Thread 712455450

>>712455450 (OP)
Xbox didn't even get through 2 gens before shooting itself in the foot, and its been obviously declining in quality since the NXE update on the Xbox 360. Its a shame that they fumbled it so hard, but it will not be missed.

>>712455450 (OP)
it'll because of the Xbox One itself and 343 Studios destroying Halo

Microsoft will abandon the console market and turn Xbox into a PC gayming brand like Razer, RO and Alienware, but instead of designing their own products they will license the brand to other companies like a "built for W11 and gamepass" seal of quality.

>>712456115
i think that will cause some confusion among casuals

>>712455450 (OP)
The only good news coming out of this is maybe I can play my OG Xbox and 360 games on PC.

Who gives a fuck about a Xbone handheld. It's going to be a bad steamdeck and an even worse switch.

>>712455450 (OP)
They literally own windows. They need to make sure it runs games well before they make their own new handheld platform.

>>712455450 (OP)
>tfw have series s and budget PC that's beginning to struggle on AAA
>can't be fucked to build a new PC that keeps up with the next generation of consoles
>PlayStation is gay
I hope there is a new Xbox console in the works because any AAA gaming I do in the future will rely on its existence

You can see the writing on the wall once they put their games on PlayStation.

>>712457147
Microsoft doesn't care about gaming on desktop, because they don't have to. All the OEMs buy Intel CPUs, Nvidia GPUs, and Windows OSes for that segment.

Handhelds are another matter because Microsoft just can't slim their platform down enough to fit into them. Just like they couldn't slim it down enough to fit into the low power netbook segment that ultimately got taken over by a Gentoo based Linux distribution from Google.

>>712456706
As if casuals aren't already confused by Xbox's branding.
>Xbox
>Xbox 360
>Xbox 360 S
>Xbox 360 E
>Xbox One
>Xbox One S
>Xbox One X
>Xbox Series S
>Xbox Series X
None of this makes sense.

>>712455781
360 got lucky because Sony fumbled the PS3's launch

>>712455450 (OP)
I knew it, I fucking knew it! Retards here kept stating that Microsoft was just putting it on hold, I knew it was fucking canceled. I did good to drop Microsoft's worthless asses when the canned the handheld. Nintendo and Valve won, it's over.

>>712456809
>Who gives a fuck about a Xbone handheld
I gave a fuck about that Xbox handheld, because those fuck bags did this, it pushed me towards the Steam Deck 2, I'm don't with Microsoft, I'm done with Sony, I'm done with home console gaming. The only console I will own in the future is a Switch 2.

Everyone made fun of Steam machines yet here we are with Xbox machines.

>>712455781
The OG xbox and 360 were by an internal team that didn't wasn't directed by Microsoft because it was just a quirky side project.
Then MS saw they money they could make and took over. It's also why xbox will never recover.

>>712455450 (OP)
This was obvious for years. Ill say it again. The next Xbox is going to be a Windows PC that boots right into the Xbox OS. It will fall in line with the "This is an Xbox" thing too. The Microsoft Surface will be "for business" Xbox will be "for gaming". They'll also license the Xbox name out to other OEMs and ROG Ally is the first one to get it. You'll start seeing "Xbox Ready" laptops and PCs (or whatever they want to call it) which will be devices that meet the minimum requirements for Microsoft to classify them as OK for playing Xbox games on.

The next Xbox is going to be a "console/PC hybrid". Called this shit a while ago.

>>712456115
lmao wtf. No, whatever was said in OPs post sounds like their step forward. They won't even make it a PC gaming brand, they're just going to develop that xbox app more and probably chage it into a fleshed-out service.

They still have corporate pc markets to rake in mad money, they aren't going to behave desperately like how you're painting it.

>>712455450 (OP)
He won. Bigly.

>>712461839
Yes, he did. Microsoft is a joke.

>>712455450 (OP)
Yes, yes, two more weeks.

>>712456706
>>712459393
It doesn't make sense if you're mentally retarded.

>>712458747
That PS brand is full of brand cultists who will gladly consume $80 cross console games, then beg daddy MS for more?

Oh, and say goodbye to the remaining PS game mainstays. They will all be replaced by Xbox games and Sony won't even care.

>>712461839
Gaben was always on MS's side, and continues to be to this day.

>>712455450 (OP)
People have been saying this for years but they're still making Xboxes and controllers and everything

>>712460826
Valve is going to crush them so hard that it's going to make the beaten they took in console gaming look like a joke in comparison.

>>712462334
It's happening for real this time, when Tom Warren says it's happening, it's happening. The layoffs coming at the end of the month will be for the Xbox Hardware Team, screencap this post.

>>712462372
*beating

lol you wish

Frutiger aero is back and Xbox needs to redo the Xbox 360 magic.

What a weird timeline.

>>712455450 (OP)
Xbox makes money off of Game Pass and nothing else. If they kill Xbox hardware, they kill the rest of their business. They're free to cancel their shitty W11 handheld but their living room console line will continue no matter how poorly they sell, at least until Microsoft successfully sues Sony into allowing alternate storefronts on Playstation.

>>712463902
Both Xbox and PlayStation won't exist as a hardware company in the future, only Nintendo and Valve will.

Just don't get these shit "handhelds"
When I think handheld I think GBA size, not this shit

Jeetsoft is so fucking dumb it's unreal.

>>712466256
I'm glad I dropped this shitty ass company, they're too retarded to win anything.

CAN THESE FUCKERS COMMIT TO ANYTHING
STOP PIVOTING SO MUCH

SFOP BEING REACTIVE

>>712455450 (OP)
>the corporation that made consoles cancer is leaving the console space
Good. Just a shame all consoles are irreparable cancer now and PC has to pick up the slack.

>>712467684
Nintendo and Valve will save gaming in Sony's and Microsoft's absence.

>>712455450 (OP)
>MS gaming making more money than sony/nintendo
>/v/ with a 100x microscope on xbox hardware
retards, the lot of you

>>712468434
Shut up, shill. No one gives a shit about this; they backstabbed their console base. Go shill somewhere else, pajeet.

Looks bad.
Scrap it.
Use a phone, put sticks in the screen area. Have triggers under every finger, adaptive, half for one button, full for another. Only index finger triggers free of that.
Optional on screen DPAD, or invisible swipe up for up etc.

Face buttons never should have existed.
Triggers don't need to be big.
System should look like a phone, function as a phone. Stream from servers, personal or other consoles electing to serve. Or connect USB4 cables to a power bank and a system spec worn on the hip/thigh/armpit. Or spec too streamed in using wireless. Point being what is held looks like a phone. Passes as one. Looks good. All black or all white, no grey posing as silver.
Make calls with it. Use it in PC or android mode. Or phone OS. Easy software switch.
Waterproof.

Under no circumstances let it use Steam. Steam is degenerate anyone that uses it should be killed. Steam should be banned software on it.

Needs Xbox's 12bit colour.
Hall effect thumbsticks with different sensing mechanism and securing, not 2 point stupidity.

Encourage migration from Sony, Steam, Gog, Nintendo etc by offering the same games at a very small cost to buy for Xbox if proof of owning them on other platforms is made. PC versions are optimal, but not infected with steam. Punishing users for using steam possible too. As in if their payment system, credit, bank, has a history of selling humanity to steam then them banned from playing.

Specs can be larger than usual if worn on body, contoured, in parts, but can't use fans, unless fans detachable and aid body cooling. Preferably no heat sink either. Shouldn't protrude much. Worn under clothes.
Let users use PC versions. But have games tailored for use with the system to maximise battery life and looks. Eg extremely low res, DLSS.
3D screen. Gorilla glass. Comfortable to tap text on.

>>712460198
actually og and 360 were supposed to compete with sony's ps2 and ps3 allowing you to install linux and upgrade the system, which itself was a ploy to do tax evasion as a personal computer was not a luxury electronic and didnt get as much tax. once that eu law was revoked, playstation dropped linux, even though it did squat for piracy, and microsoft followed suit by gutting the internal team you are talking about.

>>712455450 (OP)
>Microshart abandons console hardware to focus on software
>Tries to be steam but worse
>Fails
>At a meeting to reassure investors Phil Spencer is stabbed 23 times
>The final stab comes from Todd Howard, who is crowned Microshafts new supreme commander of PC gaming
>Using the infinite resources of Nigrostonk's Todd completes his opus, the game he has always wanted to make but never had the technology or finances to
>Starfield 2
>Bombs
>Nigglestack goes bankrupt
>In a final act of spite against his hated enemy (gamers) Todd Howard livestreams his murder-suicide pact with life-partner Emil, driving into the grand canyon with the only existing copy of TES6 and 30 barrels of nitroglycerin
>In game footage is later released proving the game was actually good

>>712468950
>all these fuckups
>somehow still highly profitable

>>712468434
>bought Actiblizz King for literal billions
>OH MY GOD WERE MAKING SO MUCH MONEY NOW
Retard.

>>712455450 (OP)
It has been obvious for years now that Xbox was moving into a fully Netflix-like platform.
Now that they have seen the potential of PC handhelds and what Valve is doing with SteamOS, also with the increased adoption of linux, they are shitting their pants and have changed course a bit.
I guarantee their strategy will be the exact same as Valve's: "Console platforms" with licensing to hardware manufacturers and maybe a piece of haedware here and there.

Have they tried bring back sovl?

>>712469664
>make money
>NO it doesnt count because X!!!

>>712470053
>says guy who stole from Xerox

>>712455450 (OP)
The fuck does that even mean.. Phil has CONSTANTLY jobb'd software, all those studios they bought has either been shut down or canned

>>712469664
>Actiblizz king deal has already paid itself off in revenue in 2024, turning any future revenue after operating costs into profit.

Why yes that is indeed how investing and acquisitions work. No amount of goal-post shifting will change the very real fact that MS has slingshot itself into a very strong (and growing) market position in gaming. It still remains to be seen just how long MS will keep their current momentum however. A game like South of Midnight doing poorly matters significantly less when its just another offering for a gamepass library that's being effectively subsidized almost entirely by Call of Duty at this point.

All of this if anything is just a smart pivot for the company. Microsoft has, and always will, suck fat shit at hardware manufacturing because they are at their very core a software company. Pivoting to a service + software approach (while letting actual manufacturers handle the hardware for them) is just the right approach even if they were doing better in the hardware business, cutting out that split in resources means more of those freed resources and budget can be put into things like developing a more gaming friendly version of Windows (like they're apparently doing with that Xbox Rog) I fully expect whatever is their next-gen Xbox to effectively be a home version of that Xbox Rog (that is to say, effectively a PC running a more gaming optimized version of Windows 11 designed to be easier to operate with a gamepad while offering the option to boot into full Windows 11 mode, giving the user the option to both play from the Xbox app, as well as any other launchers you might use to play games like Steam.) It will be interesting to see if the approach of finally allowing consumers to unify their "Xbox" and PC game libraries (or allowing typically console consumers to finally access a PC library) will be enough to finally push the needle in any way.

>>712470053
The iPhone 5 looks good. Everything else from Apple looks and performs like utter shit. Apple's business strategy was to sell to idiots who were intimitated with tech. Left behind, late to the party losers. Who wanted to feel like winners. Feel minimalism is elegance, simplicity superiority. Doing nothing artistic and advanced. They appealed to bad natures concerned with appearance instead of accomplishment. People using max shit didn't seek to do anything. Just receive attention, taking credit for what contributes and advances.

Bad people, niggers, students etc are willing to pay more for less function and to them: status.

>>712469664
>OH MY GOD WERE MAKING SO MUCH MONEY NOW

Yes? Who's playing Candy Crush? Call of Duty? Overwatch 2? World of Warcraft? Diablo?

>>712471094
Which ones?

>>712463902
>Xbox makes money off of Game Pass
While technically game pass is profitable if you only look at the service itself but it definitely isn't profitable enough to cover the development cost of the games they put on there. At least not currently. If xbox sales were at least competitive with the ps5, game pass subs might actually be close enough to fund multiple AAA games a year but since it is looking like it would at least take 2 more gens at best to catch up back to sony, MS might just call it quits and focus on being the biggest game publisher in the world.

>>712471476
>Actiblizz king deal has already paid itself off in revenue in 2024.
That's not how revenue works retard. They would need to make $70 billion dollars in PROFIT not revenue from Actiblizz for it to be paid off.

>>712471476
It's a dumb pivot, most will move to the Steam Deck and just not buy Microsoft's ridiculously expensive hardware whether it's from them or OEM partners. Game Pass is dead and will die, they might as well just put their shit on Steam and call it a day, it's over.

>>712473052
ABK was already paid off when they bought it.

>>712472798
They don't need to fund multiple AAA games. They're doing fine with what they have now.

>>712473071
>Game Pass is dead

Kill yourself, you lying ゴキブリ.

>>712472616
fable legends, scalebound, the team who made hi-fi rush, the cancelation of Blizzard's 'Odyssey' project

>>712470803
That was steve jobs entire MO, an expert bullshitter and thief

>>712470053
Irrelevant to the conversation.

>>712473778
>fable legends, scalebound
Old games.

>the cancelation of Blizzard's 'Odyssey' project
Wasn't going anywhere, and Blizzard was foolish to keep it on after losing their lawsuits.

>hi-fi rush
And they sold the IP to a studio that could handle development better than Tango. It's not a big deal when it was brought every other console. Same goes for the Ori and Minecraft games.

>>712473620
Game Pass is the console, future Xbox consoles will be unaffordable. PC Game Pass has significantly less users. Yes, Game Piss is dying next gen, shill.

These kind of presentations never reveal the prices. Same thing with the Switch 2 announcement.
My prediction is probably $1000

>>712455450 (OP)
Steam machines are back

>>712455450 (OP)
if Valve couldn't do it it will be a common MS blunder.

>>712462285
Cope harder, xbox cuck.

>>712455450 (OP)
99% of PC players buy on Steam. Microsoft isn't exactly selling blockbuster games either. How do they expect to make money?

>>712457147
aren't they already doing a cut down windows for their asus collab? a testbed for things to come maybe, think steamos but win based and ms store front.

>Microsoft couldn't beat a dying PlayStation from Sony's home console brand
>Microsoft thinks they can beat Nintendo in the handheld market and Valve in the PC market
>Sony, who already lost before in the handheld market, thinks they can come back and compete against both Nintendo and Valve in the handheld market
What the hell is wrong with Microsoft and Sony?

>>712455924

I didn't watch the whole video but is it me or did the cheering die down?

>>712483105
It did lmao. That's the joke.

>>712455924
>The era of handhelds amirite? Wow!
Portable consoles are not real handhelds and I'm tired of pretending its the same thing

>>712455924
>>712483105
>>712484368
>>712484737
>haha wow isn't that hype? haha portable Xbox

Cockroaches are running scared.

>>712455924
Everyone jumping late into the portable handheld space that Nintendo and Valve already owns is just pathetic. The shills hyping it up aren't helping.

>>712455450 (OP)
What a shame, at least their controllers peaked at the 360.

>>712486554
>at least their controllers peaked at the 360.
No they didn't.

>>712455450 (OP)
This has been obvious since they started selling their exclusives in every other platforms available. In the future we will see handheld or prebuilt gaming PC from companies like ASUS or Lenovo with "Powered by XboxOS" branding.

>>712487302
When this flops, you'll only see a Steam Deck 2 and prebuilt handheld PCs using the SteamOS.

>>712487689
yeah most likely, slapping the xbox logo onto an ROG ally is already pretty much conceding the entire UMPC space to steam/valve, they won't or can't do anything more in that space than license shit out

>>712455450 (OP)
Consider this you crusty puss-filled faggot: You are a little better to have you and I can get you some food for you are we gonna have it on good for me or try it Nigel and then get a hold on it for you and let me get back I don't have a chance I will have a call back minutes ago I got it in my email to the other one of my friends I have to go back to work and then I can get something to do with the kids in the US and I will have to go to work and see if they can help me with a lot of them and they will probably be available to talk to me about the time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time to get to work with you too

>>712487689
That will never happen because devs are still making their PC games for Windows, not Linux. The advantages SteamOS has over Windows right now are a better handheld/console-like experience, slightly better performance, and price. If Microsoft can fix their OS, then price will be the only advantage. Meanwhile, SteamOS still can't play many popular online games that normalfags love and there's also gamepass.

>>712488772
>slightly better performance
steamOS/arch linux CRUSHES windows in relative performance and battery life
windows has always fucking sucked in mobile applications even as far back as 90s laptops and PDAs or other touch-tablet devices, that won't change unless they have an actual unified effort to do so- and that goes against their hiring practices and current AI dick-riding

>>712488772
Here's the problem with that. The price, the price, the Price, the PRICE, THE PRICE! You cannot sell a handheld at $800+ and expect people to buy it when Valve makes one for just $400 and will make a successor for either $500 or $550. Xbox is dead, PlayStation will follow. You're incredibly delusional, retarded, or both if you think this garbage will sell, it's over, give up.

>>712455450 (OP)
reminder that the xbox was never an honest attempt at a console
xbox was microsoft's attempt to attack and discredit japan's video game industry

>>712490129
lol yeah it was straight up microsoft taking the amazon approach to video game dominance, buy their way to the top and then rake in money for eternity as a subscription service/the sole option

just like amazon it crashed and fucking burned, it just took way longer to do it because of how big microsoft is

>>712488939
Well they are now going all in to make Xbox the gaming OS so things might be different. I really love this development. A future with no more console exclusive is exciting.

>>712460198
As soon as J. Allard and Seamus Blackley left, it was over for the X-box.

>>712490272
there's literally no point, microsoft is extremely horny to become the next steam. steam still exists. it will die like every single other attempted stealing of steam's thunder

>>712490272
Oh my god, will you please just stop shilling, this has become embarrassing now.

>>712490325
Don't forget Peter Moore, when he left, it was like they died over night.

>>712455450 (OP)
>Posts a picture of new Xbox hardware
>Thinks that Xbox hardware is getting canned
KEK

>>712490563
that's ASUS hardware...

>>712490563
>rog
>Microsoft hardware
Retard

>>712490563
>says ROG right on the handheld
>it's Microsoft hardware
Kill yourself, shill

>>712490680
>>712490747
Other game systems are made from other companies parts. Switch and Switch 2 are Nvidia machines.

>>712490350
>microsoft is extremely horny to become the next steam
What they want to be is the Netflix of gaming. That's why they don't care if you can access Steam in their PC handheld.

>>712490858
yes i do remember purchasing an nvidia switch 2, i'll put it right next to my xbox ally x™

>>712490563
linux trannies are getting desperate

>rumors are coming out that this and the PS handheld will be sold at a profit
It's over

>>712455450 (OP)
Xbox commits suicide
Sony does the same
Tendies somehow win by default.

>>712455781
Xbox is a great example of how corporate suit greed can totally destroy a brand.

i figured microsoft's long term solution to killing xbox hardware would be to make an official compatibility layer that runs xbone and xbox series games on standard windows PCs. if they don't do this and just try to sell "play anywhere" windows ports of games as "xbox games", and devices that only run windows games as an "xbox", then obviously no one will care and it will bomb. people buy an xbox to play xbox games.
people are obviously unreceptive to the "this is an xbox" marketing and find it embarrassing, and microsoft should pull back on it. the xbox audience they have left is minuscule, i don't know why they're trying to spurn it completely.
every big company is chasing the same bag of establishing themselves as a game streaming platform to try to outlive consoles, but microsoft isn't being nearly as subtle about it as the competition. even if anyone who bought the last couple gens of xbox is really stupid, they deserve a LITTLE more respect from the fucking company that sells them.

It'll truly be over once the Master Chief Collection comes out on Playstation followed by every other game
>but it's on PC!
Can't play offline without the fucking log-in

>>712490974
It's a Nvidia machine with Nintendo branding.

>>712491069
Nintendo and Valve barely did shit yet won because their competition are retarded.

>>712491218
They will say they're working on a software emulator for OG Xbox-Xbox Series games but the reality is that they will give up on this and just tell people to use Xbox Play Anywhere and Xbox Cloud, screencap this post.

>>712491034
This gen was sold at a loss and they didn't see any bigger numbers at least on xbox's side. Makes sense they don't give a fuck anymore. They even raised the price on the series s to it's actual cost now

>>712491470
>Nintendo and Valve barely did shit yet won because their competition are retarded.
I miss the early 00's when you had to be actually good to survive, Nintendo was struggling and Sega died, that's how tough it was

>>712491290
The Halo MCC news for PlayStation came and went, no one even cared. PlayStation will not bring back Halo trilogy multiplayer numbers nor will it bring back Reach multiplayer numbers, it's over.

this thread was made by a snoy fanatic. still salty that niggas can play PS games on a xbox handheld? KEEEEEK

>>712455450 (OP)
>The end of Xbox is here

Whatever you say, faggot. You faggots have been predicting the end flis near for Xbox since it first came out.

>>712491498
They did that because they're no longer restocking them, Xbox is pretty much dead and Microsoft wants to sell off the last home consoles before they fully move to this "Xbox PC" shit.

>>712491578
I want to go back

>>712491690
nononono ANON THIS TIME ITS FORREEEEEAAALLL. desu its just snoys on suicide watch. Next Gen xbox will legit be a hybrid & snoys are panicking that once it plays PS games.. there console is useless.

>>712491142
>Xbox is a great example of how corporate suit greed can totally destroy a brand.

That's not how you spell Playstation.

>>712491609
What do you expect of these cockroaches? As soon as you shine truth on them, they scatter.

>>712471486
Shit take

>>712491594
I dont care for multiplayer anymore, I just want to have a physical copy of Halo 2A and to have newer copies of Reach, CEA, and 3 because my Xbox 360 wont last forever

>>712491865
>That's not how you spell Playstation.
It can be both brands, you know. At least snoy will be getting a console next gen. Don Mattrick was the deathknell for the Xbox brand and you goddamn well know it. It never recovered from this.

>>712491069
At least PlayStation can get back to its roots with more Japanese games, but what can Xbox get back?

>>712492049
>Mattrick

Yawn. Show me a new trick, mutt.

>>712491578
>sega died
a large share of the responsibility lies with that asshoke kalinske who made sega take millionaire losses when he left millions of genesis units unsold

>>712491609
>>712491690
>>712491836
This is cope, both the Xbox and PlayStation are fucked in the future. Sony and Microsoft will go fully third party and release their shit on Switch and Steam. There is no reason to purchase hardware that will be $700-$800+ when you can get a Switch 2 for $450 and a Steam Deck 2 for either $500 or $550. You'll be a fool if you do given how much better SteamOS is from Windows.

>>712492129
Sony lost all of their Japanese devs to Nintendo, kek.

>>712492259
I still miss windows 2000. so lightweight and snappy. all it needs is 64-bit support, PAE, DEP, memory isolation, ASLR, and other stuff modern OSes have like wi-fi, codecs, and fonts. the rest will sort itself out

>>712492049
xbox/microsoft confirmed it MANY times that a next gen console is in the works - you faggot snoys just make stories up everyday LOL.

>>712492259
next gen xbox will have access to steam... whats PS gonna have? sony dropped the ball this gen and the audience got to witness it. if xbox properly integrates steam, what will sony do? there exclusives are becoming extremely scarce

>>712459393
>ESSEX
Essex Box

>>712491578
When Nintendo struggles one gen, it strikes back with masterpieces like Mario Galaxy and BotW. When Nintendo has record sales, it jacks up prices and makes everyone else follow suit.

>>712492826
Again, no one is buying a $1000+ Xbox or $900-$1000 PS6, who cares what either will do, it's over. Shilling Steam on Xbox is just admitting that Valve won and Microsoft didn't win shit.

>>712492826
>if xbox properly integrates steam
That would be the only thing that could save the brand, you're right. Leaning full-tilt into prebuilt PC tier specs with Steam support but with the couch-compatibility of a console could definitely work.

why does every single chink controller have RGBT in the fucking analog now

Why did you feel the need to make another thread, OP?
>>712490598

>>712492976
i think this handheld is a stepping stone... i dont want sony or microsoft to die but lets be real... consoles have hit a ceiling... we need proper innovation and if microsoft can nail it, kudos to them

>>712461839
Imagine how embarrassing it must be to have a video game company headed by an former employee build a better platform for games meant to run on your own platform.

>>712493162
He's either a coping Snoyroach or coping Xrat, coping that PlayStation is dying and Xbox is dead so now he's trying to push the Nintendo is dead narrative. It's not Nintendo's or Valve's fault that Sony and Microsoft are retarded.

>>712493226
I think the most important part is taking advantage of full mod support. As a console pleb, you have no idea how much I've wanted to play with mods but couldn't because my PC can only run shit like Rimworld and Kenshi.

>>712493226
Valve already did which is why both of those dumb fucks are porting their games to Steam and verifying their games for Steam Deck.

>>712492826
>xbox turning into pc-lite market where valve makes all the money in software sales is actually a win for microsoft!

>>712455450 (OP)
windows already exists lmfao this is such fucking cope lmfao

>>712455781
Meh. Save for Halo, Xbox was never great and the only reason it became temporarily relevant was because sony shot itself in the foot with the PS3. Despite being a huge Halo fan I never really managed to convince myself to buy an xbox console ever.

If the PS3 didn't get delayed and didn't have such a bad launch and first 2 years, the Xbox brand would've faded away long ago.

>>712493905
Xbox was unique in that it supported Direct X, the original console served a niche that PS2 could not. The Xbox 360 similarly did some really neat shit that no other console had done before, but they fucked it all up with the NXE update. Playstations big claim to fame was mostly being cheap to release games on, which Sony kinda ruined with the PS3

>>712493463
i can't even call it an elephant in the room or an unspoken giant or anything that valve, steam, and the steam deck already exist, because anybody with a shred of cognition from at least five years ago already knows all three of those things exist and microsoft is insanely jealous that they didn't have even a slight place in any of those things

>Xbox drops out of the console market
>But they manage to infiltrate and completely take over the handheld console market
A win?

>>712495653
>completely take over
Bro Switch already mogged them.

>>712455450 (OP)
Honestly, what do they even need a console for. We all thought they were buying all these companies to strengthen their position with exclusives. But they just wanted to go into the software business and live off gamepass.

>>712455450 (OP)
>joins console deying they were wrong about focusing on hardware over software
>Peter Moore leaves
>Begins to fail
>Keeps at it with Xbone
>Keeps failing
>Xbox Series
>Doubles down thinking a console sells under functionalities over games
>Record low sales
>Xbox: "You know what... I'm focusing on software now"
>After going on a buyout spending millions on acquisitions missing the point thinking they would sell stuff on brands over talent
It took +20 years for Xbox to understand something this simple... maybe in another 20 they realize they need talent to make the software to suceed... maybe.

>>712455924
This is so funny to watch

>>712495653
You mean a market Nintendo and Valve already owns?

>>712497183
I would once again like to mention that no one is currently making "handhelds" they are making portable consoles. You can't put a switch 2 or a steamdeck in your fucking pocket, and they're just running console games but at a lower resolution.

I miss when real handhelds were still a thing.

>>712493483
idgaf if its a win for microsoft or not.. retard i just want to play games.. thats it

>>712456115
>Microsoft will abandon the console market and turn Xbox into a PC gayming
Xbox was a glorified PC from its inception; this is nothing new and mass audience won't notice a change missing the selling hook.

>>712458747
If you think that you missed the writting on the wall back in the Xbone reveal; all comes from them.

>>712474637
He's right; one of the reasons of the Xbox failure comes from the lack of identity.

>>712497336
Don't worry, I believe they'll comeback. Everyone but Nintendo will fail and mobile already capped its limit; the consumer will see the importance and value of dedicated devices just like CDs in music.

Can't wait for the Lenovo Legion Xbox Go X.

>>712498316
Isn't Lenovo struggling with not going under?

>>712455450 (OP)
Sega having their ultimate vengeance.

>>712455450 (OP)
Cloud service Xbox gamepass, im from the future yo, fight the fight against implanted brain connections

>>712498287
Yup, Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2 are the future, Nintendo and Valve won. There is no longer a need for a PlayStation or an Xbox. The 7th gen hell is finally over.

>>712498969
>There is no longer a need for a PlayStation or an Xbox. The 7th gen hell is finally over.
>Platforms without exclusives will die
And everything is right in the world... sort of

>>712497336
why would a POWERRRRRR brand suddenly start chasing the type of now-niche shit occupied by random arduino projects and the playdate? unfortunately handhelds as we knew them are pretty well obsolete, the first switch does represent not only a pretty damn big graphical leap over the 3DS but a pretty similar leap to the 3DS itself over the DS, we can trace an ancestral line from the game boy to switch as "portable NES," "portable SNES," "portable N64", "portable gamecube", "portable wii/wii u"

If this does well the other companies are going to waste millions copying

>>712499564
ms is copying it thinking it would do well, and they copied the switch and asus. Let that sink in. Big if.

>>712499564
Microsoft are the ones copying to begin with.

>>712499564
anon
anon.
anon.
i am putting my hands on your shoulders. respectfully.
anon.
this IS a copy.
it's a copy of the steam deck.
and it isn't even microsoft's idea.
it's a licensed asus product.

>>712486414
>Nintendo and Valve already owns

Don't kid yourself. It's just Nintendo, dude.

>>712455781
M$ tried to do the same approach as windows i.e. dogshit half baked software, but unlike PC where the other OS options are either dead (troonix) or garbage (osx), the console market has very strong and popular competitors

>>712495653
>fail miserably at beating SONY, the king of console gaming
>come back for round 2 trying to beat nintendo, the king of handhelds

>>712455450 (OP)
The Ally X is cool but there needs to be a generational leap in APUs if you want to play AAA games at anything besides lowest settings for a smooth experience

>>712501085
>SONY, the king of console gaming

>>712500827
Nintendo can't do high-end gaming. Their consoles sell on their first-party games, third-parties need a home and that home is Steam.

I can't wait to see gamepass on Playstation, it'll be like Sonic appearing on a Nintendo console

>>712501853
>high-end gaming
Not only a meme but also a dead end.

>>712501853
High-end gaming like Concord?

>>712502005
>>712502150
You're ignoring the major problem here about Nintendo platforms, it's third parties vs first parties and first parties always win on Nintendo consoles.

>>712460826
>we're failing so lets just do another obviously retarded move that will assuredly fail
I'm convinced phil is just inventing retarded ideas to give to microsoft delay the inevitable & preserve his job for as long as possible which does seem to be working. Not really surprising given the pajeet ceo is clearly a moron, he simultaneously undermines the xbox brand while blowing money keeping it on life support.

>>712502382
That's not a problem but a positive; if they can't or deny to compete and drop good games they can go to hell, which is what they have been receiving for going to graphicwhore "consoles" and not droping good games.

Mind you, Nintendo games aren't bulletproof and if you fail measuring up againts those you deserve the L. So let's keep first game on Nintendo consoles because literal retards buy Mortal Kombat on Nintendo after the 7th generation, ports like those deserve nothing but the middle finger.

this thread is filled with snoys & armchair business men KEK... Microsoft just keeps winning. now be sure to buy concord 2.0 & 3.0

>>712503770
I actually loved Xbox until the NXE ruined the Xbox 360. They just sorta gave up on exclusives at that point and stopped putting out killer apps to justify the consoles.

>>712502737
That's why the Steam Deck exists, they make their games for that and eventually the Steam Deck 2 but be forewarned, it's better to not go for PS6-level stuff and use UDNA at its fullest. RDNA 3.5+ is a good stop gap. Those who chooses to go beyond the Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2 in power will fall. This is why the future is indies and AAs because AAA can't help themselves.

>>712503770
What are they winning?

>>712504941
This right here and I stopped caring about Sony when Uncharted and The Last of Us became their face. I knew it was over for both and neither ever recovered. Nintendo and Valve succeeds because they remain what they always were.

>>712502563
The bigger question is what kompromat does Phil have on the MS board that he's still got a job at this point? You'd think he has 4k vids of Nadella on Epstein's island with how much he's fucked up and hasn't gotten sacked.

>>712455450 (OP)
> steam machines xbox branded
Wtf

>>712506670
lmao never considered that. I don't know what's more plausible, microsoft is just that retarded or phil has some real nasty blackmail material on the execs. Both seem equally likely at this point.

>>712461839
>He is not fat anymore
He won

>>712508054
I know the rules change at a company when you're above a certain level, but I can't think of anyone else in gaming who has been able to fuck up for more than a decade to the level Phil has and have no changes in his job title. Even that idiot Hulst got demoted after how bad Concord did.

>>712506670
His goals aligned with the pajeet, kill the Xbox, he's been doing it since he took over in 2014. I hate him more because he couldn't even kill the Xbox like Sega killed their consoles, it was a slow painful death and unlike the Dreamcast, where Sega actually tried, Microsoft didn't even try to save the Xbox with the Xbox Series consoles. I now hate the Series S because there is nothing to show of it, its successor got canned so what was even the point now?

>>712455450 (OP)
But Jez Corden, Xbox Battlegrounds, Klobrille and every other Xbox cuck on Twitter told me that Xbox runs the industry now. What happened?

>>712508786
Mattrick killed Xbox. Phil has been trying to move people to Game Pass, but nothing they do is working. MS' original goal was to become the only (or at least primary) multimedia device in the family living room (which is why the XB1 is called the 'Xbox One' - MS legitimately thought it would be the only device you'd have, so it would be Input #1 to your TV), but completely botched every aspect of it for various reasons.

And because they're so thoroughly bureaucratic, jeeted, and inefficient, their internal dev teams have only ever delivered trash.

>>712508937
Xbox doesn't run shit. The 'Everything is an Xbox!' marketing program was a tacit admission they lost the console war.

>>712491034
I Wonder if it will be digital only?

>>712509017
This, it's over, they even admitted that they lost the console war back during the 8th generation (the most important generation to them) so what we're seeing is a delayed reaction to that. Nadella didn't even want the Xbox Series X|S to exist so there is that.

>>712509147
It will

>>712455450 (OP)
gaming in windows take away fps

>>712460826
I don't think Microsoft knows how to make an OS just for gaming...even if that's the plan.

They can't help themselves. It will still have a service for faxing and recall.

>>712463902
> Xbox makes money off of Game Pass and nothing else
They aren’t making a profit tho

>>712483105
>their smiles and optimism: gone

>>712509514
lmfao

>>712455781
Technically Xbox isn't M$'s first attempt at a console. They had a box called the MSX Home Computer designed for the Far East in 1983, difference is they weren't manufacturing the hardware themselves but they did create a hardware standard that other manufacturers would use to make the system.

Funnily enough that console also only lasted 4 gens before getting discontinued.

This is Bomberman from 1983

>>712509514

It's like when Pontiac revealed the Aztek.

>>712455450 (OP)
What fucking software? They release like 1 game every 5 years.

>>712506297
>This right here and I stopped caring about Sony when Uncharted and The Last of Us became their face. I knew it was over for both and neither ever recovered.
Based, I actually did the same.
Xbox 360 for the first year or so of the gen is the last time Xbox has been good and I think the PSP is basically the last good system Sony has ever made.
I was initially somewhat interested in Last of Us, but completely lost faith in Sony after not only seeing how much they lied about the game before release, but how it was praised as the best game ever made because it was just like watching a movie. Playstation effectively stopped having value after the PSP died and Sony gave up entirely on their quirky AA games that gave the platform so much character. I still can't believe they came out a few years ago and said "the problem is we make too many games, we need to make less games but with much bigger budgets!"
Playstation and Xbox have been zombie brands for like 3 gens in a row now, which is why the only real hype reveals they ever seem to have are remakes for 4+ gens ago.