Thread 712472771

It's time to upgrade to Windows 11 anon.

why

>>712472834
So it can eat up more of your RAM

>>712472771 (OP)
It'll never cease to amaze me how they manage to make their aesthetic even more soullessly corporate

>>712473115
Get MacOS if you want something pretty and frilly then you tranny. I want my OS to be no-bullshit and just do its job. Plus you can just reinstall Aero if you want it to look good again.

I have windows 11 on my work Thinkpad, but I won't use it for my PC. I hate the task bar, I hate the programs list screen and it doesn't even look good

>>712472771 (OP)
BUT I DONT WANNA

>>712472771 (OP)
It's time to drink your poo water and shut the fuck up, Bill.

>>712472771 (OP)
Microsoft wants me to upgrade my shitty 2017-ish laptop all the time even though that thing already shits itself with 10, but my 2020-ish PC isn't allowed to upgrade for some reason
Too bad

>>712472771 (OP)
HOLY shit it's almost october
I still haven't got a better job
I'm never going to upgrade bros
i'm going to get bitcoin miners installed on my computer

>>712473083
Unused RAM is wasted RAM.

>>712472771 (OP)

Windows 11 offers no improvements to the user over Windows 10. I will not "upgrade" things just because a floor-shitting Indian at Microsoft tells me to.

>>712472771 (OP)
Never!

>>712472771 (OP)
Sorry, I took the LTSCpill.

>>712472771 (OP)
Why don't they just make one version that just works?

>>712473307
>I want my OS to be no-bullshit and just do its job.
Me too, which is why I don't use 11.

>>712472771 (OP)
Using windows is a downgrade.

>>712473307
> I want my OS to be no-bullshit and just do its job.
The irony of a windows user saying this lol. The total lack of self awareness.

>>712474095
Windows 10 was supposed to be that but they needed to make 11 to add more spyware.

>>712474178
Too bad linux has no games

>>712473307
>I want my OS to be no-bullshit and just do its job.
>uses Windows

>>712474168
>>712474280
Windows does everything out of the box that you have to spend hours fucking with Linux to get it to do. You guys are retards.

10 is objectively worse than 7. I won't be using 11. Whatever comes after it will likely be even worse, so one has to stop using it at some point.
Is it really that hard to make a new system better or at least on par with the old one, and not worse? Even for a colossal global-scale IT corporation?

>>712472771 (OP)
>upgrade
It's a sidegrade at best. They could've sold it as a UI skin because everything else underneath is mostly the same.

>>712472771 (OP)
Upgrade to Linux instead

>>712472771 (OP)
I have every piece purchased, it's just in the mail.
Image is of a close to full build I modelled mine after. I'm so happy I have money. My 980ti served me long enough.

No thanks.

>>712473115
It looks better than Winblows 10 though.

>>712473793
Windows 11 offers a wide assortment of in-UI ads that are beneficial for the user to view.

>>712472771 (OP)
>(((upgrade)))

>>712472771 (OP)
I'm only doing it for gamepass and minecraft bedrock edition, I mostly use steam and java, but I can basically get gamepass for free, and bedrock unironically has some unique mods/experiences that I like to try out here and there, I wish modding/content was universalized don't get me wrong, and I still do prefer Java.

>>712472771 (OP)
shan't

>>712472771 (OP)
I'm upgrading to Linux.
Windows 11 is liquid ass.

The perfect example of how Windows 11 works is that in W11 you have to click twice to adjust volume, in W10 you only need to click one time. It's a small but extremely annoying change with no possible benefit in any use case. Everything in W11 is like that, just doing things slightly worse for no reason.

>>712473307
Here's your no-bullshit just do its job OS bro

>>712473674
>unused room is wasted room goy, invite those muslim illegals into your house where you live with your sister, DO IT GOY

>>712472771 (OP)
I moved to Linux Mint a month ago on the basis that if it did suck whatever I had to rebuild to 11 anyway. I don't think I am going to 11 any time soon.

I upgraded years ago. It works better than 10 in almost every way besides some annoyance with the taskbar and duel monitors. That's 1 step back but it'a been more stable than 10 for me and better at stuff like VR and remembering multiple window locations. I only waited a year for 11 to get some fixes and tried it out. It's pretty okay once you disable a few things and customize it, like any other OS really.

I've turned into a consolefag after playing on PC for most of my life. Diagnosing obscure problems on Windows is just some of the most frustrating shit to do ever. I might eventually get a fully-fledged Linux pc, but for now the Steam Deck and ps5 covers all the games I'm interested in.

>>712480423
Kek, reminds me of when our Great Leader Justin Trudeau said the housing crisis in Canada was caused by boomers who lived in houses too big and didn't want to move out of them.

He said that. Unironically.

*heavy voice* NO!

>>712473674
>Unused RAM
it's not unused RAM it's ram to be used by chrome and firefox not wangblows trying to keep their bloated photos/calculator/clock/ random garbanzo apps open on standby 24/7

>>712472771 (OP)
why would you downgrade? each version of windows is more resource-hungry than the last. not to mention forced updates raping your computer, ads and telemetry raping your privacy, and shady stuff in the background raping your battery

>>712473674
unavailable RAM is wasted RAM
the more ram your OS uses, the fewer vidya you can run
>>712480423
OY veyyyyyyy anti-semite!
stop wasting the free room in your house!

>>712472771 (OP)
I will sooner don the tranny socks and install Linux.

>>712475114
Parts list?

>>712482198
It really bothers me that programs I have literally never opened are constantly running in the background for years.
It's so passive aggressive of Microsoft to do it.

>>712474352
I use a translation layer to play pirated games. after switching to Linux, it's like pirating^2.
>>712472771 (OP)
I'm not downgrading from Xubuntu minimal install

>>712473115
It's not souless or corporate. The whole thing is quite beautiful and they even made a huge deal about the design language. The problem is the OS is bloated and loaded down with bullshit like copilot. It also has some strange decisions like the right click menu that opens up the real right click menu

nah I'm good,

I just jizzed 2000 dollars on a win11 gaming laptop

I have windows 11 on this latest prebuilt I bought last month and it's fucking garbage. Took me 3 hours of fucking with settings to make everything stop being so unforgivably ugly and retarded and it's still full of bloat and worthless programs I have to clear out, not to mention the way folders are done are so unforgivably retarded and they STILL haven't fixed the issue with half the sort options making folders appear at the bottom and the other with them at the top.

>>712487150
>GayDE Plasma
cringe

I upgraded to Win11 and I literally didn't notice anything different lmao

Y'all a bunch of schizo faggots autists, AS EXPECTED

>>712480423
>>712482198
>>712483301
Can't say I'm worried. Then again I do use basically all my RAM daily.

Things I hate about Windows 11
>right click menu
>poor performance
>ads in MS apps
>no built in office suite (like with Mac)
>forced login
>forced TPM
>no access to group policy editor in the consumer versions
>bullshit extra apps like unitycubeclicker3
>basically a glass house for Microsoft's eyes they don't even pretend to not be surveilling you constantly
>nice UI design language but implemented clumsily like a bunch of amateurs

>>712487362
what's wrong with KDE brother sorry i like the Windows UI better then Mac's UI

My work fucked up the Win 11 upgrade so hard they're just sending out new laptops rather than upgrading the old ones now.
Amazing.

>>712487421
>>right click menu
Fair
>>poor performance
Debatable
>>ads in MS apps
Can be solved
>>no built in office suite (like with Mac)
Pointless
>>forced login
Literally just use your PIN
>>forced TPM
Is fine, your motherboard has to be like 1997 to not have TPM
>>no access to group policy editor in the consumer versions
If you're using consumer windows, I feel bad for you.
>>bullshit extra apps like unitycubeclicker3
Not on my machine
>>basically a glass house for Microsoft's eyes they don't even pretend to not be surveilling you constantly
You can solve your telemetry issues with a sinkhole
>>nice UI design language but implemented clumsily like a bunch of amateurs
pointless.

I'm not saying all your gripes are not issues, they are, but most of them are a nothingburger and the rest can be solved with ease. Or you could just stay on an old OS, and pray you don't get clapped by a CVE because "you're sensible."

>>712487718
Well they're a nothingburger to you because you're not me but to me these are things I care about and I have to use my own computer every day and live with myself so thanks for the dismissal I guess

>>712487718
>Misses the point about TPM
It's an identifier so you're currently not anonymous.

>>712484991
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> LIAN LI Edge 1300 PSU

>>712487953
Oh no! They're gonna see me posting peach and daisy webms on 4chins!

I'd rather smoke some rocks than 'upgrading' to Win11.

>>712487718
forced TPM is not fine
>>712487953
it's hardware-level DRM, a persistent identifier that can't be changed through software is just one part of the package

>>712487718
If I have to constantly tinker with windows like it's linux to use it now, why shouldn't I just switch to linux? I don't play normalcattle games that want rootkit anticheat, so I don't lose anything.

>>712472771 (OP)
Thank fuck I don't need to worry about that shit.

>>712472771 (OP)
hardware too old to upgrade
fuck off with your bloatware

>>712488747
god this reeks of early 2000's

>>712488013
Thanks anon!

>>712490071
No prob! Take care.

>>712489251
That's why it's so good

>>712487718
>>>forced TPM
>Is fine
kill yourself. play integrity is jewgle's version and it's the biggest cancer to have ever hit mobile phones since apps refuse to run unelss jewgle blesses your device and OS+drivers. imagine if the same fate befell PC

>>712472771 (OP)
>upgrade

Remote attestation is horrifying

>>712472771 (OP)
i still got support until 2032 so no thanks

>>712472771 (OP)
What will I benefit?

>>712488137
>it's hardware-level DRM, a persistent identifier that can't be changed
you're explaining it wrong.
>the tpm performs crypto operations and holds unique keys that are signed by some corpo (e.g. microshaft, jewtel). these keys can be revoked anytime (hardware ban, like when your cfw switch gets banned by nintendo)
>when running a program your computer is directed to perform checks with the corpo that runs the (((attestation service))) to make sure you're running only whitelisted everything (bootloader, OS, drivers, signed uncracked program, etc.) to ensure you're can't pirat- I mean can't get hacked by evil russians!
>since the TPM performs crypto functions it also implements shit like memory curtaining (i.e. programs make their memory inaccessible, using keys that are outside your control) and (((sealed storage))), i.e. programs store files encrypted with keys that you can't access, ensuring vendor lock-i- I mean that your files are safe from russian hackers!
>the cherry on top of the shitheap is that programs can implement this crap called (((chip to cloud security))) i.e. programs run on a (((secure enclave))) isolated from all other software and downloads encryption keys off a vendor's server, ensuring absolutely no pirac- I mean nefarious russian hacking can take place at all
tl;dr TPMs are hardware DRM. if it was actually about security they'd let the local admin spoof attestation checks and also set his own keys instead of relying on the signatures of megacorporations

>>712474352
Name one game I like that can't be played on Linux.

>>712491807
>these keys can be revoked anytime (hardware ban, like when your cfw switch gets banned by nintendo)
that's expecting a lot from microsoft, who still hosts a 1 click permanent activation method on their own website, github

>>712491986
see https://areweanticheatyet.com/

>>712480423
european hours

>>712491986
I tried running Warhammer: Blood Omen yesterday when some anon asked about it. I couldn't get it to work with Steam Proton, Wine, or Lutris.
I'll try Bottles today and let you know the results.

>>712491986
lubuntu kings rise up

>>712492481
>ubuntu
>in 2025
lmao
ubuntushit is just as bad as microshit.

Tick tock baby ducks! Time to upgrade now. Windows 11 fixed everything!
Sound familiar to anyone? Just swallow that load faggots! You already sucked the Windows 10 dick so it is the next logical step.

>>712492083
>that's expecting a lot from microsoft, who still hosts a 1 click permanent activation method on their own website, github
they don't have to ban anything. I don't think they'd dare at this point. however if you need an example of (((remote attestation's))) tyranny, check out (((play integrity))). people who install custom roms, regardless of root status, are barred from accessing a wide range of apps from banking and virtual wallets and insurance to jewflix and other paid shit. of course proper firewalls, backups, and adblock require root so it obviously works in jewgle's favor

>>712472771 (OP)
This is stupid. They're just forcing a lot of people to use Linux.

>>712492083
>anti-cheat
cuck
and a retard because there are plenty of ways to cheat no matter how many rootkits you stack on your computer (DMA cards, lagswitches, autofire and other mods, automated peripherals, recording the screen and having a robot input commands)

>>712473674
I need that RAM for my videogames, not for windows. Fucking SARs.

>>712493984
>game doesn't run
how do you cheat then retard

>>712493894
it's actually genius
>they poison linux with waves of stinking tech-illiterate normalfaggots who can't even open the start menu and cause all the foss devs to burn out
>average joe and corporations will always need to keep a copy of windows around because all the software in the world requires windows (photoshop, office suite, cad tools, inventory management systems, technical domain-specific tools, etc.)
it's a brilliant move on the part of microsoft

>>712492083
>Game used to have no anti-cheat rootkits and also a lot less cheating
>Now we get more anti-cheats and more cheaters

>>712492256
No Idea how the fuck to use bottles. It sandboxes the executable without taking the rest of the install files with it.

>>712493747
I'm not surprised about Play integrity at all. Very few people root or install custom ROMs. The recent Pixel updates even prevent downgrading. If anything, I'm surprised PCs and Android phones don't have more shit like iOS like IPSW signing.

>>712494264
matchmaking ruined everything
back in the day you had (small distributed) communities that would weed out retards and scriptkiddies. nowadays corpos outsource moderation to bots that will steal your money if you accrue enough reports regardless of circumstances or if you say words like run away in japanese.

>>712492256
>>712494432
Using Bottles is a pain in the ass because of Flatpak. I've gotten it to run games located outside of the Flatpak sandbox by doing a "flatpak override com.usebottles.bottles --filesystem=..." command, but I generally find it easier just to install a game into Bottles' prefix. If I'm running a GOG installer, I'll even copy the installer executable into the prefix's C:\Users\whatever before running it, just to be sure Bottles can see it without adding any filesystem override bullshit.

>>712494904
Flatseal and give Bottles permissions should be all you need to fix that. Least works on my machine.

>>712472771 (OP)
I was surprised but 11 feels more polished than win10 from UI and performance perspective. It's like win7 but with spying ai inside

>>712494474
>Very few people root or install custom ROMs
because the android was gutted and became a hollow shell
>anyone making a custom rom has to write and maintain their own dialer, SMS app, gallery, keyboard, calendar, music player, video player, photo editor, camera, etc.
>a ton of functionality relies on jewgle play services. push notifications, location, maps, etc. so you're left with a broken OS without them
anyway it's preposterous that jewgle is turning android into something more locked down than ios. and it's even more alarming that they want to do the same to pc

>>712495253
>give away android for free
>gets mad when amazon and chinese companies use it and make bastardized versions

>>712483301
>doesn't have wall to wall cat furniture
Then again, you are brown and torture baby monkeys.

How long until Microsoft again issues a statement saying “You are no longer allowed to use this software. We are developing viruses for it and the government will let us again.” Again?

I'll pay the good goy 30 bucks and just upgrade next year. I don't have the money/interest in building a PC In a scramble blitz. I'd rather do it with my leisure next year. It's their own damn fault for making windows 11 require some new fangled shit. I got my Mobo in 2018 and while that's old at nearly 7 years ago, I don't recall that being an issue in past windows updates.

>>712474292
And will need 12 to do AI shit. At this point maybe the Chinese will come up with something and in exchange for not being able to type
>Taiwan is Independent
You'll get something that works. Imma be frank if my choice if Ranjit or Chang I'll just jump off a bridge but odds are Chang will work better.

>>712493747
I can already know I'm going to disable that stupid Smart-app control because I have to use various ad-hoc applications for modding games

>>712472771 (OP)
I like Windows 11 overall but the one unbelievably shitty change is that right clicking on an application with multiple windows puts the context menu in the middle of them (instead of the ONE window you right click on). It's a disgustingly bad downgrade.

>>712494904
>>712495086
Sounds like a giant pain. I'll pass.

>>712497907
Okay.

>>712472771 (OP)
kill all poojeets

>>712472771 (OP)
I upgrade to Linux Mint.
And there's nothing you can do about it

>>712472771 (OP)
I don't think that I will be doing that.

>>712487412
>R
my nigga

>>712487412
are these stocks?

I use win11 at work and it sucks ass. Constant explorer crashes and shitty UI. Can't find shit on right click menu.

still not using linux lmao

>>712472771 (OP)
I'd like to know why Chrome runs like shit on Windows 11 compared to 10. Large 4chan threads in particular are basically unusable.

>>712503002
try using a less shit browser?

i use linux

>>712503095
There aren't any. They all have gotchas.

>>712472771 (OP)
win 11 killed off support for WMR so no. I'm not turning my perfectly working VR set into a brick so they can force me to buy a goymeta vr set.

>>712472771 (OP)
>upgrades into Win7
What now OP?

>>712472771 (OP)
I tried. Microsoft won't let me.

>>712477051
can't run handball 17 simple as.

>>712503002
>Why does a service offered by one of Microsoft's competitors run like shit on a Microsoft system

Gee anon, I don't know...

>>712505458
Same thing happens in Edge and Brave.

Microsoft doesn't want you to know this but they will still support windows 10 after the support ends.

>>712505754
Why do faggots on 4chan always have to lie to avoid admitting they're stupid?

Linux is thinking man's OS.
Windows is for monke.

>>712472771 (OP)
10 sucks, I hate it, but I'm gonna use it anyway.
>why?
cause I grug brain

>>712472771 (OP)
No, I don't think I will.

>>712482198
I fucking wish. My work PC has win 11 and using the start menu to quickly type like calc and hit enter never works shit is unresponsive as fuck then calc takes 2 seconds to load instead of instant on a normal os

no

>>712472771 (OP)
Shut up poojeet, kill yourself
i am not upgrading

>Number of linux users goes up as amount of cheating indians in multi-player games skyrockets
Really makes one wonder...

>>712487000
>right click menu that opens up the real right click menu
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea. Have to click twice for literally over half of the things I right click for.

I'm on arch based StayvunOS

>>712472771 (OP)
Install CachyOS

>>712472771 (OP)
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/zero-click-ai-data-leak-flaw-uncovered-in-microsoft-365-copilot/
>even more security vulnerabilities with meme ai shit

>>712472771 (OP)
Ill upgrade to linux so I don't have to look at the retarded upgrade to the next windows screen ever again

So what OS can I use? I don't want to use Linux since trannies have taken it over and I don't want to stick with Windows because of their obvious bullshit.

>>712512561
make your own

You WILL upgrade to Windows 11.
You WILL install the automatic untested updates.

>>712512602
I'm too tarded to do that.

>>712512561
>I don't want to use Linux since trannies have taken it over
qrd?

>>712512715
nta but I remember seeing a big meltdown from linux users because a big youtuber (I don't remember if it was pewdiepie or xQc) started using linux and tried to cancel him because they think he's a nazi

>>712472771 (OP)
I upgraded to Bazzite a few days ago but thanks for asking.

>>712512825
so the linux project is still in the clear?

>>712512825
who gives a shit, linux isn't as annoying to deal with as it used to be
all that matters is things aren't annoying and swapping is now more appealing than dealing with microsofts current constant annoyances

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm................. i dont think i will actually

>>712512938
what about drivers and games?
can I still play my gacha games on linux?

>>712472771 (OP)
>It's time to upgrade to Windows 11 anon.
no

windows is sliding down on the steam hardware survey despite the 1 billion asia steam accounts per pc in a pc cafe reports right now too

good job microsoft

>>712513672
>Sliding down
>Is down less than a full percentage point.
>Still controls 95% of the market

I don't think Microsoft is worried anon.