Thread 712484304

>remake is an enormous objective improvement over the original in every way
any other examples?

The ZSS section sucks ass

>>712484431
the worst parts of zm are still better than the best parts of m1

>>712484431
>>712484304 (OP)
i honestly don't understand why people like this more than super metroid, just because jumping is faster? so what

Considering how much of a mess the original was, it didn't have to do much. They really did a great job though with the QoL improvements and additions. I still replay it every couple of years and would never replay the original

>>712484304 (OP)
I love zero mission and prefer it over the original but there's no such thing as an "objective improvement". The original metroid's lack of a map system forces the player to draw their own map, something which leads the player to map out which is a whole mechanic on it's own. The original also has a darker feel due to it's limitations. You're not gonna catch me playing the original anytime again, but I don't think it's helpful to judge a remake as "objectively better" because that's how we get all the remake slop we get now.
Anyway I like the first 2 REmakes, twin snakes (goofy cutscences are peak), and the yakuza kiwami remakes. Again all of these games have things the originals do better, but I like these ones

>>712484516
Fuck no. It's literally the same game, tile-for-tile, with a worse artstyle. The funko-pop aesthetic is trash.

>>712485227
FRLG and HGSS were great remakes.
Shame every gen after them is doomed to get slop demakes.

>>712484304 (OP)
>remake is an enormouse downgrade made for 12 year old toddlers who cant handle the tiniest bit of adversity and need their hand held throughout the entire game with giant yellow beacons pointing them in the right direction or theyll have a melty

FTFY

>>712484304 (OP)
I agree it's better. But it's a completely different game compared to NES Metroid.

>>712485227
The real reason to play the original is for a playthrough of Pokémon Stadium. These games were meant to be played in tandem and there's no other way to have the proper experience outside of playing it on an actual N64.

>>712487574
While there are a huge amount of additions and changes, a surprisingly large amount of the map layout and item locations are lifted right out of NES Metroid.

>>712486272
I like ORAS, the option to do a bunch of optional legendary fights and a second wave of mega evolutions was great. The delta episode NPC was a bit edgy, but otherwise it was good.

>>712486272
The only downside to ORAS was the lack of a Battle Frontier. Everything else about it is fantastic, especially the music. I really enjoyed Let's Go for what it was. I have a hard time considering it a remake when it feels like a sort of an alternate scenario-immediate sequel to Yellow. BDSP was genuine shit though. I think I got to the Pastoria City and quit because the bike kept getting caught on literally fucking everything

>>712489463
I really enjoyed Delta episode. Zinnia and her theme are pretty fucking tight

>>712484431
There it is, like clockwork.
The section lasts an hour, is perfectly fine, and is completely kino.
You are low IQ.

>>712485823
Requiring map drawing is great for that feeling of exploration, but exploration is only fun when 70% of the game isn't nearly identical vertical shafts.

I can't disagree with the OP, Metroid Zero Mission is a very competent game, and I can't imagine anything that makes it worse than the NES version, except maybe for those who like more cryptic games and getting completely lost. In that case, the NES is better because it really throws you in the middle of nowhere and tells you to fuck yourself and find your own way out of that dark hole.

>>712484304 (OP)
I'd say Shadows of Valentia is better than Gaiden in almost every way, except maybe how Jedah's immunity works and the slight(but noticeable) narrative rewrites.

>>712492172
2.5D is hideous.

>>712492735
you're hideous

>>712492735
Guess it's a good thing that's not a 2.5D game then

>>712484304 (OP)
>lose bikini in favor of short
That is a downgrade.

>>712484304 (OP)
it's the only one sadly, but captcha related faggots will tried to convince you about shit like Persona 3 retarded, Dem4ke and Rollslop 1 not made by rollslopware among many other eamples

>>712484431
(You) suck

>>712492987
Is there another name for that diorama look?

>>712484431
What, did the Chozo guardian kick your ass?

>>712484304 (OP)
The GBA Final Fantasy ports which add a run button and extra post game content

Ignore the crunched GBA music, it’s part of the charm and if you’re not picky these are even better than the Pixel Remasters

>>712485024
Walljumping actually functions properly here

>>712493496
OP asked for remakes, and you gave him ports.
What is wrong with you?

>>712484304 (OP)
I know we’re talking official games but fangames can be just as good too

>Another Metroid 2 Remake
>Sonic Triple Trouble 16-bit
>Megaman X8 16-bit

>>712484304 (OP)
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Resident Evil
Saga Frontier

>>712493876
No.

>>712493872
if we are counting fan work FF6 T-Edition would count

>>712484304 (OP)
I'd include Star Ocean 2 to that

>>712484304 (OP)
Kirby Super Star Ultra has it all!

It even gave us Galacta Knight and his badass theme, also True Arena theme is a banger too

https://youtu.be/E6QIFtW7N14

>Captcha: JY0T0

Even the Catpcha is trying to say HeartGold and SoulSilver!

>>712484304 (OP)
This but Millennials will let their nostalgia say otherwise.

October cannot come soon enough I loved the DQ3 remake

>>712494069
AM2R sucks

>>712489227
THIS, so much this, and since there's no breeding slop you can easily clear the game with your faves, take them nicely to lvl 100 with the fast fwd function and they play gym leader battle with your team, feels like a big ass post-game that RBY clearly lack.

>>712494265
The only big problem I have is that these games have cool aesthetic yet they use the most standard as fuck font, the menu not being sprite-based also clashes with the overall look, they should include the option to have pixel text and pixel UI and I'm sold.

>>712494584
Also no.

Honestly, this one is cheating. It's less of a remake and more just a completely new game. Shares none of the same bosses except Dracula who is completely different.

But the original sucked and ReBirth is damn good.

>>712491685
>and hour
That's like 1/3 of ZM

>>712484431
This, everyone hated it but sakamoto didn't learn shit, instead he made the equivalent the main focus of Dreas throughout the game with EMMI

>>712485227
>>712494239
36yo millennial here

I didn't play HGSS but I did play Fire Red. I honestly still prefer the original game but then again I stopped being a Pokemon fan after the 3rd gen which for my age group happened to a ton of other kids/teens back in the day. I also am willing to accept a lot of this may just simply be due to nostalgia. Even before the release of R/S/E you had most teens seemingly preferring Yugioh. At least that is how it was in my neighborhood and school. So its odd to see how Pokemon not only survived this whole time but actually seemingly got a boost in popularity after the third gen games. My speculation is that after the initial wave of fanboys many of us left and in its place new fans (children) came in with probably the 4th gen games onward. Maybe you guys can break it down more but just making my own observations here. From what I know of the sales my speculation seems like it could likely be true. The series was a massive success but it did decline a ton over the years.
>>712494851
>>712489227
Also going to have to agree with these two posters. Much of my enjoyment for gen 1 and 2 is thanks to Stadium. They added so much to the games besides the fact you can play on the big screen and not have to use those poorly lit Gameboys that needed those wormlights.

Long post but I don't post here much anymore and figure someone at least is interested enough on my insight.

>>712484304 (OP)
Dragon Quest III

Now we post remakes that had potential but didn’t quite live up to their originals or got horribly butchered

Apparently yesterday was the 24th Anniversary of the GBA, I post this because the GBA was a handheld of many remakes/ports from the SNES

Daily reminder

>>712493876
making some of the metroids run away was a poor decision, otherwise yeah

fuck the faggots who think the ridley fight is a bad inclusion

>>712497835
>my opinion is chad yours is onions xdd
>>>/r/eddit

>>712498912
>onions
newfag

>>712497835
There's nothing inherently wrong with remakes, but they're almost always worse than the original because the original had to be really good to deserve a remake in the first place.

>>712499352
does this apply to movies?

>>712485823
zero mission is better than the original because they made kraid big. this is important because kraid is big

>>712484304 (OP)
Remakes are ALWAYS shit no exceptions.

>>712499449
That's not a remake. It's just another adaptation of the same source material.

>>712500050
but Zero Mission is fantastic???

>>712500471
Calm down lad I never played a Metroid game. I was just posting something to see if I could grab the quints, lol.

>>712500770
good luck next time

>>712499449
It does, the thing is an exception just like REmake
>>712491814
very fair but given how small said map is I think it's fine
>>712499974
kraid is big

>>712484304 (OP)
remember emulating this when I was younger, still holds up

>>712484304 (OP)
Enormous is debatable.
>added weapon muzzleflashes
>enemies don't bodyblock you when they do their death animation
>remastered models no longer have vertex wobbles
>all internal logic runs at 40hz instead of 10hz
For a lot of people the inclusions/updates mentioned above turned this from a 0/10 to a 9/10 game.

>>712501192
>kraid is big

it made the game to be completely accessible and friendly. which i feel is kind of missing the point.

>>712501383
I was agreeing, Kraid is cute in the original!

>>712484304 (OP)
The quality really nosedives at the final stretch even before the ZSS area, very reminiscent of Fusion.

>>712484516
>>712485954
Biggest issue is the performance is unbearably bad.

>>712499043
I don't care about the filters nigger

>Want to 100% game
>Need to finish the ZSS section and then go back to the planet
>Same shit with Return of Samus, need to get the Metroid
I hated this shit.

>>712484304 (OP)
>pic unrelated

>>712484431
the entire game sucks ass, the gba games were the jumping off point for the series because it decided to jump the shark