I would love to play my Microsoft store bought games on linux, please enlighten me

>>712423469
You think the EU makes money out of thin air?

>>712423469
Are you underage or something? The only way governments can make money are taxation or deferred taxation (taking loans, printing money).

>>712420419
>Respecting and internalizing the paradigm of IP law as if it is real
Goyim please. If the files are on your hard drive and no one can fuck with your use of them, then you own them.
>>712420513
Just don't use the client.
>>712424562
>There's nothing physical or transferable about it
You can install it on another computer though? It's not like physical DVD slop is better, since that will frequently include copy protection and DRM.
>Why wouldn't I just pirate it?
Convenience I guess, but the average person impulse buys in response to advertisement anyway, so piracy doesn't matter to sales if the service is good enough to promote impulse buys.

based gogmods
i'm surprised they didn't ask the Thief modders if they can just curate some of those 30 years worth of mods, too.

>>712420419
>>712426236
You two dipshits are arguing over two different definition of "own"
>>712420419
This retard is literally thinking people are claiming they own the rights to the IP because they have the game on a disc.

There is always one of you """"intellectual"""" dipshits that think they are being clever reminding people you don't own the contents of the disc.
WE KNOW and that has never been up for debate, you are not smart.

I should be buying more old shit on GOG, I just keep seeing Steam sales of old games and immediately grabbing them on impulse like a tard

>>712426648
>>This retard is literally thinking people are claiming they own the rights to the IP because they have the game on a disc.
There is no other way to "own" a piece of media that owning the IP, in legal terms owning a game on Steam and on disc is basically the same thing

>>712423402
polish economic growth the last 20 years has been almost 1:1 with foreign gibs. and the poles still think they're being exploited lmao

>>712425368
what do you think the ecb is for?

>>712429935
ECB doesn't make money out of thin air. Every Euro it prints is taxed from the wealth of EU population. It's just dishonest taxation which the people can't see, because instead of losing their euros their euros lose value.

>>712423402
that map is wrong in so many ways

>>712428753
GoG has sales too

>>712419620 (OP)
Plenty of games on GOG have varying amounts of DRM on them, this has been the case even back when they were still called Good Old Games
It's mostly unique serial keys for online play, but there has even been some titles that need to phone home and verify with that unique key to activate LAN play. Can't get much more DRM than that.

>>712419620 (OP)
you should never ever be able to be banned from your games

>>712430468
No it is not. Stay butthurt

>>712425368
Yes it does unironically, to cover debts of Greece and south european states.
I always chuckle when someone says that Bitcoin has no concrete value because these goypapers are not covered by literally anything anymore, with Bitcoin there is at least a fixed amount of them and nobody can make more once all of them are mined.

>>712420246
No, it's like buying a game on a CD. Maybe I'll lose the installing file or damage the CD, but it's my responsability, and until then, the company that sold me the game or the CD can't decide to make it unavailable to me out of nowhere.
The worst thing that could happen to me is GOG going out of business and I lose access to recover new install files. Thanksfully, due to their no DRM policy, there's already plenty of installers being shared for every game on GOG.

Get yourself a NAS, buy games on GOG if you want to support the dev, pirate games otherwise, and own your games. Physical degrades over time, things like disc rot and most discs don't even have the full game now. If you want to play a denuvo game, buy a cheap account on a Russian website for like $4. Simple desu

>>712430660
I don't check on them as actively as I do Steam sales. It's basically a cycle of
>I buy more games on Steam
>So I open Steam more often
>So I see sales more often
>So I buy more games on Steam
>So I open Steam more often
>etc.

>>712425779
the EU isn't a national government, retard.
You don't pay taxes to it.
Once again retards outside the EU have no idea what it actually its.
It's like saying that you pay taxes to the UN...

>>712419620 (OP)
Both stores sell LICENSE, not a COPY of a game.

>>712426236
>You can install it on another computer though?
Sharing gog games against TOS, you are a pirate.

>>712435295
Steam cope

>>712435198
If you have your wealth valued in Euros you can't protect it from devaluation that is caused by ECB, you economically illiterate moron. In Europe, people are paid wages in and hold their wealth in Euros or currencies linked to the Euro, therefore the EU through ECB can directly tax their wealth without any help from the national governments.
Stop talking about things way beyond your childish understanding of statecraft.

>>712435794
You still don't pay taxes to the EU, moron.

>>712419620 (OP)
GoG is the Lawful Good option, the selection is lacking which means they can't really compete but it's the only platform I don't mind actually supporting instead of feeling like I'm forced to deal with it, just picked up 10 games yesterday for like 25 euros.

>>712435580
No, that's the truth. Gog sells licenses, just like steam. And licenses can be revoked.

>>712436267
They can remove the installer off your local backup? That's not how that works.

>>712436267
Can't copy your stream installer fat retard

>>712436364
it's true. The polish police will break into your house and demand that you delete your local copies.

>>712436364
>>712436452
Without a license it's the same as pirated copy, no difference. The moment you share it, you are breaking eula.

>>712436527
Not true. You still have the proof of purchase, which cannot be nullified.

>>712436527
You're retarded anon

>>712435927
https://european-union.europa.eu/institutions-law-budget/budget/how-eu-budget-financed_en

Here you go, now go fuck yourself you absolute cretin. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that I only needed to explain deferred taxation to you and you already understood direct taxation, but apparently you're so dumb you even need to be told how the EU finances itself outside of deferred methods like loans and printing. I don't know which country you received your education in, but congratulations for being in the running for #1 at having the worst education system. USA apparently has strong competition.
Points 1-3 are direct taxation of people living in EU in case you are too dumb to figure it out.

>>712436629
>which cannot be nullified.
Who cares?
>You have the personal right to use GOG content and services. This right can be suspended or stopped by us in some situations.
>We give you and other GOG users the personal right (known legally as a 'license') to use GOG services and to download, access and/or stream (depending on the content) and use GOG content. This license is for your personal use. We can stop or suspend this license in some situations, which are explained later on.
It's the same as any other store, you buy license and that's it.

>>712437045
>ctrf+f "taxes"
>0 results
I accept your concession

>>712437127
What does the T in VAT stand for?

>>712419620 (OP)
except for the time we tried to force our dogshit launcher and double logins and our OC steam achievements that randomly crashed your games on you *

>>712436629
The difference is that you're given an installer that you can archive locally. You're not supporting DRM practices by buying games on Steam. There is no way to stop you from handing the DRM free installer to a friend on a thumb stick. You don't have to bypass steam DRM (which is easy but still shouldn't be a thing). If the game isn't available on GOG, just pirate and backup. You own the game because you have a local backup server with redundancies if the drives fail.

>>712437213
Trannies?

>>712423402
You will contribute to their war reparations and you will be happy

>>712437359
Let me know which country you live in so I can make fun of it in the future for having the worst education system in the world.

>>712437419
I'll fucking beat your shit in come to Uganda, Northumbrian street 17, France on June 14th, 2024 if you've still got some of the balls your mother gave you.

>>712425368
Worse. It loans money to other countries/politicians. So it's value comes from debt.
The EU should be destroyed. It is the source of poverty, prostitution and slavery. Anyone in favour of it should be killed.

>>712437357
>There is no way to stop you from handing the DRM free installer to a friend on a thumb stick.
That's called piracy and it's illegal. If you are pro-piracy, then what's the point of using gog instead of a torrent?

>>712437917
Point me to the terms saying making a backup is illegal

>>712423343
>quarter
Holy shit you are giving them way too much credit. It's closer to 3%, you heavily underestimate the number of games on Steam

>>712438174
Yes but 99% of them are shitty third world indie early access games kek. Gog has real games.

>>712437917
Because you support the developer. If you have a disc back in the day and you give it to a friend to borrow is it piracy? No it's not, you're lending the game to you friend. Personally I pirate most of my stuff because I don't care about the morality of it, but GOG is the most sensible and moral platform.

>>712419620 (OP)
Are you too retarded to just archive steam games?

>>712422125
Native Linux games are kind of irrelevant in the year of our Lord 2025 doebiet.

Proton runs better usually and the graphics drivers work better and mesa is more optimized for DXVK and VKD3D

>>712438365
Gog just werks

>>712438308
>Because you support the developer.
lol none of the developers for these old games are seeing a dime from gog sales.

>>712438019
It's about sharing, not "backup", retardino. You can't share gog games, they are for personal use only.

>>712438854
You can share gog games though, they literally have an installer retard. Nothing is stopping you from throwing it on a flash drive and sharing it. You own the game; there is no DRM stopping you and no force that can compel you not to share. You retards must be rage baiting or failed primary school.

All GOG users are chads. But the true gigachads are the ones who backup their installers.

>>712419620 (OP)
Steam doesn't enforce DRM, just look at CDPR's own titles there. And GoG still operates with licensing, they even say you shouldn't share you shit since it's personal use only, even though it's literally impossible to track.

>>712423402
Why the fuck is shit such as Romania and Bulgaria even in EU? They can barely be considered europeans

>>712440386
I do that, but I still download games from gog galaxy when I want to play them

>>712419620 (OP)
I bought Space Marine 2, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, and Mass Effect Legendary Edition on GOG.
I didn't, because GOG has no games.

>>712441534
So you rented your slop from steam instead

>>712441703
It's goyslop, and I'm a goy (unlike you, Kosher Karl).

>>712440825
it is true that gypsies and steppe turks aren't European, but neither are you pawel

>>712442180
If Dracula and the "FUCKING 50 DKP MINUS" guy aren't European, my world is shattered.

>>712442334
Remember, Europe ends at Vienna

>>712442514
https://youtu.be/NzfCrWb2Hd4

>>712419620 (OP)
I wonder if all this social media buzz marketing about peak steam concurrent numbers undermines willingness to release on GoG since like 10-15% of the numbers will buy there instead

>>712440825
bulgarians deserve it for putting up with getting shitcanned at every negotiation table and still following up on their promises

>>712442514
Calais you mean

>>712442652
>10-15%
>source: my ass
Nobody buys on GOG when they have a game. It's failing and being held up by CDPR's game sales.
The launcher is a shitty web-only interface like EA/Epic/Ubisoft, and the non-launcher alternative is annoying and gay, especially for large games. Only the most extreme self-labeled revolutionaries buy there.

>>712439260
You are unironically retarded.
You can't share gog games legally. If you do it's the same as a torrent.

>>712442936
I buy it on GoG if I want it and it's on GoG.

>>712443012
>legally
who cares?

>>712419620 (OP)
i prefer magnet links.

>>712443012
GOG shills will use hypocritical reasoning.
>you're renting your games on Steam because it's a license, and license agreements should be followed
>I can share my GOG installer because license agreements don't mean anything
>>712443095
>GoG
Good of Games?

Nobody has been able to argue against the idea of sharing discs with friends. You bought a game on GOG, they give you an easy way to share the games. If they wanted to be jew, they would of just gave you a DRM game that you must bypass like Steam. Whatever, keep buying games on Steam and don't own anything. I'll continue to pirate and occasionally buy on GOG. You can continue to be a retard and buy discs with 15mb of files on it that you can’t share and die from disc rot in 30 years.

Gog is just lying to you there thoughbeit. At least steam is being honest and telling you that legally you own a license.

If you can't resell it then you don't own it. Simple as. Reselling digital game licenses is not a thing unless you specifically buy them to go into your steam inventory and sell them on kinguin or something, and in that case you can't play them without adding them to your library permanently.

>>712443898
It's ackshually easier to share games on Steam, because you just join a group and it's automatic. With GOG, you have to send your installers to someone manually or let them log into your account (illegal and punishable by death in Poland).

oh nooo i lost access to a game ill never play again 30 years from now aaaaaaaaa

>>712444796
I can pass my GOG library to my children (who I'll never have because I'm a 70 year old kissless virgin) as my only legacy, chuddie. :3

>>712419620 (OP)
>You won't be locked out of titles you paid for
>Unless you say.... the word

>>712443898
I mean, family sharing on Steam now makes it very easy to share games
you just add people to your family group and they can play your games. very few games have family sharing disabled. Shit like recent rockstar games and mostly online shit have family sharing disabled, but the vast majority of games allow family sharing

>>712445061
I like the fact that the GOG side of that is arguing against eventualities I've never seen.
>getting locked out of titles you paid for
Everything I ever bought on Steam is still there, including delisted stuff.
>constantly having to prove you own them
Never had that issue on Steam, though I had some disc based games where the key authentication server was down and I couldn't install it for a day or two.

>>712444796
If you had this perspective, you would just pirate everything like I do and not waste money on physical.

>>712444324
You're reselling a game that is 15mb in size, that you won't be able to install in ten years when the servers go down. It only has value for people that don't know any better. Also, you're reselling it at a lower price than you bought it for. Just because you can't resell something doesn't mean you don't own it. You get a NAS drive with multiple HDD's, backup your stuff.

>>712445287
Family sharing is nice, but if I recall you both can't play games at the same time without a bypass. I use to go offline with a batch script after I launched a game so the other person could play games.

>>712445731
They fixed Family Sharing so it's not "if you play any game, the other person can't access your library." You can't play the SAME game without 2 licenses, but that's standard legality. Everything got revamped with the new Family method.

>>712445731
they fixed that
now you can play anything just fine.
as long as you're not trying to play the same game at the same time

>>712444950
first of all, you will never have children
second of all, these games will be unplayable 3 window editions from now

>>712446327
I'm running Windows 11, and I don't think I've encountered a game I couldn't get working somehow. I don't expect that to change in my lifetime (as we'll likely be on 64-bit systems for the next 60 years).

>>712419620 (OP)
Steam also doesn't lock you out of titles you paid for, they're not allowed to, cemented by French and Australian lawsuits. You're also not constantly asked to prove you own them, go into offline mode once and you stay in it indefinitely.
The only thing Steam is is DRM, and only by choice. Devs have to opt into using Steam's very flimsy DRM and if they don't, you can literally just rip the game folder from the Steam folder and it'll still work indefinitely.

>>712419620 (OP)
There's no point in buying games if you can't show it off on your profile with your cheevos and playtime. Pirate gog executables. Give money to valve as a social media platform.

>>712420513
If you mean the client, just use Lutris or Heroic launchers to install and play your games. Or just use Wine to install and link the exe to steam.

>>712429751
You are retarded

>>712419620 (OP)
Why do steamies put up with not being allowed to choose when or if to update their games?