Thread 712464473

>Want to dress as a knight like on the cover while wielding a heavy weapon.
>You are slow as shit and need to waste all your levelups into whatever the equip weight stat is, but you will still be very slow even if you do.
>In exchange you get like 30% damage resist and the ability to not stagger when hit.
>Best tactic is to just wear a dress or run around naked.
Why make it like this?
Where is the power fantasy of being a cool knight?

>>712464473 (OP)
the truth is they suck ass at game design. all those weapons, all the spells and classes. totally pointless.

Knight armor doesn't have ridiculous requirements.
Endurance also gives you stamina, it is a good stat anyway.

>>712464781
If you want to wield a heavy weapon, Knight armor makes you slow, even at 40 endurance.

>there will never be another slow and methodical souls game by fromsoft because normalniggers demand SPEED
grim

>>712464473 (OP)
Wearing heavy armor, investing in poise, and then facetanking the bosses without care is the brokenest and braindeadest strat in the game doe
You don't need to be light unless you're in ng+ or speedrunning the game

>I want to be a knight, but I also want a giant, stupid weapon!
Have you tried not being a fag?

>>712465135
Smol weapons are the worst thing ever created and make me very sad and depressed.
The weapon must at least be as heavy as I am, and that's the absolute minimum.

>>712465274
>Play as naked man.
>I am now too horny irl to concentrate on the gameplay and keep dieing because of this.
Being naked is very strategically disadvantagous.

>>712464947
Lol AI limit was as fast as bloodborne, didn't even have stamina, and people said the game was too slow.

>>712464875
40 endurance + havel's ring + ring of favor and protection gets you the full knight set with 11 weight to spare for weapons as big as zweihander or large club before you even start midrolling, and midrolling is perfectly acceptable for DS1 PVE (PVP too but you need to know what you're doing)

>>712464875
you can medium roll in the elite knight set double handing zwei between 20-30 end if you grab havels ring. stop being a shitter.

>>712464473 (OP)
>best tactic
Dark Souls was never about min maxing. 95% of people I encountered when playing this game didn't do this shit. The only common item seen was the grass shield. Elden Ring however, was the complete opposite and filled to the brim with tryhard builds that people looked up online.

Also poise is the most broken stat in the game so you're also wrong. Only speed runners did naked runs, which isn't a valid strategy for first time players.

>>712466927
"just be naked and roll everything" is the dumbest fucking meme spewed by people who don't actually play these games
armor is important in every game since ds1, even in 3 if you aren't at least wearing something in each slot you take big-ass defense penalties
it's even useful in bloodborne, bloodborne just makes the mistake of giving you one of the best armor sets right at the beginning so people don't think it matters

>>712464473 (OP)
Armor in Souls games was useless up until Dark Souls 3

>>712464473 (OP)
Just midroll faggot. Its fine. Ive done hundreds of glass cannon havel rofap fastroll greatclub runs and recently did a run thats total inverse of that, and its easier. just wear the heaviest thing you can find, ignore str and dex beyond minimum reqs, and pump vit/end. not even a skill issue, you just have an autism issue.

>>712468164
It's not even useless. I would be fine with that. But it is actaully detrimental. It actively makes you worse at combat which is the opposite of how it works irl.

>>712467542
Yeah, I love how easily secondaries out themselves.

>>712469257
I am 50/50 between the top and bottom one depending on how I feel like currently.

>>712469257
"viral" sounds so antique now

>>712464473 (OP)
>>712469178
you can just fat roll

>>712464473 (OP)
>i want to play as a heavy knight with none of the negatives
don't feel too bad, your mindset won and influenced the devs past this game anyway.

>>712470457
>Knight pros
Looks cool
Doesn't get staggered out of his attack when hit (still takes full damage)
>Knight cons
Slow as shit
Easy to hit

>>712464473 (OP)
I literally did this exact armor and build my first time through without issue. It tells you what you need to have. Fast rolling and still being able to shield tank gigantic weapon swings is fucking awesome

>>712464473 (OP)
>>In exchange you get like 30% damage resist
You don't get percentage based absorbtion in Dark Souls.
Souls games haven't had percentage based damage reduction until Bloodborne, which is why you can actually get some scaling on tanking hits

What’s the best dark souls game to replay? That you never get bored of. Or just souls game in general?
I’ve probably replayed dark souls 3 the most
I’ve beat all except sekiro, demon souls and nloodborne. I’m working on demon souls and Bloodborne now. Demon souls is a bit boring imo but bloodborne is great.

>>712464473 (OP)
>OP discovers the concept of stats in a videogame

>>712464473 (OP)
Why do you need to roll? Just block dumbass its wayy better

>>712472453
Dark Souls 2 is the only one with proper replayability, I'd say.

Use the master key and perfect parry havel at the start of the game for his ring. You're a skilled enough knight to accomplish this, right?

>>712464473 (OP)
Best tactic is wear heavy armor unga bunga m1 enemies though

>>712472453
i replay 2 the most followed by 1, and almost never 3. reasoning being 2 is the most non-linear with seemingly the most build variety while 3 is way too linear for my taste

It should also be stressed that fast roll is not even close to a requirement for Dark Souls. This isn't a bloodbornevania. Fast roll is an option, like blocking, parrying, or just moving out of the way manually.

>>712469257
lol just git gud

>>712472453
I've not gotten bored of any Souls game yet. Even the shortest one, Demons Souls.
I have the most hours in Dark Souls 2, but that is mainly because Dark Souls 2 is the longest one.

>>712464947
>methodical
it wasn't

>>712472453
3, as controversial as the linearity is it leaves very little padding and a very streamlined and curated experience.
DaS2 sucks to replay. It's like 3 hours too long w/ dlc and I'm always sick of it by the time I'm finished.

>>712467542
I beat ds1,2,3 naked roll only, then tried putting on armor and the difference was so negligible it didn't matter

>>712464473 (OP)
I miss souls before rollslop. In DeS and DaS, heavy armor had consequences.

>>712473651
Then don't play the DLC?

You know this game had a semblance of groundedness before cheese fags and boss rushers bastardised it

Knight armour, is... shockingly.... WEIGHTY

>>712473929
Why are you leaving out 2 it was exactly the same

>>712473991
Couldn't get into it due to the different engine.

>>712473929
Dark Souls is the only game in the series with a sensible poise system. So it is the only one where compromising for heavy armor makes sense.
Hard disagree on Demons Souls. Don't wear heavy armor until you have nothing else to put level up points in.

>>712474104
Sounds like you should give it another try if you miss pre-rollslop souls

>endurance
>waste of levelups
this is how retards were tricked into thinking shields were shit

>>712474117
>Dark Souls is the only game in the series with a sensible poise system
>If you fill the arbitrary threshold requirement you get to tank otherwise you can't use any slow weapon
No it was terrible

>>712474117
I didn't say heavy armor was good or even viable in DeS, just that it had consequences.
>>712474208
Yeah, maybe. Can't be as bad as I remember.

>>712473970
>Don't play the good part of DaS2

>>712474737
>just that it had consequences.
What consequences did it have?

>>712473929
>>712474117
DaS 1 armor is way too retarded, poise shouldn't just let you stand around like a retard and soak hits like nothing. DaS3 had the right idea, poise only works during attacks, it just needed to expand and buff the system.

>>712474117
Poise is not the only reason to use heavy armour or to invest in the related stats.

>>712475005
>increased equip burden
>slower movespeed
>slower stamina regen

>>712475195
Most of the fashionable plate armors are on the lower end of encumbrance.

>>712475641
>>increased equip burden
>>slower movespeed
So like other games?
>>slower stamina regen
Completely unnecessary now that actions slow stamina instead, making tank builds lose stamina regens

oh shit ds1 bread
did a dragon bone fist run yesterday and i want the time back