>tight controls
>biggest skill ceiling with snakeing
>expansive mission mode
>best battle modes (Shine Runners is top)
bow to the king of Mario Kart games

>>712432653 (OP)
It’s crazy how much shit they were able to cram into one DS game.

>>712432653 (OP)
garbage game liked by subhuman trannies. the graphics were absolute dogshit

snaking looks gay and it sounds like something gay people do

>>712432863
Gamecube was pretty much a flop and then the DS was a completely insane success that save the company. They went all in on DS games to keep that fire burning.
Companies can release some of the best shit when they're desperate.

>>712433051
But enough about the Switch.

>>712432653 (OP)
MK Wii still has the best tracks.

>>712434526
DS gave us waluigi pinball, peach gardens and that clock one which were cool

>>712432653 (OP)
Mario Kart DS is liked for the same reason Smash Bros Melee is: Because autists get to use weird exploits to pretend like they're "gud at da vidya gam"

>>712435218
You can get good at snake

Do people really like the missions that much, or is it just the bosses?

>>712432653 (OP)
It's the best one and going to school doing download play was amazing but it's still a game designed for pre-teens

>>712435218
so they arent good at the game?

>>712435452
i liked all of them

>>712432653 (OP)
>lowest skill ceiling with snakeing
ftfy

>>712435218
Snaking is easy lmao

>>712432653 (OP)
this still brings me back memories during my middle school years

>>712432653 (OP)
>snoys are praising outdated DS games now because Mario Kart World mindbroke them so hard

>>712434058
Shut the fuck up, snoy

>>712434058
The Switch sold more than the DS ever will. Keep seething

>>712432653 (OP)
>Shine Runners is top
based

>>712436305
playing with friends yeah shine runners is the way to go
but if its CPUs then you gotta do balloons cuz they get btfo in shine runners

>>712436197

>>712436197
>The goy slopped it harder, that means it'd better

>>712436554
lol based.
back when the videogame market was smaller too, and there was no social media to circulate superficial hype, so even more impressive.

>>712436856
also there were less ppl in the world

>>712432653 (OP)
I didnt like the shitty 2D maps otherwise it was pretty great. Fuck snaking though, not giving myself arthritis so I can beat the CPU harder than usual

>>712432653 (OP)
Tryhard shitters need to stay away from Mario Kart

>>712436554
>>712436609
>T-THE DS WAS BETTER
The Switch and Switch 2 are going to go down in history as Nintendo's golden age and you will seethe at both until the end of time.

>>712436856
>no social media to circulate superficial hype
>seething that the Switch is more popular than any prior Nintendo console

>>712432653 (OP)
It has the best tracks hands down

>>712436856
Not only that, but Nintendo had both a home console and a handheld. Switch combined both markets, yet it still didn't make DS numbers. It also had competition on both fronts, while Switch was the only portable around.

>>712432653 (OP)
snaking is an execution barrier, not a skill barrier

>>712432653 (OP)
>tfw snaking on a 3ds with the circlepad
You literally just spin the thing

>>712432653 (OP)
I liked it, but i didn't play it half as much as I played any of the console versions, and that includes the travesty that was Wii.

>>712432653 (OP)
I miss the battle modes

>>712437518
Based, I'm a Nintendo fan and even I accept that the DS was a piece of shit.

snaking is very simple compared to mkw with the tricking, grinding, wall riding, coin management, and drifting. mkw also has snaking but it's situational whereas it's almost nonstop in ds

>>712440152
be real

>>712436856
Uh oh the switchies did NOT like this one.

>>712440586
don't post gay shit like that bro, leave that for the butthurt retard

>>712432653 (OP)
I played this game so much some of the maps still appear in my dreams 20 years later

Like that battle map with the pipes

>>712434058
Seethe.

>>712440152
>tricking, grinding, wall riding, coin management
*hits you with a lightning while you're grinding*

>>712432653 (OP)
I used to play this and it was nothing but dry bones on tank sweeping everyone else. Got old after a while. Still had fun though.

>>712440212
why is it SO SLOW?

>>712440212
That shit looks so painfully slow

>the battle map that took place on a DS
kino

>>712441256
That clip is on 50cc

For me it's Airship Fortress

>>712441256
>>712441461
Retarded snoy.

>>712441175
wtf I got hit with an item in Mario Kart??? :O

>>712433051
>>712433243
>yet another game canceled by the culture wars
This game out a full decade before GG. Why is that relevant to this discussion? Should I discard my copy that I’ve owned for 20 years just to stay in compliance with the 4chan Movement?

>>712440586
>switchies
>Cubesnoys trying to force their own term

>>712434058
>criticize DS game
>DSsnoys start yelling about the Switch out of nowhere
Rent free.

>>712434058
Shut up

>>712432653 (OP)
I haven't played the battle mode in world but world has the other 3 qualities.

>>712432653 (OP)
I was an absolute demon with my beloved egg1

>>712432653 (OP)
Snaking was objectively garbage and if you defend it you're someone who hates playing what Mario Kart is supposed to be.

>>712444471
>>712444649
>Cubesnoy
>DSsnoy
Do you even know what snoy means? Glass houses....

I played this one as a kid and didn't really touch the series for a while after that. More recently I was at a friends place and we played MK8 and I kept getting my ass kicked because I thought you still had to snake.

Serious question: how do you do snaking without hurting your wrist?

I don't miss snaking at all. I could do it just fine, but basically every race turned into "whoever misses one mini turbo loses."

Online was novel, but it's still bizarre that you could only pick half the courses. There's a mod that lets you pick all of them, and I remember people using cheats to pick other courses too.

>>712447516
Snoys like to cling to pre-Switch Nintendo consoles in attempt to undermine the Switch's success. Meleesnoys especially.

OP is blatantly one of them

DS and Wii were the only truly great Mario Kart games. Double Dash would be there too if it wasn't for the godawful control.

>>712432653 (OP)
Mario kart ds was just perfect tightly designed mario kart game. double dash plays soo slippery and loose, 8 plays too safe, fair and boring, 7 plays too slow and sterile even at 150cc and wii plays too chaotic and frantic in a unfun way. Rainbow for ds is the best rainbow racetrack in the franchise while double dash is the absolute worst and literally unplayable.

>>712432653 (OP)
Snaking was dogshit.
I don't love the current hold right to charge mechanic, but snaking was some absoulte retardation. I'm glad it's gone.

>>712449440
Snoy derangment syndrome on full display here.

>>712432653 (OP)
>friend and i were so excited to get to play mario kart online
>immediately get lapped because everyone else is snaking
>never play it again because it's not fun
I'm amazed there were so many people speedrunning a repetitive strain injury.

>>712433051
if you can tell what you're looking at the graphics are fine. anything more than that is just extra.

>>712432653 (OP)
This game has Block Fort so it's instantly a Top 2 Mario Kart game.
It's criminal that they made the greatest map ever for Battle Mode in MK64 and it's only shown up twice total.

>>712451363
>powersliding across the three boosts after the starting line and then dangerously crossing the track right up to the railless edge to hit the fourth one

That one little game was enough to convince my underage me to buy it.
You barely even needed just one copy of the game to play with friends.
Hell, id sometimes would let them borrow my game so i could play as a Shyguy.

world objectively has a much higher skill ceilling, it's barely a week in and time trials autists are already pulling off stuff far more impressive than whatever garbage ds niggers think make their memegame good

>>712432653 (OP)
>snakeing
bad game design

>>712451363
Double dash is very playable you're just a shitter. Currently 100%ing it

>>712452463
feelsbad that some of that is probably getting patched out

>>712452570
they're core mechanics, they can't be "patched out"

>>712447516
Anyone that doesn't like NuZelda ect is a 'snoy'. You'll get called called a snoy just for saying Ocarina is the best Zelda game.

>>712452818
Seems as if getting called a 'snoy' has lost all meaning.

>>712435218
I only played on 50cc cuz i sucked but i love MKDS.

>>712451363
Double Dash's rainbow road was great, what are you smoking? Drifiting across those hairpin turns or the big spiral with the boost pads is loads of fun.

>>712452463
Nothing is more impressive than doing the same inputs again and again.

>>712452564
I went through the pain of beating Mirror Mode All Cup Tour, it controls like crap. What kind of retarded thoughts come into someone's head to make drifting easier than just turning to the left or right? It's the most ridiculous design decision ever. Trying to dodge obstacles on a straightaway is somehow hard as shit because if you turn too little, you get hit, but if you want to actually avoid getting hit you lose control. But somehow, it's easier to dodge that shit while drifting through tight turns in Rainbow Road or DK Mountain. It'd be like if wavedashing was easier than just walking in Melee, or if doing a shoryuken was easier than just doing a normal punch in a fighting game. It makes no god damn sense.

>>712432863
I'm still butthurt none of the new games have half as much

>>712432653 (OP)
There is no such thing as a 'best' Mario Kart game since each Mario Kart is simply unique. it would be more mature and adult-minded to say it is the Mario Kart style that you prefer.

>>712432653 (OP)
Wii was better

>>712435218
It's called emergent gameplay you transexual slave.
Yes. Melee is still the best Smash entry by far and Meleechads are godlike for not switching to inferior iterations unlike Tekken or Street Fighter players.

>>712432653 (OP)
>the king of Mario Kart games
Very low bar.
Why should I play a stupid kart game?

>>712432653 (OP)
All I've ever wanted from newer Mario Karts is to bring back DS balloon battle system (along with block fort and some new vertical maps)
I hate timed balloon battles
I want survival

>>712435218
Snaking was an intended mechanic rather than an exploit. Drifting missions teach you to snake with their high requirements for the number of drifts needed.

>>712453824
That's what's sick about it anon. It's Tokyo drift the game

>>712432653 (OP)
64 is king
this 1 is tied with double dash super mario kart and 8
wii is the worst 1 lol

>>712449440
Why are you so invested in defending a corporation to the point where you hallucinate adversaries on 4chan? Seek help.

>>712453023
Just like every buzzword that subhumans in this board love to overuse, nothing new.

>>712455017
That's the sad thing, the drifting is cool. I have absolutely no complaints about it. Everything else about the game is good. But normal turning feels like cancer and it completely ruins an otherwise good game.

>>712436554
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/hard_soft/index.html.
Nice outdated numbers.

snaking is gay as fuck and you can't change my mind

Is it just me or has the general opinion (i.e. outside 4chan) of 64 totally changed? I find a lot of people shitting on it nowadays when it seemed like it was hailed as the best in the series for a long time

MK 7 and 8 sucked absolute shit, the controls felt stiff and shit

>>712455579
To be honest, I don't think there's ever a turn where I don't drift in a MK game, so I haven't noticed.

>>712432653 (OP)
>>712432863
how did they drop the ball so hard with 7?
pretty much everything about it is a downgrade

>>712432653 (OP)
i miss nintendo not sucking
wii era was shit but ds games r fun
game cube n64 snes nes wii u
switch is like a fucking mobile game console

>>712455606
Le meow

>>712455971
There's plenty of parts where you won't be drifting or won't have time to drift, like straightaways or very tight segments. And it's not like you're going to drift around a shell or a banana in these parts if there's no turn coming up, you have to turn normally, and that's where it sucks to control.

>>712456342
This is hybrid console, not hybrid sales console.

>>712455807
Millennials no longer control the online "consensus" and it's not like other N64 games where mods are able to salvage it.

>>712455807
The people who grew up with it no longer control the narrative online.

>>712432653 (OP)
It's honestly really hard for me to decide what the best game in the series is. 8 is pretty much a better version of 7, Wii is a better version of Double Dash and the original game is a better version of Super Circuit. The various games feel distinct enough to me beyond those similar entries that I genuinely can't choose a favorite. I just like Mario cars that much, apparently.
DS absolutely has the best side content, though. It's a crime that mission mode hasn't shown up again since.
I still haven't played the new game yet since I don't own a Switch 2, but I think they missed a huge opportunity to bring missions back. It would work perfectly with the sort of open world thing they did in that game, I would think.

>>712454526
It's fun

>>712456589
millenials grew up with MK DS, the zoomer opinion is around wii shit.

>>712457097
Millenials are DoubleDashtrannies
Wii and DS are both well within the reach of zoomers.

>>712455807
64 is just terrible compared to Crash and Diddy Kong Racing.

>>712457249
lol crash has always been trash, diddy kong was somewhat better because it featured 3 kind of vehicles but I always returned to MK64 for the multiplayer, the items and gameplay just feel way better than the other 2

>>712457184
you do realise MK DS came out 2 years after doubledash. The cutoff point is MK Wii, not only because it came out 3 years after DS but because the wii was the shitty console millenials handed off to their zoomer siblings because they stopped playing nintendo and bought a ps3 or 360.

>>712457085
No, it's not. Have you ever driven a kart? THAT is fun. It has Formula 1 acceleration.
This pathetic bing bing wahoo shit can never compete.

>>712457097
DS and Wii were relevant at the same time even if Wii released later. Besides, think about DS' longevity. Zoomers absolutely grew up with it. I should know, I am one.

>>712454526
They're very simple games that can be fun to play with family and friends who otherwise aren't all that into video games.

The DS Mario Kart was the best since it also allowed you to play with any group of people who owned DSes at all as long as a single person in the group owned the game.

>>712453023
what do you mean? you must be some seething fedora pajeet tranny cuck autist redditor snoy tendie schizo shill.
did I miss any?

>>712457960
Literally the opposite of what I want.

>>712457982
Download Play was so sick, yes. MKDS was the single best game that used it, too.

>>712458061
That's fair but kind of sad.

>>712458102
Minigames in SM64DS/NSMB too.

>>712455807
64 was the nostalgia option for kids with an N64 and other kids to play with. But going back to play, it feels too basic compared to later Mario Kart games. Besides that, they had the buttfucking retarded idea of making the fastest characters also the ones with the highest acceleration.

>>712457184
It depends on the millennial: '80s millennials grew up with MK64 and '90s millennials grew up with Double Dash and Super Circuit

>>712457950
The absolute oldest zoomer was only 8 when MK DS launched which means the vast majority of that generation were too young to give a shit about that game, especially not to the level where snaking or multiplayer with friends would have been a big deal. MK DS is firmly a millennial game that some zoomers got into. MK wii is firmly a zoomer game that very few millenials got into. when discourse shifts to sucking off MK wii then you know millennials are no longer in the conversation.

>>712457950
I don't doubt you and people your age played DS but that's only maybe a third of the entire zoomer generation at most. Most zoomers grew up with Wii, 7 or to a much lesser extent 8 on Wii U

>>712432653 (OP)
I kneel

>>712432653 (OP)
Love me some DS. Played the shit out of it with my cul de sac buddies as a kid and beating 150cc is one of my fondest memories. Battle mode was great and all the different karts you can use really made replayability a joy

I set up my PC wheel to work with wii and I’ve been having a blast too, albeit its hard to turn back and forth for the boost on some turns

>>712432863
Yeah its all about cutting corners now

>>712455807
64 is still fun. Great courses and battle mode + easy to pick up and play

That said
>no vs mode, only 4P races or Grand Prix
>rubberbanding is hands down the worst in the series
>audio cuts out if more then 2 players
>courses like bowsers castle have turns that you can’t possibly avoid hitting walls

I think the original is the only great Mario Kart. Tight courses, tons of hazards and tight turning.

>>712459926
Soul
>>712440212
Soulless

>>712460449
I think it's at least criminally underrated compared to the rest of the series.

>>712460449
It's not my favorite, but I liked how you could make insanely high jumps with a mushroom at certain segments.

>>712455807
i still think it’s more fun than crash and DKR with friends. the shit you can do with items is a diabolical. i always find new ways to piss someone off every time i play.

My memory is that while Mario Kart 64 was always liked, vocal online fan opinion was always shit talking it in favor of Diddy Kong Racing. I don't ever remember a Mario Kart 64 supremacy movement.

Are there any hacks/mods that let you play more than 4 player wifi?

>>712461417
I think it's mostly to do with the fact that for a long time the majority of vidya-related YouTubers were people who grew up with an N64 so of course they thought MK64 and other N64 games (namely Banjo) were the best.

I've tried to get into Double Dash but I can't. It just handles strangely.

>>712462350
Is there anyone who thinks that non-N64 Banjo games are the best?

>>712463119
You know what I mean

>>712460286
racing games are always about cutting corners

>>712455984
That's how a bunch of 3DS sequels felt.
Prettier, but fewer features.

>>712459167
>The absolute oldest zoomer was only 8 when MK DS launched which means the vast majority of that generation were too young to give a shit about that game,
MKDS only lost relevance when the 7 came out. There's this ridiculous concept on here that people can't experience media or other forms of entertainment years after it was made available.

>>712432653 (OP)
It's good but the gba Mario Kart is criminally underrated

>>712465083
It feels like a reaction to Wii and DS.
>Hey boss, everyone is snaking in DS, what do we do
>fine, let's change mini-turbos, but as a new feature we can have bikes, they'll have some different abilities from karts
>Sir, everyone is now tryharding with Funky Kong Flame Runner
>god dammit, kill that too, Mario Kart needs to be the ultimate casual game

>>712455984
7 didn’t even have a VS. mode. What a disappointment.

>>712432653 (OP)
Excellent game. I don't know how it ended up so good at a time when Nintendo was putting out total dog shit like NSMB and Phantom Hourglass. I wasn't autistic enough to get into snaking, though

>>712465415
Yeah... That's how generational media works, if you were the right age at the time people gave a shit about it then that piece of media was part of your generations collective experience. Experiencing a piece of media 6 years after everyone stopped giving a shit puts you in a weird edge case.

Mk ds was replaced by mk Wii the same way Mk7 was replaced by 8.

Anyway this is far beyond the original argument which was some retard suggesting mario kart ds was purely a zoomer game.

>>712432653 (OP)
The game adding retro courses and letting you have races in whichever track you wanted was kino, i don't know why 64 and DD didn't let you do that

>>712465415
lol i put gen 1-3 pokemon on my zoomer cousins ipods and they loved it
kids love old games
when i have kids ima give them cheap gtx 10 seiries pc and old consoles hacked with all the games to keep them away from harmful propaganda.

>>712455807
I grew up with 64 and love it, but there's a lot wrong with it. The physics are so fucked up the lightest karts have the highest top speed. "We can't run Grand Prix with 4 players so let's just spawn a bunch of mini-bombs in VS mode instead" was pretty shitty too. Grand Prix was also piss easy compared to, say, Double Dash. There's also not a lot of content compared to later games.

It's a good game with charming aesthetic flourishes and tricks but not a masterpiece, just the first 4 player kart racer people got their hands on

>>712455807
It definitely did, I think it has to do with people that grew up with it not monopolizing opinion on it. Remember, Link to the Past was often considered the best Zelda game over a decade ago, now it's barely even talked about.

Snaking in DS added too much depth and skill for Nintendo. Same reason every Smash after Melee was intentionally made shittier.

Factual

>>712472604
>super circuit is...le bad!
Fuck you!

>>712474942
It's the first Mario Kart I ever played and it sucks balls

>>712452715
Some of the wall ride skips can be patched by simply making the wall not be ride-able.

>>712472604
64 is too high up
People love it for the nostalgia and it has some good tracks but the driving mechanics are perhaps the worst in the series
MK Wii was pretty bad as well and should 100% be ranked lower than 7 or 8

>>712471382
That was the minority opinion the moment Ocarina of Time came out.

MK8D is the best and I'm tired of pretending it's not. It was the best even before they doubled the track count. It handles the best.

>>712452463
None of that wall-ride rail shit is usable outside of time trials because if you get hit by a shell or lightning you're gigafucked

They will NEVER surpass DS so long as snaking is gone

>>712475823
You're probably right

>>712475823
Replaying Wii, it absolutely has better driving mechanics than 7 or 8, although the vehicle balance is definitely fucked and maybe it's just me, it's way too extreme with blue shells. I swear these shits appear way too often. Still, I'd play Wii over 7 or 8.

>>712475939
It honestly just handles like DS to me except you can't control when you get a miniturbo.

>>712455984
7 was ultra rushed because 3DS faceplanted out of the gate

>>712476641
I'd play Wii over base 8, but 8 deluxe over Wii.
Wii always felt like a downgrade from Double Dash and DS.

>>712433987
Which perfectly explains why new Nintendo games are so lazy.

>>712436197
Amazing how Switchniggers have positioned themselves against older Nintendo consoles.

>>712477067
I'm not good at playing Wii, but it has its own techniques and interesting aspects that I can get the appeal. 8 is sort of fun, but doesn't feel involved enough in terms of the mechanics. I just hate how Double Dash controls so it's the last game I want to go back to, even if it does a lot of things well.

>>712477403
Double Dash is weird, but worth it. The double racer mechanic is really well done, there's some really great tracks, and the battle mode is the best in the franchise.

>>712475823
I honestly think the driving in 64 feels better than Double Dash, which really surprises me since I’ve played way more of the latter than the former.
I like the dual racer and character-specific powerups in Double Dash, but much to my surprise, I think it’s actually one of the least enjoyable games in the series.

>>712432863
DS was the last era when Nintendo actually cared about making good games.

>>712432653 (OP)
I like MKDS's drift system but the problem is that you have to do it on a tiny DS. It makes my fuckin hand hurt after a while.

>>712477514
I already played through it recently, which is why I don't want to go back. I got the gold kart and decided I had enough.

>>712478663
Ah, fair. Yeah I didn't love the singleplayer of that game, I loved it for the multiplayer with friends.

bump

>>712463771
I think you need to leave.